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00:00We want to take a look at the big picture now when it comes to policy out of Washington and
00:04bring in Josh Wingrove. He is our senior White House correspondent and he joins us now from
00:09the White House. And Josh, there's any number of directions we can go in here, particularly when
00:13it comes to the latest on the Jeffrey Epstein drama and the story there. But I want to start
00:18on tariffs and specifically how the U.S. government is now carving out some tariff exclusions
00:24because they need to address this affordability crisis that became very acute after the election
00:29results came out. Josh, what are you seeing? Yeah, we're told the president will sign an order
00:35today eliminating tariffs or reducing them at least. It's a little unclear on food products
00:40in particular that the U.S. either does not make at all or doesn't make enough of. Beef, coffee,
00:45bananas, tomatoes are among that list, we're told. My colleague Adriana and I just have a story on the
00:51terminal shortly about this. Speaking of all the things we could talk about today, forgive me if
00:55you hear a lot of sound behind me. The president is currently blaring a playlist on the Rose Garden
00:59and you could hear it all through the compound. What's the song that's playing right now?
01:03That's a good question, but we just got off Phantom before this. So, you know, he's, he's, he's,
01:07he's, he's, you know, he's signed up. I know he takes a lot of pride in that playlist.
01:11Yes, exactly. So this is obviously, look, the president, the administration is going to say
01:16that this is always part of the plan. There have always been exclusions. Jameson Greer,
01:19the U.S. trade representative, told us that earlier today here at the White House. It is also,
01:23of course, an acknowledgement that tariffs have an impact on the price of things,
01:27which Trump has downplayed throughout his tariff campaign. And so it is in some ways,
01:31at least a tacit sort of retreat or withdrawal. What is, I think, important and clear, or will
01:36become clear, and we just don't know right now, is how many of these exclusions apply to countries
01:40that have deals and how many are just to countries that don't. And if it don't, then that, I think,
01:46is more of a step back on the part of the administration. Whereas if they're just confining it
01:51to countries that have reached agreements, for instance, they announced four just last night,
01:56then that, you know, is maybe a bit more of a narrow action. So we just don't know the scope.
01:59We don't know what number of foods. We don't know whether the tariffs are simply being eliminated
02:03on them. You know, we just don't know what countries. A lot up in the air, but we're told
02:08as the president is signing it today, so we expect some details here pretty shortly.
02:12Josh, keeping with this tariff theme, of course, we do know news came out that the U.S. and Switzerland
02:16did reach a preliminary trade agreement to lower tariffs on many Swiss goods, including watches,
02:22from 39% to 15%. That sounds like a big drop to me here. Talk to us about the developments here
02:29between the U.S. and Switzerland. Yeah, and Liechtenstein, let's not leave them out of the
02:33party. Big deal with both of them. This has been in the works for quite some time. The Swiss were hit
02:38with a pretty high rate and argued that that was because of some weird distortions in the data and
02:43how trade is recorded, including flow of gold. And so they've been sort of clamoring to be treated the
02:48same as the EU. That's what this deal essentially, give or take, does. Treat them the same as the EU
02:54with a 15% rate. The flip side is the Swiss are agreeing to a $200 billion investment pledge over
03:01five years, $67 billion of it or one third in the next year here in the U.S. That follows models similar
03:07to what we saw, for instance, with the Japanese and Koreans. So they get a deal that they've been
03:11waiting for for a long time. Trump gets to, you know, boast about these pledged increased Swiss
03:17investments. But that really, that was sort of one of the sore thumb trade deals that came out with
03:21with the early math on how Trump calculated his tariffs. And I think is a signal on how
03:25a lot of this is really sort of still evolving, really. But between that and the deals announced
03:30last night, including with Argentina, but also some other Central American and South American
03:34countries, they're sort of starting to check off a lot of the list. And it will raise, you know,
03:40attention on the other countries, which is starting to be kind of a dwindling number for which Trump
03:44has not made a deal. India, for sure, is one of them. Canada and Mexico are sort of in a different
03:49bucket, but we're watching those as well. So he's trying to sort of, you know, knock these off. But
03:53the Swiss one is a big one. Yeah, I'm so glad you mentioned the countries that we don't have deals
03:57with, because I think about Canada and Mexico, they're our biggest trading partners, and we still
04:01haven't hammered out final details with them. Are there talks scheduled? My Canadian family do not
04:07let me forget it. Yeah, I'm sure. Every weekend. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot right now for Canada.
04:13Yeah, I think with Canada and Mexico, they're in a different bucket because they have that USMCA
04:16carve out. Trump doesn't like the word exclusion, but that's what it is. And so I think there's
04:21genuine conversation going on in both countries about how loud to complain, you know, because
04:25they have one of the lowest total average effective tariff rates in the world by merit of the fact that
04:30so much of the trade is simply not paying a tariff at all. So those two are in their own bucket.
04:34And we'll see where they go. Right now, there's really not a lot of momentum at all in either
04:38country for negotiations. This might just get rolled up in the USMCA conversation in the months
04:44and years to come. On the other countries, India, that has been a tough one to track. It was the
04:48first country that they announced trade progress with, and they just simply haven't gotten there.
04:52So I think it's anyone's guess where it'll go. The Swiss thing, I should give a shout out to our
04:56colleagues at Bloomberg in Switzerland. We scooped this story a few days ago that they were nearing the
05:00deal. We asked the president about it, and he dunked on me for asking all kinds of Swiss
05:04questions. But there was a reason, Mr. President. That's why we're here on the cusp of a deal
05:09for it. He asked whether I was buying Rolexes, and I cannot afford a Rolex. I don't know about
05:14everyone else, but I wish you well.
05:15You're right.
05:20So
05:22that's why I do.
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