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Ballet Philippines President Kathleen Nolasco Lior-Liechtenstein ushered a new era for the country’s premiere dance institution when she took ballet to the digital world. But why did she only accept the position of President nine years after the initial offer? Pia Arcangel finds out in this interview.
As an “untier of knots,” Ms. Liechtenstein opened an online theater for dancers to perform, and collaborated with the heavyweights of the international ballet scene for free (!) master classes.
In this episode of Power Talks, get to know about her immense love for ballet, which started with just a library book in her childhood years, that led her to successfully steer Ballet Philippines throughout a global pandemic, to bring art to different communities in the Philippines and abroad.
As an “untier of knots,” Ms. Liechtenstein opened an online theater for dancers to perform, and collaborated with the heavyweights of the international ballet scene for free (!) master classes.
In this episode of Power Talks, get to know about her immense love for ballet, which started with just a library book in her childhood years, that led her to successfully steer Ballet Philippines throughout a global pandemic, to bring art to different communities in the Philippines and abroad.
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00:00What for you is power? How would you describe power?
00:03In a very sublime state, I would say power is being able to have a true inner peace.
00:12But in a very worldly manner, be able to buy whatever your heart desires.
00:18That was the dark moment, no?
00:19We had a choice. Die? Just like that.
00:22How harsh.
00:23I said, you have to rally behind me.
00:25As your captain, I'll either sink us or look for a port for us to anchor safely.
00:32And they did. They rallied behind.
00:35There's this preconceived notion that ballet is very social.
00:38Our dancers, they're not from rich families.
00:41They are, but that doesn't stop you if you're poor to become one.
00:47And as I've said, the art is not a privilege.
00:50It's for everyone. And that's for ballet as well.
00:55Under her expert leadership, Ballet Philippines continues to be the country's foremost classical and contemporary dance institution.
01:06But her rise to the presidency didn't come without its challenges.
01:10Today, we get to know more about Ballet Philippines President Kathleen Nolasco-Lior Lichtenstein.
01:15Only here, on Season 2 of Power Talks.
01:20Today, we're sitting down with none other than the President of Ballet Philippines, Kathleen Nolasco-Lior Lichtenstein.
01:27I hope I said that right.
01:28Very well.
01:29I practiced.
01:31Well, first of all, thank you so much for joining us, Mai Mai.
01:35Is it okay to call you Mai Mai?
01:36Yes, yes.
01:37Thank you for joining us.
01:38And congratulations on the 56th season of Ballet Philippines.
01:42Thank you so much, Pia, for also for inviting us here.
01:46And it's so good to see you.
01:49Oh, it's great to meet you.
01:50I have a million questions because I've never really had the opportunity to speak with anybody from Ballet Philippines.
01:56So your first entry into Ballet Philippines was as?
01:59As a Board of Trustees and then Treasurer and the Vice President and the President.
02:11And now President.
02:12And how many years has it been since you assumed the presidency?
02:16Since 2019.
02:18Okay.
02:19Just when we turned 50 years old.
02:21Oh.
02:22So we're 56 now.
02:23We're so old.
02:24I read that you weren't initially keen on accepting the presidency of Ballet Philippines.
02:30Yes, it was offered to me actually nine years before that.
02:35But I was also with different boards.
02:37I was with 15 other boards at the time.
02:40And then I was thinking, I think, because I also had this habit really of, it's not being, I don't want to be flaunting, but it's my passion really.
02:53I would love to really look at ballets of the big companies in the world.
03:01International companies.
03:02Yes.
03:03I was really very blessed with hard work, from hard work that I had this chance to see those ballets.
03:16And you cannot do that if you're with Ballet Philippines because you have to be inside.
03:22Ah, you don't get to go out and explore, yeah.
03:25I know.
03:25So at one point, I have my subscriptions.
03:29I didn't cut any of my subscriptions because it's expensive.
03:34And I said, oh, I'll just go.
03:36So that's one thing that I really didn't want to happen.
03:40I knew if I sat as their head, I won't be able to just pack and watch this show.
03:48And sometimes those shows never will happen again.
03:53You know, these are dancers that you know you won't be able to see anymore.
03:58At one point, I was with one trustee who went to a theater, a very major theater in the world.
04:05And there was this ballerina that already retired.
04:13We were bawling.
04:14We were crying.
04:15It was me, Pia, when, you know, somehow in your life, you've come across when all the stars aligned.
04:24In ballet, when you're watching a show, it doesn't happen most of the time.
04:3098%.
04:30It doesn't happen.
04:32But there's a moment when it happens and you'll never forget that.
04:36What was that moment for you?
04:38It was a swan lake at La Scala when she's now retired.
04:45I didn't know if she was dancing.
04:47But I just needed to be there.
04:52And I thought, okay, I can die now.
04:58I've seen heaven on that stage.
05:02You know, the poetry of her dancing, of the music, of the costume,
05:09even the atmosphere of the theater.
05:12I think it inspired me after that to accept the presidency.
05:18Was anyone in the family surprised that, you know, you ended up becoming president of Ballet Philippines?
05:23I mean, I'm talking about your siblings, your parents or grandparents.
05:28Or they always knew that, from the very beginning, that you were really inclined towards the arts.
05:34I think it was just an organic thing.
05:38Except that at one point, we were sitting and I was watching the show.
05:44It was Margie, Margie Florendo, that was the president then that I got after her, the position.
05:53And I was watching and my husband says,
05:59So, my mind, remember, this will be what you're going to do.
06:05Are you ready for it?
06:07And then my friend was like, why?
06:08What's happening?
06:09And my daughter said, oh, my mom, she hasn't told you yet.
06:12But she accepted to be the president.
06:16And I said, oh, I think everybody was just like, oh, yeah.
06:21It wasn't a big surprise anymore.
06:23Yeah, which is funny.
06:25Parang, here am I turning over my, because you know, it really turns your world around.
06:33Everything, and then I stopped with my family business.
06:39I had to really just go through the Ballet Philippines, because it takes so much of your time.
06:45It takes so much of, not only the time, but the mindset of making sure that you produce and your lineup of shows are not only saleable,
07:03but it's something that will educate the audience.
07:06You know, when I came into Ballet Philippines as the president, I had a little bit of, of, uh, some people saying,
07:17oh, she's going to run Ballet Philippines as a business, which I did.
07:21I'm not gonna.
07:23Which is not necessarily bad.
07:24I'm not gonna deny that.
07:26I, when I came into Ballet Philippines, I studied it.
07:30I studied its book.
07:31I studied its financial, uh, financials, because I'm really into, I think, Pia, I love the buhol-buhol that they say.
07:41Ever since I was small, I love fixing buhol-buhol.
07:45You know, when there's a buhol-buhol.
07:46So you're the untire of knots.
07:47Yeah, I love that.
07:49Even in my mind, I do that.
07:51And, and so when there are problems, I love the problem solving.
07:54But, yes, I, I think my, my strength really was knowing that potentially, as a business,
08:06Ballet Philippines was meant to be run as a business corporation.
08:10Also to ensure survival, I guess.
08:13In order for it to sustain itself.
08:16Okay, to sustain itself.
08:17Yes.
08:18That means you were at the helm, uh, right?
08:20During pandemic, at the peak of pandemic.
08:22Yes, that was, I think, the pivotal times of not only Ballet Philippines, but a lot of our entertaining businesses,
08:34a lot of, even the artists, I suppose.
08:37That was the dark moment, no?
08:39At the same time, uh, it was the moment when we had to do our thing.
08:45I didn't know anything about the digital world, but I, I woke up one time and I said,
08:52we're going there.
08:54I don't know what is it all about, but we are going there.
08:58And I talked with my people over Zoom, and because that time, which is already after the, the whole Philippines was closed.
09:08And I said, guys, um, I don't know what I'm going to tell you.
09:13And I also don't know what I'm doing, but that we're going to live.
09:19We are going to live this, uh, darkness.
09:22And let us just think that we will make it through.
09:27And we did.
09:29We, we, I called our, uh, communication, communication director, Ping, Ping, uh, Valencia.
09:37And I told her, Ping, do you know anything about the website?
09:43No.
09:44Why?
09:44We're going there.
09:45I said, oh my God.
09:48Yes.
09:48We're going there from then on.
09:50We didn't, I think we would sleep only three hours, four hours, because you really didn't know what's happening.
09:56So we did this, what you call ballet.ph.
10:01Um, and, and our main objective then was to survive.
10:06Dance.
10:07Dance to Survive.
10:09And so we put up, um, a theater, a digital theater, while you're, while we closed, CCP closed down.
10:19And, uh, we didn't want our dancers to be, to be just there without nothing.
10:26Yeah, not doing anything.
10:26Yeah.
10:26So we, we put for them, um, it, it was a process that really was thinking about the dancers, the company,
10:36and the Filipino people.
10:37So what we did, you know, Pia, when they say, uh, there's always good and bad, there's always darkness and lightness.
10:45Uh, the good thing when that happened was we were able to make a master, masterclass with the superstars of the ballet world.
10:56Uh, in a normal time, uh, in a normal time, you won't be able even to say hi to these people or even watch them because they are just untouchable in terms of their, their position in the world.
11:13Which superstars are you talking about?
11:14Oh, I'm talking about the principal, uh, dancers of the Royal Ballet, of the, you know, they came, they, they, they, they zoom.
11:23Mm-hmm.
11:24So, with Bolshoi, the Marinsky, the Australian Ballet, everybody, we had them.
11:33And we have very good artistic director, Misha, then, the, the, Misha Martiniuk, then came, uh, came aboard.
11:43He is a Russian.
11:45Okay.
11:45Um, very, very well-respected and the principal dancer of the Moscow Ballet.
11:50So, he knew all of these guys, but even he, if it's just not COVID, he would not even be able to get in touch with it.
11:58So, he would call or I would write a letter and say, pro bono, gratis, could you please come and, and have, uh, a masterclass with our dancers?
12:11And it was not monetized at all.
12:13Oh.
12:14It was free for everyone.
12:15We would have-
12:16Even for the participants.
12:17If participants.
12:18Uh, it was open to the world.
12:21Mm-hmm.
12:21So, we would have students from all over the world.
12:24Mm-hmm.
12:25We even, uh, one, at one time, we even got the Batsheva Dance Company of Israel, a modern dance company.
12:33Mm-hmm.
12:33He would even be able to talk to them.
12:36Uh, they have a schedule of five years.
12:39Mm-hmm.
12:40For you to talk.
12:41We got them to teach us for a month.
12:44Oh, a month?
12:45A month.
12:45Yeah.
12:46Yeah.
12:46Okay.
12:46So, all of this, uh, I could name drop everybody and you were like, whoa.
12:50Uh, that's the good point there.
12:53And, and also, the best one was really that the dancers were able, they were able to continue dancing, to continue training.
13:04Mm-hmm.
13:05So, when, when the world reopened, we were ready.
13:08Mm-hmm.
13:09We were just so ready, technically speaking, and also, I think the confidence level was different because they knew.
13:18So, one time we were, I was talking with this principal dancer, she even has this, this show, um, she even has a movie.
13:27Mm-hmm.
13:28And she was coming in as a master and a master class.
13:31And, of course, before that happens, you say, hi, hello, thank you so much.
13:34I mean, why are you existing?
13:38Well, I'm in Boston now, and a lot of our dance companies that are very big are, are right now sleeping or dead.
13:47Ah, so even they were surprised.
13:49Yeah, we're surprised.
13:50And so, at, at, at the onset, it, it gives you fear of what you're getting into, but as you continue, you just get into the process, trust the process, and, and live with it.
14:07Mm-hmm.
14:07And enjoy the moment.
14:08So, my, my, I would always meet with the people, with my staff, and I would say to them, look, guys, let's just think, we are a Galleon.
14:16We're a Galleon, we don't know where we're heading, there's a hurricane around us, but we have to survive, or we capsize with the ship.
14:26I said, you have to rally behind me.
14:28Mm-hmm.
14:28As your captain, I'll either sink us, or look for a port for us to anchor safely.
14:35Mm-hmm.
14:35And they did, they rallied behind.
14:38And, uh, the good thing with Valley Philippines, and that's always what I'm saying, our, our secret weapon,
14:46I would say, is the board.
14:50Since its inception, uh, 56 years ago, I think it's the board, it's the trustees that carries the company.
14:59Mm-hmm.
14:59They are very, very supportive.
15:01They are hands-on in a way that they know exactly what you're doing.
15:06Mm-hmm.
15:06And, and because they are such pillars of the industries, you know, in Valley, that's one thing also that you have to really look into also as, uh, as, uh, the head of a company.
15:17The, the, the, but the dancers, are they well enough?
15:21Mm-hmm.
15:21Are they even prepared to be, to be, to, to transcend their ballerina days to, after that, it's a very short period of their lives.
15:34Like an athlete.
15:35Yes.
15:35Um, so, um, so, we, you need to look into that.
15:39Are they dancing properly for, and then thinking about how they're, they, they're going to move with their careers.
15:47Mm-hmm.
15:47And are they dancing the right roles?
15:50Mm-hmm.
15:51Are they given the right, uh, exposures?
15:54Mm-hmm.
15:54You know, all those things, uh, you have to, to talk it over with your artistic director.
16:00Although my artistic director is sublime.
16:03I think Valley Philippines, uh, was very, very blessed to have him.
16:11He had been giving them technicalities.
16:15Uh, when I, when I say that, it's the techniques of the ballet discipline, uh, which is based on the Russian Paganova style and the discipline.
16:27Not only that he gives them training, but he also looks into, even, sometimes he has, uh, drama classes.
16:37Mm-hmm.
16:38On how, how the pilit mata can work it.
16:42Wow.
16:42Uh, uh, work your pilit mata.
16:45Not even the eyes.
16:46Yeah.
16:46Yeah.
16:46Your eyelashes.
16:47Yeah.
16:48Or your eyebrow.
16:49Do something with it.
16:50And, and, and, like the partnering classes, endless of classes for that.
16:57It's just not really dancing.
16:58So, it's a different world.
17:00How do you prepare the ballerinas for retirement?
17:04Because like you said, they do have to retire earlier than most other people would from their jobs.
17:09So as much as possible, like one now is pregnant.
17:13So instead of telling her, stop, come back when you're ready.
17:19So we put her into our public relations.
17:24Ah, okay.
17:24Social media.
17:25So they get to do different.
17:26Yes, and if they love it and they become great working on that, that's another career path.
17:34Because Pia, if you don't like the dancers, they will have the talent exodus.
17:42They will join the talent exodus, which we're so famous of.
17:49And by exodus, you mean they go abroad?
17:51They go abroad because they dance better there, even if they just dance in the Disney World.
17:56But it's high payment.
17:58High payment.
17:59Yeah, compensation is different.
18:00Yeah.
18:01So it happened a lot of times to us.
18:05It's heartbreaking.
18:06Some of our principal dancers would come and I would really tell them,
18:10Look, look, you are in a ballet company that can give you the stage.
18:16Own it.
18:17Because if you're abroad, what do you have?
18:21Ah, okay.
18:21Mas matindi pa yung competition abroad.
18:24You can.
18:25You can better yourself.
18:26Because of course, it's a different world.
18:28But this is your country.
18:31This is your own.
18:34Own it.
18:36Make it as your heritage, your legacy to your children in the future.
18:42You know?
18:42Then they're listening.
18:44It's a good one.
18:45No, they're listening.
18:47Because these are very intuitively intelligent people.
18:51To be able to balance your whole body on stage on a tiptoe.
18:56Yeah.
18:56Oh.
18:57Mahirap yun.
18:58That means intelligence, you know?
19:00So, yeah, they're very intelligent people.
19:02And lovely.
19:03Really lovely.
19:04I do have a question.
19:05For those who are listening and those who are watching,
19:08and either they themselves aspire to become a member of Ballet Philippines,
19:14or maybe they have children who are interested and want to become a principal ballerina,
19:18or principal dancer at Ballet Philippines,
19:19what are the steps they have to take?
19:22First, is to call us.
19:26Simple.
19:28Simple.
19:28Yun lang pala yun.
19:29It's just one phone call.
19:30Yes.
19:31We're everywhere.
19:32You can see social media.
19:34We're there.
19:36Just call.
19:37Just get that number.
19:38Call us.
19:39And say, I'd love my child to start ballet.
19:43Because we really have classes for that.
19:47We really audition children.
19:50And if they become one, why not?
19:53We also have scholarships for really deserving children.
19:58In fact, we also have scholarships for that.
20:04And residences for that.
20:06So, and for instance, Pia, if you really want to watch ballet,
20:12but you do not have the means to do it, call us.
20:17Say for Alice in Wonderland, I really, I'm really, really, really want to watch,
20:22but I don't have even 100 pesos.
20:26What can we do?
20:26So, we have means to do that.
20:29We have the Share the Magic program, where a sponsor sponsors a child for a free ticket.
20:37A child or an adult or whatever.
20:40So, we have, like last, in August 1, 2, 3, our 56th opening,
20:47we have more than 1,000 seats for the outreach program.
20:53And ballet really is for everyone.
20:55Because there's this preconceived notion that if ballet is very social,
21:00or it's only for those who have a high appreciation for the arts, right?
21:04But you would, I'd probably say, you'd probably beg to differ.
21:08Or, you would, yes, because you would, if you're really Himaymai, our dancers,
21:15some are even stebedores that really started to, they really climbed their way
21:21to make their ambition and dreams come true.
21:26There are, they're not from rich families.
21:32There are, but that doesn't stop you if you're poor to become one.
21:38And, as I've said, the art is not a privilege.
21:42It's for everyone.
21:44And that's for ballet as well.
21:47Elites lang talang tawang, because to train,
21:50I mean, the toshu is like 5,000, 8,000 pesos.
21:54That's just a toshu.
21:56And we have, actually, also the ballet brigade,
21:59which is really the heart of ballet Philippines.
22:02Ballet Philippines may look very, very ethereal and magical,
22:07but at the heart of it is really their outreach programs.
22:13And that is teaching the community about ballet, dancing about, and dancing.
22:19And right last year, we decided we will not anymore exclude the IT children,
22:27the indigenous children.
22:28Children, children, not the adults, children.
22:32Because at this point, really, who hasn't been touched with social media?
22:37So the world is not anymore an eggshell.
22:40It's already open.
22:41And they only get to see, because of what they're looking into,
22:48the same old thing.
22:51So we thought, why don't you bring ballet Philippines and teach them ballet,
22:56not because you want to deconstruct their culture,
23:01but in order for them to be inspired.
23:05So to expose them for a bigger world,
23:08that they can make their own cultural dance better,
23:14and also for them to be inspired.
23:16Because in 10 years' time, if one of them becomes something else,
23:20rather than what they were thinking they can only do,
23:23that's an achievement for ballet Philippines.
23:25So you have loved ballet and theater ever since you were a young girl,
23:30but you yourself, you're not a dancer, you're not a ballerina.
23:33When I was like five, maybe, or five, around that time,
23:38I got this book from the library.
23:42And I can still remember the time when I opened it.
23:46It was a little bit stormy, and it says,
23:49Anna Pablova, the dying swan.
23:51That changed my life, because after that,
23:56I didn't want to know anything anymore about any dance,
24:00except ballet.
24:02And it's, I think, set my inclination towards the arts,
24:07as well as, you know, the operas.
24:12And my family, and my children,
24:16I tried to bring them up knowing what I like,
24:20because I think it was not bad for them.
24:23Because that's one thing.
24:24So you said you were in the library,
24:25you opened the book about Anna Pablova.
24:27This was during your elementary school days?
24:30Yes.
24:31When there's still a library.
24:32Did you can borrow books?
24:33Do you remember that?
24:34You go there, and then you...
24:35There's a card catalog.
24:36Well, then very, very quietly,
24:39you get and all that.
24:40So I brought it home, actually.
24:42Okay.
24:42And I've been actually looking for it,
24:46but I haven't...
24:49Found another copy.
24:50Yeah.
24:51Yeah, that transcended everything.
24:54As a young girl,
24:56did you read the book about Anna Pavlova?
24:57Did you want to try ballet?
24:59Oh, yeah.
25:00I was...
25:00So you tried?
25:01Actually, I was into ballet.
25:04Ballet didn't like me.
25:06Let's just say that.
25:07I feel like all of the young girls,
25:09at one point, they will try ballet.
25:10And then it's just a matter of
25:12whether or not ballet chooses you.
25:14I knew there and then,
25:15because I had this standard
25:17of what a ballerina should be.
25:19I knew then.
25:20I was not taught to be a ballerina.
25:22I tried with my daughter,
25:24but she decided to go horseback riding instead.
25:29But I'm sure the posture is still very good.
25:31So, I'm still not.
25:32But you know,
25:33as I've said,
25:34you can always be a ballerina.
25:36Not the principal dancer or a soloist,
25:38but you can always be a ballerina.
25:40At any age?
25:41If I have just the time,
25:43I'd go in the studio every day.
25:44But those are unrealistic.
25:49Okay.
25:50And it has to be,
25:51there has to be also a certain amount
25:52of dedication, I suppose, as well.
25:54Yeah.
25:55A dedication and a passion
25:57and the no shame,
26:00but no body shaming.
26:03So, before you joined Ballet Philippines,
26:05you said you worked at an ad agency
26:07and then you also managed your own business.
26:09Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
26:11I was for 30 years,
26:13almost 30 years,
26:15an exclusive agent for Charbo.
26:18It's one of the five,
26:20yeah,
26:21one of the five remaining
26:22ancient perfumery in the world.
26:25It's based in grass.
26:27So, you can imagine.
26:28No, I was in advertising
26:29and my husband says,
26:30I don't see you anymore.
26:32Oh, he was complaining.
26:33Yeah, I said,
26:34let's have lunch.
26:35Let's have dinner.
26:36No, I just was there
26:37with my client.
26:39So, I said,
26:39okay, I'll just give you a,
26:40I'll just give you a business.
26:44Wow.
26:45I'll give you a business.
26:46So, he put us together
26:48with his family friend of theirs
26:51and that was,
26:52I didn't know anything about perfumery
26:54except to buy over the counter.
26:55So, I had to go train in grass
26:58and then retrain and retrain every year.
27:02And, yeah,
27:03that was the turning point
27:04also of my life.
27:07And,
27:07I'm retired now
27:10and doing that
27:11and then I was also with Peacop.
27:13I was their PR head.
27:16That was my starting up.
27:19I remember I told you,
27:20all I wanted to be was a CEO
27:23of a top company in the Philippines.
27:26Sobra, no?
27:27Sobra, no?
27:27Sobra, no?
27:28No, sobra, sobra pa yung na-achieve.
27:32No, at least it's my passion.
27:34It's my passion.
27:43We do have a series of
27:44what we call quickfire questions.
27:47So, I don't know if you were given a chance
27:49to go through these questions.
27:51It's better to be spontaneous.
27:53So, we'll just go through the questions
27:54very quickly
27:55and we anticipate
27:57the most impromptu answers for you.
27:59Okay.
28:00Okay.
28:00It's very, very quick.
28:01Quick questions, quick answers.
28:03So, first question,
28:04who do you like to call on for advice?
28:06My husband.
28:07Good answer.
28:09Best leadership
28:09and or personal advice
28:11you've ever received,
28:11whether from your husband
28:12or somebody else?
28:13Just continue
28:15and do what needs to be done.
28:17Simple.
28:18Power on.
28:18Yeah, power through.
28:20Power through.
28:21Is there a difference
28:21between how a woman leads
28:22and a man leads?
28:24Yes.
28:25We lead with charm.
28:27Grace and poise.
28:29Yes.
28:30We do have that.
28:30That makes a difference.
28:33What skills or competencies
28:34do you consider important
28:35for a president
28:36to perform her role effectively?
28:39To be able to read
28:39the financial report.
28:42It's an acquired skill.
28:43How do you celebrate
28:44small wins with your team?
28:46Oh, eating.
28:48Ah, nice.
28:48Food is my love.
28:51What do you call it?
28:51Language of love.
28:52The language of love.
28:53Is it usually a cake
28:55or pansit?
28:57Are you kidding, Pia?
28:57The whole thing.
28:59Ah, buffet.
28:59The whole table
29:01is laden with food.
29:03How do you balance
29:03being an approachable leader
29:06with being someone
29:07with authority?
29:09I just say hello.
29:13Hello.
29:14That makes a difference,
29:15no?
29:15Saying hi to everybody.
29:16Like, dance.
29:17Just hello.
29:19What is the one thing
29:20that you think
29:20shaped your leadership style?
29:23Empathy.
29:24And what is your
29:25guilty pleasure?
29:27Eating.
29:28What is your go-to
29:29comfort food?
29:31My go-to is
29:33sardines.
29:36I would not have
29:37expected that answer.
29:38What is one piece
29:40of accessory or outfit
29:41that you cannot live without?
29:44I think a diamond.
29:47But I didn't wear it now
29:49because I didn't want
29:50to be.
29:51You have in the ears.
29:53A diamond.
29:53If a musical
29:55were to be created
29:55about your life,
29:56what would the title be?
29:58She Did It.
29:59Ah, nice.
30:01If you would spend
30:03one day or one week
30:04with zero responsibilities,
30:06what would you do
30:07and where would you go?
30:09In any aman.
30:11Okay, because you just
30:12want to lie down,
30:13relax,
30:14enjoy the view,
30:14the breeze.
30:15And not think about
30:17the bill.
30:18They don't give you
30:19the bill.
30:20I thought Mr. Lichtenstein
30:22was the only
30:22they give you the bill
30:23only when you leave.
30:26Okay, so when you
30:27check out,
30:27you're not with
30:28the company.
30:30Okay, and our last
30:31question is,
30:32we've seen how
30:33you are a woman
30:34of power.
30:35I mean, the show is,
30:35of course,
30:36after all power talks.
30:37What for you
30:38is power?
30:39How would you
30:40describe power?
30:41Okay, in a very
30:42sublime state,
30:45I would say
30:46power is being
30:47able to have
30:49a true inner
30:50inner
30:51peace.
30:54But in a
30:55very worldly
30:56manner,
30:57be able to
30:58buy whatever
30:59your heart desires.
31:00Thank you so much.
31:02Thank you so much,
31:02May-May,
31:03for sharing all
31:04your answers with us,
31:04for being very
31:05candid with us.
31:06And congratulations
31:07again on the
31:0856th season
31:09of Bali Philippines.
31:10So before we
31:11wrap things up,
31:12maybe just as
31:13an invitation
31:14to everyone,
31:15can you tell us
31:16what to look out
31:17for in Bali Philippines?
31:19Watch us
31:20this December,
31:21Alice in Wonderland
31:23bring your
31:23all,
31:24the entire family.
31:25You'll love it.
31:26Don't go to
31:27anywhere else,
31:28just go to
31:29Solaire,
31:30Alice in Wonderland.
31:31And this is
31:31for the whole family.
31:32All family.
31:34Everybody,
31:35your dogs,
31:36included.
31:39Thanks for
31:39watching.
31:40Don't forget to
31:40like,
31:41subscribe,
31:41and download
31:42PowerTalks with
31:43P.R. Canghel
31:43on Spotify,
31:45Apple Podcasts,
31:46or GMA Integrated News
31:47streaming platforms.
31:49Till the next episode!
32:09as well.
32:16We'll be right back here,
32:17and we'll see you next fall.
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