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00:00I want to dig into all of that and the market reaction this week with Bloomberg's equities
00:03reporter Carmen Reinecke, who has been across this story day in, day out. Carmen,
00:09why are we seeing this ongoing pressure on some of the biggest winners?
00:14Yeah, it's really interesting and like what a week it's been, right? You know,
00:17we have NVIDIA with this blowout earnings report and then two down days immediately following it.
00:22Really what seems to be happening is there are so many macro pressures on the market right now
00:27that that's adding a lot of weight and dragging down the major indexes. But at the same time,
00:31we're seeing that NVIDIA's report, as good as it was, wasn't enough to quell some of these overall
00:37AI fears, right? And so we're seeing a sell-off. We're seeing a very risk-off, you know, mentality
00:43in the markets right now. And one thing that has been kind of interesting is looking at the stocks
00:47that are up today. We're actually seeing Apple outperform and it usually has lately sort of
00:52been opposite of these big AI names because it doesn't have a huge AI piece of the puzzle.
00:58And then we're also seeing Google up, which is still really big optimism after Gemini 3. So
01:03it's just interesting to see a little bit of the split that's happening there in the market.
01:06And much of this, of course, has been built into the worry about, yes, NVIDIA has the demand,
01:11people starting to dig into accounts receivable, into inventory, but that felt like a desire to try
01:17and in retrospect, understand why we were seeing a sell-off rather than seeing that and then seeing
01:23a stock sell-off. So can you talk to us about how things are happening in timing-wise?
01:27The timing has been so interesting. And I think you're totally right that we, you know, I speak
01:32to a lot of investors and people were sort of pulling on different things, but there was no
01:36real like smoking gun great answer as to why, you know, we were seeing this sell-off. But we have
01:42been seeing the market sort of react more to things around a Fed cut, if there's going
01:47to be a rate cut in December. So this morning, you know, it looked like things were kind of
01:51positive and then around the Williams comments, but then, you know, we get you Mish out. And
01:57so it just seems like there's a ton of macro and that is really what's moving the market.
02:04I think one discourse that has been throughout is debt. And debt, particularly among players
02:10like CoreWeave in the NeoClouds, but Oracle in particular, the CDS, the credit default
02:14swaps of Oracle have become almost like a way in which we show anxiety in the great debt
02:20pile-out of certain companies. Is it rational? No one thinks Oracle is suddenly going to default,
02:26but it is being used as some sort of hedge here.
02:28Yeah, totally. And I mean, the stock has just completely fallen off. You know, it had that
02:32huge jump and then we've erased all of that. And the debt question is a really big thing
02:37on investors' minds. And I think it really plays into the fears of the AI bubble or the
02:42debate around it being a bubble, because if these companies start loading up on debt,
02:47there's the potential that they could become over-levered. That could be a bigger issue down
02:51the line. And, you know, with everything as circular as it is, even though these companies
02:57keep addressing it, you know, Jensen spoke about it in NVIDIA's calls, investors are just
03:01not convinced yet. You know, they're just seeing the house of cards. They're worried about
03:06it.
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