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Australian Story - Season 30 Episode 37 -
It's My Party
It's My Party
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02:26And I do want it to be fun,
02:28because I think that makes it easier to investigate things
02:32and go into uncomfortable spaces.
02:36She dares to be feminine and sexual
02:39and to talk about those power dynamics.
02:43That's very confronting to us,
02:45in all sorts of ways.
02:46It's confronting to men,
02:47it's confronting to the art world.
02:49We'll see how the men take it.
02:51The men are a little hysterical.
02:52But I have had to deal with this,
02:54Đó là sự kiện giáo dấu của công nghệ.
02:57Đó là những người vẫn nói rằng tôi không phải là một con người, không phải là một con người thực tế.
03:03Và tôi nói là, OK.
03:06Nhưng tôi đã làm gì để đối hành trên và chết tích, và tôi đã đạt được tự do.
03:10Đó là, oh yeah?
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07:08This is wonderful preparation for life.
07:11It allows her to have an insight, a real experience.
07:17It made her very brave and able to go out into the world
07:25in a very unique way.
07:31She lost her dad when she was 17
07:34and she came to the United States and was on her own.
07:38The timing couldn't have been worse.
07:40He died and then she was getting on a plane
07:45two months later to go to college.
07:49Oh, Lloyd.
07:52Yeah, that was hard. I really loved my dad.
07:59All right, yes, we are on Australian Story and I'm crying.
08:04Oh, God.
08:07Yeah.
08:08So, yeah, I lost my dad really early
08:10and I haven't even cried about him in forever.
08:13I think seeing someone you love die
08:16changes your perspective on your own life.
08:19I thought, this is it. We're only here for a short time.
08:22We have to live our dream.
08:25I was expecting her to become an architect and have a PhD.
08:31You know, I really expected her to follow her dad's footsteps
08:35because she was a candidate for that.
08:38But she took off on these adventures.
08:40As soon as I left, it was just this explosive desire to see the world.
08:47And I met, you know, rune readers, diviners.
08:53You know, people were doing spiritual healings on me.
08:56And when it was time to go back to school,
08:59and I decided not to, I decided to continue the experiment.
09:02You know, when we met, we just started travelling up the coast.
09:07We had a school bus.
09:09And we didn't have a plan.
09:12We just let spirit guide us.
09:15This is a little bit embarrassing.
09:18Because I do not operate this way now.
09:21But a psychic woman told me that I needed to go to New Orleans.
09:25Except that's what happened.
09:28It took me no time to find where the artists live.
09:34I think I met KK in 2003.
09:38She had no money.
09:40And she was a working artist.
09:45She chose to make her home and to create her art project
09:50in a community within a very dangerous part of town
09:56and get to know people as people
09:59and include them and bring them into the art world.
10:05I actually had aspirations to open a museum.
10:08And then Hurricane Katrina hit.
10:10And we lost the building as a result.
10:15And instead, I became occupied with my house and the houses.
10:19on my street, which were now completely flooded and full of mud.
10:24And so I went out and got a house paint sprayer
10:28and tons of white paint.
10:30But we just decided to paint everything white.
10:32The house, the roof, the windows, the trees in front,
10:35the telephone pole.
10:38And this is now an art space.
10:41So then I invited an artist to come in and create a work.
10:44She started utilizing other derelict houses
10:48in that same block.
10:51And she was working with international artists
10:54who she would bring in.
10:56And each artist was sort of given their own house
10:59to make an art project with.
11:02I would say the work that's happened in this house
11:05has been about kind of coming to peace
11:07with return to the natural state of New Orleans.
11:11New Orleans.
11:12The art writers came out.
11:14Then suddenly there was a buzz and people were interested.
11:18Instead of an object sitting in a neighborhood as public art,
11:25the neighborhood became the public art.
11:28She's recreating the entire floor of the house.
11:30So it was a very rich experience that she created in this city,
11:36something that no one else had done to my knowledge previously.
11:42It was difficult for some people in the neighborhood,
11:45but she opened the door for her neighbors to participate.
11:50And there were some that wanted to,
11:52and there may have been some who didn't want to.
11:55I think that New Orleans nurtured her soul
12:00in a way that she didn't expect it to.
12:05And she ended up starting a school in New Orleans
12:10called the Material Institute
12:12to give back to the people that gave to her.
12:15So there's that option.
12:17Or we can take one of these steps.
12:20She loves New Orleans.
12:22That's like a second home to her.
12:25Anyway, she went to an art festival in Switzerland
12:29and met David.
12:33And he had these thick glasses on.
12:35He looked extremely intelligent,
12:37and I was impressed.
12:39I was like, who are you?
12:41You are so fascinating.
12:43But then he got shy and left,
12:47but one of his friends did his work
12:50and came and invited me to dinner,
12:52and then that was that.
12:57She was smitten, you know.
12:59She had found somebody that was her intellectual equal,
13:03and that was rare for her.
13:08David's a Tassie boy from the northern suburbs.
13:11Didn't go to posh schools.
13:13He made his fortune by being a mathematician,
13:18creating systems and processes
13:21that enable acquisition of wealth
13:25through gambling to begin with
13:28and then through collecting artworks.
13:31And he's created Mona Museum in Tasmania.
13:35The Museum of Old and New Art
13:37was described by its founder, David Walsh,
13:40as a subversive adult Disneyland.
13:42I can only be with a very powerful man.
13:45I'm kind of not interested in the other ones.
13:47You know, I need a big, strong man.
13:49I need a man who's a little more powerful than me,
13:52a little smarter, a little richer.
13:57The power differential serves us at home
14:01because I'm very traditional in a way,
14:03and I think I need that to feel feminine.
14:07Maybe that's really wrong, but it's how I feel.
14:10It comes as absolutely no surprise to me whatsoever
14:17that David will not be appearing in this show.
14:20He hates talking about himself.
14:23Television's not his bag.
14:25The menu is a full page, right?
14:28Menu, and then images.
14:31When she arrived in Australia,
14:32there was reporting early on
14:34that she'd been involved in an art project in New Orleans,
14:38which involved some sort of property
14:40which she had control over,
14:42over which some taxes were not paid.
14:44I inherited the penalties basically to the previous owner,
14:50but I had no means or intention of paying them.
14:53I just wanted to use the houses for art.
14:55She didn't really perhaps understand what needed to be done
15:02with her properties that she had in New Orleans
15:05and maybe didn't tend to them in the way that she could have
15:09or should have, and she got some slack.
15:12Smaller versions of the images and the names.
15:15Now I land in Tasmania and I have all of these people
15:18that I've never met just looking at me like,
15:20David Walsh's, you know, dubious new tax dodger wife.
15:25That needs editing.
15:27And I was inexperienced, you know, with negative press.
15:32I just felt like my whole world was falling apart.
15:35It was terrible.
15:38We need to start chopping the vegetables first.
15:41So does everyone feel comfortable using knives?
15:43Yeah.
15:44Great.
15:45We're in Material Institute in our new 24-karat garden cafe.
15:49It's just a learning space where kids cook and serve food.
15:55I was born out of my work in New Orleans.
15:58We've got the prof right here.
16:00But we need to...
16:01It was a big thing to move to Tasmania,
16:03but I was at a stage in my life
16:05where my priority was to build a family.
16:08I just really wanted to be a mother.
16:11Now I have a husband and a daughter and his daughters.
16:16I knew it would be an enormous sacrifice
16:18and would definitely interfere with my work,
16:21and it absolutely has, but I love it.
16:24It's good for us.
16:26It's good for David and I.
16:27We love her together.
16:28It's really beautiful.
16:29So what I want you to do is take your lavender flower
16:32and pop it into the water.
16:34I think that her becoming a mother has made her more grounded
16:41and more, dare I say, responsible.
16:46OK, ready?
16:47But actually, more welcoming to the world
16:50because she's had to change her ways.
16:53That's so refreshing.
16:55You've got a mic on us.
16:56For the past year, I've been the artistic director
16:59of Bleach Festival on the Gold Coast.
17:05We invited Kirsha to bring the Ladies' Lounge up to Queensland.
17:10The Gold Coast is a hotbed of masculinity
17:13and the beaches are full of raw muscle.
17:16And of course, that makes the Ladies' Lounge more exciting.
17:19It's a big production.
17:23There were times when I did call her and say,
17:25look, we are so far over budget,
17:27can we maybe do something else?
17:29And inevitably, I put the phone down
17:31and I'd agree to more things.
17:33We're here today in behalf of all men
17:36to apologize for many centuries of pain, oppression and suffering.
17:42I'm definitely an aesthetic dictator.
17:45Absolutely.
17:46I know when it's right.
17:48There is an avenue for men to come in,
17:50but they come in as a butler.
17:52I do probably count on my team.
17:55They could get burnt out
17:57because when I get into the zone with the work,
18:00I'm focused on it and I won't stop.
18:02And with the left arm, you're going to take the baby.
18:06Don't drop the baby.
18:07Kiesha is just uncompromising.
18:09And it's very easy to call that person difficult to work with
18:12or a diva or whatever,
18:13but she is so singular in her focus
18:15and her vision for what she wants to deliver.
18:18Ladies, we have another graduate
18:20of the butler trading program.
18:23And that's what good work costs.
18:25It's hard.
18:26The ladies' lounge originally came about at the end of COVID,
18:34when Mona was reopening.
18:38Kersha was going to get some tremendous art,
18:40put it in a beautifully designed room
18:42into which no men would be allowed,
18:44except for butlers,
18:45who she said would do what they were told.
18:47For millennia, women have been excluded from spaces
18:51and women have been serving men.
18:54It's really healthy to just exercise the opposite,
18:58just as a new perspective.
19:01She wanted to get some Picassos in there,
19:04and so she painted some Picassos herself.
19:08I was certain I would be discovered,
19:10and I was excited about being splashed across the front page,
19:14you know, scandal, art scandal.
19:17We even hung one of them upside down deliberately
19:20to, you know, be a tell.
19:22There were all of these clues around the place,
19:24and it just took so long before something official happened.
19:28Hello, welcome to the ladies' lounge.
19:32The ladies' lounge was just running smoothly.
19:35It was just this nice, quiet place for women to bond,
19:38and men were being excluded daily
19:41and having their experiences around that.
19:44I think most men found it funny or interesting.
19:49One man came along, and he was from Sydney,
19:53and he filed his formal complaint.
19:55Jason Lau has taken the museum
19:58to the Tasmanian Civil and Administrative Tribunal,
20:02alleging discrimination.
20:04I was like, yes!
20:05Yes!
20:06This is going to be so good for the art!
20:08I was so excited!
20:09I'm like, now the artwork is alive.
20:11Now it's happening.
20:15For Kirsha, it was a real moment
20:16to be able to show the artwork
20:18for what it really is and what it stands for.
20:22The rejection of men is a very central and important part
20:25of the artwork.
20:27There was a cohort of Kirsha's friends and supporters.
20:31As we headed towards the courtroom,
20:33someone threw a strand of pearls around my necklace,
20:35and we all had our navy suits on.
20:40The performative aspects of that court case,
20:43of walking that fine line between performance and contempt,
20:46caught the media's attention in Australia and worldwide.
20:54I asked my lawyer, I said,
20:56do you think you could try to lose?
20:58She said, no, absolutely not.
21:03And I was crossing my fingers, please let us lose,
21:05please let us lose.
21:06And then the ruling arrived, and it was incredible.
21:11It was a dream.
21:14The tribunal has found the ladies' lounge discriminatory
21:17and has ordered Mona to allow men entry within 28 days.
21:22She spun it into her web of performance
21:24and it became art.
21:26It became theatre.
21:28They say that the artwork has to be reformed,
21:32but I fear it's beyond reform.
21:34I don't...
21:39Her response was fairly typical of Kirsha.
21:41She picked up the best of the art
21:43and stuck it in the women's toilets.
21:46And then attention was drawn to the fact
21:48that there were also fake Picassos in there.
21:51Tasmania's Museum of Old and New Art
21:53has admitted displaying three fake Picasso paintings
21:57for more than three years.
21:59And so now my husband, he's taking all of this heat
22:04and they're like, why is Mona showing fake art?
22:07They're going to lose all credibility.
22:10I think she's the nightmare of the art world.
22:14No one takes her very seriously.
22:18She's a Froot Loeb.
22:20She's a Coco.
22:24The women fighting to exclude men
22:26from a lounge at Hobart's Mona Museum
22:28have had a legal victory today.
22:31A Supreme Court judge has ruled
22:32the so-called Ladies' Lounge
22:34can lawfully refuse to admit men.
22:38The verdict demonstrates a simple truth.
22:41Women are better than men.
22:44The Ladies' Lounge in the court case
22:46really transformed Kirsha's profile.
22:48She is famous now because of her work,
22:51not because she's Mrs Walsh.
22:53They're Picasso.
22:54Are they real?
22:55No, yes they are.
22:56Can I see Picasso again?
22:58Because I...
22:59Only if you clean it.
23:00Okay.
23:01But I want to see it again.
23:02I'm really interested in the Ladies' Lounge now,
23:04in its next stage.
23:07My artist's ego wants to be invited to the Venice Biennale
23:10and I want to break my way in, like always.
23:14It holds a lot of promise.
23:16I think the Ladies' Lounge could actually be
23:18a type of embassy,
23:20a space for women to work on things
23:22like International Peace Accords.
23:28I think she's very aware of the power of art
23:31and her performance
23:32and her ability to break a stalemate.
23:35I'm fascinated by disputes and I'm fascinated by the possibility
23:42of what people can find that they have in common
23:45and ways in which they can move forward past entrenched positions.
23:50When she first mentioned that she wanted to do the Forest Economic Congress
23:58with greenies and loggers,
24:01I was actually surprised.
24:03I thought it was pretty bold.
24:05A huge range of people had been invited,
24:10not just environmentalists and people in the industry.
24:13It was scientists, it was ecologists,
24:16people who look into forestry finance and economics.
24:20I believe we need to actually just invite our opponents
24:23to literally to our parties.
24:25We should get smashed with someone who doesn't agree with us
24:28so we can actually hash it out.
24:30I don't think people from the mainland understand
24:34just how contentious forestry is in Tasmania.
24:38There are people who came together at Mona
24:40who have only ever seen each other
24:43across picket mines or across lines in the forest.
24:49I had a slight fear that we were going to be
24:52a performer in some grand performance art piece
24:55and it might be this huge big ha-ha gotcha sort of thing.
24:59What is the value of a tree?
25:01And moreover, what is the value of nature?
25:04There was definitely some hostility and apprehension
25:07from a lot of people because this was very new.
25:10A lot of people have been playing this game,
25:12for want of a better term, in their silos for a long time.
25:16We're here to listen and to connect as people
25:18beyond our personal ideologies.
25:21I am not fearless.
25:23I am often completely terrified.
25:26But there is a part of me that is enjoying it
25:29and really takes delight in the situation as it unfolds,
25:34even the hard parts.
25:40Mona is a wicked place to hold an event like that
25:43because it completely disarms everybody.
25:46It was like an emotional rollercoaster for three days.
25:50Big feelings and then some weird art, you know,
25:54and then more big discussions and some weird art.
25:59I don't know why tequila diplomacy is so effective.
26:03By the final night late in the morning
26:06when the really radical performances were happening,
26:09they may have already had a shot of tequila
26:12or at least some champagne.
26:14And, yeah, the walls really came down.
26:19It was really easy to then take the next step
26:22and say let's all meet in a smaller group now
26:24and discuss this specific issue.
26:28Was it a success?
26:29I don't know if it achieved significant long-term goals.
26:32It did facilitate a lot of discussion between people
26:35who have never spoken with each other before.
26:39I think there were some people
26:40that thought it was a bit of a greenwash.
26:42Some of the conservationists feel
26:44they're not being engaged since the Congress.
26:46I think there needs to be that dialogue with both sides
26:50and continue to have those sides talking.
26:55Some people are afraid that I am too close to the loggers
26:58and some environmentalists have told me,
27:00you know, I just see you buying them drinks.
27:03I'm like, well, everyone lobbies in their own way.
27:06It's very difficult to compete in the Australian market.
27:09And I think that because I do,
27:11I'm able to actually have hard conversations
27:13and say what does stand between us and best practice?
27:17You know, what is, what can change?
27:25Usha started talking about this sit-in
27:27that she wanted to do on the beach,
27:29women nude or topless, some months ago.
27:32I was, I was a bit worried when she first described it.
27:35I thought, oh, I might get into trouble
27:37or what are the regulations around this?
27:39But as always with Kershaw, she just figures it all out
27:42and it's all fine.
27:47I'm the descendant of Germans
27:49who have absolutely no issues with nudity.
27:51and so I'm always taken aback when I enter a culture
27:56that has shame around the body.
28:01Someone said to me that in the Gold Coast,
28:04the women in the 70s and 80s used to really go topless.
28:07And I thought, well, here I am on the Gold Coast.
28:09We really need to bring this back.
28:12If there is an issue and the police do come up,
28:14I think that will spark a really interesting conversation.
28:24I don't know, I'm getting older.
28:26I think there's less and less opportunities
28:27to do something a bit wild like this.
28:30It just was joyful, actually.
28:32You feel shy and then the inhibitions just drop away.
28:39I suppose with Kershaw,
28:41the dance between the serious and the frivolous
28:45is a bit of a tightrope, that one.
28:49It'll be interesting to see how she balances those two things
28:51because something can be both.
28:56It's not easy to embrace what Kershaw does,
29:01but I think if she continues to develop the ideas
29:05that she is working with,
29:08there will be a time when the art world, so to speak,
29:13sees how important it is what she is doing.
29:19I think she brings people into it,
29:20which brings a whole new dynamic to art.
29:23Art should be lived and it should be something
29:24that is experiential.
29:26Bring your body to the event, bring your whole self.
29:28and also really challenges what our idea of art is.
29:33I myself am baffled, you know, a good portion of the time
29:36where I'm like, is this art?
29:38You know, does this count for art?
29:41But it does tend to come around and I realize,
29:43yes, this is art.
29:45I make life art.
29:49Walking with all of those women on the beach,
29:52this feeling that it's just us, it's our space.
29:57It just took on this quality of a ritual
30:00and it was so transcendent and beautiful.
30:04I just felt like, yes, this is, this is the power of art.
30:08It's the power of art.
30:18We sang...
30:20Ave nananzus, which is...
30:25This one's gonna get me, okay?
30:28Ave...
30:31Maybe everyone go, just, you go away, Marissa.
30:34Ave...
30:35I saw your head face!
30:39Ave...
30:41Maria...
30:48Oh, thank you.
30:50It's been such a pleasure to be on your show.
30:54I'm so excited to watch it.
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