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00:00105 with the Bounce Detroit still back for Poppin' R&B.
00:03It's your boy Showtime, the czar.
00:04Special guest in studio with me today.
00:07Inkster is in the building.
00:08T. Dot Pringle, what up, though?
00:10What's going on with y'all boys?
00:11Welcome to the show, man.
00:13What's up?
00:13First of all, how you doing?
00:15Everything good, man. I'm blessed.
00:17You know what I'm saying?
00:17That's what's up, man.
00:18You just came from Atlanta, so obviously you out here doing your grind.
00:21You hustling, man, which is always good.
00:24People who don't know your story, I want to start from the beginning real quick, man.
00:28Talk to me about how you got into rap and what made you want to start rapping,
00:32all that good stuff, man, and let people know the T. Dot Pringle story.
00:37Yeah, well, you know, I'm from Inkster, you feel me?
00:39So it's a lot of cats that's from my hood that everybody might not know about,
00:44but they like significant people, you know what I'm saying?
00:46One of them was C. Dot Flame.
00:48When I was little, it used to be a studio on Plum, you know what I mean?
00:52Where a lot of people from the hood used to record it.
00:54And I used to live in Compton back when I was in my younger days,
00:58you know what I'm saying?
00:59At this time, I was probably like 11 to 12 years old,
01:03and C. Flame had took me to the studio to record, you know what I'm saying?
01:07And so after that, it really was just up.
01:10I kept, you know what I'm saying?
01:11I had the interest in it, you know what I mean?
01:16But I was always in trouble, though, you feel me?
01:18So the shit I was doing that kept me in trouble
01:22overweighed the music shit all the way up until my adulthood,
01:25you know what I'm saying?
01:26I'd have been in and out of probably 11 years in prison.
01:28I'd been locked up two different states.
01:30Every time I had some motion with the rap,
01:32it just got shut down instantly
01:33because of some type of criminal cases going on or whatever.
01:38But yeah, my journey, I had met a lot of people,
01:42significant people from Helliva to, you know what I'm saying,
01:45hands up, said, you know, a lot of local rappers
01:48who I knew just from being in the mix in the streets,
01:50not even the music, you know what I'm saying?
01:52So I always had like an avenue to do it.
01:55I just couldn't stay out of trouble, you know what I'm saying?
01:58But now that I'm home, I'm out of trouble, I'm off parole,
02:02I'm taking rap serious, and you can tell, though,
02:04you know what I'm saying?
02:05I ain't really never had this much motion,
02:07especially in other states too, you know what I'm saying?
02:10So, you know, I guess now that I done got that
02:13out of my system, you feel me?
02:15Right.
02:16It's all music, no.
02:17What was the turning point for you, bro?
02:18Because you said you had been locked up a couple times
02:20and you was locked up for 11 years.
02:22What did that do for you mentally, man?
02:24Was you like, all right, this the last time.
02:26I got to do right.
02:27Really, you know, I just had to start making better decisions,
02:29you know what I'm saying?
02:30Ain't nobody perfect, you know what I'm saying?
02:32Everybody gonna do what they feel they need to do
02:34to feed themselves and feed the people that's dependent on them,
02:37you know what I'm saying?
02:38Right.
02:38But I just had to make smarter decisions.
02:41I just had to think more before I acted and moved,
02:44you know what I'm saying?
02:45I ain't no saint, you feel me?
02:47Mm-hmm.
02:47And I ain't about to act like jail
02:48scaring me from getting some money.
02:50You know what I'm saying?
02:51Yeah, exactly.
02:51But I'm definitely not as impulsive as I used to be,
02:54you know what I'm saying?
02:55Especially with my kids being involved, you know what I mean?
02:57Mm-hmm.
02:57I just made better decisions.
02:58And if it don't, if I don't feel like my reward outweigh my risk,
03:03then I'm not even about to do it, you know what I mean?
03:05Because I'm the type of person, no matter what happens,
03:07I'm going to take my consequences on the chin, you know what I mean?
03:11So I just think before I act, you know what I'm saying?
03:14Is it worth it?
03:15Is it not worth it?
03:16You know what I'm saying?
03:17Ain't nothing more important than me being there for my kids,
03:19you know what I mean?
03:20That's why I'm taking this music.
03:24It's more serious now.
03:25It's not just a hobby no more, you know what I'm saying?
03:26As long as I can feed the people depending on me with this music,
03:30I'm going to be doing music.
03:31And that's what it's looking like right now, you know what I'm saying?
03:34Music opens a couple doors, you feel me?
03:36That ain't used to open before.
03:37What was the first time that you was like, okay, this is really,
03:40I need to actually start taking this?
03:42Because you said the music opening doors.
03:44So what was the first door that opened?
03:45You was like, all right, man, no more foolishness, man.
03:47I got to stay with this, man.
03:48Uh, I think when I, uh, somebody paid me $2,500 for a feature in a video.
03:56What?
03:56You know what I'm saying?
03:57Yeah.
03:58So that's when I was like, okay, damn.
04:01I wasn't even looking at myself the way other people was looking at me.
04:04You know what I mean?
04:05Me, I'm a street cat from the hood.
04:07Right.
04:07You know what I mean?
04:08That just happened to, you know, rap.
04:10You feel me?
04:11But when I started to realize how much influence I had.
04:15That was your first feature?
04:16They paid you $2,500?
04:17No, that was my first feature.
04:17Oh, okay.
04:18I was about to say, yo, first one.
04:19When I got that much for a feature, that's when I was like, I had to sit back in it.
04:25You feel me?
04:26I had to sit back and evaluate some things like, damn, if I can do this, whatever I did
04:32to make him feel like he wanted to give me $2,500 to, you know what I'm saying, for
04:36me to be on a song and a video of him that he felt like it was going to do something
04:39for him.
04:40You know what I mean?
04:41I'm like, okay, I got to stay tapped into that market.
04:43I got to make sure, you know what I'm saying?
04:45I got to make sure that this is something that's prevalent, that not just happening there.
04:50You know what I mean, but happening all the time because that's how a lot of people are
04:53eating or stuff like that.
04:54You feel me?
04:54When I think I could, that's when I was like, okay, I got to take this most serious.
04:58You know what I'm saying?
04:59Got you.
05:00You performed at the Inkster Fest a couple of years ago, man.
05:03Talk about that experience, performing in front of family, friends, peers, people that
05:07watched you on your grind to see you perform on that stage, man.
05:10Did that, how did that feel?
05:12Yeah, you know, that was one of the best feelers in the world, you know what I'm saying?
05:15Because they say you get the most hate in your hometown, you know what I'm saying?
05:19Yeah, I've heard that.
05:19A lot of people say the philosophy is that you got to go outside your hometown.
05:24And then come back.
05:25Yeah, I've heard that before.
05:27They used to seeing you and growing up with you, and a lot of people that grew up with
05:32you, if they start to see people putting you on a different pedestal or looking at you
05:36in a different light, and they feel like they the same people that didn't play curveball
05:40with you, street fart with you, they sold dope with you, and now they say we was right
05:46here, but now people putting you up here, it kind of make them feel like to acknowledge
05:51what you up there is to lower their own value or image, you know what I'm saying?
05:56So a lot of people don't like to do that because they feel like y'all the same people, so they
06:00don't like to give you your props when you earning them, you know what I'm saying?
06:03So, but when I did the Inksterfest and when I seen the response from the crowd, you know
06:10what I'm saying, that was, it made me feel like, you know what I mean, okay, I might be
06:15a little different than the average person because, you know what I mean, I don't really
06:19get that type of hate from my hood.
06:20Right.
06:21I mean, not the majority, you know what I'm saying, like Inkster small, you know, things
06:25happen, it's going to be, you know what I'm saying, heads bumping or whatever the case
06:28may be, but for the most part, my hood behind me for sure.
06:32That's for sure, man.
06:33I'm glad to hear it.
06:34And they definitely are, man.
06:35I see a lot of support coming from you.
06:36A lot of people, you know, reaching out to you all the time and they just saying like,
06:40yo, this guy's it.
06:41You know what I'm saying?
06:42So, talk about your relationship with Helliva and Ant Beats, man.
06:47How did that come about, man?
06:48I see how they helping you with the showcase that you got coming up, right?
06:54Yeah, hell yeah.
06:55So, and Helliva did, well, they both produced for you a lot, man.
07:00Ant Beats did your most recent project, Surgical.
07:03You helped with that, correct?
07:04So, talk about how that relationship, man.
07:06How did both of those, what was it like linking up with both of them?
07:09Nah, I believe the first time I met Helliva, you know Face from Inkster, from the hood?
07:16Okay, yeah.
07:17Face had took me to Helliva because he wanted me to get a beat from Helliva.
07:20You know what I'm saying?
07:21And when I went to Helliva Studio, when he had it downtown, this one, he was still downtown.
07:27When I ended up meeting him and kicking it with him, it was like Helliva had seen something in me.
07:33You feel me?
07:34That made him lock in with me to this day.
07:36This was in 2000 and I believe 17 or 15.
07:40Right.
07:41This was, might have been 13.
07:44I don't know, you know, with the time, I kind of lost because of all the, you know, in and out of jail I did.
07:52But it was like either 2000 and, I want to say, it might have been 2015.
07:59Ever since then, we've been like then since when I first met him because, you know what I mean?
08:03I get, you know, people recognize, you know what I mean, real, especially a cat like Helliva because he genuine.
08:08He can see the fakeness or the genuineness in you.
08:11You know what I'm saying?
08:12So Face ended up introducing me to Helliva, I believe.
08:15I don't think I met him before then.
08:16So I think that's when I met Helliva and we just liked him since then.
08:20You know what I mean?
08:21He one of the ones that was just like, man, you got to stay out of trouble.
08:23You know what I mean?
08:24Yeah.
08:25Like our first song was hard to respect the shooter.
08:26You know what I'm saying?
08:27But I ended up getting locked up.
08:29You know what I'm saying?
08:30I came back out.
08:31We got back at it.
08:32I got locked up again.
08:33You know what I'm saying?
08:34We go, this the, shit.
08:36I've been home I think five years now.
08:40I got off for all and everything.
08:42So we just been rocking.
08:43You know what I'm saying?
08:44He happy, he proud.
08:45Shit, I'm happy.
08:46And Aunt Beast just came through the mix just from me being around people like Helliva.
08:50You know what I'm saying?
08:51And one of my mans was recording with Aunt Beast.
08:54And I was up there at the studio with my mans.
08:56And he already knew who I was and shit and stuff.
08:59And he like, let's do something.
09:02I'm ready if you ready.
09:03You know what I mean?
09:04Right.
09:05And we came with that surgical.
09:07Why the title surgical, man?
09:08Where'd that come from?
09:10You know, on train today when Denzel had got it to the shootout at the end with Jake.
09:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:17He was coming from the back.
09:18He was like, I'm surgical with this, Jake.
09:19You know what I'm saying?
09:20Yeah.
09:21That's where it came from.
09:22You know what I mean?
09:23Okay.
09:24Nice.
09:25I want to ask you because you had mentioned, you know, you being a street rapper.
09:29Rules of the rap game change a little bit now, man.
09:32People, I guess snitching is acceptable now.
09:37Does that make you move different as a guy who, you know, when you started rapping and how you moved in the streets is different now.
09:44Does that make you go, okay, you know what?
09:45What I was doing, what I was saying, I can't because of how it is now.
09:49Yeah, see the rap game only changed because the streets changed.
09:52You know what I'm saying?
09:53Like it was one point in time where you had to be like, to be talking, the way you talking, you had to be like a certain type of individual or it wasn't going to be respected.
10:01You know what I'm saying?
10:02And then it was just, it was like a different time, a different era, a different standard at one point in time.
10:07And now it's different and they're reflecting in the rap music.
10:10You know what I'm saying?
10:11Like you couldn't really, you couldn't do no bold stuff like tell on a guy, testify on a guy, write statements on a guy, send a guy to prison and then come back around the neighborhood like nothing happened.
10:22You know what I'm saying?
10:23I come from a time where even as a kid, you know, I was born in a project.
10:27I was born in the gardens.
10:28You know what I'm saying?
10:29I moved across the Ave when I got older after I had stayed in Compton for a couple of years.
10:33You know what I'm saying?
10:34I moved across the Ave when I was 13.
10:35So I jumped off the porch across the Ave technically, but I'd have stayed all over Inkster.
10:40You know what I mean?
10:41And I'd have been around a little bit of everybody.
10:43Notorious cats from the hood.
10:44You know what I'm saying?
10:45Right, right.
10:46It was one point in time where mamas, baby mamas, cousins, sisters, brothers was in jeopardy for you.
10:53You know what I'm saying?
10:54Telling on somebody.
10:55You know what I mean?
10:56I know a cat who got locked up for a murder and somebody was testifying on him and his brother allegedly went and killed him and then got locked up and they both doing life.
11:08You know what I'm saying?
11:09Wow.
11:10That's like where I come from.
11:11You know what I'm saying?
11:13So you know what I mean?
11:14But now it's like you can get away with stuff like that.
11:17So like the rap game is kind of watered down because like words used to mean something if you was a street cat rapping.
11:25Like your words used to mean something.
11:26You know what I'm saying?
11:27Now you can make stuff up and still, you know what I mean, have a run.
11:31Because the weight of the words don't mean as much no more.
11:34You know what I'm saying?
11:35So me, I just stay in my lane.
11:37I ain't gonna let that change what I got going on.
11:40You know what I mean?
11:41My words mean something to everybody that know me.
11:43You feel me?
11:44So that's how I'm rocking.
11:45I ain't about to let nothing or nobody water that down.
11:48You know what I'm saying?
11:49My man, Lonely and my guy, I know Lopez, but he got a line where he say,
11:53a rap with all the money in the world couldn't get a verse from me.
11:56You know what I mean?
11:57That's just what it's gonna have to be, man.
11:59You know, that's where my value as an artist and a person come from.
12:03So I just got to stick with that.
12:05Fact.
12:06So before we get into the showcase, I just want to ask you one more thing about that.
12:10Who was some of your musical influences, bro, growing up?
12:12Because you talked about See That Flame.
12:14Yeah.
12:15Was there anybody else that you was like, this is, I can do this because I saw him do it?
12:20The first person who ever I ever got influenced by as a rapper was DMX.
12:27Ah, DMX was a dog.
12:28That was my very first, you know what I mean?
12:30In the era where Biggie, Pot, Jay-Z, I was a DMX fan.
12:34You know what I'm saying?
12:35Yeah, me too.
12:36I was like 10 years old and I knew the whole, every album front to back.
12:39You know what I'm saying?
12:40Like I could relate to DMX.
12:41You feel me?
12:42Like it was something about him that I could relate to.
12:44Which album?
12:45Was it Blood In My Blown or was it Darker Tell Us Hot?
12:48Which one?
12:49All of them.
12:50All of them?
12:51Yeah.
12:52It was all of them.
12:53You feel me?
12:54You been eating long enough?
12:55Nah, stop being greedy.
12:56Just keep it real, partner.
12:57Give to the needy.
12:58Ribs is touching.
12:59You feel me?
13:00Don't make me wait.
13:01Mess around and I'm gonna bite you.
13:02Snack the plate.
13:03That's a pretty good DMX impression, gang.
13:04I felt that at 10.
13:05You know what I'm saying?
13:06Yeah.
13:07I could connect with DMX a little more than everybody else.
13:10So it was DMX.
13:12It was Boozy and Webby.
13:14And Quiet Is Kept, one of my favorite albums when I was younger though, was Joe Button's
13:20first album.
13:21You know what I'm saying?
13:22He had a lot of flack because he...
13:23You know what I'm saying?
13:24He had to pump it up, but...
13:25The things he be going through social media wise, but...
13:30He can rap.
13:31He can rap.
13:32And he had a hard album and I be listening to what people be saying because I be around
13:37so much...
13:38I grew up around so much street stuff that when I hear somebody rapping street stuff, I really,
13:44even as a kid, I be analyzing and weighing it up.
13:46You know what I'm saying?
13:47And I felt like he was telling the truth.
13:50You know what I mean?
13:51Mm-hmm.
13:52So if you ever listen to that Joe Button first album, you know what I'm saying?
13:55Then you know.
13:56But that was one of my favorite albums when I was a kid.
13:59I think that came out when I was like probably 13, 14.
14:02That's true.
14:03All right.
14:04So you got a showcase coming up, man.
14:05November 23rd.
14:06Now, originally it was for Inkster Artists, but now I think you've opened it up to pretty
14:10much everybody.
14:11Why are you still here?
14:12I was going to open it up to everybody because I ain't think all the Inkster Artists were serious.
14:16You know what I'm saying?
14:17But now they came around.
14:18Now they came around.
14:19Once they seen I was about to open it up to everybody, the slides got filled the same
14:23day.
14:24All right.
14:25So I'm assuming you-
14:26So shout out to the hood for standing on business.
14:27You know what I mean?
14:28I seen that.
14:29I'm assuming that you saw the same post that I saw.
14:31It was like, who's the best rapper in Inkster?
14:33And it made you go, okay, let's do something with this.
14:35Why was that important to you, bro?
14:37Yeah, because it was like, since everybody having a discussion, it's like, okay, where
14:41we go from here?
14:42We just talking about who the best rappers out here just to have a Facebook conversation?
14:45Right.
14:46Or can we use this to create some motion for everybody that's getting talked about in this
14:51conversation?
14:52You know what I'm saying?
14:53When I synced that, when that post started going viral on Facebook, I'm like, okay,
14:56this is the perfect time to create some motion for them.
14:58Innocent is just talking about it.
14:59Right.
15:00You know what I'm saying?
15:01Let's put it out there then.
15:02Let's piggyback off this and see if they can get somewhere about it instead of just
15:05talking about it on Facebook.
15:06You know what I mean?
15:07Yeah, man.
15:08So, it's November 23rd.
15:09Where is it at, man?
15:10It's November 23rd at Bar 101 in Romulus, right off E-Course in Merriman.
15:14I think it's 31222 E-Course Road.
15:18Okay.
15:19From 8 p.m. to 12.
15:22We got Helliva as one of the hosts.
15:24I mean, it's one of the judges.
15:25We got Ant Beast judging.
15:27We got Brandon Smith.
15:28He the owner of the Star Factory.
15:29He judging.
15:30We got E, Get Your Life Entertainment.
15:32OG, Inkster Native, is one of the judges.
15:35And then we got Murder Mid Media as one of the judges.
15:38And then we got Molly Brazy up in that thing hosting.
15:40So, you know what I'm saying?
15:42It's going to be a night.
15:43It's going to be a lit event for sure.
15:44That's what's up, man.
15:45Last thing, and I'm going to let you get up out of here, man.
15:47What...
15:49First off...
15:50Well, actually, two more things.
15:51What's next for...
15:52What do you think is next for Inkster artists, especially yourself?
15:56Where do you think we go from here?
15:58Because the emotion is there, but it's just like we need another push.
16:01What is the next thing that we need to do to put, you know, foots on the neck?
16:04I think the next thing for Inkster is one or two artists getting all the way in the door
16:10and then just bringing everybody else with them like the Flint wave.
16:13You know what I'm saying?
16:14I think it's like a Flint mirror coming for the Inkster scene.
16:20You know what I'm saying?
16:21Whether it's me, whether it's L.O.M. Rudy, you know what I'm saying?
16:24You know, real rich Izzo, he really the only one from Inkster with a deal right now.
16:29You know what I mean?
16:30But, you know, it's politics involved with that.
16:32So, you know what I mean?
16:34You just never know.
16:35But it's going to be a major artist.
16:39I mean, it's going to be an artist getting on and then opening the door for all the other Inkster artists to come through there too.
16:46You know what I'm saying?
16:47Because once one of us get in the international spotlight like Rio did, you know what I'm saying?
16:52They're going to want to know what else going on out there.
16:54You feel me?
16:55They didn't come in the YNJs.
16:56They didn't come in the Louis Rays.
16:57Even though Louis Rays been rapping for a minute in the Flint.
16:59You know what I'm saying?
17:00But once Rio got on like that, it's like he got there in the national spotlight.
17:04You know what I'm saying?
17:05The RMC Mike's.
17:06You know what I mean?
17:07The YSR Grams.
17:08The 3200 Trey.
17:10It's going to be, I don't know where this is going.
17:13Who's going to be the Rio the Young OG from Inkster?
17:15But once it happens, Inkster is going to have a wave.
17:17You know what I'm saying?
17:18We just small and we just got to learn how to work with each other.
17:21You know what I'm saying?
17:22Work with each other and put a couple of things, you know what I mean?
17:24To the side.
17:25But if we can do that, you know, it's a bag coming for sure.
17:28Nice.
17:29All right.
17:30Last thing, man, I'm going to let you get up out of here.
17:31Your project Surgical is out right now.
17:33What else you got coming for, you know, for people to be on the lookout for?
17:37I know you got some music or some shows and more things on the way.
17:40So let people know what they should be on the lookout for.
17:42Absolutely.
17:43Be on the lookout for all the videos dropping from Surgical.
17:46But the next album I'm about to drop is a joint album with me and Helliva and Ant Beats next now.
17:51You know what I'm saying?
17:52Every song on Surgical, Ant Beats did.
17:54You know what I'm saying?
17:55It's only one song that's another with Ant Beats and Beat Gang.
17:59You know what I'm saying?
18:00It's only one song with other producers, but Ant Beats still on there.
18:03And it's Helliva, Ant Beats, and M-I-A-J-C all on the same track.
18:07You know what I'm saying?
18:08That's Bill Pickett off Surgical.
18:09But I'm about to do another joint album with Ant Beats and Helliva.
18:12And then I got a show December 13th in Atlanta at Atmosphere in Riverdale.
18:18That's a lot of hood.
18:19And that's where they be saying T.I used to be at too.
18:22But that's December 13th.
18:24YTB Facts, Rio de Youngo G, Jack Funny, Rush Boy Trey, me.
18:30They got a couple of the baddies hosting.
18:33I think, what's her name?
18:35I think Big Lex, the baddies, and Dolly.
18:39So it's going to be time for show.
18:42You know, hood to hood.
18:43Might catch a couple flights down there.
18:45T.Dot Pringle, man, I appreciate you for coming, man.
18:48Chopping it up with me, man.
18:50You're walking back anytime, brother.
18:51And shout out your Instagram and everything,
18:53so people can make sure they can follow you and everything.
18:55Yeah, follow me on Instagram at 423TDOT.
18:58That's 423TDOT.
19:00YouTube, T.DOT, T.DOT, Pringle.
19:03Yeah, everything run together.
19:04Type one in.
19:05The rest should pop up, though.
19:06It's 105 in the bounce.
19:08Showtime is dark.
19:09T.DOT Pringle.
19:10Peace.
19:11Y'all.
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