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Doctors behind Delhi blast exposed, Dr Shaheen tasked to lead Jaish women's wing
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00:00All those responsible will be brought to justice.
00:30India's premier anti-terror organization, which is the National Investigation Agency,
00:50has now taken over the probe into the blast which happened in Delhi.
00:55That's our top focus this hour.
00:57Hello, everyone.
00:58And here's what's making headlines.
01:01Another CCTV footage of the I-20 car has surfaced.
01:04The suspect, Dr. Umar, is seen inside the I-20 wearing a black mask.
01:08The car entered Delhi from the Badarpur Toll Plaza at 8.13 a.m.
01:14Later, the I-20 was seen parked near a mosque close to the Red Fort before the attack.
01:23Heat on more doctors of terror after Delhi blasts.
01:27Jihadi lady doctor of terror Shaheen Shahid involved in Faridabad terror module.
01:33Sources say Jihadi doctor was tasked to establish Jaish's women's wing.
01:40As the death toll in the Delhi blast rises to 10, Prime Minister Modi sounds a big warning.
01:51Asserts that conspirators won't be spared, will be taken to task.
01:56All those responsible will be brought to justice.
02:16And Bihar looks set to replicate its historic voter turnout in phase two of the polling as well.
02:41Over 60.4% turnout recorded by 3 p.m.
02:45And we are starting with the piece of breaking news which is coming in now.
03:08Home Minister Amit Shah has chaired a review meeting on the Delhi blast case with senior officials
03:14officials and have instructed them to hunt down each and every culprit behind this incident.
03:20Everyone involved in this act will face the full wrath of the agency.
03:26This is the message which is coming in from the Home Minister.
03:30Those are the visuals coming in.
03:31Home Minister Amit Shah with Home Secretary and heads of various investigating agencies.
03:38Remember, this is a multi-agency probe which is now being led by the premium anti-terror agency
03:45which is the National Investigations Agency, the NIA.
03:49Let me go straight to Aishwarya Paliwal who joins me live.
03:52Aishwarya, we are looking at several top-ranking officials of India's premier agencies present in that meeting with the Home Minister.
04:02What are you picking up?
04:03What are your sources telling you?
04:08Well, Maria, one thing is very clear.
04:10The government will not let this go.
04:11And the meeting that we are seeing, this is just one of the many meetings that Home Minister Amit Shah has taken.
04:17And the message is very, very clear.
04:19We will hunt down the last person responsible for this.
04:22And that's the message that even Prime Minister Narendra Modi has given.
04:26He's now said that no one will be spared.
04:28We will make sure that we reach the last person responsible for this.
04:32This is something that India does not take well.
04:35And also, what needs to be now looked at is the entire picture which now needs to come out.
04:40That's the reason why we are seeing all the agencies and the heads of all the agencies having a conversation, having meeting after meeting with Home Minister Amit Shah.
04:48And this is the reality.
04:49The police now, let me tell you, we are showing you these are the current visuals coming in from Red Fort of India, from ambulances to Delhi police to the fire brigade.
04:57Everything is now.
04:59They are now all prepared to make sure that something like this does not happen.
05:03The other crucial thing, Maria, that we understand will now happen is that the other states also have been put on high alert.
05:09And there is a reason why we are seeing the heads of all these, all of them sitting together, because the idea is to make sure that all of them work in tandem.
05:20They all work with focus.
05:21And the end goal should be very, very clear.
05:24Just connect all the dots.
05:25Bring the picture in front of the government and tell the government what exactly happened.
05:29If there were lapses, speak about the lapses so that these kind of lapses and these kind of instances do not occur anywhere else in our country.
05:36A very clear message coming in from the Home Ministry and from Home Minister Amit Shah.
05:40Maria.
05:41And the fact that it is the NIA, which is India's Federal Counterterrorism Police Agency, which will now be investigating this terror blast, becomes important.
05:54Remember, it was created after 2611 Mumbai terror attacks under the NIA Act of 2008, which came into force on 31st December 2008.
06:04NIA, what will be its role, will examine terror conspiracy under UAPA, identify masterminds, handlers and financing networks and coordinate with state, police and central agencies on interstate and cross-border links.
06:21Another piece of breaking news, which is coming in now.
06:23And suspect Umar Mohamed, who remained in that parking lot next to the Red Fort for three hours, Umar stayed inside the parking lot, is what now sources are saying, that entire time.
06:45And he did not get time even once to move out of it.
06:49He entered the parking lot roughly around 319 p.m. and left that spot at 648 p.m.
06:55And at 652 p.m. is when the blast happened.
06:58That is what the CCTV footage is revealing.
07:02And remember, in this entire area, which is a high security zone, there are multiple CCTV cameras which are monitored on a regular basis.
07:12And there is also a police chalky next to the Red Fort.
07:17So now we can tell our viewers, there was this question that whether Dr. Umar, who was there, who had parked his vehicle, that is the I-20 vehicle, inside that parking lot, did he step out?
07:32Was he waiting for some information?
07:33Was he waiting for one of his handlers to give him that instruction to go ahead with this suicide bombing?
07:40That is the big question.
07:42And now that is becoming clear that he stayed in that parking lot for all of three hours.
07:47Then he exited around 648 and the blast happened at 652.
07:51Let me bring in Shreya, who's joining us live.
07:53So, Shreya, you know, we are piecing together various details.
07:57And one of the details is that Dr. Umar, who entered Delhi from Haryana via the Badarpur border, is actually from 8 a.m. till 3 p.m.
08:08He is moving around Delhi. At 3.19, he parks himself in that parking lot.
08:14The question is, who chose that area for the blast?
08:17And is it becoming clear?
08:19And if he is there inside that parking lot, sitting in that car for three hours, what was he doing?
08:27Who was he speaking to?
08:28Those three hours was of a panic-stricken terrorist because he knew that there was a team of the Jammu and Kashmir police and the Faridabad police that was swooping down the entire region of Faridabad to arrest those absconding.
08:47Now, that is the reason we see Umar Mohamed, he takes that car, he drives past the Badarpur border at 8.13 as recorded on the CCTV toll plaza, subsequently towards the national capital.
09:00And because it was not something of the initial plan, but something to escape and arrest from, in a panic-stricken manner, he drives to the Chandni Chawks, Suneri Bagh Masjid parking, stays in port for three hours.
09:17What is right now also being a certain, Maria, is whether there was any attempt made by him to make any calls to any of his accomplices.
09:24What we do know that at least three of his accomplices was arrested by the Haryana police, the Faridabad police on Sunday itself that included the likes of Mozambil, Shaquille, that included the likes of Dr. Shaheen.
09:41So clearly, he was someone who was already in the state of panic, he was inside that parking lot, he comes out of the parking lot, detonates the car, leads to the loss of lives of nine individuals.
09:52But what is more important right now, that what are the kind of places that they actually wrecked?
09:57What were the initial spots that they had chosen? All these things are right now being looked at.
10:01So what we are seeing right now is a combing operation that the police in Delhi is also doing to trace back where, where did these people visit across the national capital?
10:12And if they had their handlers across the border to get information about, those are very crucial.
10:18Because clearly what we are learning, that there are orders directly from the Home Minister, that every individual needs to be traced down to the module and be brought to task.
10:29All right, Shreya, we'll keep continuing to coming back to you for more details, because let me tell you what we know so far.
10:37Remember, Delhi was jolted last evening.
10:39What seemed like a lone blast outside Delhi's Red Fort has now exploded into a chilling cross-country conspiracy.
10:48From Delhi to Pulwama, Faridabad to Lucknow, agencies are uncovering a web of terror woven by mines meant to heal, where doctors have turned destroyers.
11:02Investigators have uncovered a terror module led not by hardened militants, but by educated professionals in white coats.
11:10And at the center of it all is Dr. Muhammad Umar, the alleged suicide bomber who drove the I-20 that exploded near the Red Fort.
11:19He has a key link to the Faridabad jihadi module.
11:22His associate is Dr. Muzammil, who was employed at Al-Fala Hospital, allegedly acted as the conduit for explosives.
11:31So these are the various characters of this terror plot that we are looking at now.
11:37Another member is Dr. Adil Arathir, who was caught with an AK-47 exposing a hidden arm cachet near Delhi.
11:46And the network further deepens with Dr. Shaheen Shahid, whose swift car was found laden with explosives.
11:54She is now in custody and is under intense interrogation.
11:58Shaheen's brother, Dr. Parvez Ansari, remains on the run.
12:02He is being tracked by the UPATS and also by the Jameen Kashmir police.
12:07Dr. Sajad Ahmed Mala is another important character in this terror plot.
12:12A senior resident at Al-Fala and Malvi Ifan, a former paramedical staffer accused of radicalizing medical students, have all been detained.
12:23What is clear is that this is one plot with multiple terror faces.
12:30What is becoming clear is that there are several pieces and what is the nature of communication that they had.
12:37And it's also becoming clear that Dr. Umar, who actually blew off that vehicle, the I-20, was actually the one who panicked after he came to know that all his friends and those who were part of the larger conspiracy had been arrested.
12:58Munish is joining me.
12:59So, Munish, we are looking at six to seven doctors, paramedicals who have been involved in this conspiracy.
13:08When you say that NIA is investigating, they would be looking at, you know, coordinating with various states, Jameen Kashmir, Haryana police, UPATS, Delhi police special cell.
13:20Are they looking at this web perhaps expanding?
13:22Munish, absolutely, Maria, because the investigation has just begun.
13:32And when NIA took over the investigation, now they will be given all the evidence which was collected by the Delhi police as well as other agencies.
13:40But as far as this entire module is concerned, Maria, what is interesting here is that at least there are six to seven doctors who are in the net of investigative agencies, not only Dr. Umar Muhammad, but also there are others who by profession were doctors, but they were involved in terror activities.
14:01And that is why now it is a larger conspiracy which the NIA will be investigating.
14:07Maria, remember when IIM was very active, Indian Mujahideen was very active, or when Simi was very active, then there were so many engineers in those terror modules.
14:17We used to see that there were engineers by profession who used to actively work as a terrorist.
14:22But in this module, it seems like the strategy has shifted.
14:28And now doctors who are very well accepted by any society, people trust them blindly.
14:34And that is why in Faridabad, when they were not only conspiring to act against the country, but also they were involved in transporting the explosives,
14:46they were very, you know, easily able to hide their network and only after they were raided yesterday by the Jammu and Kashmir police, this module was busted.
14:57So it is going to be a large conspiracy, which has to be unfolded by the national investigative agencies.
15:04There are indications that JASH might be behind these terror activities, but now NIA will investigate, they will find out which terror group was behind these terror activities.
15:16But you rightly pointed out, you know, this module is something which is going to unravel the strategy of the terrorists in the modern era.
15:26Absolutely. This is the white collar terror plot as is being called now.
15:32Munish continue to be with us. Let's take a look at who are these various characters.
15:38Some of them have been arrested. The identity of a number of them is still unknown.
15:44The UPATS is trying to track them. The Jammu and Kashmir police is also conducting parallel raids even as we speak.
15:50So let's take a look, a closer look, I would say, on how this white collar terror plot actually unfolded.
16:02A massive explosion outside Delhi's Red Fort.
16:10And now a chilling terror web unraveling across cities.
16:15Delhi, Pulwama, Faridabad and Lucknow.
16:17What began as a blast in the capital is now linked to a major alms hall in Faridabad.
16:24Investigators had recovered 2,900 kg of explosive material, including 300 kilos of ammonium nitrate, rifles, pistols and ammunition from Dr. Muzammir's house on Monday.
16:37And then the police on Tuesday launched massive raids on persons and organizations connected to Dr. Muhammad Umar, the alleged bomber.
16:51The focus of the probe has returned to Faridabad at the very Alfala University where another accused, Dr. Muzammir, was employed.
16:59The operation did not stop there.
17:03A police team moved to Lucknow, tracking absconding Dr. Parvez Ansari.
17:08The doctor was on the morning and the doctor was on the morning.
17:09The doctor was on the morning.
17:10The doctor was on the morning.
17:11So what was the doctor here?
17:12Did you get the information from him from the people?
17:13No, he didn't ask us.
17:14He asked us, he asked us about the operation when he got in the hospital.
17:17We said that we didn't leave.
17:18We have the first two days.
17:20I mean, if someone saw the doctor ask him, he asked him, he asked him, he asked him why he didn't see him.
17:24He just came and went and saw him.
17:26He said, no, we have no idea what he was doing.
17:29There was no idea when someone talked to us about this.
17:31He never seen someone talking about Dr. Parvez or saying anything.
17:34At his home, police found a card with an integral university pass registered to Saharanpur RTO.
18:04And as the layers peeled back, a massive terror network involving doctors unraveled.
18:32Dr. Adil Ahmed Rater and Dr. Muzammil both arrested from Al-Fala University on Monday.
18:40Dr. Shaheen Shahid, another associate of Muzammil, held on Tuesday.
18:45She is accused of forming the women's wing of the Jaisya Muhammad.
18:49Dr. Parveiz Ansari, who still is absconding and was a professor at Integral University in Lucknow.
18:56Dr. Muhammad Umar, the alleged mastermind behind the attack.
18:59According to investigators, when Faridabad module was busted, Umar panicked and fearing arrest,
19:06he planted the explosives himself, ending his life in a suicide attack.
19:11From classrooms to covert terror cells, five doctors, one deadly plot.
19:19The Red Fort blast may have shaken Delhi,
19:22but it has also exposed a network that's now under the scanner across states.
19:27Bureau Report, India Today.
19:31And I'm going to go straight to Preeti Chaudhary,
19:34who's joining me from Ground Zero next to Red Fort, the site of the blast.
19:38Preeti, it's almost 24 hours since the blast took place.
19:42What are you seeing right now?
19:44Yesterday and through the day, we have been seeing multiple agencies,
19:48their officials arrive to collect any evidence that they could gather.
19:52Well, Maria, you know, one thing is now clear,
19:58even though there has been no official declaration of the fact that the case has been handed over to the NIA,
20:04that in effect means that it is being treated as a counter-terror operation.
20:08What I can also tell you with through the course of the last 15 to 18 hours,
20:13combing operations have been on right behind me, is the Red Fort area.
20:17This entire area has been practically shut down.
20:20So has Chandi Chauk, the Red Fort metro station has been shut down.
20:25Behind me, if you can see those white scaffolding, tents, makeshift tents have been put in.
20:30And early this morning, a lot of equipment for analysis was actually got in.
20:35And the forensic team, the NIA, various segments of investigating agencies are combing this area
20:43for any possible piece of evidence which has been duly analyzed right behind me in these tents.
20:49And at the back of that, you know, it's source-based information right now that was established
20:54that the explosive material that was used was indeed ammonium nitrate
20:59and it was mixed with a certain amount of fuel as well as a detonator.
21:04So that was established by, you know, the tests that have been conducted
21:09at the back of these makeshift tents.
21:11So in terms of the agencies, we've seen the meeting with the Home Minister, Maria,
21:17and I think for someone who also tracks the government,
21:20all eyes will be tomorrow on the CCS meeting chaired by the Prime Minister at 5.30 p.m.
21:26to further identify what will be the course of action.
21:30Because, Maria, after Operation Sindhu, one thing the Prime Minister had said very clearly,
21:36where not just proverbial, but he had drawn that line in the sand where terror was concerned
21:41that any act of terror is an act of war, that terrorists from now on coming in from across
21:46the border will not be distinguished between the state.
21:50So what action will India take?
21:53Till now, of course, you know, there is no direct link where Pakistan is concerned.
21:59But if you join the dots, Maria, and you start off right with Omar Mohamad,
22:03Dr. Omar Mohamad, the suicide bomber, the car that he took, where the car was sourced from,
22:09which links itself to the terror module, the white-collar terror module of run by doctors,
22:15which was busted yesterday morning, with the footprint of the Jaish-e-Mohamad.
22:20Now, the Jaish-e-Mohamad licks itself to Bahawalpur, Pakistan.
22:24So ultimately, if you join the dots, understandably, the footprint is Pakistan.
22:30How will India deal with it, Maria?
22:32You cover the government very closely, and I would think this is going to be a tough call from here on.
22:37Absolutely.
22:39Preeti, really appreciate your time.
22:40Thank you for joining us from Ground Zero near Red Fort.
22:44Let me bring in the guests now.
22:46Sanjay Sahai is former IPS officer.
22:48We have Lieutenant General Dylan joining us as well.
22:51We also have Shashi Khan, former DGP of Punjab.
22:54Lieutenant General Dylan, your thoughts in terms of 24 hours since the blast?
23:00Of course, the details are trickling in.
23:03NIA has taken over the investigation.
23:04There are a number of unanswered questions, even as the NIA pieces together what all happened.
23:12One thing is becoming clear that this is a sinister plot.
23:17Good evening, Maria, and good evening to the fellow panelists and viewers.
23:20Yes, it is clearly a case which has now been established.
23:25The linkages to Kashmir and Jaish-e-Mohamad are well established.
23:29And more importantly, what was captured from Fridabad,
23:33in addition to the 2,900 or kgs of ammonium nitrate,
23:38there were 20 detonators and 24 remote control units.
23:43That means there is a possibility of making 20 separate bombs.
23:49And which could be, and this one which exploded yesterday near Red Fort was about one of them.
23:54So there is every possibility of more such bombs or car bombs or otherwise available,
24:01which are still out in the field and not yet been captured by the security forces.
24:07That is one.
24:08So citizens have to be very, very careful.
24:10The agencies are doing their job.
24:12Secondly, when there is more than one state police involved and more than one directorate involved,
24:16it is very important that the National Investigating Agency,
24:20which is basically a very professional agency which deals with the counter-terror oppressions and investigation,
24:26that takes on the investigation.
24:28And I think that is what has been done so that everything is controlled centrally and analyzed centrally.
24:33And once I will again request through your channel,
24:38all the people, all the citizens who are giving out their property on rent,
24:43please don't go by this,
24:44doctor-sahib hai, achha admi hai, sharif admi hai, padha likha hai, achi family hai, nothing doing.
24:50Please get the verification done by the police.
24:52All their characteristics must be checked properly.
24:55And your property which has been rented out,
24:58you should be very clear who is coming in, who is going out.
25:00If it is being used only as a store and someone is just coming and dumping some boxes
25:05and you don't even know what that person is using these boxes for,
25:09you've got to be careful, you have to inform the police.
25:12So, alert citizen is a citizen without the uniform or the soldier without the uniform
25:17and everyone has to contribute for the national security.
25:21So, these are a few opening thoughts we can carry forward.
25:24Yes, sure.
25:24Let me take the opening comments also from Sanjay Sahai.
25:27Yeah, see, primarily the shifting of the whole focus from primarily technicians, technologists
25:35who were heading most of these modules earlier to doctors,
25:39that has been the game changer.
25:41Because that's precisely where I think most of the stuff has actually been carried.
25:46And these doctors, if you feel that these four or five doctors
25:49have been critical in establishing this whole terror module
25:52and bringing it to execution, I don't think that will be the total story.
25:57There's a whole logistics behind 2900 kgs of explosive which is carried
26:02and timers and variety of other things.
26:05And there can also be a situation wherein large number of cash has still not been recovered.
26:10So, what is of critical importance is to first to get the sourcing of the whole thing
26:15and how it was detonated.
26:17I think the actual detonation is still not known.
26:20So, how it was detonated plus the radicalization part.
26:24See, where we are failing is the radicalization part.
26:27While the action is being taken and in this particular instance also,
26:31I think in nearly 24 hours since the blast was slightly even less than that,
26:36we have been able to piece most of the things together
26:39as for how this complex module has taken place.
26:42But the crux of the matter is when we feel that terrorism is at its low,
26:48the radicalization operates and it comes out in a much more sinister fashion.
26:53So, all these things have been happening in and around Delhi
26:56and Jammu Kashmir has been basically at the center of it.
27:01This whole movement not coming in the radar of the intelligence agencies
27:05and also the local law enforcement agencies,
27:09I think we need to give it a thought.
27:11What is required immediately is even faster, more expeditious investigations
27:17so that we don't miss out on anything
27:19and so that we don't land up into another situation of this nature.
27:23There might be another doctor rumor who would be running away for his life.
27:27So, that situation can also come.
27:29Other important factor is how much we are basing ourselves…
27:33But Sanjay Sai, a thought here before I bring in Shashi Kanji,
27:37my question is that I was also reporting from the site of the blast,
27:41there is no crater and there is no black suit.
27:45These were scenes or signs associated with some kind of terror activities.
27:49That's not the case because it has to do with a particular kind of explosive.
27:54See, that was the conventional mode.
27:56The way they have been moving from engineers to doctors,
27:59as far as the detonating and the explosive is concerned,
28:03they have to move further.
28:05And see, ammonium nitrate, what sort of an explosion can it create?
28:10I don't know, even best of the people available in this country
28:14can exactly pinpoint to the nature of the impact,
28:17nature of the explosion,
28:19and what will be the remnants by which you can piece together
28:22and confidently and substantiate that this has been ammonium nitrate.
28:27I presume that the connect between the Faridabad ammonium nitrate
28:31and ammonium nitrate which went into flames at the blast site
28:36have been from the same source or from the same warehouse
28:40or the same storage place.
28:42Ammonium nitrate, if I remember clearly,
28:45this sort of a flare-up or explosion,
28:49accidentally happened in Berude also.
28:51And it put large parts of the city onto flames.
28:54It was in the year 2020.
28:55So, the exact nature of this particular chemical as an explosive
29:00and the capability to kill people or main people,
29:04I think that clarity was not existing with most of the people
29:08who have been trained into this, who are delivering this,
29:11and that is where this whole conventional thought process
29:14of IED, Sharpenel, Crater, and all these things came into existence.
29:20That is the way we think.
29:21But certainly, it has moved forward.
29:23I think it has been conclusively proved
29:25that these are the major personas of this whole exercise,
29:29at least on the face of it.
29:30There is a huge ecosystem operating from behind.
29:33So, that is a different story altogether.
29:35We are not getting into it as of now.
29:37But the point is,
29:38ammonium nitrate as an explosive,
29:42and the way it is being...
29:43And we are not sure of the fact
29:45whether this fellow was scared or whatever.
29:48Or it was a part of their plan
29:50that in case we land up in this situation,
29:53we create a terror attack,
29:54and that will help us escape.
29:56That will help us escape.
29:57Yes.
29:58So, perhaps Shashi Kanji will be able to answer that.
30:00Mr. Kanji, what is being said is,
30:03and that's, of course, by the sources
30:05who are telling reporters some details,
30:08sharing some details,
30:09they say that Dr. Umar's reaction
30:12was more of panic,
30:16that most of his friends had been detained
30:19and arrested by the cops
30:20because of this entire anti-terror plot
30:22which had been unraveled
30:24from Jamin Kashmir police
30:25to Haryana police working in complete coordination.
30:28He did not know what to do.
30:30He spent three hours in that parking lot.
30:33And thereafter, he leaves the parking lot
30:35at 6.48 p.m.
30:37And then the blast goes off.
30:41It happens at 6.52.
30:44Yeah, well, I think as of date,
30:46it's difficult to say what exactly happened,
30:48why he left the place.
30:50But the conjecture or the theories
30:52that exist as of date are that
30:55once the police raided the Afridharabad place
30:57where all these things were kept,
30:59possibly, again, who knows,
31:01it's a matter of some investigation,
31:04that he left that place, ran away.
31:07But yes, he ran away.
31:08He might have been panicky,
31:09but again, not totally panicky
31:11because when he left that place,
31:13first he went to a nearby gas station,
31:16got his car's pollution test done.
31:20Maybe he feared that if he gets into Delhi
31:22and there's some smoke,
31:24everything out of that exhaust pipe,
31:26he might be checked in something.
31:28But that means it was not really
31:30totally panic reaction
31:31because he was taking these things,
31:34he was acting very poorly,
31:36getting his car's pollution test done
31:38and all those things.
31:40Secondly, I think again,
31:41in the field of conjectures,
31:43he went to the parking lot,
31:44he spent three hours there.
31:46Possibly he was trying to either,
31:48trying to contact his handlers in Pakistan
31:50or wherever they are,
31:51or maybe he was trying to just ponder
31:53over what to do.
31:54Look, even a suicide bomber,
31:57when he's going to do something,
31:59they just sit and they're panicky inside,
32:02certainly, because this amounts
32:04to they're going to end their lives.
32:06Even you look at the case here in Punjab
32:09that it happened to that Ben Singh murder case,
32:11there's one thing who blew himself
32:13with a suicide bomber who killed Ben Singh.
32:16He had also taken time
32:18trying to restore his nose
32:20and then he went,
32:22see him came out
32:23and he went there
32:24and blasted himself.
32:25Possible.
32:26I know these are all theories
32:27and all of us have to think about it.
32:30But again,
32:31the most important things
32:32I think which come out
32:33is number one,
32:35the use of the guys in white coats.
32:37Nobody could have suspected
32:39it is a new thing.
32:40Second, once again,
32:41we have the theory
32:43or this particular incident
32:44that the suicide bombers
32:46still do exist.
32:48Maybe they try to think about it
32:50in a so-called cool fashion
32:51and they try to indulge in this thing.
32:54Number three,
32:54about the crater theory,
32:56which is there.
32:56Of course,
32:57forensics will tell
32:58what kind of explosive were used.
33:00But again,
33:00whether there was a crater or not,
33:02it depends on the line of impact.
33:04Where exactly it was kept.
33:06If it was kept too close to the ground,
33:08then certainly there will be
33:10some crater or some kind of marks
33:11on the ground or on the road,
33:12but it was kept slightly higher,
33:14the line of impact
33:15will be different.
33:17So there are so many
33:18different kinds of things.
33:19But again,
33:20lastly,
33:20I'll say,
33:21it all points out
33:22since the lady
33:22who has been arrested,
33:24Shaheen,
33:25she was heading
33:26the Jashwain's
33:27lady's wing.
33:30So certainly that means
33:31that this kind of person
33:32and who was recruited
33:34by this woman,
33:35certainly they have
33:36the potential
33:37of indulging
33:38into one thing
33:38or the other.
33:39Last point.
33:402,900 kgs.
33:43What does it mean?
33:44Does it mean that they would find...
33:45Just hold on to your thoughts
33:47because there's a piece
33:48of breaking news
33:48coming in now.
33:49Please,
33:50I would request
33:50all the panelists
33:51to stay with us
33:51because there is a new twist
33:53in this Delhi blast probe.
33:55Sources are saying
33:56that all suspects
33:57are senior doctors
33:58from Al-Fala University.
34:01So that is the basis.
34:03It is the university
34:04through which
34:05all of them
34:05are connected.
34:07Their education
34:08that binds them all together.
34:09six junior doctors
34:11have now been detained
34:12from Al-Fala University.
34:14Sources are saying
34:14that 40% of Al-Fala University
34:17doctors are from Kashmir.
34:19Remember,
34:20in 2019,
34:22the Al-Fala University
34:23had introduced
34:24the MBBS course.
34:26So,
34:28Anmol is joining us live.
34:30So,
34:30Anmol,
34:31it's becoming clear now.
34:32It is the university
34:34which perhaps
34:35bound them all together.
34:37their education
34:38is from the same university
34:40that is
34:40Al-Fala University.
34:46Maria,
34:46this is very shocking
34:47that every dot
34:48is connecting
34:49with the Al-Fala University.
34:51If you talk about
34:52all the doctors,
34:53those who are named
34:54in this act of blast
34:55are from Al-Fala University.
34:57But we are being told
34:58by our sources,
34:59one of the doctor
34:59we have talked with
35:00from inside the university
35:02has told us that
35:03all the three doctors,
35:05Shaheen,
35:06Umar,
35:06and the other doctors
35:08from whose home
35:09the Chachi
35:09of around
35:102,900 kgs
35:12of explosive
35:13was seized
35:13by the agencies.
35:14They are all
35:15serial doctors
35:15and around six doctors
35:17have been detained
35:17by the agencies
35:18like Delhi Crime Branch
35:20and Faridabad
35:21local police
35:21and local agencies
35:22are currently
35:23inside the campus.
35:24They are talking
35:24with the administration.
35:25They are talking
35:26with the other people.
35:27Around 52 people
35:28have been interrogated
35:30by the agencies.
35:31they have talked
35:31with the vice chancellor
35:32from the hospital administration
35:33and the other people
35:34those who are related
35:35to Umar
35:36and the other resident doctors
35:38those who are related
35:39to accused
35:40in this blast case.
35:41So six people
35:42have been detained
35:43by the police.
35:44They are being questioned
35:45by the police
35:46on this and crime branch
35:48team is inside.
35:49In the morning
35:49it was seen
35:49that heavy police force
35:51crime branch team
35:52went inside
35:53in the campus
35:54and still they are inside
35:55they are interrogating
35:57the people
35:58those who are detained
35:59and even they are also
36:00looking at the CCTV
36:01image
36:01and they are trying
36:02to establish the case
36:03they are trying
36:04to establish
36:04they are connecting
36:05dot by dot
36:06to know what happened
36:07and what could have
36:08conspired
36:09if they haven't
36:10averted
36:11yesterday's seizure.
36:13Okay so Anmol
36:14they are reporting
36:14from outside
36:15Alphala University
36:16in Faridabad.
36:18The MBBS course
36:19started in 2019
36:20which essentially
36:21means that these
36:22are doctors
36:23who would have
36:25exited from
36:25that university
36:27only a few months
36:28or perhaps
36:28a couple of years ago
36:29and in that period
36:31it's where
36:32they got radicalized
36:33and also stayed in touch
36:34after their education
36:35at Alphala University.
36:37Joining
36:37let's get us
36:38more news
36:39now which is coming in
36:40and this is
36:40with regards
36:41to the investigation
36:42the Delhi police
36:43has now submitted
36:43a preliminary report
36:45on the Chandani Chowk
36:46blast to the MHA
36:47which is of course
36:49the Redford blast
36:50the report details
36:53the sequence of events
36:54leading to the explosion
36:55in the I-20 car
36:56and outlines the coordination
36:58between Delhi Haryana
37:00and Jammu and Kashmir police
37:02during the investigation
37:03so it's a multi-agency
37:05multi-state probe
37:06and now the Delhi police
37:08having submitted
37:09its report
37:11to the Ministry
37:12of Home Affairs
37:13even as we speak
37:14the Home Minister
37:15is chairing that
37:15crucial meeting
37:16Shreya is joining us live
37:17Shreya give us the details
37:18Well Maria
37:23right now
37:24what we're learning
37:24is that the Delhi police
37:25has actually submitted
37:27a preliminary report
37:28to the MHA
37:29this is a part
37:31of the investigation process
37:32whenever such
37:33serious incident
37:35takes place
37:35and that too
37:36is the nature
37:37of a blast
37:37a preliminary report
37:39has to be submitted
37:39to its home body
37:41which is the Ministry
37:42of Home Affairs
37:43in that report
37:44it very well details
37:45the sequence of events
37:47of how that I-20 car
37:48detonated
37:49carrying out the blast
37:50so from
37:51where did that car
37:52emerge
37:52the entire area
37:54in the National Capital
37:55it toured
37:55everything along
37:56with the details
37:57of the CCTV
37:58where else was it spotted
38:00all of that
38:01have been mentioned
38:02in the preliminary report
38:04along with that
38:05what we're also saying
38:06being told
38:07that how was there
38:08a coordination
38:09between the Haryana police
38:10and the Jammu and Kashmir police
38:12along with Delhi police
38:13because remember
38:13there was also
38:14a simultaneous operation
38:15that was under its way
38:16there were raids
38:17that were being carried out
38:18to nab
38:19Muhammad Umar
38:21in the first place
38:21so how was that
38:22coordination happening
38:23all those details
38:25have been mentioned
38:26to the MHA
38:27right now
38:27and this is
38:28at a juncture
38:29where MHA
38:30has transferred
38:31the blast investigation
38:33to the National Investigative Agency
38:35the main body
38:36for investigating
38:37terror cases
38:38and we will be seeing
38:39in the process
38:40of another day
38:40from the Delhi police
38:42the investigation
38:43will be handed over
38:44to the NIA
38:45alright Shreya
38:48a word now
38:49from Lieutenant General Dhillon
38:50who will be
38:51exiting this broadcast
38:53shortly
38:53so when we are
38:54talking about
38:55radicalization
38:56Lieutenant General Dhillon
38:57it's becoming clear
38:58it is the university
38:59where all of them
39:01got radicalized
39:02and then they stayed
39:03in touch as well
39:04post completing
39:05their education
39:06yeah absolutely
39:08there are various
39:10places where
39:11the young children
39:11and even the teenager
39:13and beyond
39:13get radicalized
39:14to start with
39:15madrassas
39:16then small
39:17pickpocketers
39:18in the jails
39:18and then of course
39:19the professional colleges
39:21and universities
39:21as is the case
39:22in this particular case
39:24so all this
39:25radicalization
39:26is done
39:26in a very very
39:27professional manner
39:28by the handlers
39:29in Pakistan
39:30in this university
39:31now when the NIA
39:33probes it further
39:33you will find out
39:34their faculty
39:35in this university
39:36which is doing
39:37all this dirty work
39:38their professors
39:39and their senior professors
39:41who would be
39:42involved in all this
39:43so this will come out
39:44slowly and slowly
39:45and I just want to
39:47bring out a point
39:47about a question
39:48which you asked
39:49the other panelists
39:49about the crater
39:50see it's not necessary
39:53that every explosion
39:54or every IED blast
39:56creates a crater
39:57on the ground
39:58the crater
40:00depends on
40:01where the detonator
40:02is placed
40:03in that
40:03say there is
40:04the package
40:06of explosive
40:06if the detonator
40:08is placed
40:08on the top
40:09that the detonation
40:10happens from here
40:11the vibrations
40:12go down like this
40:13then the impact
40:14on the ground
40:15is more
40:15and the crater
40:16is created
40:16in case the detonator
40:18is placed
40:19at the bottom
40:19of that box
40:20of explosive
40:21the shock waves
40:23will go upwards
40:24and sideways
40:24then there are
40:25less chances
40:26of crater
40:27being cratered
40:27and if there is
40:28a chassis
40:28and a vehicle
40:29underneath
40:30all the more
40:31less chances
40:32of a crater
40:33but of course
40:34the experts
40:35the forensics
40:36and the NIA
40:36will go more
40:37into details
40:38of this
40:38what is more
40:39thing in this
40:42particular case
40:42is there are
40:43no sharp nails
40:44or there are
40:44no splinters
40:45generally when
40:47IEDs may be made
40:48an explosive
40:49is there
40:50a detonator
40:51is there
40:51and thereafter
40:52they pack it up
40:53with a lot of
40:54scrap and sharp nails
40:56at times
40:57they even use
40:58nuts and bolts
40:58so that when
41:00the explosion
41:00takes place
41:01all these
41:02nuts and bolts
41:02and metal pieces
41:03they fly
41:05in all directions
41:05acting as
41:07sharp nails
41:08or splinters
41:09to cause
41:10the maximum
41:11casualties
41:11of the people
41:12nearby
41:13so that has
41:14not happened
41:15in this case
41:15and the crater
41:17theory I have
41:17given my point
41:18of view
41:18but NIA
41:19will give out
41:20the more details
41:20alright
41:21thank you for
41:22joining us
41:23left and general
41:23Dylan
41:24in fact
41:24another piece
41:25of breaking
41:25news coming
41:26in now
41:26the UPATS
41:27and Jamin Kashmir
41:28police
41:28have seized
41:29Dr. Shaheen's
41:31father
41:31Syed Ansari's
41:33phone
41:33and hard disk
41:34from his
41:35house
41:36in fact
41:37Samarth is
41:38joining me
41:39from Lucknow
41:40Samarth
41:41where
41:42are her parents
41:44I mean
41:44when we say
41:45that their
41:46hard disk
41:47and phone
41:48has been seized
41:49when and
41:50where did it
41:50happen
41:51well Maria
41:56I must tell you
41:56that the
41:57investigation
41:57the investigation
41:59started
42:00from the morning
42:01in the
42:01near the
42:02Mariyaho area
42:02but later on
42:03in afternoon
42:04from 3.30pm
42:05to 4.30pm
42:06that is for
42:07one hour
42:07interrogation
42:08happened
42:09with
42:09Saeed Ansari
42:10who is Saeed Ansari
42:10Saeed Ansari
42:11is father
42:12of Shaheen
42:13and
42:13Parvez
42:15that means
42:15Parvez
42:16and Shaheen
42:16both are
42:17brother and sister
42:17and we are
42:18present at the
42:18locality
42:19where that
42:19particular
42:20inspection
42:21the interrogation
42:22happened
42:22by the
42:22UPATS
42:23and the
42:23Jammu
42:24Kashmir
42:24police
42:24and this
42:25is that
42:25particular
42:25location
42:26as you
42:26see
42:27in the
42:27visuals
42:27clearly
42:28this
42:28particular
42:28narrow lane
42:29leads to
42:30the house
42:31of
42:31Saeed Ansari
42:32who is
42:34inside
42:34because he
42:35hasn't been
42:35detained yet
42:36but it's worth
42:37mentioning here
42:37that a
42:38mobile phone
42:39and a
42:40hard disk
42:41has been
42:42collected
42:43from this
42:43particular area
42:44has been
42:44seized
42:44from this
42:45particular
42:45location
42:46because
42:47police
42:47did not
42:48want
42:48Saeed Ansari
42:49to further
42:49contact
42:50that
42:51Parvez
42:51because
42:52Parvez
42:52is still
42:52on the
42:53run
42:53he hasn't
42:53been
42:54arrested
42:54or
42:54detained
42:55while
42:55that
42:56particular
42:56lady
42:57has
42:57been
42:57arrested
42:57from
42:58Faridabad
42:58and that's
42:59why this
42:59particular
43:00investigation
43:01and interrogation
43:01is happening
43:02and that is
43:02why
43:03Jammu
43:03Kashmir
43:03police
43:04had to
43:04visit
43:04Lucknow
43:05for further
43:05investigation
43:06because
43:06these two
43:07are
43:07very important
43:08points
43:09in this
43:09particular
43:09story
43:10both
43:10have
43:11a
43:11medical
43:11background
43:11which
43:12is
43:12also
43:12linked
43:13to
43:13those
43:13three
43:14terrorists
43:14who
43:14were
43:14in a
43:15way
43:15arrested
43:15from
43:16different
43:16locations
43:17who
43:17had
43:17links
43:17to
43:18the
43:18obviously
43:18they
43:18studied
43:18from
43:19China
43:19and
43:19the
43:20MBBS
43:20while
43:21on the
43:21other
43:21hand
43:21these
43:22two
43:22that
43:23lady
43:24and
43:25that
43:25Parvez
43:26both
43:26have
43:27got
43:27the
43:27medical
43:27background
43:28and
43:28they
43:28also
43:29had
43:29some
43:29intentions
43:29and
43:30had
43:30clear
43:30relations
43:31with
43:32those
43:32particular
43:32terrorists
43:33who
43:33have
43:33been
43:33arrested
43:33by
43:34the
43:34Gujarat
43:34ATS
43:35and
43:35Delhi
43:35police
43:35from
43:36there
43:36back
43:36to
43:37you
43:37all
43:37right
43:38Samarth
43:38appreciate
43:38your
43:39time
43:39and
43:40a
43:40massive
43:40explosion
43:41which
43:41rocked
43:41the
43:42Red
43:42Fort
43:42area
43:43and
43:43the
43:43nation
43:43is
43:44on
43:44edge
43:44Prime
43:45Minister
43:45Narendra
43:45Modi
43:46has
43:46said
43:46that
43:46he
43:47will
43:47get
43:47to
43:47the
43:48root
43:48of
43:48the
43:48conspiracy
43:48Home
43:49Minister
43:50Amit
43:50Shah
43:50has
43:51been
43:51chairing
43:52several
43:52meetings
43:53high
43:53security
43:54level
43:54meetings
43:55of
43:55various
43:56agencies
43:56back
43:57to
43:57back
43:57the
43:57defence
43:58minister
43:58has
43:58also
43:58issued
43:59a
43:59sharp
44:00and stern
44:01warning
44:01as well
44:02saying
44:03that
44:03the
44:03perpetrators
44:04will
44:04face
44:04the
44:05harshest
44:06retribution
44:06take
44:07a look
44:07at
44:11nation
44:11stands
44:11united
44:12and
44:12the
44:12probe
44:12intensifies
44:14a
44:19massive
44:19explosion
44:20in the
44:20heart
44:20of
44:21old
44:21Delhi
44:21has
44:21shaken
44:22the
44:22nation
44:22to
44:23its
44:23core
44:23Prime
44:26Minister
44:26Narendra
44:26Modi
44:27in
44:27Bhutan
44:27sent
44:28out
44:28a
44:28strong
44:28message
44:29of
44:29resolve
44:29and
44:30vowed
44:30that
44:30those
44:31responsible
44:31will
44:32be
44:32brought
44:32to
44:32justice
44:33all
44:56those
44:56responsible
44:57will
45:00be
45:00brought
45:01to
45:01justice
45:02back
45:11home
45:12Home
45:12Minister
45:12Amit
45:13Shah
45:13convened
45:13a
45:13high
45:14level
45:14security
45:14meeting
45:15that
45:15brought
45:15together
45:16the
45:16country's
45:16top
45:17officials
45:17from
45:18the
45:18Home
45:18Secretary
45:18and
45:19IB
45:19chief
45:20to
45:20the
45:20Delhi
45:20police
45:20commissioner
45:21NIA
45:22and
45:22NSG
45:23heads
45:23and
45:24Jammu
45:24Kashmir's
45:24DGP
45:25via
45:25video
45:26link
45:26underscoring
45:27the
45:27gravity
45:27of
45:28the
45:28attack
45:28on
45:30Monday
45:30night
45:31Amit
45:31Shah
45:31visited
45:32the
45:32explosion
45:32site
45:33near
45:33the
45:33red
45:33fort
45:34and
45:34Meddi
45:34injured
45:35at
45:35Lok
45:35Nayak
45:35hospital
45:36pledging
45:37a thorough
45:37investigation
45:38into
45:38the blast
45:38that
45:39claimed
45:39several
45:39lives
45:40and
45:40left
45:40over
45:41a dozen
45:41voters
45:42voters
45:42voted
45:42from
45:45sub
45:46some
45:47bow
45:47now
45:47quarter
45:48as
45:48rain
45:48or
45:49sub
45:50peace
45:50and
45:50bow
45:50now
45:50code
45:51and
45:51may
45:51look
45:52girl
45:52is
45:53key
45:53can
45:53judge
45:54he
45:54jay
45:54Defense Minister Rajnath Singh warned that those behind the attack will face the harshest punishment,
46:11reaffirming India's commitment to protect its people and stand firm against terror.
46:24The nation stands united, vigilant and resolute, sending a clear message, India will not bow to terror.
46:49With Aishwarya Paliwal and Jitendra Bahadur in Delhi, Bureau Report, India Today.
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