00:00And do you think President Zelensky has played his cards quite skillfully here?
00:04Because by agreeing to this deal, it means that Russia, not Ukraine, is going to be seen by Washington as being the next spoiler.
00:13That's assuming Russia doesn't agree to this deal.
00:16Yeah, I think I think all parties, quite frankly, are playing this a lot more seriously.
00:21And certainly Ukraine's attempts right now and also to visibly get on a plane and come to D.C. would underscore Russia as the outlier.
00:29Whether or not it's effective or has any impact on Moscow softening its position is to be seen.
00:35And I think until there's real pressure on the battlefield, as well as economic pressure on China and India, these are the two biggest sources of income coming into Moscow's war coffers.
00:48I think it's going to be an open question whether or not we're going to see any real give from Moscow's perspective.
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