00:00The European countries, what I heard from a guest, the European countries want to defeat Russia.
00:06This is the thing. They want to defeat Russia instead of discussing the future of Europe.
00:11We want to drive them out of Ukraine. We're not seeking to defeat Russia.
00:14We're seeking to drive, we're seeking to help Ukraine drive your people out of a country you do not own.
00:22That is what we are seeking to do.
00:23When you destroyed Yugoslavia, you didn't mind the Russian opinion.
00:28When you destroyed Yugoslavia, you didn't mind the Russian opinion.
00:32You destroyed a whole country, a big country.
00:36You crushed it in lots of countries.
00:39Let's stick to the present day. Let's stick to Ukraine.
00:42Aggression against Ukraine.
00:46So let's get back to Ukraine.
00:49Well, that's what I mean.
00:52The European countries talk about defeating Russia.
00:55It's not acceptable.
00:57They don't talk about defeating Russia.
00:58If they behave so...
00:59Sir Gerald says that they're not talking about defeating...
01:05They're not trying to defeat Russia.
01:07They're trying to help Ukraine to defend its sovereign borders.
01:10That's what Sir Gerald is saying, I think.
01:13What's the difference?
01:15What's the difference between the two issues?
01:17The difference is that we are not seeking to...
01:19Helping Ukraine means defeating Russia.
01:21We're not seeking to destroy Moscow.
01:25You are seeking to destroy Kiev.
01:27And we are trying to protect Kiev.
01:29That is the fundamental difference.
01:31And if you do not understand that, either you are not very intelligent, and I suspect you are quite intelligent,
01:37or else you are just a spokesman for a most corrupt regime operating in the Kremlin, which I think is behind you.
01:45Okay, let's let Andre respond to this.
01:47Well, I can assure you, if Russia really wanted to destroy Kiev, it would really did it.
01:55As the NATO forces destroyed lots of parts of Belgrade previously, in Yugoslavia.
02:01But we see that the center of Kiev is not destroyed.
02:07President Zelenskyy is there.
02:09Lots of leaders arrive to Kiev, arrive in Kiev, and they hold negotiations with the Ukrainian government.
02:17Russia does not want to destroy Kiev or any other...
02:21People aren't going to Kiev, thanks to the goodwill of the Russian people or the president of Russia.
02:31They're able to go to Kiev because, notwithstanding the astonishing bombardment that you are unleashing on the capital of Ukraine and upon their other cities,
02:42notwithstanding that, the Ukrainians have been able to shoot down so many of the drones that you are directing to them.
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