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00:00You're also a labor donor, so what would you expect in that budget come November 26?
00:06Well, I think there's been a long build-up to this budget,
00:09and I think the three things that I think the country needs to see
00:13are certainty, confidence, and competitiveness.
00:17So I think we need to get over this period.
00:19There's clearly in the economy, in the industry, across many industries,
00:23there's been a hiatus.
00:25People are waiting to see what's happening, waiting to hear.
00:27There's a huge amount of balloons being floated around in the press
00:31about so many different taxes, so many different spendings and cuts and investments.
00:36So I think this build-up has really been a long one.
00:40So I think what the country really needs is certainty.
00:43We need to get back to it, absolutely knowing the direction of travel.
00:47We need to understand what drives the economy.
00:50We need to make sure that those aspects are enforced,
00:53and we need to retain a level of confidence.
00:56This is a great country.
00:57With a huge amount of assets, and we really need to be playing to them.
01:01So first of all, how much was the abolition of the non-DOM regime damaging
01:04to entrepreneurship, to wealthy investors leaving the country?
01:11Well, you've seen around the world a flight of millionaires
01:14to the UAE, to Italy, to the US, at the expense of London.
01:21And if you look at the top end of the London residential market,
01:23you'll find it's very sluggish, very, very, very, very slow.
01:27And the reality is that we live in a very mobile world.
01:30Our ability to move around the world today is unparalleled.
01:34And as a result, we need to understand our relative place in that competitiveness,
01:39you know, area, is hugely important.
01:42And we can't sort of think that we're an island,
01:45that people are just going to come to whatever,
01:47because people can up and go.
01:48And we're seeing too many stories of founders of companies
01:51upping and going and leaving this country.
01:53And that has a significant impact on productivity,
01:56and that eats into confidence in the country.
01:59So I know you want certainty, you want to basically the budget to happen now
02:04so that people can, you know, adapt and get on with their business.
02:07But what do you want to see in the upcoming autumn statement?
02:09Well, ultimately, I think we all understand that the Chancellor needs to raise revenue.
02:15We need to feel, unlike last year, that this is a one-off,
02:19that there is a line drawn under that process.
02:21And if that has to be, as is clearly being floated,
02:23a small rise in income tax and a break in what was said in the manifesto,
02:28I think the government has to be bold and the government has to go for it.
02:31I don't think that anybody in this country really believes
02:34that people have to be hidebound statements,
02:36we're not in business, that we made two or three years ago.
02:39I think it's obviously politically uncomfortable,
02:41but it's an important decision to make.
02:43And the second thing I would say is that we need to play to innovation.
02:47We need to make this country a place that people want to do business in
02:51and come and live in.
02:52If you look at the founder of NVIDIA, he moved from Taiwan to the US.
02:56He's created a company which is valued at almost $5 trillion.
03:00You want to come to the UK or anywhere in Europe,
03:02you have to fill in forms, you have to wait months and months and months.
03:05We are creating an environment that people don't want to come to.
03:09And I think we need to get away from that.
03:11We need to understand that the benefits of immigration are strong for this country
03:16and that we are in a global fight for talent.
03:19And we need to win that.
03:21We need to win our fair share of that.
03:23And at the moment, I don't think we are.
03:24Jonathan, is it about the taxes?
03:26Is it about the money?
03:27Or is it about people not feeling welcome?
03:29I think it's about the environment myself.
03:32I think, yes, taxes are an element of that.
03:34But I don't think everybody is so obsessed with the odd P and the pound to worry about that.
03:38I think we need to create an environment of both a business and a social perspective.
03:42This country becomes a welcoming country again.
03:45And I think that is a route that the prime minister really believes and goes in at his very core.
03:50And I think we need to make sure that we as a country are seen as a welcoming country.
03:54Many of us, for generations, are the beneficiaries of this wonderful country.
03:59And we need to make sure that that is a continuing narrative.
04:02And I'm concerned that we're seeing too much of this negativity,
04:06too much of this downing on Britain,
04:09which is, I think, creating a message around the world
04:12that we're no longer a welcoming environment.
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