Frank Walks Episode 77: Matt Leinart by BODYARMOR

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00:00All right, you know, college football, we've got a great season going on here.

00:08Playoff is about to begin, and you know, I'm going to talk to a rival.

00:13Yes, that's right, a rival in Matt Leinart.

00:15Heisman Trophy winner from USC, of course, being a big Irish fan.

00:19And, well, as always, our walks are hydrated by body armor.

00:23Choose better, choose body armor, and I'm actually looking forward to this.

00:26Because Matt Leinart's a great guy, a great host on Fox Noon Kickoff, so let's go for a walk.

00:37Frank walks, Frank walks, it's time for Frank walks.

00:43Frank talks while Frank walks, it's time for Frank walks.

00:51All right, thank you for joining us, Matt.

00:53Yeah, of course.

00:53Of course, 20 years ago, you won the Heisman Trophy.

00:5920 years ago, that's a long time.

01:00Hard to believe it's 20 years.

01:02I know, it's crazy.

01:02It's hard to believe it's 20 years.

01:05Time goes by so fast, it seems.

01:07I just turned 50 yesterday.

01:09Did you?

01:09Yeah.

01:10Shoot, you don't look a day over 41, man.

01:12Looking good.

01:13Thanks, thanks.

01:14I've lost over 200 pounds.

01:17I know.

01:18You look great.

01:19How are you feeling?

01:19I feel a lot better.

01:21Yeah?

01:21And you're walking, what kind of?

01:23I'm walking every day.

01:24I'm trying to get 20,000 steps a day.

01:28Of course, when you won the Heisman Trophy, you had one play that stands out.

01:34Which play is that?

01:36I got pushed?

01:37I got pushed?

01:38Yes.

01:39Yeah.

01:39And that wasn't exactly illegal back then.

01:41Well, that's what Brady Quinn likes to tell me, that it was an illegal play.

01:45And USC in the news a little bit this year for running another illegal play, I guess.

01:50But hey, listen.

01:50Oh yeah, the two guys with different numbers.

01:52Listen, we invented, you know, they have the Tush Push now.

01:56Yes, you did.

01:56Which is a terrible name for that play.

01:57We invented it.

01:58Yes, you did.

01:58We and Reggie invented the Bush Push, and then 20 years later, they're using our play in the NFL.

02:04I mean, you should have trademarked it.

02:06We should have.

02:07You should have trademarked it, so everyone will call it the Bush Push.

02:09Well, you know, we could have trademarked it.

02:11Maybe got some NIL, made some T-shirts back in the day.

02:14Didn't the Dallas Cowboys trademark the Hail Mary?

02:16I think so.

02:17Maybe, yeah.

02:18I mean, they're the ones who invented the Hail Mary.

02:20Where were you?

02:22Did you watch that game live?

02:23Yes, I did.

02:24I always get great stories when people say, oh, I was here when the Bush Push, or I was

02:30here versus the Texas, you know, the Rose Bowl game.

02:32Yep.

02:33Where were you?

02:34Were you in Jersey?

02:35Yeah, in Jersey watching the game at home.

02:38I mean, and now the play's legal, although who knows how long that's going to stay.

02:44I know there's always a movement to try to ban it.

02:45We need to get rid of the Tush Push.

02:47I think it's a terrible play.

02:49You like it?

02:49So, I think there should be maybe a way that...

02:53Well, they need to ref it better.

02:55Yes.

02:55Because the guards jump offside every single time.

02:59And again, it's just, I don't know.

03:01I just think it's a bad play.

03:02I think it's just unfair.

03:04It's an unfair play that I think that the quarterback should have to at least, like, make a move forward.

03:11Not have...

03:12Yeah.

03:12Not be sprung, pushed out.

03:14My guess is that play will be eliminated in the next year or two.

03:19It's coming close.

03:20Yeah, it's coming close.

03:21I think it felt like two votes short of fall about being eliminated this year in the NFL.

03:24Yeah.

03:25I mean, it's unfair.

03:28Now, we've got a great season going on this year.

03:32Yeah.

03:33Heisman Trophy.

03:34Yeah.

03:35It's crazy.

03:36It's a crazy, crazy...

03:38I think Jeremiah Love needs to be talked about more.

03:43I mean, you could make the case he's the best player in college football.

03:46The problem is, and we kind of know this, it is...

03:48Actually, I mean, Devontae Smith won it not too long ago, but it is kind of like a quarterback

03:52award, it just feels like, you know?

03:54It's pretty much...

03:55If you're the quarterback on the best team, you're going to win the Heisman Trophy for the

03:59most part if you play well.

04:01But this year is interesting because, obviously, you could make a case for Jeremiah Love 1,000%.

04:06But then, like, you have...

04:09I think it's going to be interesting because you have Mendoza and Sane on a collision course

04:13to the Big Ten Championship game.

04:15I think the winner of that game might win it.

04:17Then you have Ty Simpson and Marcel Reed, who I don't...

04:20I think...

04:20See, I think he's not getting talked about enough in the Heisman race.

04:23They're on a collision course to the SEC Championship game.

04:27And I don't know.

04:28It's probably going to come down to that Saturday.

04:30Like, whoever balls out, probably going to win the trophy.

04:32You know, we have the playoff now.

04:36Yeah.

04:38And you saw it happen last year.

04:40It's like, after the playoffs happened, it's like, why did it take so long to get a playoff?

04:44I know.

04:45I know.

04:45Well, they're going to keep expanding.

04:47I mean, how about this?

04:49We were a part of the old BCS.

04:51Remember the old BCS?

04:51We got screwed by...

04:53Who was it?

04:55Oklahoma.

04:56We should have played...

04:57Yeah.

04:57In 2004, we won it all.

04:59But in 2003, Oklahoma lost to Kansas State in the Big 12 Championship game and still got

05:07in ahead of us.

05:08And we ended up beating Michigan in the Rose Bowl and we shared the title with LSU.

05:11But BCS...

05:12The shared titles were so bad.

05:14I know, right?

05:15I'm so glad that's a thing of the past.

05:17Do you like the playoffs?

05:18I love it.

05:19It was a long time overdue.

05:21You know, you got the traditional bowls, which are good.

05:23The big name bowls.

05:24And maybe if there's a gimmicky bowl, like the Pop-Tart Bowl, has become fun.

05:32I mean, it's pretty like the teams that are like the middle level teams.

05:36I used to love...

05:37I mean, I used to...

05:38Like, we went...

05:39Gosh, we went to the Las Vegas Bowl, Pete Carroll's first year.

05:43We were very good that year.

05:44But, like, I used to love the bowl games, you know?

05:46Like, it's...

05:48Well, if you're a developing team, the bowls are fine.

05:50It's just hard.

05:51Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed the bowl games just because it was...

05:55You know, you got free stuff and you got a chance to, like...

05:58I don't know.

05:58It just was...

05:59It was cool, but...

06:00But...

06:01It feels kind of devalued a little bit now with the playoff.

06:02When there's, like, two bowl games in Miami and three bowl games in New Orleans.

06:09And we're playing games...

06:10I know.

06:10A bowl game in Birmingham.

06:12Not a thing against Birmingham, but...

06:14Yeah, I know.

06:16I mean, there's not much to do in Birmingham.

06:17Yeah.

06:18A bowl game at Yankee Stadium.

06:21We're playing bowl games at Baseball Stadium.

06:23Fenway Park.

06:23I mean, that's when it gets a little monotonous.

06:26Yeah.

06:26I mean, gosh, they have...

06:28Didn't they have the Bahamas Bowl?

06:29The Bahamas Bowl.

06:31I think Gronk...

06:32Gronk, our boy Gronk's got his own bowl game, too.

06:34He had a bowl game last year or something.

06:37I don't know.

06:38So, as we move forward into the playoff system, the playoffs this year,

06:43who are teams that could be a dark horse that could be, like, a surprise team?

06:47For this year?

06:48Yes.

06:50It's interesting because, you know, there's only 12 spots.

06:53You've got to think the SEC's going to get four or five.

06:56Big Ten's going to get a handful.

06:57There's a couple teams that keep an eye on.

06:59James Madison.

07:00So, the group of five, you know, the highest ranking is going to go in.

07:04Right now, it's USF.

07:05James Madison, where Cignetti was a couple years ago,

07:08they're flying under the radar.

07:10They could definitely sneak in.

07:11And Utah, I think Utah's in a little weird spot because they're kind of right there.

07:17They don't really play anyone the rest of the year.

07:18But if teams in the SEC lose a bunch of games and kind of beat each other up here the last month,

07:23you could see a Utah team get in.

07:26I think the ACC is wild.

07:28I think the ACC's only going to get one team in.

07:30It's going to be the conference champion.

07:31Whoever that is, I have no idea.

07:32It's all messed up.

07:34And by the way, the depth of the Pac-12.

07:38Sad.

07:39I mean, the Super Conferences, maybe they're okay for football.

07:44But last year, I went to a game at Rutgers.

07:47And I was watching USC play Rutgers.

07:50That's not fair for those on football.

07:54Yeah.

07:56They need to go cross-country flights.

07:57I think USC had to go.

07:59They played a away game this year.

08:02And then they had to play – they had to go to Nebraska.

08:06Like, they had two back-to-back road games.

08:08And then they had to play a short week against Northwestern last week.

08:10So, it does pile up, I think, especially this late in the year when you have to travel and all that.

08:17I don't personally think it's that big of a deal.

08:20For football, it's not a big deal.

08:21It's not that big.

08:21Yeah, for football, it's not.

08:22But basketball, some of these –

08:23Yeah, basketball, baseball.

08:24All the other sports where they're out there for multiple days.

08:26Yes.

08:27That part is hard.

08:28So, they've got to figure out the scheduling.

08:29I think that's something that they have to figure out.

08:32I mean, it's a little weird to me still that Stanford and California are in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

08:38Yeah.

08:39Can we bring back the Pac-12?

08:41Let's go.

08:42They're trying.

08:42I'm so old.

08:43I was a part of the Pac-10.

08:44They're trying.

08:45They're trying to bring back the Pac-12.

08:46Yeah, no, they're filling up with other teams.

08:48Basically, what's going to happen is they're going to cannibalize the Mountain West.

08:51Yeah.

08:52They're going to cannibalize the Mountain West.

08:54Yeah.

08:54And you're going to have a new Big 12.

08:55Hopefully, you get some of the old teams back.

08:58Yeah.

08:59Like, bring back Stanford, Cal.

09:01Bring those back to the Pac-12.

09:03Stanford and Cal.

09:05As you said, being in the ACC is the weirdest thing, right?

09:09It's Atlantic Coast Conference.

09:10Talk about travel.

09:11Talk about travel.

09:13Well, thank you for joining us.

09:14Oh, man.

09:15Frank, thanks for having me.

09:16It's a pleasure.

09:16You look good.

09:16I had to put my hate for USC aside for a second.

09:19Oh, I just realized you have a Notre Dame.

09:21I should have talked more shit to you then.

09:25Go Irish, man.

09:26Go Irish.

09:26Yeah.

09:27Pleasure.

09:27Alexa talked enough shit to you.

09:30She did.

09:30She did you dirty in front of your kids.

09:32Yeah, my kids set me up.

09:33I'm like, what are you guys doing?

09:35What are you guys doing, Alexa, man?

09:36I got a beef with Alexa.

09:38She changed her voice recently.

09:39You hear that?

09:40Did she?

09:40Yeah.

09:41To what?

09:41Yeah, they gave her like a younger voice on my Alexa, at least.

09:44Really?

09:45Yeah, if you upgrade Alexa, you get like a younger voice.

09:48Maybe that's what I need to do.

09:49I need to upgrade her so she stops talking smack.

09:53Awesome, man.

09:53Thanks for having me, dude.

09:54I appreciate it, man.

09:55Thanks again.

09:56Yeah.

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