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UK Budget: Income Tax Rise Needs to Be a One-off, Cain's Goldstein Says
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You're also a labor donor, so what would you expect in that budget come November 26?
00:06
Well, I think there's been a long build-up to this budget,
00:09
and I think the three things that I think the country needs to see
00:13
are certainty, confidence, and competitiveness.
00:17
So I think we need to get over this period.
00:19
There's clearly in the economy, in the industry, across many industries,
00:23
there's been a hiatus.
00:25
People are waiting to see what's happening, waiting to hear.
00:27
There's a huge amount of balloons being floated around in the press
00:31
about so many different taxes, so many different spendings and cuts and investments.
00:36
So I think this build-up has really been a long one.
00:40
So I think what the country really needs is certainty.
00:43
We need to get back to it, absolutely knowing the direction of travel.
00:47
We need to understand what drives the economy.
00:50
We need to make sure that those aspects are enforced,
00:53
and we need to retain a level of confidence.
00:56
This is a great country.
00:57
With a huge amount of assets, and we really need to be playing to them.
01:01
So first of all, how much was the abolition of the non-DOM regime damaging
01:04
to entrepreneurship, to wealthy investors leaving the country?
01:11
Well, you've seen around the world a flight of millionaires
01:14
to the UAE, to Italy, to the US, at the expense of London.
01:21
And if you look at the top end of the London residential market,
01:23
you'll find it's very sluggish, very, very, very, very slow.
01:27
And the reality is that we live in a very mobile world.
01:30
Our ability to move around the world today is unparalleled.
01:34
And as a result, we need to understand our relative place in that competitiveness,
01:39
you know, area, is hugely important.
01:42
And we can't sort of think that we're an island,
01:45
that people are just going to come to whatever,
01:47
because people can up and go.
01:48
And we're seeing too many stories of founders of companies
01:51
upping and going and leaving this country.
01:53
And that has a significant impact on productivity,
01:56
and that eats into confidence in the country.
01:59
So I know you want certainty, you want to basically the budget to happen now
02:04
so that people can, you know, adapt and get on with their business.
02:07
But what do you want to see in the upcoming autumn statement?
02:09
Well, ultimately, I think we all understand that the Chancellor needs to raise revenue.
02:15
We need to feel, unlike last year, that this is a one-off,
02:19
that there is a line drawn under that process.
02:21
And if that has to be, as is clearly being floated,
02:23
a small rise in income tax and a break in what was said in the manifesto,
02:28
I think the government has to be bold and the government has to go for it.
02:31
I don't think that anybody in this country really believes
02:34
that people have to be hidebound statements,
02:36
we're not in business, that we made two or three years ago.
02:39
I think it's obviously politically uncomfortable,
02:41
but it's an important decision to make.
02:43
And the second thing I would say is that we need to play to innovation.
02:47
We need to make this country a place that people want to do business in
02:51
and come and live in.
02:52
If you look at the founder of NVIDIA, he moved from Taiwan to the US.
02:56
He's created a company which is valued at almost $5 trillion.
03:00
You want to come to the UK or anywhere in Europe,
03:02
you have to fill in forms, you have to wait months and months and months.
03:05
We are creating an environment that people don't want to come to.
03:09
And I think we need to get away from that.
03:11
We need to understand that the benefits of immigration are strong for this country
03:16
and that we are in a global fight for talent.
03:19
And we need to win that.
03:21
We need to win our fair share of that.
03:23
And at the moment, I don't think we are.
03:24
Jonathan, is it about the taxes?
03:26
Is it about the money?
03:27
Or is it about people not feeling welcome?
03:29
I think it's about the environment myself.
03:32
I think, yes, taxes are an element of that.
03:34
But I don't think everybody is so obsessed with the odd P and the pound to worry about that.
03:38
I think we need to create an environment of both a business and a social perspective.
03:42
This country becomes a welcoming country again.
03:45
And I think that is a route that the prime minister really believes and goes in at his very core.
03:50
And I think we need to make sure that we as a country are seen as a welcoming country.
03:54
Many of us, for generations, are the beneficiaries of this wonderful country.
03:59
And we need to make sure that that is a continuing narrative.
04:02
And I'm concerned that we're seeing too much of this negativity,
04:06
too much of this downing on Britain,
04:09
which is, I think, creating a message around the world
04:12
that we're no longer a welcoming environment.
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