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00:00Gracias por ver el video.
00:30I'm Gio Benitez at New York's LaGuardia Airport. 1,200 flights canceled today. More than 8,000 nationwide since Friday. So when will travelers feel relief?
00:41Dozens of cruise ship passengers rescued from the water after a catamaran carrying 50 sinks into the ocean. What caused this tourist boat to go down in the Caribbean?
00:50And in tonight's Prime Focus, an in-depth investigation into the events of this past New Year's Day.
00:56When it first seemed like an attack on our country, but officers and loved ones say it was actually one soldier's spiral from war veteran to tragedy.
01:04You used the word attack. Did you think this was an attack?
01:08I don't think it's a simple coincidence that what's being reported to me is a bomb just went off in the Trump Tower.
01:14From ABC News World Headquarters in New York, this is Prime with Lindsay Davis.
01:21Good evening, everyone. I'm Lindsay Davis. Thanks so much for streaming with us.
01:27We, of course, are tracking the shutdown and its imminent end and the domino effect of those major travel delays.
01:33But we do begin with the first blast of winter weather. Millions are facing heavy snow and a deep freeze from the Midwest to the deep south into the northeast.
01:43Wind chills plunging into the 20s and 30s again tomorrow from Minneapolis to Jacksonville to New York.
01:49Not even December yet, but more than a foot of snow fell in some areas, including near Syracuse, New York.
01:55This is not the time to be out on the roads in some areas. Snow and icy highways up and down the East Coast.
02:01And, of course, this weather is only exacerbating the major travel issues.
02:06When will the bitter cold move on? Lee Goldberg is standing by.
02:09But first, ABC's Janae Norman leads us off from western New York.
02:15Tonight, howling winds, whiteout conditions and treacherous roads.
02:19Millions stunned by an early punch of winter cold that's bringing the first major snow of the season.
02:25More than a foot of snow and blizzard-like conditions in West Virginia.
02:29On Interstate 77 in Jackson County, Eric Ambrose crashed his pickup.
02:34Black truck, kind of similar to mine, started to change lanes, hit the front end of my truck.
02:40I hit ice, lost control, went through the median and over the guardrail.
02:45He then watched helplessly as a tractor-trailer slammed into the responding officer's cruiser right in front of him.
02:52No one was seriously hurt.
02:54North of Syracuse, nearly a foot of snow and counting in Central Square, New York.
03:00Winds gusting to 40 miles an hour in the Northeast, making it feel even colder from New York City to Philly.
03:07We're sitting at the freezing mark, but look at this deep area of pink and purple dipping all the way to the south.
03:13Yeah, they're at 28 in Atlanta.
03:15That southern cold, fueling snow squalls over red trees in Virginia.
03:21Winter overtaking fall.
03:23Janae Norman, let's start with a little tsk, tsk, tsk.
03:27Where is your winter hat?
03:29She joins us now from the Buffalo area.
03:31So give us a sense of the conditions where you are.
03:35Well, Lindsay, I know, no hat, no scarf, but still braving the cold temperatures here.
03:41Here in Buffalo, it's not over just yet.
03:44Up to five more inches of snow are expected in this area through tomorrow morning, and that's along with those frigid temperatures.
03:50So hopefully everyone around here tomorrow, Lindsay, bundles up better than I did.
03:54All right.
03:55Yes, word to the wise.
03:56Just look at Janae Norman.
03:57Thanks so much, Janae.
03:59Let's get right to Chief Meteorologist Lee Goldberg from our partner station in New York, WABC.
04:05Already see it.
04:06The major cold blast.
04:07It's blue everywhere.
04:08Yes, I appreciate it.
04:09Let me forecast from inside today.
04:10It's been blustery up and down the East Coast.
04:13We had record lows this morning in the South.
04:15It was blustery in New York City.
04:16First trace of snow and all types of snows downwind of the Great Lakes.
04:19Well, on Wednesday morning, there still could be some record cold, some freeze warnings across parts of Georgia and Florida.
04:25Wind chills in the 30s, wind chills in the 20s in the Great Lakes into the Northeast.
04:29But the core of the cold is lifting out.
04:30We'll still have to deal with some lake effect snows, at least in the first part of Wednesday.
04:35We've already seen up to a foot of snow east of Lake Ontario.
04:37We can see a few inches more upstate New York and in New England.
04:40But here comes the relief.
04:41Look at all the warmth in the West, 10 to 20 degrees above average.
04:45And then that erases the chill in the East.
04:47We're in the 60s and 70s from the Midwest and the Plains, even 80s from Texas into Florida.
04:52The only area that struggles with the temperatures in the Northeast.
04:54Otherwise, lots of above normal temperatures into early next week.
04:57Lindsay?
04:57We will take those above normal temperatures.
05:00L to the G, thanks so much.
05:02Meanwhile, the weather and the ongoing government shutdown are only adding to the growing frustration at America's airports.
05:09More than 1,200 flights canceled just in the U.S. today.
05:13And the FAA is expecting to cancel even more flights over the next few days due to the shortage of air traffic controllers.
05:19The chaos is expected to linger even after the government reopens.
05:24Here's our Gio Benitez.
05:26Tonight, an end to the government shutdown finally in sight, but its shockwaves still rippling across the country's airports
05:32after 8,000 flights were canceled since Friday, leaving many passengers stranded.
05:37I will never travel again.
05:39If I travel again, it'll be, I will drive.
05:42In Chicago, Clinton Bradley would rather rent a car than risk his flight getting canceled for a third time.
05:48If they cancel again, then I'm just waiting around all day and I can drive there in eight hours.
05:53Today, another 1,200 flights were canceled because of weather and air traffic control shortages.
05:58But Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says a lot more air traffic controllers are now reporting for work.
06:04On Saturday, we had 81 staffing triggers.
06:08Today, we have four.
06:09So I think our air traffic controllers are seeing an end to the shutdown and feel more hopeful.
06:16Air traffic controllers have worked a month without pay, some taking second jobs to make ends meet.
06:22President Trump says he'll give a $10,000 bonus, but only to controllers who worked through the shutdown.
06:28The ones that say to which there are a lot of them, I'm sending them a $10,000 bonus.
06:33Where's that money coming from?
06:34I don't know.
06:35I'll get it from someplace.
06:36But the president has demanded all air traffic controllers get back to work, threatening to dock the pay of those who don't.
06:44Today, the head of the flight attendants union accused the president of being out of touch.
06:48Not only is it disgraceful, it is another way that we are making it unsettled for these air traffic controllers who have worked through this miraculously without getting paid.
07:00It also shows that the president does not understand where Americans are, living paycheck to paycheck.
07:06Some are concerned that there's a disconnect.
07:08Gio Benitez joins us now from the airport.
07:10Are more flights expected to be cut, Gio?
07:15Well, Lindsay, you know what?
07:16The FAA had said that it would cut as much as 10 percent of flights by Friday.
07:20We're actually told that's still the plan until air traffic controllers get back to work.
07:25Lindsay?
07:25Gio Benitez for us.
07:26Thanks so much, Gio.
07:27And with the shutdown ongoing, members of the House are en route back to Washington, D.C. tonight from all across the country.
07:35Some driving long distances as opposed to flying to get back by tomorrow afternoon.
07:40And tonight, we want to show you how heated the town halls are getting.
07:43Some Americans are asking, what was this 42-day shutdown all about?
07:48Rachel Scott, back on the Hill again tonight.
07:50Tonight, with the longest government shutdown in U.S. history set to come to an end, President Trump declaring victory.
07:57The House is going to vote, and I think they're going to vote positively.
08:01I think most people want to see it open.
08:03After a late-night vote in the Senate.
08:05On this vote, the ayes are 60, the nays are 40.
08:09The bill, as amended, is passed.
08:11Tonight, lawmakers in the House scrambling to get back for a vote tomorrow.
08:16They haven't had to report to Washington for 53 days, and have been paid throughout this shutdown.
08:20With flight cancellations and delays across the country, Republicans Rick Crawford and Trent Kelly carpooling to the Capitol.
08:27Making a quick rest stop in Tennessee, writing on social media, eight more hours to go.
08:32If all members make it back to Washington on time, Republicans can only afford to lose two votes.
08:39Republican Congressman Derek Van Orden riding his motorcycle all the way from Wisconsin.
08:44If the bill passes, it will take time for the government to fully reopen.
08:47Agencies will have to call hundreds of thousands of federal workers who have gone without pay back to work.
08:54The deal funds the government until the end of January, includes months of funding for SNAP,
08:59and calls to rehire the thousands of federal workers the president fired during the shutdown.
09:03But what it doesn't do is extend health care subsidies, a key demand from Democrats,
09:07to keep premiums from rising for more than 20 million Americans.
09:10In Seaside, California, teacher Brianna Vasquez, a mom of two, pays a 282 monthly insurance premium.
09:18That number now skyrocketing to more than $1,000.
09:22We are planning on nothing happening, because I think that's just in our best interest,
09:28is to plan as if they aren't going to pass anything.
09:31And at a town hall in Iowa, Republican Congresswoman Mary Annette Miller-Meeks was asked what the Republican plan is for health care.
09:39So we need to bring the cost of health care down.
09:42Unfortunately, in 2010, when the Affordable Care Act was passed,
09:47What's your new plan?
09:48The reason why I don't do that, it may have been...
09:51Shut up and she'll tell you.
09:53Senate Republicans have promised a future vote on health care, but it's highly unlikely it will pass.
09:58And in the House, Speaker Mike Johnson won't commit to holding a vote on health care at all.
10:03I'm not committing to it or not committing to it.
10:05What I'm saying is that we do a deliberative process.
10:07That's the way this always works, and we have to have time to do that.
10:10In late tonight, Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries calling on Republicans to make a deal.
10:14You now have an opportunity to actually take some action in an area of this health care crisis by working with Democrats.
10:28So many anxious to see how this ultimately shakes out.
10:32Rachel Scott joins us now from Capitol Hill.
10:33And Rachel, there's some late breaking news on SNAP benefits.
10:36When could Americans see them restored?
10:38Well, with the shutdown nearing an end, the Supreme Court weighing in just moments ago
10:42and extending an order that allows the Trump administration not to fully or immediately pay out SNAP benefits
10:48to Americans who rely on them for the month of November.
10:51This has been a back and forth in the courts over the last several days.
10:56And ultimately, though, if Congress does pass this bill to fully fund the government,
11:00those benefits will start flowing to Americans again.
11:03Some 42 million Americans who rely on those federal food assistance will be watching this vote very closely, Lindsay.
11:08Sure will be.
11:09All right, Rachel Scott from Capitol Hill.
11:10Thanks so much, Rachel.
11:12For more now, we are joined by Indiana Republican Congresswoman Erin Houchin.
11:17She's the House Republican Conference Secretary.
11:19Thank you so much for your time.
11:22As we know, members of the House are currently en route back to Washington.
11:25Do you think that enough people will be able to make it back to D.C.
11:29with all the travel delays for the House to vote tomorrow night in order to reopen the government?
11:34I do.
11:34People are en route as we speak.
11:36The Rules Committee, of which I'm a member, will meet tonight at 630.
11:39Our members are all getting back to Washington as we speak.
11:44And we've even got a member, Derek Van Orten, from Wisconsin,
11:47riding his motorcycle all the way to Washington, D.C.
11:50So I think we'll all get here and we will have a vote to reopen the government tomorrow.
11:54Republicans, as you know, can only afford to lose two votes.
11:57Is your caucus united on this bill?
11:59Do you anticipate it passing the House tomorrow night?
12:01I do anticipate that it will pass tomorrow night.
12:04We may even pick up a couple of Democrats in support.
12:06I think that this bill will go across the finish line.
12:10We'll get the government reopened and start paying our federal workers, our air traffic controllers,
12:14and hopefully things will start to get back to normal very quickly.
12:17You think it's right on the first vote?
12:19I do think it will be on the first vote.
12:21I don't expect anything different than that.
12:24We will have a rule that should come out of committee tonight.
12:27And then tomorrow we'll have a debate on the floor and followed by a vote.
12:30And I think we'll see us get the job done.
12:32Every time that we've been counted out, we end up getting the job done,
12:35even if it's just by a couple of votes or even one vote.
12:38So we'll get it.
12:40Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene has been a vocal advocate urging Republicans
12:44to do something about health insurance premiums before the end of the year.
12:47Is that realistic to expect any of the ACA subsidies to be renewed before the end of the year?
12:52Well, I do have concerns about the ACA subsidies.
12:55This is a subsidy on top of a subsidy.
12:57It is a money that we're continuing to throw at a broken program
13:01that really benefits big insurance companies and not working families.
13:05We had a provision in the Working Families Tax Cut Act
13:08that actually would reduce premiums by 12.7%,
13:13and Democrats in the Senate fought to take that out.
13:16These are the conversations that we have to have about health care affordability.
13:20There are ways in which we can do that that may not necessarily involve
13:23permanently extending a subsidy that really only benefits insurance companies and not working families.
13:29So a question for you, because we've been hearing, maybe even in excess of a decade,
13:33Republicans have said Obamacare doesn't work, it's broken, it needs to be fixed.
13:38So what is the solution?
13:40Well, we had the Lower Cost, More Transparency Act that was actually a bipartisan bill
13:45that nearly got across the finish line in the last Congress.
13:48What we've seen over the last several years of Obamacare is the increasing presence of the middleman and the government.
13:55And we know that that results in and has resulted in not affordable health care.
14:00The Affordable Care Act was anything but affordable.
14:04We've seen that.
14:05So we do have to get to the business of making health care in America affordable again.
14:09I think we can do that by reducing the reliance and the influence of pharmacy benefit managers,
14:16which are driving up costs, and actually get to true health insurance reform,
14:20getting us back to more of a free market.
14:23The president supports that.
14:24House Republicans support that.
14:26We are intent on cutting out all the waste, fraud, and abuse,
14:30cutting out the middleman, and putting Americans and their doctors back in charge of their own health care.
14:35Well, are you concerned at all that if there is no solution, let's say by the midterms,
14:40that as some of your colleagues have suggested,
14:43Republicans aren't going to do well in the next few elections?
14:47I think Republicans have to have a conversation within our own conference
14:52about how we will reach health care affordability and housing affordability.
14:55I think that was clear after the election last week that that was an issue that was on the ballot.
15:00And we will get there.
15:01Many of the provisions of the Working Families Tax Cut Act, the One Big Beautiful Bill,
15:05have not come into effect yet.
15:08And we have not yet seen the benefits of that.
15:10But by passing it when we did, we should see those benefits come back
15:14and the economy come roaring back after the first of the year.
15:17We will get through this.
15:19But most importantly, we have to have the government open to do it.
15:22We cannot keep holding the American people hostage.
15:24Congressman Erin Houchen, we thank you so much for your time.
15:27Really appreciate it.
15:28Thank you.
15:28And we also had a chance to talk with one of those eight Senate Democrats
15:32who bucked their party to help reopen the government.
15:35Senator John Fetterman is now out with a new book, Unfettered, today.
15:39Our interview with him airs tomorrow night on Prime.
15:42But we also asked him about the government shutdown.
15:44From the beginning, you voted to reopen the government.
15:49Do you understand why those in your party, many in your party, wanted to not necessarily
15:54keep it shut down, but wanted to make sure that they would have some agreement with regard
16:01to the health care subsidies with the Republicans before it reopened?
16:05I sure hope so.
16:08Every time it was put in front of me, I voted to extend those tax credits.
16:12And I do.
16:13Now, we can have that conversation now between now and December before the vote.
16:18And I remind everybody, if you think shutting our government down was the right thing,
16:22we will have the opportunity to revisit that in January.
16:25And now, I will be there to be a guy to vote, keep it open, keep it open.
16:32We can be very, very committed to those tax credits, but it's the wrong tactic.
16:38And I refuse to hold our government hostage and plunge our country in chaos, particularly
16:43the 42 million Americans that depend on SNAP to feed themselves and their families and making
16:49flying less safe in our country.
16:52That's not a risk I'm willing to take.
16:56Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on the Senate floor that he would vote no to reopen the government.
17:01Do you think that Schumer is the best voice to represent the big tent that is the Democratic
17:06Party right now?
17:08Well, back in March, you know, Chuck and I agreed with each other, but I'm not going to
17:13be the kind of dem that's going to pile on him after that.
17:16I know it's difficult.
17:18And that was a difficult vote for all eight of us.
17:20I don't think any of us took any pleasure in voting against the majority of our other
17:25colleagues, but we happen to believe it's the right thing.
17:28And I happen to know there were plenty of other Democrats that voted no, but they knew
17:34that it was the right thing to do.
17:35So that it was a difficult vote.
17:38And I don't think that this dem on dem violence kind of thing is appropriate.
17:43And it's definitely not helpful.
17:45And it's actually inappropriate because people sometimes hard votes are needed.
17:51And those were one because we have to move on.
17:56Our thanks to Senator Fetterman for the conversation.
18:00We'll again hear more from him on his new book tomorrow.
18:02Meanwhile, there are disturbing new claims against the owners of Camp Mystic in Texas.
18:06Families of some of the 27 girls and counselors who died in the summer's devastating flood have
18:12now filed multiple lawsuits arguing their deaths were entirely preventable.
18:16What they claimed happened when counselors began asking for help.
18:20Here's Trevor Rall.
18:20Tonight, families of some of the 27 girls and counselors killed at Camp Mystic in those horrific
18:27Texas floods, filing multiple lawsuits alleging a disturbing timeline of inaction from camp
18:33operators in what they say was an entirely preventable tragedy.
18:38They claim on July 4th, when the Guadalupe River rose 26 feet, camp leaders ignored repeated
18:44weather warnings and failed to evacuate, ordering campers remain in their cabins for more than an
18:50hour while they instead work to protect equipment.
18:53The lawsuit also alleges when counselors sounded the alarm asking for help, operators of the
18:58camp told the girls to, quote, put down towels and only decided to evacuate the children after a
19:04gatekeeper in a separate building was washed away.
19:08Caitlin Bonner is one of the parents suing.
19:10She previously testified about the death of her daughter, Lila.
19:14This loss is one no parent should have to endure.
19:17In a statement tonight, the attorney for Camp Mystic says these accusations contain misinformation
19:22they'll address in court.
19:24And while they empathized with the families, no adequate warning systems existed in the
19:29area.
19:30The camp says we continue to pray for the grieving families and ask for God's healing and comfort.
19:36So many still mindful of their loss.
19:39Trevor joins us now.
19:40Trevor, what do we know about the future of Camp Mystic?
19:43So, Lindsay, Camp Mystic has already announced plans to reopen next year.
19:49They say they'll have emergency plans in place that comply with newly passed laws in Texas,
19:53and they're planning to have a memorial for those 27 victims, both the counselors and all
19:58of these young girls.
19:59But a number of the families of those young girls are objecting to the reopening, especially
20:04as one of those girls is still missing.
20:06Lindsay?
20:07All right, Trevor Oldfors.
20:08Thanks so much, Trevor.
20:09Now to the startling images that appear to show the conductor of a San Francisco commuter
20:14train asleep at the controls, with the train traveling up to 50 miles an hour.
20:19Video captured frightened passengers being thrown back and forth until the conductor finally
20:24wakes up.
20:25Here's Melissa Adon.
20:28Tonight, harrowing moments for these passengers on a San Francisco commuter train.
20:32Just after 8.30 a.m., security camera footage from September showing the operator appearing
20:39to doze off as the train accelerates down the tracks.
20:43That train exiting the sunset tunnel, nearing 50 miles per hour.
20:48Passengers, unaware of what was happening, suddenly thrown side to side in the car.
20:53The driver apparently shaken awake, frantically trying to stop.
20:57But that train kept going, speeding past a stop with waiting commuters barreling into that
21:03curve, nearly hitting an oncoming car, before finally coming to a stop.
21:09That driver appearing to blame the incident on malfunctioning equipment.
21:13I'm sorry.
21:14Relax, relax, relax.
21:16Relax.
21:17We didn't crash.
21:18But tonight, the city's transit officials confirming the cause was, quote, operator fatigue.
21:25Lindsay, one passenger said they suffered a concussion, and officials say that driver
21:29was pulled from operating trains.
21:32Lindsay?
21:32Some scary moments there, Melissa.
21:33Thank you.
21:34Tributes are pouring in for actress Sally Kirkland.
21:37She was fiercely independent and a trailblazer in her own right.
21:40Kirkland is best known for her role in Anna and The Sting, but her career spanned more than
21:45six decades.
21:46Here's ABC's Matt Gutman.
21:49Sally, Sally.
21:50Sally Kirkland was a force on the big screen, instantly recognizable with her trademark blonde
21:55hair and larger-than-life personality.
21:57Her acting career spanning decades, from the stage to the big screen, with Kirkland appearing
22:02in more than 200 movies.
22:04I need the fun.
22:05Thanks.
22:06I'll spend 50 on you.
22:07Can't make it any, because don't I ask?
22:08Yeah.
22:09Yeah.
22:10And guest starring in some of TV's biggest hits.
22:13Barbara Healy?
22:14Yeah.
22:14Yeah, I'm Roseanne Connor.
22:17Kirkland had supporting roles alongside Hollywood legends, Paul Newman and Robert Redford in
22:22the 1973 classic, The Sting.
22:24Thanks for the big evening, Hooker.
22:26Next time you want to submit 50 bucks on me, mail it.
22:29But it was 1987's Anna that earned Kirkland the Best Actress Oscar nomination.
22:34Watch out, punk.
22:35Kirkland also taking home the Golden Globe that year.
22:38You have made my day, my week, my month, my year, my lifetime.
22:41According to her agent, Kirkland passed away of natural causes this morning in hospice in
22:46Palm Springs.
22:47She was 84.
22:49In a statement today, her talent manager telling ABC News, Sally transcended time and space in
22:54her career.
22:55Her passion for the art of acting was contagious to all who worked with her, and regardless
23:00of the role, she gave it 1,000%.
23:03Our thanks to Matt Gutman, a frightening rescue at sea for travelers on a cruise.
23:0955 passengers, some of them Americans, were rescued when their excursion catamaran sank
23:13off the coast of the Dominican Republic.
23:15The catamaran had set off from New York last month.
23:18The Dominican Navy shared footage of the dramatic rescue.
23:22Fortunately, only minor injuries were reported.
23:24And still ahead, the end is near for one of the most prolific soccer stars of all time,
23:30Cristiano Ronaldo's hint at when he'll be hanging up his cleats for good.
23:34It started as a probe into what looked like an attack on our country, but as the investigation
23:39unfolded, a soldier's story of mental health came to the forefront.
23:43If a soldier goes and says, I'm suffering, I'm hurting, and they say that to a psychologist
23:52or a physician, they run the risk of being pulled off deployable status, and nobody wants
23:59that.
24:01But first, could President Trump's idea of creating a 50-year mortgage really help younger
24:05Americans purchase a home?
24:07What that kind of mortgage would look like for the buyer by the numbers.
24:13Welcome back, everyone.
24:18Over the weekend, President Trump suggested creating a 50-year mortgage to encourage younger
24:23Americans to buy real estate, which the U.S. Director of Federal Housing claimed was in
24:27the works.
24:27The idea of a longer mortgage plan would be to stretch the payments longer into the future
24:32to bring monthly costs down.
24:35The plan has caused varied reactions, with an AP analysis showing that even with lower
24:40monthly costs, consumers could still pay more in the long run with interest costs.
24:44Let's look at housing costs today by the numbers.
24:48The median sales price for all types of housing was $415,200 in September, according to new
24:54data from the National Association of Retailers.
24:57That's an increase of 2.1% from a year before.
25:00That data also said a record low 21% of all homebuyers in the U.S. this year were first-time
25:07homebuyers.
25:08And the median age for first-time buyers had reached 40 years of age, which is a record
25:13high.
25:13Data from the brokerage firm Redfin said that the typical U.S. household in the U.S. currently
25:18spends 39% of its income on mortgage repayments.
25:22The company also estimated a typical homebuyer would need to earn roughly $25,000 more dollars
25:28in the average household to afford a median-priced home.
25:30We should also note that the Dodd-Frank Act does not allow for a mortgage plan longer than
25:3630 years, so policy changes would be needed for a 50-year mortgage to actually happen.
25:42And joining us now to discuss this further is Ben Harris, who's vice president and director
25:47of economic studies at the Brookings Institute.
25:49Ben, thanks so much for joining us.
25:51The president touts such a mortgage product as helping potential homeowners.
25:55How do you see it?
25:58With any policy proposal, there's obviously trade-offs.
26:01And the fundamental trade-off for consumers is a slightly reduced monthly payment.
26:06So at the typical mortgage in the United States, at a typical rate, we're talking about the
26:10average payment going from around $2,800 a month to around $2,500 a month, so a reduction
26:16of $300.
26:18But there is a big downside, and that's that, A, that lenders or borrowers are going to take
26:24an extra 20 years to repay the mortgage.
26:26And also, they're going to pay a lot more interest over the life of the mortgage, so around $1.1
26:31million instead of about $550,000.
26:35So it's really not a great trade-off for potential homebuyers.
26:38It also means a lot less housing equity, which can come into play down the line when we're
26:43talking about retirement security and household wealth.
26:46So I think it's only an appropriate product for a small share of potential homebuyers.
26:51For the rest, they're probably losing out.
26:53And is this something that banks would even want?
26:54I mean, we just saw there that the average age right now of people buying a home is 40
26:58years old.
26:59So that means they'd still be paying their home off at 90.
27:04Yeah, exactly.
27:05I mean, there's a big question as far as whether or not investors will see this as an attractive
27:09product.
27:10If they don't, it's going to mean higher costs for those taking out mortgages because they're
27:16going to have to compensate the investors for taking on this extra risk.
27:21So it remains to be seen whether or not this is an appealing product, both from the consumer
27:25side, but also from the investor side.
27:27Also, as you noted from the outset, the president would need Congress's cooperation in passing
27:32this.
27:32My take is this isn't a Congress that necessarily wants to take on a lot of new legislation right
27:36now.
27:37So it seems like right now it's just an idea.
27:39I know it certainly will get its day at some point, but for right now, it doesn't seem
27:43like it's going to happen anytime soon.
27:44Of course, as we're talking about home buying, what are some practical ways to make home buying
27:50more affordable?
27:53Yes, there's really only three major approaches that you can take.
27:56One is to lower the cost of home buying.
27:58So that can mean, for example, injecting more competition to the realtor market, for example.
28:03It can also mean less costs of materials.
28:07And the president's tariff regime right now has actually raised the cost of lumber.
28:11It's raised the cost of appliances.
28:13So somewhat counterproductive to his goals.
28:16The second thing you can do to make home buying more affordable is to raise people's
28:19incomes.
28:19And that's a tough thing to do.
28:21That means making workers more productive.
28:24That means more competition in the labor market.
28:26That's the type of thing which often plays out over decades, if not longer.
28:30The last thing you can do to make homes more affordable, and probably the best thing you
28:34can do from a policymaker standpoint, is to build more homes.
28:37And that's tough from a federal policymaker's perspective, because most of those decisions
28:42come at the local level when it comes down to zoning and other things.
28:46So the president has his hands tied to a certain degree.
28:50But ultimately, the real answer to making homes more affordable is simply to build more of
28:54them.
28:55And that's a tough thing to do at the federal level.
28:57Ben Harris of the Brookings Institution.
28:59We thank you so much for your time and insight tonight.
29:01Appreciate it.
29:02Thank you.
29:03Coming up, the remarkable price and provenance of a special blue diamond that just sold
29:08at auction.
29:09And investigators first believed the large explosion New Year's Day at Trump Hotel Las
29:13Vegas was a coordinated attack on our country.
29:16But this Veterans Day, we hear from officers and loved ones who say it was actually an all
29:20too common spiral of a decorated soldier.
29:23Welcome back, everyone.
29:32On this Veterans Day, new details tonight about an explosion that many at first thought was
29:37an attack on our country.
29:38For the first time, we're now hearing from those behind the investigation.
29:42And we're learning why officers and loved ones say what they thought was an attack turned
29:47out to be something different entirely.
29:49One soldier's spiral from war veteran to tragedy.
29:53Aaron Katursky has this story.
29:54It's a city known for its bright lights and big shows.
30:01And on New Year's Eve, Las Vegas hosts a huge countdown known as America's Party.
30:06Similar to New York City, it's an international stage.
30:09City's literally bursting at the seams.
30:12Were you tracking anything in particular in terms of threat?
30:15There's not a New Year's Eve that goes by that we're not tracking a number of threats
30:19coming in globally and locally.
30:22As hundreds of thousands of revelers prepared to welcome 2025, the Las Vegas Metro Police
30:27Department was on high alert.
30:29It's one of those nights that I hold my breath for quite a while, you know.
30:38While law enforcement activity was winding down in Vegas, a drastically different scene
30:43was unfolding at a New Year's Eve celebration 1,700 miles away.
30:47A suspect drove a truck into a crowd on New Orleans' Bourbon Street, killing 14 people and injuring
30:55more than 50 others.
30:56You know, you immediately, right away, you go to a terrorist attack.
30:59We train nowadays that when you see one attack, expect a second.
31:03Then, just a few hours later, as many were still sleeping off their celebration, chaos near the
31:10Las Vegas Strip.
31:119-1-1 emergency.
31:13Someone just attacked Trump Towers.
31:16It's a huge explosion.
31:18Does it damage anything, sir?
31:20It's an attack for sure.
31:22I heard something happen in New Orleans this morning.
31:25It must be people going crazy.
31:28What's in your head at that moment?
31:31You've just been watching what's unfolding in New Orleans.
31:33Then this happens in your city.
31:35I knew that if there was an attack here, it's time for us to get into motion.
31:38You used the word attack.
31:40Did you think this was an attack?
31:42I don't think it's a simple coincidence.
31:45Assistant Sheriff Dory Koren was one of dozens of officers who rushed to Trump International
31:49Hotel and found a Tesla Cybertruck engulfed in flames.
31:54Our priorities were very simple.
31:55Address the threat that we were dealing with and then determine if there was any further threat.
32:00First responders helped six people who were injured in the explosion, then work to secure
32:04the area and start trying to piece together how it happened.
32:08It takes the urgency to a new level because now you're worried, is there yet a third attack
32:12coming somewhere else?
32:15Nearly 36 hours after the explosion, a break in the case.
32:19Officials naming Matthew Leibelsberger as the suspect, a 37-year-old Army Master Sergeant
32:25and Special Operations Soldier who was on leave from his post in Germany.
32:29We recovered a military ID.
32:31We recovered a passport.
32:33There were aspects of it that you could still make out words or names or pictures.
32:37Our team did a phenomenal job, really dug deep, and were able to quickly pivot from that and
32:41determine that there was no connection to the attack in New Orleans.
32:45Surveillance footage showed and an autopsy confirmed Leibelsberger detonated explosives
32:50inside the vehicle and died of a self-inflicted gunshot.
32:53We were in touch with people in Colorado.
32:55The FBI also sent leads overseas to talk with teammates of his that were located in Europe,
33:01family members, friends, anyone that we could get a hold of that would help paint a more
33:05fulsome picture. Was he someone who was ever on your radar?
33:08I'm not aware that he was ever on the radar of law enforcement previously.
33:13I would go so far as to say, from what I've been able to see of his military record,
33:17he'd be what you described as a military hero.
33:21As law enforcement searched for answers, ABC News spent six months investigating someone who
33:26served his country and battled with the invisible wounds of war.
33:30Me and Matt met in 2018.
33:33Alicia Arit dated Leibelsberger for about two years. She says they stayed in contact after
33:38their relationship ended, but lost touch in 2022. She was surprised to hear from him a few days before
33:44the new year.
33:45I was happy to hear him doing well. He said there was a lot to talk about.
33:50Arit is a nurse and was working on New Year's Eve. She says she first learned about what happened in
33:54Las Vegas when federal investigators showed up at her door.
33:58My heart just dropped. I thought it had to be an accident. I thought he was maybe trapped inside
34:04and it exploded. And that's when the FBI made me watch the video to kind of prove it to me.
34:11In text messages she shared with ABC News, Leibelsberger talked to Arit about struggling
34:16with headaches and his mental health while they were dating. At one point writing,
34:20I have been spiraling down the last week or so. Sometimes I get so hopeless and depressed,
34:25it's ridiculous, by far the worst of my life.
34:28He texted you about seeking help, maybe professionally.
34:32I always encouraged him to talk to somebody. I've lost a lot of friends in the military over
34:39the years and I didn't want that to happen to him too.
34:42Writings investigators found on Leibelsberger's phone point to a man in crisis. One entry reading
34:47in part,
34:48The mainstream media will paint me out to be some terrorist and monster. I had no intent of taking
34:53out anyone but myself. I served my country for my entire adult life and I got caught up in some
34:59craziness. We're talking about soldiers who have, yes, very high risk of impact force,
35:06blunt force, you know, impact forces to the brain.
35:09Chris Free is a clinical psychologist who has worked with military veterans and active duty
35:14personnel for three decades. Free never treated Leibelsberger, but he says special operators
35:19are at a higher risk for brain related issues.
35:22He had a long career. So I think it's inevitable that he had the, has the blast injuries.
35:28Is there a reluctance to seek out mental health care or acknowledge what's going on?
35:35If a, if a soldier goes and says, I'm suffering, I'm hurting. And they say that to,
35:42you know, a psychologist or a physician, they, they run the risk of being pulled off deployment,
35:48deployable status. And nobody wants that.
35:50One thing we know about the people who self-select to serve in the military is that
35:54they're going to be patriots and they're going to care for their country above self.
35:58Democratic Representative Chrissy Houlihan says she knows the pressures that can come with serving
36:03the country. The Air Force veteran grew up in a military family. Houlihan says stories like
36:08Leibelsberger's are examples of forward progress being erased. Some of the work that we had done
36:13collectively to make sure that our men and women in uniform are safer is being undermined right now.
36:19In March, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth signed a memo offering voluntary early retirement to
36:25eligible civilian employees, a move the letter says is designed to refocus available resources.
36:31With volunteer, you know, early retirements, we've been taking tens of thousands of people out of
36:38the system who would normally be there to help people to when they're in those acute moments of
36:43stress. The Army's chief of public affairs said in a statement to ABC News, the Army is fully
36:49committed to assisting our soldiers and has a multitude of behavioral health professionals and
36:53resources available to our soldiers around the clock. The statement also said Leibelsberger had
36:58access to and used a program that provides physical, cognitive and medical care, and that he did
37:04not display any concerning behaviors at the time and was granted personal leave. You're a veteran
37:10yourself. What other lessons and takeaways for you, for the department, from this particular incident?
37:18Combat is a terrible thing for these individuals to have to go through. It also exposed again the
37:25responsibility of us to take care of those individuals after they're exposed to that trauma.
37:30Alicia Errett believes Leibelsberger was struggling with asking for help.
37:34She says she hopes sharing his story will convince everyone to take better care of those who protect
37:39this country. And I think we need to do more for everyone like him. There's so many more who are
37:45dying every day that don't get the public attention that he got.
37:48All right, thanks to Aaron for sharing that story. Coming up, he has become the face of romance
37:56scams. Literally, meet the man who's become a victim of online schemes, all because of his pictures.
38:03And you know Rob Riggle, the actor and comedian. But how about Rob Riggle, the lieutenant colonel in
38:08the Marine Corps? On this Veterans Day, Rob Riggle is here to talk about his new book,
38:12Grit, Spit and Never Quit, A Marine's Guide to Comedy and Life.
38:24What's in a Face? Beat the man whose picture has been used for romance scams for the last decade.
38:29One of the best soccer players confirms that he'll soon be hanging up his cleats for good.
38:34And he's the ultimate good boy. A golden doodle saves his entire family from a burning house.
38:40These stories and more in tonight's rundown.
38:47A massive blue diamond weighing nearly 10 carats was sold at auction in Switzerland for more than
38:5326 million dollars. The dazzling stone was graded by the Gemological Institute of America as fancy,
39:00vivid blue and internally flawless. The pear-shaped gem is named melon blue after the late philanthropist,
39:06Rachel Mellon. The stoner was part of the private collection of Mellon until she passed in 2014.
39:13Soccer legend Cristiano Ronaldo said next year's World Cup will definitely be his last as he chases
39:19one of the few trophies he has never won World Cup champion. The 41-year-old says he still feels sharp
39:26on the pitch but expects to retire in the next year or two. He'll likely exit the game with several
39:31records including most goals scored in international competitions with 143 goals since he first put on
39:37the Portuguese national kit back in 2003. Scientists have stumbled upon a new species of bee living in
39:45Australia with a unique set of horns on its head earning the name Lucifer. The technical name of the
39:51species is Megachyle lucifer and it was discovered in the gold fields of Western Australia. According to
39:58the scientists the DNA of this species didn't match any known bees in databases or museum collections
40:04and the devil-like horns are only on the female bees but their exact function remains unclear.
40:11A pet golden doodle is being credited with saving a family from their burning home. A two-year-old dog
40:17named Chase spotted the fire and woke up his family who were able to escape from the burning house
40:22unharmed. Fire officials arrived on the scene and rescued an elderly couple who lived next door.
40:27The fire chief stressed the importance of having working smoke detectors in your house
40:31or a four-legged friend like Chase. Do you know this man? For the last 15 years a man named Scott Cole has
40:39had his pictures used to create fake social media accounts intended to scam women lured in by his
40:44appearance. Cole told ABC news that he has been hearing from women in numerous countries who say
40:49that they either nearly fell for the scam or lost thousands of dollars even hundreds of thousands as
40:54a result of messages from profiles on social media platforms that use Cole's photos. The 63-year-old says
41:01he tries to document each case of his stolen identity but social media platforms have been slow to
41:06respond. Cole said that he has filed two reports with the FBI but also has not heard back.
41:11Former President Barack Obama gave a group of war heroes a big surprise they'll never forget.
41:18The 44th president surprised the flight of Korean and Vietnam war veterans on an honor flight from
41:24Wisconsin to Washington D.C. ahead of Veterans Day. Hello everybody. What? As we approach Veterans Day,
41:32I wanted to stop by and just say thank you for your extraordinary service.
41:36Not many comedians can also claim a parallel career in the Marine Corps but Rob Riggle can.
41:45In between several deployments he joined the Upright Citizens Brigade,
41:48then The Daily Show and starred in movies like 21 and 22 Jump Street and of course The Hangover.
41:54Don't be afraid to ride the lightning.
42:05Now Riggle's new memoir Grit Spit and Never Quit, A Marine's Guide to Comedy and Life explores his
42:11journey. Arashan Singh sat down with him today. Rob Riggle thanks so much for joining us and from all of
42:17us at ABC News, thank you so much for your service. Thank you for saying that. Congratulations on the
42:22book. I want to talk to you a little bit about this idea of teamwork and what you learned from the
42:27Marine Corps and how you kind of incorporated it to your comedy career and the world of improv.
42:31It's a big part of what you learn in the Marine Corps is how to be part of a team and in comedy,
42:38especially long-form improv comedy, you're on stage with an ensemble, a group of other comedians,
42:44and you're you're trying to serve the comedy, not necessarily yourself, not necessarily anything
42:49you're doing because it's not about you. It's about whatever the scene is about and trying to make
42:53that the funniest best scene. So there's a lot of teamwork involved in that as well. Yeah,
42:57I think when people think of the armed forces and the rigidity of it, I feel like improv doesn't
43:02necessarily come to mind. Oh, no, it should come to mind because how do you adjust to the free-flowing
43:08nature of that world? If you talk about comedy and military, yeah, there's those are two separate
43:13lanes, right? But if you're talking about thinking, reacting, improvising, you do have to adapt
43:21in the military. You have to adapt every day to every situation. And when you improvise, you get
43:26on stage, you don't know where the scene's going to go. You don't know what's going to happen. You
43:30don't know what your scene partner is going to say and or do. So you have to be able to respond,
43:34reply, think on your feet, write on your feet. So mindset-wise, there's a lot of similarities.
43:40Yeah, you talk a little bit about after 9-11, realizing that you may be putting your life
43:45on the line in Afghanistan again. What was it like going to such a dangerous place during that time?
43:51And how did experiences that we see from the United States that we look at as harrowing,
43:57how did that inform your comedy? You know, if you're going to be in the Marines,
44:00you got to have a thick skin. You got to be able to overcome failure. You got to be able to get
44:06up when you're knocked down. You got to be able to do a lot of things, a never-say-die attitude.
44:12When you get into a life in the arts, there's a lot of similarities. You get knocked down a lot.
44:17You get told no a lot. There's a lot of obstacles thrown in your way. And you have to decide what
44:23you want. And then you have to get up and dust yourself off and get back in there.
44:26For sure. You mentioned improv at the UCB, being one of your first loves. You studied acting and
44:32performing at the university level. When did you realize that you might be able to do comedy
44:37professionally as a career? Oh, I wanted it. There's a difference between knowing you can
44:42do it and wanting it. And even when you got that first job, you still don't know
44:47if that's going to be enough. You just have to commit, I think. You have to commit to the life,
44:53which is not easy to do. And when I say that, you still have to have a day job.
44:57You actually returned to the Middle East in 2007 as a part of the USO tour when you were
45:01a correspondent on the Daily Show. I mean, you were still in the Marine Corps Reserve at the time.
45:07What was it like coming back to the battlefield, but from a different perspective?
45:11Well, I remember whenever I was deployed, I never got a USO show. I never got a single show
45:18in all my deployments. I've always felt ripped off. So I kind of made a little personal pledge to myself
45:25that if I ever got into a place or a position where I could go do a show,
45:28a USO show for the troops, I was going to do it. What have you learned about yourself
45:33through your career, especially as now you're not just in your second, now you're in your third act
45:38as an author, right? Yeah. You know, there is no finish line. That's one thing I did learn.
45:44You know, people think you get to a certain level in your profession, whatever it may be,
45:49and maybe you can coast or maybe you can sit back or maybe you can rest on your laurel.
45:55Not a life in the arts. If you're not growing, you're dying, right? So you need to find ways to
46:01grow. And that can be in a lot of different ways. I just want to ask you, what is your pitch to young
46:07people and people all over the country to continue serving our country and especially the Marine Corps?
46:12You should always think about serving something a little bit bigger than yourself. You know,
46:16whether that's through your faith, whether that's through the Peace Corps or the Marine Corps.
46:21I personally believe that this country is fantastic. We're not perfect. No country is.
46:28You can look all over the world, I promise you, no country is. But we're pretty good and we have a
46:33pretty good idea and we have a pretty good basis and we, I think we do okay. We can always improve.
46:39So this is a great country to serve and protect. Rob Riggle, thank you so much for your service
46:43and congratulations on the memoir. Thank you very much. There is no finish line.
46:47Great message for us all. Our thanks to Ashan Singh for that conversation. And that is our show for
46:52this hour. I'm Lindsay Davis. Be sure to stay tuned to ABC News Live for more context and analysis of
46:56the day's top stories. Thank you so much for streaming with us.
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