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EoM contributor Lindsey Dunn speaks with "Hypochondriac" director Addison Heimann and actor Zach Villa.

Heimann speaks frankly about the events in his life that inspired the movie and why he decided to detour from comedy for his directorial debut. Villa shares how playing Will demanded more from him than previous horror roles and how he handled such a challenging role. They both get into the nitty gritty of what that mysterious creature in a wolf costume is all about and the hardest scene to film.

Screening in-person and online during SXSW 2022. #SlashBack #SXSW #SXSW2022

SXSW Festival Page: https://schedule.sxsw.com/2022/films/2053823

Official Synopsis:
Will, a young Hispanic gay potter, is one gregarious guy. His boss is terrible, but he's got a great boyfriend and a great job. Unfortunately, behind that veneer is a dark past of violence and mental illness that he is desperate to keep hidden. When his bipolar mother comes out of the woodwork after ten years of silence, he begins exhibiting unexplainable symptoms. After an injury at work, he starts losing functioning of his arms, and something sinister lurks in the corner of his vision: a silent and ominous man in a wolf costume. Will spirals into an obsession, determined to solve this mystery of his own. What is going on with his arms? Can he trust his boyfriend? Is he becoming his mother?

World premiere during SXSW 2022.
Transcript
00:00Hello, everyone. I'm here for Elements of Madness. This is Lindsay Dunn, and today I'm here with Addison Hyman, director of Hypochondriac, and the star of that movie, Zach Villa, or Zach Villa. Addison and Zach, welcome to Elements of Madness.
00:16Thank you so much.
00:18Thank you. So happy to be here.
00:21Yes, we have a third guest that is joining us as well.
00:25So thank you so much for talking to me about your work on Hypochondriac, and what a great title. Addison, give us your elevator pitch for what the movie is about.
00:38Oh, well, it is a basically it's a horror movie about my mental breakdown, a gay horror movie because I'm gay.
00:46And basically, it is a movie about a guy named Will, a young potter, whose mother suffers from mental illness.
00:55And after not talking with her for a long time, she starts leaving these mysterious voicemails, contacting him, telling him not to trust his friends, telling him not to trust anything in his workplace.
01:08And as it happens, he injures himself at work, and the confluence of events makes him think that he's dying.
01:15And at the same time, he starts being haunted by a mysterious man in a wolf costume who keeps appearing, trying to get his attention.
01:23And then that sends him on a journey to try to investigate why this is happening and how to make it stop.
01:28I understand it's inspired by actual events that you went through.
01:33It's a brave thing to kind of open up this way, I feel, about your past.
01:38So what made you want to tell the story?
01:42Basically, to do that, I basically have to tell you the story of my mental breakdown.
01:47Are you okay with that?
01:48I can give a very truncated version.
01:49I can give a long, luxurious version.
01:51But I think basically, I'll just, I'll meet you in the middle.
01:55But basically, I mean, it started out as, I mean, therapy, right?
02:00So basically, what happened to me is my mother is bipolar, and she's been on and off in manic episodes for, since I was 12, basically.
02:07And I went home for Christmas, and I was alone with her.
02:11And she was being very much manipulative, as she always is when she's like this.
02:15And I come back to LA, and I start experiencing these symptoms of head fog and dizziness and nausea.
02:22And I don't know what it was.
02:23So I was like, sure, you know what I'm going to do?
02:25Instead of visiting a doctor, I'll visit Dr. Google, because that seems to be the smartest thing to do.
02:29And I do, and Google told me I'm dying of ALS.
02:34And I'm like, yes, this is what I have, for some reason.
02:39I have OCD.
02:40I'm diagnosed at the time with my brain.
02:42I hold on to intrusive thoughts.
02:44And that kind of set me on a wild madness to try to prove to myself that I did and or didn't have it.
02:50And at work, I injured myself by lifting a bunch of really heavy equipment that I actually had no business carrying.
02:57But because I didn't know it at the time, I had to do it.
03:02And I was lifting these, you know, 80-pound lights up and down the stairs without a freight elevator and trying to prove to myself that I wasn't weakening.
03:08And that ended up developing a repetitive strain injury in both of my arms.
03:13And so I kind of crashed then, because that was proof to me that I was dying, went home for about a month, and then came back here and fixed myself on meds.
03:22And then my arms were still hurting, so I visited a holistic massage therapist, which is a very L.A. woo-woo thing to do.
03:29And he injured my arms to the point where I couldn't lift the phone, I couldn't shave, I couldn't type, I couldn't do anything.
03:37So I was bedridden for about three months, bedridden, couch-ridden.
03:40I watched a lot of Scandinavian detective dramas.
03:43Which were great, you know, if you need a recommendation.
03:45There's 16 of them in Denmark, all true detectives.
03:49And basically, you know, that had happened, and I finally saw a physical therapist, and I was finally able to lift five pounds.
03:55And then all this fog and nausea and dizziness came back, and I called my aunt, who's a doctor, and I was like, what's going on?
04:01And she's like, I don't want to scare you, but you might have multiple sclerosis.
04:04And I was like, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
04:06So I find a neurologist, and she's very kind to see me, and she emails me.
04:11She's like, what's going on?
04:12And I send her, like, a magnum opus, and I'm not able to type because I'm still in pain, so I'm doing it via speech-to-text.
04:18And she emails me back, and she's like, come in.
04:20Let's figure this out.
04:22And she gives me an MRI.
04:23She tests all my muscles and all this kind of situation.
04:26And then I get the test results back, and they come back negative, and then all my symptoms went away.
04:33So that, basically, in a nutshell, is a story of the impetus for the story.
04:38And I initially started to get back to your question.
04:40I started by writing this as therapy.
04:43My physical therapist was like, you're a writer.
04:45You need to write.
04:46And I'm like, but I'm in pain.
04:48He's like, I think you can do it.
04:49Just try five minutes.
04:50And so I remember being on, like, two pillows, like, with ice packs on both of my arms, like, all the way up to the desk, because I'm, like, typing out the first 12 pages of this story.
05:00And I just basically started just writing it exactly how it happened.
05:03And the man in the wolf costume was there, but he was, like, he was a friend who died.
05:08And I was writing about my mother, but I wasn't.
05:10There was, like, 18 different things I was writing about.
05:12And as I was going forward, everybody was, like, Addison, you're telling a story about your mother.
05:17And, you know, and I'm, like, and they're, like, that's the story.
05:21That's what you're trying to say.
05:22And so I did that.
05:23And then that ultimately became the script of what it is today.
05:26And once I started dropping, you know, because you have the story, right?
05:29You have the story of what happened.
05:31But just because it happened doesn't make it interesting in terms of, like, telling your story on the screen.
05:36And so I had to cut all those parts out and then, like, under the lens of horror, decided to make a movie that was representative of my mental breakdown.
05:44Not an exact retelling, but more of an emotional retelling to kind of, like, have the audience experience what it feels like to crack, essentially.
05:53And so that's kind of because of that and because, like, afterwards, like, I found, you know, telling my story was so important.
06:00I was, because I was telling my story to other people and they were, like, you know what?
06:03What happened?
06:04This is what happened to me.
06:04Like, this is what happened to me.
06:06And this is what happened to me.
06:07And I'm, like, oh, there's something here.
06:10There's something here that we don't talk about.
06:12And obviously, like, mental health is becoming bigger and more conversations.
06:15And I'm just, like, I want to be a part of that conversation.
06:18Something happened to me.
06:19It was horrific.
06:20Also funny and weird and zany because, honestly, mental breakdowns can be a little hilarious with perspective.
06:26Not maybe at the time.
06:28But that together, like, maybe, like, you know, this is the story I want to tell.
06:33And I was mainly a writer-producer before.
06:36This is my first directing gig.
06:38But because it happened to me, I'm, like, I know what it felt like.
06:41I know what I know how visually I want to tell it.
06:44I think it's time for me to step in the director seat.
06:46Yeah, it sounds like you had, that was the story you had to tell.
06:50And also, you realized your story could be helpful to others.
06:54Yes.
06:55And help them maybe, yeah, open up.
06:57That's the short version.
06:58But I appreciate your detailed version.
07:01So.
07:02No, for sure.
07:03You know, it's funny.
07:04It's, like, I could have done that.
07:06But, I mean, that's what you, you're, that's why, I mean, you write for Press for Movies.
07:10You know exactly.
07:11You distilled that exactly to the perfect sound bite.
07:13So, now I'm just going to steal that from there.
07:16It's funny, though.
07:17What strikes me is whenever you tell that story, Addison, is, like, you know, you said it's, like, therapy.
07:22But I think a lot of great art starts as a way to, you know, find catharsis in a personal experience that you have as a human being.
07:30And then, you know, through the writing process, I don't write.
07:33I write songs.
07:34You write words and scripts.
07:36I do.
07:37I do do that.
07:39But it's, like, yeah, but the process is so fascinating because it's, like, you, you know, you write yourself.
07:43You just kind of start, and then you come up with this device, you know, like, the imagery of the wolf costume.
07:49And some things are inflated.
07:50Some things are more true to reality.
07:52And it's, like, but that's naturalism, right?
07:54And then it, like, gives us an artistic lens to process something.
07:57So, it's cool.
07:59So, Zach, you're certainly no stranger to horror being on American Horror Story and Archive 81 and probably other things that I'm not mentioning.
08:08What was different or challenging for you in playing the role of Will?
08:14I think the thing that strikes me in this moment is because, you know, it was a big role for me in a number of ways personally and professionally.
08:25And I knew that the script was, you know, it was special.
08:28But I think that as I started working on it, I realized how close to home a lot of these themes were.
08:36You know, there's mental illness in my family.
08:40And I think it's more common, you know, in the diaspora of the American experience, honestly, of the human experience, than we want to give it credit for.
08:51And so, when Addison kind of threw this, you know, this script my way, which, you know, I got in the old-fashioned way through auditioning.
08:59And it was, you know, you see stuff that's just another gig and then you see stuff that's like, oh, this is something really special.
09:04And immediately from the first moment, I was like, oh, I think this is supposed to be me.
09:09And for whatever reason, my experiences, I found out later, you know, ran parallel to a lot of the things that Addison has dealt with in his life.
09:19And, you know, both on a personal level and thematically and family-wise.
09:23And I was like, oh, I have the life experience from a unique perspective, both as an actor, but firstly as a person that I was like, oh, this role is in me in a way that I didn't have to, I didn't really have to work.
09:40It was more just, you know, like other roles like American Horror Story, I definitely went in a more clinical fashion.
09:44You know, like I copied, because I was playing a, based on a real person, character based on a real person.
09:50So I was, you know, mimicking the speech pattern and the movement and all of his life experience.
09:54And it was outside of, you know, I had to work to get to that.
09:58And this process was much more about allowing some of the things that I'd experienced to come out that were already there.
10:08And, you know, through the lens of Will and the script.
10:12But it was more of allowing myself to be vulnerable with things that I already knew were inside of me as a performer and as an actor and giving voice to that.
10:23And it was scary, you know.
10:25I mean, on multiple days on set, I was like, oh, this is okay.
10:29Like, there's, I mean, yeah, we're making art here and I'm acting and whatever, but I don't have to try that hard, you know.
10:34It's right under the skin.
10:36And so that was unique to this process.
10:38Well, that kind of really leads nicely into my next question for you, which is still sticking with Zach.
10:46Your character goes through a roller coaster of emotions, physical trauma, and mental states throughout the movie.
10:53How much of a physical toll did that take on you?
10:57And were there safeguards that you or others put in place for you to have the energy to do it all?
11:02That's interesting.
11:09A very interesting question.
11:11I think there's actually two in there.
11:13Because one is just about the physical and emotional, which is still physical, stamina to actually perform a role that is this demanding.
11:24You know, I mean, our shoot was 20 days, which is kind of the going status quo now for indie movies of, you know, of this particular budget caliber.
11:33And it's like, that is exhausting for any actor, but especially one who's basically a percent of the scenes.
11:42And as Addison is keen to say, it's told through Wilt's perspective.
11:47And so we rarely ever leave him.
11:51And that's why he's so prominent in the story.
11:54So I think, you know, part of the question is just how did I have that stamina to do it?
12:00And that, I think that just speaks to, I get off on having a challenge as an actor.
12:12And I kind of, I've noticed that throughout my career, whether it's music or whether it's acting or dance, I kind of, I get high on the fact that this intense experience is demanding so much of my body and my instrument.
12:27And I often feel like the harder you, you have to go and the more exhausted you are, that's actually sometimes when the best work happens.
12:36And so I don't, I don't really have, you know, I mean, look, you got to stay in shape.
12:39You got to eat, right?
12:39You got to sleep.
12:40But also for this character, he's a little damaged and he's not doing any of those things.
12:44And so I think there's like, I think there's, there's a, there's a synergy for me that I was like, if I felt a little off or exhausted or crazed or out of my mind,
12:54because I was so tired and, you know, and, and working these long hours, I was in the, I was in the perfect place pretty much on the daily to, to go through what Will is experiencing.
13:05So, you know, that's the first part.
13:09And as far as like safeguards emotionally and the stamina to, to go to all these different places, you know, training helps when, when you're in a position where you don't just have it.
13:20You know, I went, I went to this crazy school called Juilliard that you might know of and, you know.
13:25Never heard of it.
13:26I've never heard of it.
13:27I don't know.
13:27Where, where is it?
13:28Where, where is it?
13:29Isn't it in, oh no, I thought, oh, it's not in New Jersey.
13:32I thought New Jersey.
13:33I don't know why.
13:34But no, no, continue please.
13:35Yeah, yeah, it's, it's just this place.
13:38But I, I, you know, the tools that I picked up there, regardless of, of kind of a more troubling experience I had personally going through that program, you know, it taught me to, it taught me to be tough and it gave me technical skills and tools to pull out when, you know, I felt like there wasn't, like there wasn't the direction for me to go.
13:58So there was that.
13:59As far as safeguards are concerned, I don't know if this is like a healthy way of working, which was stressed upon us in my training.
14:05But I, I, as I've gone through my career, I realized that maybe that's not always the most important thing.
14:10And, and I, I might get some flack for that as an actor, as an artist.
14:13I think that recently I've been pushing my body and my mind to places that are risky because I'm trying to, to induce some sort of chaos in the role.
14:26And, you know, and I didn't want to, I didn't want to leave anything unanswered or unasked in this role.
14:33And so I really was just kind of like my wellbeing is, is besides the point in a lot of ways.
14:39I was like, I'll figure this out later.
14:41You know, I, I did have a lovely assistant, Sophie, who was able to help me, you know, through the process.
14:48And she kind of kept me running and anticipated my needs.
14:52And the cast and crew honestly did a lot of the work for me because they, they, they knew that I was carrying a lot and, and, and they stepped up to the plate and, and, and in turn carried me when, when things were tough.
15:04And that's a testament, you know, like every scene that you see, like, yeah, I'm doing some, some cool work if I do say so myself, but the script was amazing.
15:12I had a director that I could trust, which is a rarity.
15:15No offense to any other directors, but you know, when, when you have a true collaboration, those are really special relationships.
15:21And when you, when you can really trust someone to help improve your performance, not just guide it.
15:26And, and so I had that in Addison and then the cast, honestly, couldn't, couldn't have been better or more appropriate.
15:33And I just knew that if I was ever having an off moment or an off day, they would catch me.
15:38And if all else failed, you could hug a llama.
15:43You mean this llama?
15:48Addison, when I went through to see your previous work, a lot of it.
15:51Was identified as comedy.
15:54So how did you come to the decision to do hypochondriac as a horror genre film?
16:01Yeah.
16:02You know, I, I mean, like, honestly, the short answer is my mental breakdown.
16:08I mean, honestly, that's what happened.
16:09It's like, I, I did a bunch of stuff beforehand, like, you know, you know, in terms of comedy, like I did a web series about like sorority, sorority crime fighters trying to destroy evil frat scum.
16:19Like, I like did some, you know, and I did like, and I did some like black mirror, like comedy shorts, but they were darker.
16:28But I think honestly, for me, like, you know, I've always been a horror buff.
16:32But like, when I went through it, it kind of shifted and changed what I found important.
16:36And so when, when it came to like starting to write this and why I wanted to make it a horror, I think specifically horror in such a great way.
16:47Like, and it's been doing this for decades, by the way, this isn't new, has, has a way of, of, of highlighting and elucidating things and that we deal with mental health, trauma, you know, like homophobia, sexism, all these things that have, and they're able to elicit it, highlight it in a way that's, you know, both entertaining and chaotic and weird and crazy without being so messagey.
17:16Messagey, if that makes sense.
17:18Like, I feel like there's, there's like, there's this, this is unbelievable creativity you get when you're like, are both trying to scare somebody and trying to entertain them and also tell a story about real people going through real stuff.
17:32And like that confluence of, you know, kind of what I was going through in my mental breakdown, I was like, oh, this is what I find important.
17:39This is actually what I find important.
17:41And so that's kind of how I went and when I was creating the script, what I, what I led.
17:44Like, we're talking before about this character of the wolf in the costume.
17:51And that can really be interpreted so many ways.
17:57And I know you probably don't want to answer the question.
18:01Right.
18:02What does the wolf mean?
18:04I mean.
18:06Go ahead.
18:07I mean, I think you're on a roll.
18:09I mean, listen, listen, it's a pretty obvious metaphor, if I do say so myself.
18:16I don't think it's like people are going to see it and be like, oh, that means that he was upset about the Iran-Iraq Contra affair.
18:24Like, you know, it's like a pretty, I don't know why I said that.
18:27I'm sorry.
18:27But like, I, I, I'm like, it's, it's the physical manifestation of the childhood trauma.
18:32That's what it is.
18:33I mean, like, and it's pretty obvious in it.
18:35And I think, and, you know, it's funny because like, obviously, like, let's call it, let's, you know, call out the giant bunny, bunny in the room.
18:41But, but like, obviously, Johnny Darko is one of my biggest, you know, inspirations for this movie, you know, specifically because in that movie you have like Patrick Swayze being like a total like cheese ball self-help guru.
18:53And if you have the, you know, you have the little girl dance squad and you also have Johnny sitting on his bed crying with his mom being like, how does it feel to have a wacko for his son?
19:03And she says, it feels fantastic.
19:05I mean, that was in the same movie.
19:07And so, you know, like I took, I took all that and I'm just like, you know, to me, like this, that's what the wolf represents.
19:15And, you know, as, and also I don't necessarily see the wolf as, you know, and like, and this is also another thing.
19:21It's like, everybody can make up their own mind what it means because that's the beauty about art.
19:25Once it's released, it's not mine anymore.
19:27So you take my interpretation, honestly, for just one, because honestly, I'd love to hear more ideas of what other people thought because I think that's cool.
19:34And I think that's what art is great at when it can be put out and be interpreted different ways in the positive sense because it's going to mean something to different people.
19:43But like, I think ultimately it's like, everybody has their wolf.
19:47Everybody has their man in the wolf costume sitting in the corner, like that they try not to look at, but it's there, you know?
19:53And that's what happens with Will as he goes into his journey.
19:55He's like, the wolf's not a bad guy.
19:57He's just his trauma.
19:58And the more he ignores him, the more violent and grotesque he gets.
20:04And ultimately that, like, you know, is what I take away from it.
20:08And if other people don't take that away from it, then that's awesome.
20:11And I can't wait to hear their interpretation.
20:13You know what I mean?
20:14I'm curious what both of you found to be the hardest scene to film.
20:19I mean, it's got to be the same one, right, Zach?
20:23Are we thinking about the apartment?
20:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:26The intimacy, the whole intimacy breakout.
20:28The hats, those are the hardest day.
20:30In my view.
20:31But if you have, there's a scene at the end of the movie where it's basically we were shooting in this dingy little studio apartment that was perfect for the movie, bad for everything else.
20:41Because our base camp was, like, under a highway.
20:43So it was already bad circumstances, like, to begin with.
20:46And then talk about, on top of that, we have to have nudity, sex, violence, physical violence, and gore all on the same scene.
20:55And so, basically, that's what we had to do.
20:59And a long scene.
21:01Long scene, long takes, like, every moving part, having an intimacy coordinator, and a stunts person, and our gore team, and, like, robes going back and forth, conversations.
21:12Thank God we all talked about what was going to happen beforehand, because I don't even know what would happen if we didn't do that.
21:16But ultimately, that for us.
21:17And that was also, you know, my most intimate, like, that and the scene before, there's a, you know, I won't spoil this.
21:24There's a very violent scene that happened the day before between the mother and the son.
21:27And that, I had a panic attack during.
21:31And it was because it felt so real, which is a testament to our actors.
21:35But, like, that confluence of two days in that apartment where you already feel.
21:39Because I was so isolated, and that place felt so isolating.
21:43So it was just like, okay, we all got it.
21:44Everybody focused, and everybody was really proud of what we got with on screen.
21:48But to me, it was the most difficult, I think.
21:51Yeah.
21:51Difficult space.
21:53Intense material.
21:56Yeah.
21:56And exhausting.
21:58I mean, we talked about stamina, you know, earlier.
22:01Like, Devin Gray, who's Will and Mize's love interest in the movie.
22:11Really fortunate that we had the chemistry that we had and the trust that we had.
22:15I think we did some really great work together, you know, leading up to that scene.
22:19But that was really where I think we both found each other as actors.
22:24You know, I went in swinging for the fence.
22:27And Devin, oh, man, he's fantastic.
22:32And really, you know, I was saying earlier, like, that's when, you know, your fellow actors catch it.
22:37And Marlene, too.
22:37I mean, who plays Will's mom.
22:40Both of them.
22:41But especially, you know, Devin, in that particular day, that particular scene.
22:47I mean, talk about stamina.
22:48Like, I remember very specifically, we would cut and, you know, there are a lot of moving parts.
22:54And so we'd have to reset.
22:55And it was a difficult space.
22:57And Devin and I kind of both, without talking about it, made the choice to really sustain our emotional place.
23:06Which, you know, some actors, and I do this, too.
23:10It depends on the project.
23:10But, you know, when the camera cuts, you turn it off.
23:13And then you joke around.
23:15And then the camera comes on.
23:16And it's like a jump start to, you know, to get back to where you are.
23:20And sometimes that's helpful emotionally and physically to take a break and then jump back in.
23:26And it kind of, like, kicks your system again and ups the circumstances of the scene to make it fresh again.
23:33However, just because of the nature of where we were emotionally so vulnerable, you know, Devin and I both, we would cut.
23:43And we'd just continue pacing for five to ten minutes, you know, breathing all weird and being very actor-y about things.
23:53If you're like, you okay?
23:53And be like, don't talk to me.
23:54You know, it was just, you know, it's very, like, diva moment-y.
24:00But also, I think that was in service of us trying to really hang on to a consistent performance.
24:07Because we knew, we knew that that was going to be the crux of the film in a lot of ways.
24:11And I think it came off splendidly.
24:16I agree.
24:17Yeah.
24:17It did.
24:18The entire movie was very intense.
24:21But that segment was definitely intensifying.
24:25And then there was the very powerful music on top of it that made you very emotionally caught up and everything.
24:32And that's the point where you, as an audience member, actually think, I don't know if I can take much more of this.
24:39And that's probably the effect that you wanted to cause right at that moment.
24:43No, exactly.
24:45That's what we were going for.
24:46I mean, I don't think Devin would, you know, would balk at me sharing this.
24:51But, you know, there were moments where we just kind of took the reins, you know, in between takes.
24:56Like, I remember coming into him close where there's this moment that, you know, I'm basically supposed to kick him in the chest.
25:05And there were a few times where I came in and was just breathing with him as the camera started to roll, as the sound started to roll.
25:12And I would, I literally took my fist and, like, smacked it as hard as I could on his chest to give him, like, that, oh, God, you know, like, that impetus of physical violence.
25:23And, you know, and some people would argue, oh, well, that's not acting.
25:26Well, it is.
25:27Because you still get an emotional response.
25:30It's also agreed upon beforehand, too.
25:32I mean, like, it wasn't, like, no one was a surprise.
25:35Yeah, it wasn't.
25:36Right, right.
25:36Everything has to be consensual, you know, and, but, but, but I will say that there are moments like that sometimes between actors where you just know things are going to be, you know, all right.
25:47And, and we, we really just kind of, again, had our, had each other's backs and tried to sustain that, so.
25:53Where's the best place you guys would suggest to follow the film and keep up with updates, a website, a social media account?
26:00What would you recommend?
26:02Yeah, you can definitely follow, well, Bo's that, because he actually has, like, followers.
26:06Because he's spam-ass.
26:08But, but, at Zach Via is definitely a place, because he loves to spam us with content, because he cares about the movie, and he's incredible.
26:16You can also follow, for specifically film updates, you can follow us on Instagram at hypochondriac.film.
26:22And if you want pictures of me and my director stuff, I guess you can follow me at addybear5, A-D-D-Y-B-E-A-R-5.
26:34Johnny 5, do not disassemble.
26:36Thank you guys so much for talking to me today.
26:41Hypochondriac is showing at South by Southwest, March 14th through the 17th, including on online screening.
26:47So, be sure to check it out, or hopefully look for it at a streaming service or a theater near you in the near future.
26:54Theaters, but theaters at the end of the summer.
26:56We're going to be in theaters.
26:58Oh, you heard it here first, folks.
27:00And, so, Addison, Zach, thank you so much for talking to me.
27:06And I will see all of the viewers next time on Elements of Madness.
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