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00:02:47Những gì giữa Winchester và Eastbourne,

00:02:52I'm familiar with that part of the landscape.

00:02:55So you walk up?

00:02:56I have been, I do walk occasionally, Alan.

00:03:00But doing the South Downs Way, I heartily recommend it.

00:03:04It's both beautiful and therapeutic.

00:03:06John, when you were Prime Minister,

00:03:08every county you must have visited,

00:03:10so you know the land well, presumably.

00:03:13Reasonably well, yeah.

00:03:16But I suppose my principal thought about all that over the years

00:03:20is that, thank God I was born in a country that has seasons.

00:03:24I can't imagine living in a country that doesn't.

00:03:27I've worked in some,

00:03:29but I think the seasons in this country

00:03:31are something that will always bring me back.

00:03:33Favourite season? Which one? Spring, summer, autumn or winter?

00:03:36Spring or autumn.

00:03:37Yeah.

00:03:37It's a toss-up. Probably spring.

00:03:39Yeah. Renewal.

00:03:41Yes, I mean, it's beautiful.

00:03:42When you see the trees begin to bud and the flowers begin to bud,

00:03:45and everything comes to life from being naked,

00:03:50as many of the plants are, and they begin to leaf.

00:03:52It's a wonderful time.

00:03:53Lalita, countryside or are you a city girl?

00:03:56I'm totally a city girl, but I really love the countryside.

00:03:59So when I come back to the city, I feel at home.

00:04:01I grew up in Birmingham, so I'm very city.

00:04:03It's in my blood.

00:04:04But when I go to the countryside, I'm like,

00:04:06oh, why don't I live here?

00:04:07I'm a true Gemini.

00:04:09Yeah, split personality.

00:04:11Yeah.

00:04:11Looking at you all from your disparate areas,

00:04:14from theatre, from writing, from politics, the whole thing,

00:04:19it strikes me that the people that you three have met over the years,

00:04:23whether they've been members of the public who tell you exactly what they think, John,

00:04:26or fans or great people that you've worked with, actors in particular.

00:04:33I mean, are there things, Hugh, that have stayed with you,

00:04:35that you've been told by folk that perhaps in a moment that you didn't really expect

00:04:41and suddenly you're aware that that's going to stick with you for life?

00:04:44Actually, yes.

00:04:45One that has occurred to me is my very first day at the National Theatre,

00:04:50when I was very, very nervous and holding a spear and understudying,

00:04:53and this other actor came up to me at the tea urn,

00:04:57as we were both sort of mixing our coffees and teas,

00:05:00and it was Celia Imry, and she said,

00:05:03this is nerve-wracking, isn't it?

00:05:04I thought, gosh, well, she's pretty well established and she's nervous, you know, then.

00:05:08And she then, later in the conversation,

00:05:10she said something that her mother had said to her, which was, do it now.

00:05:14And I thought nothing of it at the time, but on reflection,

00:05:18it became a real sort of mantra for me.

00:05:20We were only here once and I lost my brother very suddenly, overnight.

00:05:24He died, you know, very unexpectedly.

00:05:26And so the next day I went and planted that copper beech that I'd been meaning to plant

00:05:31for ten years and had never got round to.

00:05:34I thought, do it now.

00:05:35Gosh, gosh.

00:05:37Lolita, for you, things that have stuck?

00:05:40So my first play, Red Velvet, was a really hard-earned piece of work

00:05:45and we were lucky enough to transfer it to New York.

00:05:49And when we went to New York, I invited someone I'd met a few times, James Earl Jones,

00:05:54to come and see the opening night.

00:05:55Oh, what a voice.

00:05:56Wow.

00:05:56Oh, what a lovely voice.

00:05:58And the main character...

00:05:59That was a name drop.

00:06:00I'm just going to pick that up.

00:06:01Really well.

00:06:02I'm just going to pick that up.

00:06:03But the main character, in my head, as I'd written Ira Aldridge,

00:06:06elements of him were James Earl Jones.

00:06:08Anyway, he came to see the show and afterwards he said to me, I had no idea.

00:06:14He said, I thought Ira Aldridge was an English actor.

00:06:17I had no idea he was American and that he did all that.

00:06:20I thought, my God, James Earl Jones is saying that to me.

00:06:23I thought, OK, I've done my job.

00:06:25You have done your job.

00:06:26In the political arena then, John, I mean, things that you've been said

00:06:30that have stuck with you that you've not forgotten.

00:06:32Gosh, there are so many.

00:06:35Let me offer you one.

00:06:36All right.

00:06:37I was walking in the Kremlin with Boris Yeltsin.

00:06:40That's another name drop.

00:06:42I don't think anybody else can sit here and say to me,

00:06:45I was walking in the Kremlin with Boris Yeltsin.

00:06:48Well, I was.

00:06:49I was walking in the Kremlin with Boris Yeltsin and I said to him,

00:06:53tell me, Boris, in one word, what is the state of Russia?

00:06:58He said, good.

00:07:00I was surprised it was falling to pieces at the time.

00:07:03I said, tell me in two words.

00:07:04He said, not good.

00:07:05And I thought, there's more to this man than I thought.

00:07:13You all over the years had royal connections or done things.

00:07:17You were part of the coronation concert at Windsor Castle.

00:07:21Yeah.

00:07:22Hugh was with someone extraordinarily famous.

00:07:25Here's Hugh in the coronation concert at Windsor.

00:07:28Wait a second.

00:07:29Are you single, your lordship?

00:07:32Well, look, I mean, I'm flattered.

00:07:34Oh, you feel it too.

00:07:36Lady Piggy, it just sounds so right, doesn't it?

00:07:40Does it?

00:07:41Does it?

00:07:42Oh, good grief.

00:07:44Just point us to the royal box, Hugh, and we will both be out of your way.

00:07:48Yes, darling.

00:07:49Show him the way.

00:07:51King Charles E. Whirls is expecting him.

00:07:55Well, aren't you sitting in the royal box as well?

00:07:58Oh, not anymore.

00:07:59I'll get him to the box.

00:08:00But then I have a wedding to plan for a lord and future lady.

00:08:08Well, I can't wait.

00:08:09So look, it's up the stairs, chaps in tall fuzzy hats.

00:08:13They'll show you the way.

00:08:14Thank you so much, Hugh.

00:08:16Let's go, Piggy.

00:08:16Come on.

00:08:17Oh, back soon.

00:08:20Don't forget to get a ring.

00:08:23A big one, too.

00:08:26Being flirted with by Miss Piggy.

00:08:28That was a career point, let's put it that way.

00:08:34Can you forget about the puppetry?

00:08:35Can you forget about the puppetry and all that's going on?

00:08:37You're going to start telling me she's not real.

00:08:39She'll be furious.

00:08:40She's at home.

00:08:40Sorry, darling.

00:08:41I'll be back soon.

00:08:43Was Paddington more trouble?

00:08:47Yeah, he had different issues.

00:08:50Lalita, you got your OBE at Windsor Castle.

00:08:52I did, yeah.

00:08:54It was an amazing day.

00:08:55An amazing day from Princess Anne.

00:08:57Yeah, and just with so many extraordinary people, unforgettable experience.

00:09:02It's very special.

00:09:03And John, you particularly, I mean, you know, all those years as Prime Minister and meetings

00:09:08with the Queen and encounters at Buckingham Palace and Balmoral Windsor Castle, a whole lot.

00:09:13All the sort of royal residences you've encountered, presumably.

00:09:16Yes.

00:09:17I remember staying with the Queen in Scotland, getting up at very early in the morning because

00:09:22was some wretched pipe stone was piping around the building.

00:09:27You wouldn't have said that when she was alive.

00:09:30Well, not to the Queen, I wouldn't know.

00:09:33And I looked out of the window and there was this lady in a headscarf and a raincoat in rather

00:09:40grotty weather with dogs, corgis.

00:09:44And it was the Queen out very early in the morning walking her corgis.

00:09:47I remember that very plainly.

00:09:49And saying, come in, it's wet.

00:09:51Get yourself in it.

00:09:52She seemed quite relaxed in a way.

00:09:54Yeah, I think she is, particularly up in Scotland, which she used to love, Lily.

00:09:58Much more from Lolita, Sir John and Hugh coming up.

00:10:02Now, tuck into today's offerings with the best china out today and there's some Madeira cake,

00:10:08courtesy of Mrs Patmore, you'd be pleased to know.

00:10:10Oh, very good.

00:10:10Still to come.

00:10:11You thought you'd shed it, Hugh, I'm sorry.

00:10:13Still to come in the latest Weekend With, we join the punk icon singer Toya, welcomes us

00:10:19to her home and reveals her passion for living life on the river and long upright ears and

00:10:25elegant arched Roman nose and his sheep aren't too shabby either.

00:10:29Tom Davies presents his Border Leicesters, a first for Mammoth Farm.

00:10:34I'll be back with Tom and his stately sheep right after this.

00:10:38Slice of Madeira, anyone?

00:10:40Did you say yes, Prime Minister?

00:10:42Oh, I've always wanted to say that.

00:10:49In the other gardens and all up in the vale from the autumn bonfires,

00:11:04see the smoke trail.

00:11:06Pleasant summer over and all the summer flowers.

00:11:10The red fire blazes, the grey smoke towers.

00:11:14Lovely words by Robert Louis Stevenson and timely with Bonfire Night just around the corner.

00:11:20Before the fireworks, with our own sparkling line-up.

00:11:23Coming up, the only thing exploding is his creativity.

00:11:27Florist Jonathan Moser reveals his firework-inspired floral arrangements to light up the inside of

00:11:33your home, this bonfire night.

00:11:35And clandestine affairs, family secrets, social ambition, joyous young love and dark doings

00:11:42of the scheming and the scurrilous, Hugh Bonneville on the worldwide success of Downton Abbey

00:11:47and his own success as a children's author.

00:11:51But first, recognised for their characteristic Roman noses, prominent upright ears and superior fleece,

00:11:59Border Leicester sheep are one of our most distinguished breeds.

00:12:02As the largest indigenous sheep in the British Isles, the Border Leicester, is highly regarded

00:12:08for its dual-purpose qualities, offering both rapidly maturing, high-quality meat and exceptional wool.

00:12:14Here to learn more about this rare and versatile breed, welcome Cassandra and Jumbo with our

00:12:21resident farmer, Tom Davies.

00:12:23We should talk about the colour first of all, Tom.

00:12:25So we've got Cassandra here, who's what you might call normal sheep colour.

00:12:28What's with Jumbo and his tint?

00:12:31So this is called bloom dipping, and there are a few breeds of sheep in the UK where,

00:12:35you know, for showing and sale purposes, they're bloom dipped.

00:12:38And you can get a range of different colours, and in some of the days gone by, it would have

00:12:43been maybe peaty soil or even like a more natural sort of grey colour that would have covered

00:12:49the fleece.

00:12:50And what it does is it just makes those white legs and that very iconic face of the Border Leicester

00:12:56pop out that little bit more.

00:12:58And because Jumbo is a recent addition to the flock at Mud Chute, that's why he's in

00:13:06his show clothes.

00:13:08In his show attire.

00:13:10And they originated where?

00:13:11In Leicester?

00:13:12Well, Northumberland.

00:13:13Yeah.

00:13:13The sort of border counties.

00:13:15They're said to have been created around in the sort of 1700s, mid to late 1700s there.

00:13:20And as with all breeds of sheep, if we go back to their sort of origins, they will have

00:13:26changed dramatically since that sort of initiation.

00:13:29A lot of hybridisation between different breeds.

00:13:31Yeah.

00:13:31And the ears are so distinctive, aren't they?

00:13:33I mean, they're like hairs.

00:13:34They're so long.

00:13:36They are.

00:13:36And it's one of the things that makes the breed stand out.

00:13:39Once you see a Border Leicester, you will never forget it.

00:13:42So the life cycle of them then is when is the ram put to the sheep?

00:13:47So the ram goes to the old sort of wives' tale or farmers' tale is you put the ram in

00:13:51on bonfire night and you'll have lambs on April Fool's Day.

00:13:55So that's generally the cycle.

00:13:57But with breeds like this, if we're wanting early lammers, early lambs for some of the shows,

00:14:02you'd be lambing anywhere between sort of December or January, right the way through

00:14:07to sort of you wouldn't want them any later than the beginning of March, really.

00:14:10But also if you're in a colder part of the country, you wouldn't want them too early,

00:14:13would you?

00:14:14No.

00:14:14Are these sheep which tend to be more lowland?

00:14:17They're not on expose areas?

00:14:18Well, they are used up in sort of higher country for producing crossbred sheep.

00:14:23This fantastic white face, these big framey bodies, they'll produce what's called a mule

00:14:27ewe, you know, a big framed female crossbred sheep that will be able to milk well and carry

00:14:34big lambs inside that big deep frame, you know.

00:14:37So they will need a bit of looking after, you know, and you'll need to potentially, if you're

00:14:42lambing early, you will need to lamb them inside as opposed to outside, but later on in the

00:14:47country, especially up north more, you'd be sort of lambing around about sort of April

00:14:52time if they're outside.

00:14:53Now, looking and saying he's new to the flock, as it were, it's very important, obviously,

00:14:58whatever your flock, wherever you are, whatever the breed is, is to keep new blood coming in.

00:15:03Yeah. And is that something, you know, you're constantly doing, is introducing new stock

00:15:07with a different line, obviously still the same breed, but from a different branch where

00:15:11we're there just to keep the hybrid vigour going then, really?

00:15:14Yes. So these are one of the more recent additions to the Rare Breed Survival Trust watch list

00:15:19over the last few years. And since they've come onto the list, there seems to have been

00:15:23an increase in keepers, which is fantastic. You know, but you always want to keep that genetic

00:15:29diversity as wide as possible. And, you know, you need to look for what you want your rams

00:15:35and your females to do, and always looking at the next generation, what you're improving.

00:15:39So with the purchase of Jumbo there, we're looking at improving the size and the length

00:15:45in the borders that we produce, you know, and having that presence and that power. And the

00:15:50flock that he comes from is a prize-winning flock, you know, wins up and down the country

00:15:54at a lot of the big major shows. So he's a fantastic new addition.

00:15:57And his life as a ram will be how long, serving your views?

00:16:00Well, for us, I mean, unfortunately for him, we've only got three years this time. But,

00:16:04you know, who knows, we may expand that in the future. And also as well, you know, he

00:16:09may go out to a few other places on a working holiday and hopefully leave the ladies that

00:16:14he goes and sees with more than just happy memories.

00:16:16Jumbo, a lot's resting on you for Mud Chute. You know what to do. Go out and do it. Go

00:16:23on, enjoy yourself. We hear a lot about wool and about how difficult it is now to get a

00:16:28good price for wool, but this is quality wool here. Presumably they do better than most.

00:16:32Yes, they will. And what you would want to do is leave it until that length has grown,

00:16:37full staple length, and you shear it off incredibly carefully. And that lovely fleece with beautiful

00:16:43crimp right the way down it is a more premium price. The long wool breeds of sheep in the

00:16:47UK are the ones that you get a premium price for.

00:16:49Well, we wish you luck with them. Jumbo, we hope you'll do well for Tom. You know, he's

00:16:53chosen you, so just do right by him, all right?

00:16:56Still to come, the cricket-loving politician who became Prime Minister, Sir John Major on

00:17:02his douring street years and his life after politics. And from the bill to Broadway, Lolita

00:17:08Chakrabarti on the runaway success that won five Olivier's and three Tony Awards. I'll see

00:17:14you with the multi-talented Lolita and more right after this.

00:17:26Welcome back to Love Your Weekend. Still ahead, as the late great Noel Cowan famously said,

00:17:36a perfect martini should be made by filling a glass with gin and waving it in the general

00:17:41direction of Italy. Well, he may not be waving in the general direction of Italy, but he doesn't

00:17:46know how to fill the glass. Tom Sergi is master of ceremonies in today's Best of British, and

00:17:51it's a martini special. Can't wait. And buckle up for the adventure of a lifetime, Hugh Bonneville

00:17:58and his hilarious debut children's novel inspired by his own childhood. But first, West End and

00:18:05Broadway success is never a given. But when it does come, it's a reflection of a show that's

00:18:11like a magnet to audiences. Which brings me to my next guest, whose stage adaptation of

00:18:16Jan Martel's Life of Pi was nothing short of a masterpiece, with its innovative storytelling

00:18:22that had audiences gripped from the word go.

00:18:25I will tell you everything. Because my story will make you believe in God. I lived in Pondicherry's

00:18:38botanical gardens. It was a huge zoo, spread over acres and acres. And now it's so small,

00:18:47that fits in my head.

00:18:57Why are you looking at me like that? Is it me next? Is that what you think?

00:19:10You scare me. But when I'm with you, I feel better.

00:19:15Welcome to writer and actress Lolita Chakrabarti, who did the screenplay, the dialogue, the

00:19:23play from the book Life of Pi. Do you know, as a reader, so often when you see adaptations

00:19:30or whatever, they're good, but the colour isn't quite like it was in your imagination. But

00:19:34oh my goodness, it most certainly was with that. But the pressure, Lolita, of taking that

00:19:40book, which was prized by so many, book a winner, and all. Okay, Lolita, here you are. We'd like

00:19:45you to turn this into a stage play. Well, hey, there must have been the thrill of it. But

00:19:49be closely following on its heels. I suspect it was, oh my goodness, I mustn't break this.

00:19:53Is that what it was like?

00:19:55It was exactly like that.

00:19:56I'd loved the novel when it first came out in 2002. And so 15 years later, when I was

00:20:00asked to write the play, I thought, yeah, I loved it. Great.

00:20:03So I just worked at it. And it wasn't until about two years later, when we had the first

00:20:08preview in Sheffield at the Crucible, we were about to open in front of our first audience.

00:20:13I thought, what was I thinking? I don't know what this is. And I don't know, you know, this

00:20:19is a loved book read by 15 million plus people and a film that won so many prizes. But actually

00:20:25it turned out all right.

00:20:26It's a bit like Alec Guinness in Bridge on the River Kwai, when he finally says, what have I

00:20:30done? What have I been about to stop the bridge being blown up, that moment of realisation?

00:20:35But you must have been thrilled at the reaction.

00:20:37Oh, so thrilled and so proud. Because on that first show, watching it with an audience is

00:20:42a totally different experience to just doing it on your own. So when we would watch it together

00:20:47with no one in the audience, you're thinking, oh, that doesn't work. This doesn't work.

00:20:50We need to change that. And then the audience comes in and it just, it changes it. It becomes

00:20:55electric in the room. And everybody's working the piece, all the different creatives, the

00:21:00cast. Everybody just put their top game into the place.

00:21:04And now we have great, I'm so reluctant to call them puppeteers because it's not even

00:21:09close to what they do. Having seen them in War Horse, I think if you describe to somebody,

00:21:14you know, who'd come through the age of Muffin the Mule and Bill and Ben and marionettes like

00:21:18that, that one day puppets could actually take your breath away, you wouldn't believe it.

00:21:24But with War Horse and with this, it's so emotional watching the way they operate. You really don't

00:21:29see the people who are operating them. Something happens.

00:21:32They breathe together.

00:21:33Yes.

00:21:33And watching how they learned to be the different animals is a skill in itself. And you're right,

00:21:40they're actor puppeteers, they're performers, they're collaborators. It's really emotional.

00:21:46And I think puppetry, as you say from Muffin the Mule, has just sort of graduated into this

00:21:50place that they can make the impossible happen on stage.

00:21:53Yeah. I remember being allowed to ride War Horse, Joey, actually sitting on it, but it

00:21:59moves like a horse. The confirmation was right. It doesn't just look like a horse, it feels

00:22:03like a horse when you're actually sitting on it.

00:22:05Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:06To come from acting, you know, trained at RADA, to come from that and then into riding,

00:22:12is a journey a path a lot of actors take because there's often a lot of downtime between acting,

00:22:18but to achieve the success you've achieved has been quite remarkable. And now you're keeping

00:22:23the acting going because at the moment you're in Wendy and Peter Pan for the RSC.

00:22:27I am.

00:22:28Tell us about that.

00:22:29So this is a production that was done 10 years ago at the RSC and has since had great

00:22:34revivals in Leeds and in Japan. But it's never come home to London because J.M. Barry's

00:22:39story is obviously a London story. It's a spectacular piece. I mean, I'm coming in for the first

00:22:45time playing Mrs. Darling and Ella Hickson has done the version, the adaptation, and it's

00:22:50so clever because it's really truthful and loyal to the original work, but it has a spin

00:22:56on it that is just about now and introduces the environment of 1910, you know, suffragettes

00:23:03and political situation in the background of London at the time. That's all kind of, it's

00:23:08not part of the story, but it's there. And the focus is on Wendy. So Wendy is definitely

00:23:13part of Peter's story. But in this, it's Wendy's story. And Ella has introduced something that

00:23:20makes sense for me for the story, really. There's a loss, there's a family loss in the

00:23:24Darling House. And that is what creates the need for Peter to come and for Wendy to go.

00:23:31Oh, it's a charm. I remember seeing it many, many, many, many years ago at the Leeds Grand,

00:23:37the original Peter Pan, with Alistair Simm as Captain Hook and Julia Lockwood as Peter Pan.

00:23:42But your Captain Hook and Mr. Darling, two parts played by the same person. You've got Toby

00:23:47Stevens.

00:23:48We have.

00:23:48He's not bad, is he?

00:23:49Oh, he's not half bad. He's amazing. And he's brilliant in both the roles. And it's

00:23:55going to be exhausting. I mean, he's going to be, I mean, he's fit anyway, but he's going

00:23:59to be fit at the end of this. It is constant changes and coming on and off. And it's delightful.

00:24:04It's really funny.

00:24:06You were born in this country. You were born in Birmingham. Your sister is Rita, Rita Chakrabarty,

00:24:10and we know from the news.

00:24:12Yeah.

00:24:12You then were taken by your parents back to India for a while. Did they want to go

00:24:17back to, you know, their own country?

00:24:19Yeah, my parents are from Kulkatha, and they always wanted to emigrate back. They never

00:24:23meant to stay here. So we emigrated back when I was three, for three months, and then we

00:24:28did it when I was 10, for 18 months. So that's the bit that I lived in Kulkatha, yeah, which

00:24:33was life-changing, really. And then we came back for educational reasons, and then they left

00:24:38when I was 19 again.

00:24:39From your own point of view, the acting is, you know, we've seen you in The Bill, we've

00:24:43seen you in lots of different things, particularly on television and on stage. But as well as

00:24:49adapting Life of Pi, you also wrote your own play. You wrote Red Velvet.

00:24:53I did, yeah.

00:24:53Your first play, and a huge success, and award-winning. Okay, so the nerves in terms of doing Life of

00:25:00Pi were sort of there. The nerves in doing your own play, you were responsible for everything,

00:25:04must have been even higher, weren't they?

00:25:06It was, although it was a very slow burn success. So it took me a really long time to get that

00:25:11production together. A, because it's based on a historical, a real person. So it took

00:25:17me 15 years of research to find out who Ira Aldridge was. And then it took about seven

00:25:21years to actually get the play on. So by the time I got it on, I was a bit tired. I was

00:25:25like, oh God, it's on, thank goodness, it's on. Get it done. Yeah, get it done. So when it

00:25:31was successful, I was really surprised, really surprised, but thrilled, because I'd had, with

00:25:37a real character, you feel, well, with this one particularly, I felt very responsible for

00:25:43him. Yeah. Yeah.

00:25:44Yeah. How was he received? In truth? Originally, in truth. Originally, he came over to England

00:25:50in 1824, and he played Othello at the Theatre Royal Covent Garden in 1833, which was a huge

00:25:56deal. It's like playing the National Theatre, the main actor at the National Theatre. And

00:26:00although he was very well received in the provinces in Britain, and he was really well received

00:26:04abroad, he went to Russia, Poland, Sweden, France. He toured internationally, and was the highest

00:26:09paid actor ever in Russia at the time, at the Bolshoi. But in London, we were voting about

00:26:17colonial rights, and so the reviews were pretty racist, and so he didn't play London again.

00:26:24Gosh.

00:26:24So it was mixed.

00:26:26Well, you kind of did right by him in the end, didn't you?

00:26:28Yeah, he came back to the London stage. Yeah, he came back to the London stage.

00:26:31Congratulations on what you've given us so far. Thank you.

00:26:33Keep doing it. I mean, it's just fascinating what you've achieved, and you've been, I hope,

00:26:37artistically well rewarded for it.

00:26:39Thank you very much.

00:26:40Thank you very much indeed.

00:26:42Time now for us to take a moment to enjoy all the extraordinary images that you've been

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00:28:39Still ahead, from Northern Ireland to the National Lottery to a passion for cricket and an in-depth

00:28:44knowledge of British Music Hall. Sir John Major on his achievements and his passions, and

00:28:50bringing the vibrancy of bonfire night in from the cold. Jonathan Mosley and the firework-inspired

00:28:55floral displays as dramatic as the real thing. I'll be back with Jonathan and his whiz-banger

00:29:01of a display. Right after this.

00:29:11Welcome back to Love Your Weekend. Coming up, his presence on the cast list is a hallmark

00:29:21of quality. A stalwart of some of our most dearly loved comedies and dramas from Notting Hill

00:29:27to W1A. Hugh Bonneville on the roles that propelled him to superstardom, and his latest foray as a

00:29:35children's author. And as American poet Dorothy Parker once confided, I like to have a martini,

00:29:40two at the very most. After three, I'm under the table. After four, I'm under my host. I shall have

00:29:47to heed her wise words today, as Tom Surge is here, with classic martinis given a modern twist.

00:29:54Before that, it's time for your Voice of Nature. Today, it's the turn of Darcy Bustle and the

00:30:00Fairies by William Allingham.

00:30:10Up the airy mountain, down the rushy glen, we darnn't go a-hunting for fear of little men.

00:30:20Wee folk, good folk, trooping all together. Green jacket, red cap, and white owl's feather.

00:30:33Down along the rocky shore, some make their home. They live on crispy pancakes of yellow tide foam.

00:30:50Thank you, Darcy. Describing the varied and capricious nature of fairies and fairy folklore.

00:31:00Now, bonfire night is fast approaching, marking an occasion when we as a nation celebrate with

00:31:06firework displays that illuminate the night sky with colour. But what if you're looking to create

00:31:12that same sparkle indoors? Here to show us how to create flower arrangements that pop with the same

00:31:19colour and energy, but minus the loud bangs and smoke. Welcome back. Florist, Jonathan Moseley,

00:31:26who's got a firework jumper on himself. Well, a little subtle. Freshly crocheted.

00:31:31Well, we've got the colours of the fireworks in the flowers today, Alan, and they really are quite

00:31:35riotous. So vibrant, so bright. And I don't know how you feel, but I always think a noreen looks like

00:31:41a firework just exploding. It does, and the fact that it sits in your border at the front of a

00:31:45border at home, where it lights the light, the leaves come out first, and then the flowers pop

00:31:50up at this time of year. You think, gosh, fancy you coming this late. Exactly. They're quite an

00:31:54unexpected pleasure, aren't they? Yeah. But I love them, Alan, and they've got a great vase life.

00:31:59They have. Really long-lasting. But I do think nature gives us fireworks at this time of year,

00:32:03because we're losing colour, aren't we, in the garden, and nature's becoming a little bit flat,

00:32:08and the leaves have been riotous with the colours, but they're starting to drop now.

00:32:12So any bits of colour that we can grab onto, I adore. So you've got pink simphry carpus there,

00:32:17is it? We've got some berries, because autumn's about berries, isn't it? And bonfire night,

00:32:21you know, traditionally, lots of berries around, like the wonderful blackberries, and of course

00:32:27the rowan berries and the crab apples. Slones. And I've just popped a few berries in there,

00:32:32Alan, because it's quite nice, I think, to work with berries, because again, they're long-lasting.

00:32:37Yeah, so you've got white snowberry, orangey-yellow pyracanthor, firethorn, and then rose hips.

00:32:44Yeah, a selection of rose hips in there. Lots of different ones. Oh, and you've got hypericum down

00:32:48the front here. Yeah, and the nice thing, Alan, with that sort of design is, you know, people could

00:32:52use little bottles, little jars from home to make something like that. Yeah, lovely. Look at these,

00:32:56all different. And the berries, Alan, and the grasses, they're going to go on for eight weeks easily.

00:33:02But this design, Alan, I'm inspired by my grandfather for this one. When I was a child,

00:33:06we didn't have organised bonfires. Grandfather always used to be the creator of the bonfire.

00:33:12And he used to start creating it two months before, and it was ginormous, absolutely enormous.

00:33:18And as a child, you know, I can remember the excitement of seeing him around sort of mid-September

00:33:24time, starting to build this pile in the garden. And week after week, it got larger and larger.

00:33:29And I was so excited for firework night to come.

00:33:33Yeah, the worry, of course, you know, if they're there for a long time, is that hedgehogs might

00:33:36be ibernating underneath. So if you can just sort of throw them about a bit and disturb them

00:33:40and say anything is alive and sort of there comes out.

00:33:43That's really a good point.

00:33:44I love the way you slipped in there. This thing that always looks so artificial, doesn't it?

00:33:49It looks unreal.

00:33:50Cali Carpa, these purple berries. I mean, they don't look as if nature could have made

00:33:55those. No, it's the most sensational colour, isn't it?

00:33:58And then these lilac purple berries.

00:34:00Oh, they're just gorgeous. And I love the way they're in the little blocks and groups.

00:34:03And it's almost like a rocket exploding that, isn't it?

00:34:06Similar, Alan, it's almost like a buried version of Liatris, which is that same sort of wonderful

00:34:12movement that it has with that shooting stem.

00:34:15And the thing about Liatris also is that the flowers open from the top downwards.

00:34:19It goes on the reverse, doesn't it?

00:34:19Most flowers, like delphiniums, they start at the bottom and they work on liensis.

00:34:24It's got this glorious name. It's called the Kansas Gay Feather.

00:34:28Which is so camp, but wonderful.

00:34:30But that's what it's called.

00:34:32Take a look at that. It's quite beautiful.

00:34:34It's gorgeous.

00:34:34This is Euphorbia fulgens.

00:34:36And it's coming into its own now as we embrace the winter months and the latter part of the year.

00:34:42And I couldn't not use these, Alan, because these are, again, just one of the nicest things of autumn.

00:34:48The guy who used to drive the tractor in the Parks Department nursery, who was on his tractor mowing grass for, you know, nine-tenths of the year.

00:34:57Yes.

00:34:58And he didn't know much about plants and flowers, but if ever anybody held up any flower at all and said,

00:35:03what's this? He would always say, Chinese lantern flower.

00:35:06That was his answer. Now he could say it and they'd be right.

00:35:08It'd be quite great.

00:35:09And the good thing with these, Alan, I can just sort of poke these into the twiggy pile and it doesn't matter if they don't go into water because they're going to dry out.

00:35:17They'll last for us.

00:35:18Now, you've got monks, oh dear. People worry about monks because it's very poisonous.

00:35:20Yeah, aconitum. Yeah, it is a toxic plant.

00:35:23As you'll be aware, it's the roots, isn't it, that's the sort of main toxic part.

00:35:28But if we're working with this, then always better to wash our hands and, you know, make sure it's not near young children or pets because you don't want anybody having a nibble on it.

00:35:36You'll have such delight when he turns this round because he's working on the side.

00:35:39It's almost like a firework. You're waiting for it to explode.

00:35:41Yeah, I know. Wait until it turns round and then you get the explosion.

00:35:44And just before it does explode, Alan, I'll just mention how wonderful gourds are at this time of year.

00:35:49And I've got some little decorative gourds there in top of that wirework basket.

00:35:54And I love celebrating the last few flowers from the garden.

00:35:58As we're entering into November time, there's not many things around, but rubecchias, until we get a sharp frost, they will keep going and going and going.

00:36:07But they really are proper autonnal colours.

00:36:09They're wonderful colours. I think they are such a great thing to go.

00:36:12That's an annual one, Alan, and just a packet of seeds give you so many stems.

00:36:16Have you sprayed these with gold?

00:36:18I have. So this is my little bit of sort of smoke wafting through the bonfire.

00:36:23I've got to have a very literal imagination for this.

00:36:26But this is a little bit of panicum grass that I've just sprayed with gold.

00:36:29So it's almost like the little embers flying up from the bonfire, dancing through this twiggy pile.

00:36:35I think we need to get you to turn this round.

00:36:37Well, I think we're about there. So are you ready, Alan, for that final finale of the fireworks?

00:36:42The big whoosh is a gozer.

00:36:43There it is. A whoosh of natural colour.

00:36:45Look at that. Jonathan, you're a magician.

00:36:47Thank you.

00:36:48Isn't that wonderful? And, you know, I'd rather have that in a box of fireworks.

00:36:52Me too, because the pleasure will last a lot longer.

00:36:54Exactly what I was going to say. Not here today and gone in a second.

00:36:57Absolutely.

00:36:57Don't you have it all week?

00:36:59Exactly, Alan.

00:37:00Isn't that wonderful?

00:37:00That is so beautiful. We're taking it in the barn so we can enjoy it later on. Glorious.

00:37:04Time now for the latest instalment of our Weekends With series, which sees us drop in on a famous face to disco how they unwind away from the spotlight.

00:37:19Last month, Martin and Shirley Kemp took us apple picking.

00:37:23But how does punk rock icon Toya while away her Sundays?

00:37:28It's a mystery, till now, as we recently joined her and her husband, Robert, at home in Worcestershire to find out more.

00:37:36It's a mystery. Oh, it's a mystery. I'm still searching for the clue. It's a mystery to me.

00:37:51I think the most important thing to us is our garden, which we absolutely adore.

00:37:57We're in the middle of a market town and we're right on the river.

00:38:01But we observe and follow the seasons very strongly because this is all flood plain.

00:38:07So how do you feel about the water and obeying how the water moves in the garden?

00:38:14There's no force like nature. I obey my wife firstly, nature second.

00:38:19That's how we spend our weekend.

00:38:23We have different interests.

00:38:24Well, our professional lives always took us apart to different continents.

00:38:29So an example of how different we are, because I'm insomniac and I'm always up by 2am.

00:38:38The house was lonely, it was empty and all I could do was go to my office and work and that was all I was doing.

00:38:44And I said to Robert, I'm getting a rabbit.

00:38:47This is Eno.

00:38:49Currently 7 kilos.

00:38:51He will be 9.

00:38:52He's 11 months old and he has an attitude.

00:38:57So we go to view a rabbit and we come back with 2 and they're brothers and they hate each other.

00:39:03So this has kind of made my life quite complex at home because we have to keep them apart all the time.

00:39:12Fripp, he's a gorgeous, gentle little bunny.

00:39:16And if they both have a biscuit, they're a little bit more civil.

00:39:19On a Saturday night, I can be playing to anything from 500 people to 30,000 people.

00:39:27And to come home, and these little guys just need a carrot and some kale.

00:39:33So my weekends here are outside.

00:39:36There were two beautiful bunny rabbits who I just loved so much, who ground me.

00:39:42You know, when I'm working too hard, when I'm thinking, oh, I've got a spare hour, I'll go and do the company accounts.

00:39:48I think, no, just spend time with these little bunnies because I am a workaholic.

00:39:53Well, that's one particular approach to relaxing.

00:39:56Have you even noticed?

00:39:58Yes, of course I noticed what my wife does.

00:40:01He's always in a book.

00:40:02So what I love about this tree is, as a child, Dad would bring me on the boat, past this tree, all my life.

00:40:13It's just, I love this tree.

00:40:16I come and give it a hug from time to time.

00:40:18Do you?

00:40:18Yes, I do.

00:40:19I just climb it.

00:40:20I might be too old to do that now.

00:40:23No, you're not.

00:40:27There you go.

00:40:28My wife's inner child continues to rock.

00:40:35If I don't feel like a child, I just go in the river and then I feel very young.

00:40:46When my little lovey is on the boat, she is in charge and she is completely free in her own world, the world which she's known since her childhood.

00:40:58When I was a child, I used to volunteer with my parents to run the locks on every Sunday.

00:41:06And I used to go to an old mill and break in and I would play underneath in the water.

00:41:12I now own that mill.

00:41:14This is my life.

00:41:16Working the land, working in water.

00:41:18This is the highest flood level I have ever seen.

00:41:27I think we're going to be okay.

00:41:28So at the height of my success in the 1980s, you'd find me on a caravan here or on a boat just hiding and no one would give the game away and I could have a normal life here.

00:41:43I mean, I love my audience.

00:41:44I love my music and I love the fact that here I am at 67 and I'm still touring.

00:41:49And that's fantastic, but I would do anything to get back every single night.

00:41:55Thanks, Toya and Robert.

00:42:06Great to see their passion for protecting our precious waterways.

00:42:10Coming up, Martinis and Hugh Bonneville.

00:42:14Well, it doesn't go much better than that, does it?

00:42:16And it's been claimed he was one of the late Queen's favourites, Sir John Major, on his warm relationship with Queen Elizabeth, his life at number 10 and his passions away from politics.

00:42:28I'll see you with Sir John right after the break.

00:42:44Welcome back.

00:42:45Coming up, the Earl himself, Hugh Bonneville, on saying farewell to everyone's favourite sumptuous period drama.

00:42:52And a drink that I think the Earl of Grantham would approve of.

00:42:55Tom Sergis turning up the style stakes in today's Best of British as martinis are on the menu, the ultimate in sophisticated indulgence.

00:43:04My next guest is one of Britain's best-known politicians, serving as Prime Minister from 1990 to 1997.

00:43:11recognised for his commitment to public service and the instrumental role he played in advancing peace in Northern Ireland.

00:43:19He also secured a record number of votes for the Conservatives to win the 1992 general election.

00:43:27A moment when the typically reserved man shared the emotion of his greatest triumph with the British public.

00:43:34After 16 months on an uncertain lease, Mr Major is already a different man.

00:43:39Downing Street is now, he says, home.

00:43:42Thank you very much indeed. I've only got one thing to say. It's nice to be back.

00:43:46The boost to his confidence was obvious as he strode into Downing Street, a street which is normally closed to the general public,

00:43:53but which today was opened up to let supporters and well-wishers come and say hello.

00:43:58Someone called for three cheers.

00:44:03To John Major, the fact that he's now been chosen by the people, albeit a minority of the electorate,

00:44:09rather than by the secret committee room votes of his fellow MPs, is important.

00:44:13I can now accept that the country have elected me in my own right to be Prime Minister.

00:44:19I'm immensely proud of that.

00:44:21I shall try and ensure that I reach the aspirations of people and that I let no one down.

00:44:27That is, I'm delighted to have it.

00:44:29John, you must recall the feeling at that time of, you know, walking up Downing Street

00:44:35knowing that you live there in a way legitimately or more legitimately than...

00:44:40And looking now at what happens in politics, nobody more than you knows the ups and downs of politics

00:44:47and the feelings of those in that seat of power.

00:44:50You must look at it now, reflecting on those times alongside the times of today.

00:44:56Well, my principal reflection looking at that bit of film was, was I really that young once?

00:45:01It was a very long time ago now, of course. It's over 30 years ago.

00:45:061992.

00:45:06But you do. Politics is a rollercoaster.

00:45:09There are some very good times and there are some very bad times

00:45:12and there's quite a lot of times in between that could go either way.

00:45:15But that's the nature of the game. You can't complain about it.

00:45:18It's what you choose to enter.

00:45:20When you were young, did you have aspirations from a really early age to be in government?

00:45:24I did. I did. I can tell you exactly from when.

00:45:27From the age of 13, I'd been to the House of Commons.

00:45:32A seat, tickets given to me by a local Labour MP, actually, Marcus Lipton.

00:45:38But I went to the House of Commons and when I walked into the house for the first time,

00:45:42the atmosphere gripped me.

00:45:45I was interested in history.

00:45:47It was one of the few things at school that I actually worked at.

00:45:50and I knew a lot about the history of the Commons,

00:45:54but suddenly it just reaches out and envelops you, or it did me.

00:45:59And I thought, this is where I wish to spend my life.

00:46:02You left school at 16.

00:46:04Your father, famously, a musical artist,

00:46:08and told brilliantly in your book,

00:46:10My Old Man, said Follard Van,

00:46:13all about your dad growing up.

00:46:15So you grew up in a household,

00:46:18very working class,

00:46:20as you always said, comfortable, but, you know,

00:46:22but working.

00:46:24And so you were in this milieu of real life,

00:46:28you know, in Brixton, growing up there as well.

00:46:30So, you know, although you became a Tory prime minister,

00:46:32your upbringing was very much

00:46:33in and among proper working class people.

00:46:37What swayed you to go Tory rather than Labour,

00:46:40which must have been most of the people around you?

00:46:43Well, that's quite complex, but at its most basic,

00:46:48I looked at the two...

00:46:49I think instinctively I was Conservative.

00:46:52Not extreme Conservative, but moderate Conservative.

00:46:56But when I looked at the political parties,

00:46:58I thought the one that is most concerned with aspiration,

00:47:02that opens doors for you to move from where you are

00:47:04to where you wish to be,

00:47:06seemed to be the Conservative Party.

00:47:08And I was dazzled by some of the politicians in the 50s,

00:47:11notably one man, Ian MacLeod.

00:47:14So is it, do you think, harder today to be a politician?

00:47:17I think it is harder.

00:47:19And it's mainly the advent of social media and 24-hour-a-day media.

00:47:24Those two things together have made life much more difficult for politicians.

00:47:29They're expected to have the answer to something complex

00:47:31that's just happened immediately.

00:47:33Yeah.

00:47:33And, of course, being forced to answer immediately.

00:47:36They answer casually and imperfectly.

00:47:39They really need some time to think.

00:47:41And they should be thinking forward, not back.

00:47:45Forward.

00:47:46Not, how do I repay the last hostile speech against me

00:47:49with a hostile speech against the person who made it.

00:47:52That's not politics.

00:47:54We need a kinder, gentler form of politics

00:47:58if we're really going to improve the status of the House of Commons

00:48:01and the public's view of politics.

00:48:04It does not help that politics is often,

00:48:07to such a very high extent,

00:48:10the subject of negative publicity.

00:48:12Some of it is deserved.

00:48:14Certainly, on many occasions,

00:48:16I think the hostility of the public and the media

00:48:18has been well deserved.

00:48:19But not always.

00:48:21What strikes me looking back

00:48:23is that the degree of agreement between the parties

00:48:27is much greater than you would possibly know.

00:48:30The disagreement is not

00:48:32we want more people to be well-housed,

00:48:34we want a better health service,

00:48:35we want our defence to be more secure.

00:48:37Every party would agree with that.

00:48:39The difference is on how you achieve it.

00:48:41And that's a point.

00:48:43That's why I think there are occasions

00:48:45where a coalition is a good idea.

00:48:47When a country is in particular trouble,

00:48:49it's not a bad idea

00:48:51if the main parties,

00:48:54well, you could put it this way,

00:48:55all have a finger in the blood.

00:48:57But if there's difficult things to be done,

00:48:59it's worth listening.

00:49:01There's often a case

00:49:02where you can look at your opponents,

00:49:04you may not agree with everything they say,

00:49:06but part of what they say will be justified

00:49:08and part of it will be right.

00:49:11That's why we mustn't move to the extremes

00:49:14of the far right or the far left

00:49:16because they are cut off from the mainstream.

00:49:20And once you're cut off from the mainstream,

00:49:22you get a very angry and aggrieved nation.

00:49:26And we are at this moment...

00:49:27Angry and aggrieved.

00:49:28Angry and aggrieved as a nation.

00:49:30There is that famous saying that says,

00:49:33all political careers end in failure.

00:49:36You must look back with great pleasure and pride

00:49:38on the Northern Ireland Agreement

00:49:40and the creation of the National Lottery.

00:49:42Two great achievements, though.

00:49:43You must be really pleased about those two.

00:49:44Well, the lottery figure is now over 50 billion.

00:49:46Gosh.

00:49:47And that isn't prizes to prize winners.

00:49:49That's separate.

00:49:50Yeah.

00:49:50This is to good causes.

00:49:54And it hasn't all gone to great big causes

00:49:56like opera houses and millennium stadiums.

00:49:59The vast bulk of the money

00:50:00has gone in relatively small amounts

00:50:03to villages in every part of our country.

00:50:05And Northern Ireland was such a long-running thing.

00:50:08It must have seemed at the time completely insoluble.

00:50:12It did look like it,

00:50:14but I didn't believe it was insoluble.

00:50:17And neither did Albert Reynolds,

00:50:18whom I came to know very well,

00:50:20who was by then the Taoiseach

00:50:22in the Republic of Ireland.

00:50:24And I remember how we began it.

00:50:27He came over for a visit

00:50:28and we talked about the problems of Northern Ireland.

00:50:32And I remember saying to him very clearly,

00:50:34if this violence had been going on

00:50:36in any county in England,

00:50:38we would not have tolerated it.

00:50:40We shouldn't tolerate it in Northern Ireland.

00:50:42And he agreed.

00:50:44And we decided we would have a go

00:50:45at starting a peace process,

00:50:47which we did.

00:50:48We continued for a couple of years

00:50:51until Albert lost his position as Taoiseach

00:50:53and then with his successor.

00:50:55And we were within stretching distance.

00:50:57We weren't there with the peace agreement,

00:50:59but we got a very long way towards it.

00:51:01And then I rather think the IRA stopped negotiating about 1996

00:51:08because the hostility they had to the Conservative Party

00:51:12because of things like the hunger strikes

00:51:14and Bobby Sands was visceral.

00:51:17and I don't think they wanted to proceed.

00:51:21They thought that Labour would win the next election

00:51:24and in that, of course, they were quite right.

00:51:26And I think they thought they would be more agreeable

00:51:30for their volunteers if they reached an agreement

00:51:32with the Labour Party.

00:51:35And, of course, the Labour Party,

00:51:36Tony Blair and his colleagues,

00:51:38picked up where we were

00:51:39and settled an agreement

00:51:42which has utterly changed the face.

00:51:44Occasionally there are problems

00:51:46and a little bit of violence moves.

00:51:48But, by and large,

00:51:50Northern Ireland is a different place

00:51:52from anything anyone imagined in the early 90s.

00:51:55During your time as PM,

00:51:57you had the weekly audience with Majesty the Queen.

00:52:01We've got some footage here of you at Balmoral

00:52:03and a remarkable lady

00:52:04and we'll talk about your relationship with her.

00:52:08The feeling in Moscow

00:52:09in the period I was there was just astonishing.

00:52:12It was actually like living with history.

00:52:15One was in the middle of a meeting

00:52:17and somebody burst into a room and said,

00:52:19I've just finished talking to Gorbachev

00:52:21or Yeltsin or Solayev

00:52:23and this is what they're going to do.

00:52:25I mean, certainly here one can't take it in

00:52:26but there it must be even more traumatic, mustn't it?

00:52:30Well, it was absolutely amazing.

00:52:32I laid a wreath near the Kremlin

00:52:35at the site where the three demonstrators

00:52:38were crushed and killed

00:52:39and there were huge crowds there

00:52:41and I had the opportunity of stopping

00:52:43to talk to some of them.

00:52:44Not too many of them spoke English.

00:52:46I found one man who spoke beautiful English

00:52:49and I asked him how he felt

00:52:50and he said he was extremely interested

00:52:52but he came from Wokie.

00:52:56That's the sort of thing that happens to me

00:52:58when I talk in a crowd.

00:52:59You see, that's so rare to see

00:53:02these meetings which are never talked about.

00:53:05You keep your counsel as indeed you should

00:53:08but wonderful to see that relaxed atmosphere

00:53:13between you and the late Queen

00:53:15and the wisdom that she has there

00:53:17which in terms of sovereigns and now the King,

00:53:20of course, he's been involved

00:53:21since he was in his teens

00:53:23of seeing things come along.

00:53:25Such a useful thing.

00:53:26I should think a bit of a safety valve

00:53:28for a Prime Minister, isn't it?

00:53:29To have the one person

00:53:30who knows how difficult it is up here somewhere.

00:53:33Well, the monarch

00:53:34is the one person

00:53:36the Prime Minister can absolutely talk to

00:53:38in perfect confidence.

00:53:39I don't propose to talk about

00:53:41what the Queen and I talked about.

00:53:42I'll say two things about it.

00:53:44Firstly, my meetings were expected

00:53:45to last three quarters of an hour every week.

00:53:48They were rarely under an hour.

00:53:50I think we averaged about an hour and a quarter.

00:53:53Secondly, they were fun.

00:53:54It wasn't just grisly business

00:53:57about this or that particular topic.

00:54:00There was a lot of gossip.

00:54:01There was a lot of looking forward

00:54:03not to what had happened,

00:54:04what was going right or going wrong,

00:54:06but what we thought might happen in the future.

00:54:08And there was a lot about people.

00:54:10All of those were there.

00:54:12And the only audience were the Corgis,

00:54:15invariably there,

00:54:16invariably sitting in a sort of semicircle,

00:54:19unbugged, fortunately,

00:54:21or all our secrets would be out.

00:54:23But it was a part of the week

00:54:25that I looked forward to.

00:54:27She has...

00:54:29You would be surprised, I think,

00:54:31to know how much she knew

00:54:33and understood about how people lived

00:54:36in all levels of income.

00:54:40She knew, not only reading the red boxes

00:54:43and knew what was going on

00:54:44in terms of politics and diplomacy,

00:54:47but in terms of the problems

00:54:49that people faced and how they lived.

00:54:52And the king is the same.

00:54:54I haven't had these discussions with the king,

00:54:57but I do think he's got off to a fabulous style.

00:55:00You have become, like it or not,

00:55:03an elder statesman,

00:55:04if not the elder statesman of the UK.

00:55:06Oldest, is the word you're searching for.

00:55:09Senior.

00:55:10But you're listened to.

00:55:12And was there a decision where you thought,

00:55:14either I go away and pipe down now,

00:55:16or I can contribute?

00:55:18Was there a moment that you remember

00:55:19thinking, you know, I will say something?

00:55:21Because I often think

00:55:23when retired headers of the armed forces

00:55:25start chipping in

00:55:26to the current heads of the armed forces,

00:55:28the current heads must think,

00:55:29well, you've had your turn,

00:55:30sit down quietly.

00:55:31You've managed to avoid that kind of criticism

00:55:33by offering wisdom, I think, really,

00:55:36which is now apolitical, in a way,

00:55:37in terms of it's not a lie to one particular party,

00:55:39but it's a lie to the country.

00:55:41Well, I decided

00:55:43I lost the election

00:55:46rather heavily

00:55:47in 1997.

00:55:49I left Parliament in 2001.

00:55:52And I thought, really,

00:55:53there's a new generation there.

00:55:55I'm not going to get into

00:55:57the day-to-day scruffy nature

00:55:59of miserable parliamentary disputes

00:56:01and parliamentary debates.

00:56:02But there are things

00:56:03relating to the well-being

00:56:04of the nation

00:56:05or international matters.

00:56:07If I think I have a contribution to make,

00:56:10I will contribute,

00:56:11but rarely.

00:56:12You didn't go into the House of Lords?

00:56:14No.

00:56:14It had no appeal for me at all.

00:56:16I mean, I think the House of Lords

00:56:17is a remarkable place.

00:56:20But it...

00:56:20I had left politics

00:56:23when I left the House of Commons.

00:56:25There's a great world outside.

00:56:27Mostly cricket?

00:56:28Well, a lot of it,

00:56:29but not only that.

00:56:32I mean, there are all sorts

00:56:33of other things that I...

00:56:34It's all sports, really.

00:56:35Cricket is my premier sport.

00:56:37But there are many other things I do.

00:56:39I love the theatre.

00:56:41I love music.

00:56:43I've learned a lot travelling.

00:56:44You must tell me

00:56:45the last time you drove a car.

00:56:471989.

00:56:50Lucky man.

00:56:50And the traffic statistics

00:56:53are far better

00:56:54that I'm not on the road.

00:56:57Thank you very much, Tom.

00:56:58Now, coming up,

00:57:00Tales from the Martini Glass.

00:57:01It must be best of British time.

00:57:03Tom Surge is serving

00:57:04his finest versions

00:57:05of the classic cocktail,

00:57:06each with a famous yarn

00:57:08to go with it.

00:57:09And from the Crawley family estate

00:57:11to my own country pile,

00:57:12swapping Downton Abbey

00:57:13for Manor Farm actor

00:57:15Hugh Bonneville

00:57:16who joins me right after this.

00:57:17Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.

00:57:32Still ahead.

00:57:33Immortalised by James Bond.

00:57:35Served by Tom Surge.

00:57:37Well, you can of it all, can you?

00:57:39Tom's back behind the piano bar

00:57:41and he has a melange of martinis

00:57:43chilling till his guests arrive.

00:57:45Not long now, Tom.

00:57:46On our way.

00:57:47But first,

00:57:48it's like saying farewell

00:57:49to an old family friend.

00:57:51As the Crawley household

00:57:53faces a changing world,

00:57:55secrets are revealed,

00:57:56old flames rekindled,

00:57:58and long-standing loyalties tested

00:58:00when tradition meets transformation

00:58:03and every ending opens a new beginning.

00:58:09It's hard to accept

00:58:10that it's time to go.

00:58:13Your friendship has never been

00:58:15more important to all of us.

00:58:18But the future of Downton Abbey

00:58:21is now in Mary's hands.

00:58:25You will be a sensation.

00:58:26Lady Mary must go now.

00:58:47She's divorced.

00:58:50I'm very sorry.

00:58:51I shouldn't have come.

00:58:52Oh, almost as much frisson

00:59:00as when Mr Moseley

00:59:01curtsied to Queen Mary.

00:59:03One of our favourite moments.

00:59:0515 years it's been.

00:59:06I mean, from our point of view

00:59:08as an audience,

00:59:09it's flown by.

00:59:10All those series

00:59:11and then three films

00:59:12and finally we say goodbye

00:59:14to the Crawley.

00:59:14Well, like you just said,

00:59:15it's like a family friend

00:59:17who perhaps doesn't know

00:59:18when to leave,

00:59:19but we finally have.

00:59:20Without doing the washing up.

00:59:24But no idea, presumably,

00:59:26when you started doing it

00:59:27quite what a big hit

00:59:28it would become.

00:59:29You know, when you sent

00:59:30a script like that,

00:59:31Julian Fellows,

00:59:32Gosford Park,

00:59:33you know, good reputation,

00:59:34got an Oscar for that.

00:59:36What did you think

00:59:36when you saw it first off?

00:59:38Well, when I read it first,

00:59:40before it was cast,

00:59:41the characters popped off

00:59:43the page and were very vivid,

00:59:44which isn't always the case.

00:59:45Sometimes the characters

00:59:46can be interchangeable,

00:59:47but everyone had

00:59:48a distinct voice

00:59:49and I think a lot of that's

00:59:51down to the fact

00:59:52that Julian Fellows

00:59:52is an actor himself

00:59:53and so there's a very good ear

00:59:54for dialogue and character

00:59:56and also I couldn't put it down

00:59:58when I got to the last page.

00:59:59I wanted, like everybody else,

01:00:00I wanted to know

01:00:00what happened next.

01:00:01So it had that soap

01:00:02page turning quality

01:00:03as well as rich characters

01:00:05you enjoyed spending time with.

01:00:06I remember Ian Fleming saying

01:00:08the secret of writing a good novel

01:00:10and the same strip play

01:00:11is just to keep people

01:00:12wanting to turn the page,

01:00:14wanting to find out

01:00:15what happens next.

01:00:15Yeah, yeah.

01:00:16And they very cleverly

01:00:17kept that going.

01:00:18You had a cast,

01:00:20a lovely cast,

01:00:20all of whom become

01:00:21friends of ours,

01:00:22but one in particular,

01:00:24Dame Maggie Smith,

01:00:25who absolutely lit up the screen

01:00:28and we were all in awe of her.

01:00:30I suspect you were pretty much

01:00:32in awe of her too

01:00:32because she was also working

01:00:33with another great screen icon,

01:00:36Shirley MacLaine.

01:00:38What have you been up to?

01:00:39As a matter of fact,

01:00:40I've found myself

01:00:41a new occupation,

01:00:43but I'm afraid Cousin Violet

01:00:44doesn't think it's quite appropriate.

01:00:46Can we talk about it afterwards?

01:00:48Are there still forbidden subjects

01:00:50in 1920?

01:00:51I can't believe this.

01:00:54I speak of taste

01:00:55rather than law.

01:00:57Well, it's not my taste.

01:00:58What about you, Cora?

01:01:01I agree with my ma.

01:01:03Some subjects

01:01:03are not suitable

01:01:04for every ear.

01:01:06Oh,

01:01:07pas de vaux-les-domestique.

01:01:10Come on, my dear.

01:01:11Carson and Alfred

01:01:12know more about life

01:01:13than we ever will.

01:01:15Can't we stop this?

01:01:17How?

01:01:18It's like a runaway train.

01:01:21Working with two grand dones

01:01:24in theatres,

01:01:24I mean,

01:01:25you're sitting there,

01:01:26you know,

01:01:26it's rather like

01:01:27watching verbal ping-pong,

01:01:28isn't it?

01:01:28It really is.

01:01:29But, you know,

01:01:30yes, you're playing a character,

01:01:31but even so,

01:01:32daunting people

01:01:32to act with that.

01:01:33Oh,

01:01:33and they were wondering,

01:01:34you know,

01:01:34I'd forgotten that

01:01:35Dan Stevens was still in,

01:01:37so season three,

01:01:38I thought it was later,

01:01:39but anyway,

01:01:39they were both great titans,

01:01:41obviously,

01:01:41of the screen,

01:01:42and sitting there

01:01:43in between setups

01:01:44and just thinking,

01:01:45my gosh,

01:01:46you work with,

01:01:46you know,

01:01:46Billy Wilder

01:01:47and Jack Lemmon

01:01:49on the one hand

01:01:50and, you know,

01:01:51Maggie having worked

01:01:52with Olivier

01:01:52and all the other greats

01:01:54and won two Oscars.

01:01:55It was quite an experience

01:01:57having them both there.

01:01:58And I'll never forget

01:01:58Shirley teaching

01:02:00Michelle Dockery

01:02:01and Laura Carmichael,

01:02:02my two screen,

01:02:03two of my screen daughters,

01:02:04some Bob Fosse moves

01:02:06from, you know,

01:02:06when she was on Broadway.

01:02:08I mean,

01:02:08it was great to see this,

01:02:09you know,

01:02:10these two legends

01:02:10just, A,

01:02:12sparring with us

01:02:13or rather educating us,

01:02:14our generation,

01:02:16but also having a twinkle

01:02:17with each other.

01:02:18It was great.

01:02:18They'll never forget that.

01:02:19And interesting for you

01:02:20watching then

01:02:22when the show started,

01:02:23Unknowns,

01:02:24Michelle Dockery

01:02:25and Laura Carmichael,

01:02:26you know,

01:02:27Unknown actually,

01:02:28first jobs really.

01:02:29So for them to be

01:02:30in such august company,

01:02:32particularly with Dame Maggie,

01:02:34who could be quite fearsome.

01:02:36I met her once or twice

01:02:37and she was actually,

01:02:38I actually really enjoyed

01:02:39being with her,

01:02:39but testing,

01:02:41you know.

01:02:41Oh, yes.

01:02:42Exactly.

01:02:43Yeah.

01:02:43Every new director,

01:02:44she'd test out

01:02:45on the first day

01:02:46and sort of virtually say,

01:02:47oh, we're doing it

01:02:48like that, aren't we?

01:02:49You know,

01:02:49and she was,

01:02:52yeah,

01:02:52she was quite a force,

01:02:53but, you know,

01:02:54I mean,

01:02:54just even that,

01:02:55one of the,

01:02:55a couple of those lines,

01:02:56the inflections she uses,

01:02:57which, you know,

01:02:58just really make the lines sing.

01:03:00It's just the magic

01:03:01of technique and talent.

01:03:02They had an auction

01:03:03a month or so ago

01:03:05of props

01:03:06and costumes for it,

01:03:07including your suit,

01:03:08which I was quite,

01:03:09tempted by,

01:03:10but now I realise

01:03:11we're a slightly different builder.

01:03:13So I didn't go for it,

01:03:14but Maggie's walking cane

01:03:16went for about 28,000 or something.

01:03:18I couldn't believe it.

01:03:19It's only made out of plywood

01:03:20or something,

01:03:20but it is amazing.

01:03:22I went to see the exhibition of it

01:03:23and I found it rather touching

01:03:24because it was the first time

01:03:26I'd seen all the,

01:03:27so many bits of memorabilia

01:03:28in one place

01:03:29and to see the passion

01:03:31with which people

01:03:32were bidding for it

01:03:33and how much the show meant

01:03:34or a piece of the show

01:03:35meant to them

01:03:36was really lovely

01:03:37and I was particularly pleased

01:03:39that people got to see

01:03:40up close the art department's work,

01:03:42the letters

01:03:42and the telegrams

01:03:43and all the things

01:03:44that the camera

01:03:45doesn't really see close up,

01:03:46but we all did on set.

01:03:48All these things

01:03:49that really gave it

01:03:49a touch of authenticity

01:03:52that even though

01:03:53we're in a fake environment

01:03:54that really added

01:03:55to what we were doing on set

01:03:57and so for the visitors

01:03:59to come and see that

01:04:00and go,

01:04:00oh my gosh,

01:04:01there's a letter

01:04:01from Lady Rose

01:04:02explaining that she's in

01:04:03wherever she is

01:04:04on her trip abroad

01:04:06or Tom Branson

01:04:08talking about his car firm

01:04:09and there I am

01:04:10at breakfast reading it

01:04:11and the camera never sees it

01:04:13and I was always so blown away

01:04:15by that sort of detail.

01:04:16in the show.

01:04:18Talking of things you don't see,

01:04:21Paddington,

01:04:23whom you never saw

01:04:24or if you did,

01:04:25he didn't move much.

01:04:26That's been a wonderful

01:04:28series of films there

01:04:30which have brought

01:04:31Michael Bond's Bear to life

01:04:32and you got to meet Michael,

01:04:34I think,

01:04:34before he died.

01:04:35Lovely man

01:04:36with those glorious points.

01:04:37Oh yes,

01:04:37he was a dear man

01:04:39and we were all very nervous

01:04:41and this is a great credit

01:04:42to David Heyman,

01:04:43the producer

01:04:44who did the Harry Potter films

01:04:46as well

01:04:47and Rosie Allison,

01:04:48our principal producer

01:04:49who,

01:04:50you know,

01:04:50we all cared so much

01:04:51about getting it right

01:04:52for him really.

01:04:53It's like trying to,

01:04:54you know,

01:04:54please your parents,

01:04:55get it right

01:04:56and we were so touched

01:04:58when he came out

01:04:59of the first screening

01:04:59of the first film

01:05:00and said,

01:05:00I came,

01:05:01I saw,

01:05:02before I was conquered

01:05:03which was very diplomatic

01:05:05of him

01:05:05even if he hated it

01:05:06but no,

01:05:08he passed away

01:05:08on the final day

01:05:09of shooting

01:05:09on the second film

01:05:10but his spirit

01:05:12is very much there,

01:05:13particularly in the second film

01:05:14I think

01:05:14and he appears

01:05:15as a cameo

01:05:16in the first,

01:05:17raising a glass of wine

01:05:18to his creation

01:05:19who goes by in a taxi

01:05:20which is rather lovely.

01:05:21and beautifully voiced

01:05:23by Ben Whishaw.

01:05:24Here we are.

01:05:28Left a bit.

01:05:31Right a bit.

01:05:34Oh, there are a lot of rocks.

01:05:36Perry,

01:05:37but what on earth

01:05:38are you doing in there?

01:05:39I appear to be driving the boat,

01:05:41Mrs Brown.

01:05:42But where's Gina?

01:05:43She's not here.

01:05:45I don't think Mr Hunter's here either.

01:05:46Cunningham,

01:05:47put it in reverse.

01:05:47Put the boat in reverse.

01:05:49Good idea.

01:05:50Reverse.

01:05:52That will do it.

01:05:56It's faster!

01:06:02Now you're going to tell me

01:06:03that you weren't on a river

01:06:04in Peru, aren't you?

01:06:05You're going to ruin

01:06:06the impression

01:06:07that I had when you...

01:06:08Well, we got wet.

01:06:09Put it that way.

01:06:11And I'm sure it says

01:06:12wet in Peru

01:06:12as it is in Boreham Wood.

01:06:15And also, presumably,

01:06:17you got to work only with...

01:06:18Did you get the voice

01:06:19of Ben Whishaw?

01:06:20Because you don't get the movement

01:06:22and all that.

01:06:22No, it's a complicated process.

01:06:24Ben records, I think,

01:06:26a sort of guide track.

01:06:27But we actually have an actor

01:06:30who provides the voice

01:06:32as well as having

01:06:33physical representations

01:06:34of the bear.

01:06:35Because I do need

01:06:35to break it to the audience

01:06:36that sometimes

01:06:36the bear doesn't turn up.

01:06:38And so we have

01:06:39various stand-ins

01:06:40and the bear emerges

01:06:43from its trailer

01:06:44about 3pm

01:06:45for its close-up.

01:06:46But that's all

01:06:47you're getting that day.

01:06:48You've had, well,

01:06:49I can say the great good fortune

01:06:50to be in so many years,

01:06:51but then they've had

01:06:52the great good fortune

01:06:53to have you.

01:06:53And one of the things

01:06:54that really blew us all the way

01:06:55and surprised us hugely

01:06:57was that the fact

01:06:58that the BBC put on

01:06:59a programme called W1A,

01:07:01which actually took

01:07:02the mickey out of themselves.

01:07:04Did they know

01:07:05what they were letting

01:07:06themselves in for with this?

01:07:07Because W1A,

01:07:08in which I didn't realise

01:07:09I was going to have

01:07:10a little role.

01:07:11However, W1A,

01:07:13let's have a look,

01:07:13which is so cracking.

01:07:14You're playing head of...

01:07:16I'm head of values.

01:07:18Values.

01:07:18At the BBC.

01:07:19And you really,

01:07:20you were the only kind of

01:07:22what you might call

01:07:22real ordinary person.

01:07:24You were us.

01:07:24You were every man, really,

01:07:25weren't you, in this role?

01:07:26Yeah, I think it sort of

01:07:28works on many levels

01:07:29because it's not really

01:07:30about the BBC,

01:07:31it's about management.

01:07:32And I think anyone

01:07:33who's sat on a village hall

01:07:35committee or a FTSE 100

01:07:36boardroom knows that

01:07:39certain people around the

01:07:40table say they're going

01:07:40to do something by Thursday

01:07:41but really haven't

01:07:42a chance of doing so

01:07:43or aren't listening

01:07:44or will do the wrong thing.

01:07:46And Ian Fletcher

01:07:47is our sort of guide

01:07:47through these chicanes

01:07:50of perhaps educated idiots

01:07:53around one.

01:07:54Here we are.

01:07:54Let's have a look

01:07:55at him in action.

01:07:56So like peanut and butter,

01:07:58two things,

01:07:59peanut butter one thing.

01:08:00Yes.

01:08:00Yes, no, very strong.

01:08:01BBC and Wimbledon,

01:08:03two things,

01:08:04BBC Wimbledon,

01:08:05one thing.

01:08:05Yes, no,

01:08:06I think we've got that.

01:08:07No, sure,

01:08:07it's like what's not to get.

01:08:08And this is an area

01:08:09where you could have

01:08:09some ideas?

01:08:10Well, hang on.

01:08:11Where we could have ideas?

01:08:12Yes.

01:08:12Like there are areas

01:08:13we don't.

01:08:14Right.

01:08:14Okay, good.

01:08:15Shall we just have a think

01:08:16about exactly how

01:08:17we want to play this?

01:08:17The fact is this is important.

01:08:19Yes.

01:08:19I've already made that clear.

01:08:20Yes, no, brilliant.

01:08:21But Siobhan,

01:08:22I don't want to spoil this party

01:08:23we're all having now,

01:08:24but you can actually

01:08:25have other kinds of butter.

01:08:27Excuse me?

01:08:27I don't believe this.

01:08:28You can have like brandy butter

01:08:29or just ordinary butter.

01:08:31It doesn't have to be peanut.

01:08:32There's no such thing

01:08:33as monkey butter, okay?

01:08:34What?

01:08:35Brilliant.

01:08:35Get over it.

01:08:36Brilliant.

01:08:36Very strong.

01:08:39How the dickens,

01:08:40you all learned

01:08:42this quick-fire dialogue.

01:08:44There's no room

01:08:45for any kind of...

01:08:47No, it's genuinely

01:08:49the hardest job

01:08:50I've ever done

01:08:50and every incarnation of it,

01:08:52we did the first one

01:08:53was 2012,

01:08:54all about the Olympics

01:08:55and then we did W1A

01:08:56and I swore I'd never do it again

01:08:58because I find it impossible

01:08:59to learn

01:08:59because it is nonsensical,

01:09:01most of it.

01:09:02And the dialogue,

01:09:02unlike something like

01:09:03The Thick of It

01:09:03where they do have

01:09:04an element of improvisation,

01:09:06this is entirely scripted.

01:09:08Every um and uh is scripted

01:09:09and it's all very rhythmical.

01:09:10So I swore I'd never do it again.

01:09:12So we've just done a show

01:09:13called 2026

01:09:14which is about

01:09:15a major international football

01:09:16tournament next year

01:09:17which will be coming

01:09:18to your screens

01:09:19in April, May, I guess.

01:09:20Wonderful.

01:09:21I'm going to be solving logic now

01:09:22because I'm going to show a clip

01:09:23which in our household

01:09:24is famous

01:09:25because we love this

01:09:26because having met Julia Roberts

01:09:28and having met you

01:09:30and seen you in Notting Hill

01:09:32making this wonderful gaffe

01:09:33with Julia Roberts,

01:09:35you just love this

01:09:36as much as I do, I hope.

01:09:38Always imagined

01:09:39it's a pretty tough job

01:09:40though, acting.

01:09:40I mean, the wages

01:09:41are a scandal, aren't they?

01:09:42They can be.

01:09:43I see friends from university.

01:09:45Clever chaps.

01:09:46Been in the business

01:09:47longer than you.

01:09:48They're scraping by

01:09:49on seven, eight thousand a year.

01:09:52It's no life.

01:09:55What sort of acting do you do?

01:09:57Films, mainly.

01:10:00Oh, splendid.

01:10:01Oh, well done.

01:10:02How's the pay in movies?

01:10:05I mean, last film you did,

01:10:08what did you get paid?

01:10:10Fifteen million dollars.

01:10:11Right.

01:10:18It's, because it's Julia Roberts

01:10:20that you're doing to it then,

01:10:21because you're having to be a boss,

01:10:23there's a strange chemistry

01:10:25between the two of you

01:10:26doing that.

01:10:26There's kind of surreality

01:10:28and reality to it,

01:10:29if that makes any sense at all.

01:10:31Fun to play with, Julia.

01:10:32It was actually,

01:10:33but it was quite interesting

01:10:36because in the rehearsals,

01:10:38in the original script

01:10:39it was ten million dollars

01:10:41and then in rehearsal

01:10:42she changed it to 12 million

01:10:43and then on that final close-up

01:10:46of hers she changed it

01:10:48to 15 million

01:10:48and when we finished the shot

01:10:50I said, out of interest,

01:10:52why did you change it?

01:10:52And she said,

01:10:53I was kind of tired of lowballing

01:10:54and then a week later

01:10:56it was announced

01:10:57she was getting 20 million

01:10:58for Erin Brockovich.

01:10:59so, you know,

01:11:00it's a different sphere.

01:11:01But she was lovely.

01:11:02Still underplayed.

01:11:03Well, it's good of you though

01:11:04to have another string to your bow

01:11:05because we now have

01:11:07Hugh Bonneville,

01:11:08Rory Sparks

01:11:09and The Elephant in the Room.

01:11:10So, first, children's book.

01:11:12Yeah.

01:11:13Read your memoirs,

01:11:14you know,

01:11:14on the piano,

01:11:15under the piano.

01:11:16But children's books,

01:11:17have you always had a yen

01:11:18to write children's books?

01:11:19Absolutely not.

01:11:21It came out of the blue rather

01:11:22or came out from a colleague

01:11:24of my literary agent

01:11:25who, in my memoir,

01:11:27I'd written,

01:11:29I have no idea about writing

01:11:30and they'd commissioned,

01:11:31they'd have said

01:11:32that we want 100,000 words.

01:11:34So I gave them 165,000

01:11:35thinking they'd be thrilled

01:11:36because they're getting

01:11:37nearly two for the price of one.

01:11:39And I said,

01:11:40well, what's the problem?

01:11:41They said,

01:11:41well, we're on page 100

01:11:42but you're still only eight.

01:11:43Could we just move

01:11:44the narrative on a bit,

01:11:45you know?

01:11:46And so I cut out

01:11:47huge amounts of stuff

01:11:48and for some reason

01:11:49I'd written really vividly

01:11:51and from memory

01:11:52about my childhood.

01:11:54And so a colleague

01:11:54of my age and said,

01:11:55well, why not develop

01:11:56that into, you know,

01:11:57into a world

01:11:58that you clearly

01:11:59remember it well

01:12:00and liked visiting in

01:12:02and it's quite funny

01:12:02and innocent pranks

01:12:04and all that sort of thing.

01:12:05So that's really

01:12:06where it sprung from.

01:12:07So there's a degree

01:12:07of autobiography.

01:12:08Well, there sort of is.

01:12:09I mean, we had,

01:12:10back in the day

01:12:11there was Billy Smart Circus

01:12:12that used to come

01:12:13and pitch on Blackheath

01:12:14where I grew up

01:12:15and the children

01:12:16from the school,

01:12:17from the circus

01:12:18would come and be

01:12:19in our school

01:12:19for a month or so

01:12:20or have along

01:12:20they were in town

01:12:21and occasionally

01:12:22they'd come to school

01:12:23on an elephant

01:12:24and which, you know,

01:12:25it was quite different

01:12:26days then.

01:12:28And so,

01:12:29and then another example

01:12:31was I obviously

01:12:32dug a grave

01:12:33for my sister

01:12:33because she needed

01:12:34to be got rid of

01:12:35when I was about nine

01:12:36and so these threads

01:12:38sort of came together

01:12:39and I sort of enjoyed

01:12:41exploring a bit

01:12:43of my childhood

01:12:44that some of it

01:12:44had been locked away

01:12:45and you know

01:12:45what it's like

01:12:46when you're writing

01:12:46you really do find

01:12:48your imagination

01:12:49takes over

01:12:50and so you begin

01:12:51to blur fiction

01:12:51and reality

01:12:52quite easily.

01:12:53I know, Hugh,

01:12:54you also champion

01:12:55young authors

01:12:57coming along,

01:12:57particularly young

01:12:58children's authors.

01:12:59We have one

01:12:59with us today,

01:13:00Sam Sajman.

01:13:00Sam, come in.

01:13:01Sam, you've done

01:13:02a series of children's books.

01:13:03Isaac Turner

01:13:05investigates the

01:13:05clockwork conspiracy.

01:13:07I've got to read back

01:13:08because it says

01:13:08aspiring inventor

01:13:09Isaac Turner

01:13:10lives with his dad,

01:13:11the urologist

01:13:12in charge of Big Ben

01:13:13but when his father

01:13:15vanishes from the

01:13:15belfry on the night

01:13:16the clocks go back

01:13:17leaving behind

01:13:18only a smashed

01:13:19pocket watch

01:13:20and a cryptic message

01:13:21Isaac determines

01:13:22to find him.

01:13:23I mean, it's like that.

01:13:24You know, you read

01:13:25the first place

01:13:26and think,

01:13:26oh, yes,

01:13:27and you just want

01:13:28to go on, don't you?

01:13:29Have you always been

01:13:30children's writer, Sam?

01:13:31I've been a children's

01:13:33writer for about

01:13:33five years now.

01:13:34I've written stories

01:13:35ever since I was a kid

01:13:36but I, much like you,

01:13:37never thought,

01:13:37oh, I want to grow up

01:13:38and be a children's

01:13:39writer.

01:13:39I thought I wanted

01:13:40to write big,

01:13:41serious, important

01:13:42books for grown-ups

01:13:43and then those

01:13:44ended up being

01:13:45quite boring

01:13:45and the real thrill

01:13:47is when you get

01:13:47to write for children

01:13:48you actually get

01:13:49to have a lot of fun

01:13:50and no one asks you

01:13:51but why is this book fun?

01:13:52Yeah, well, it just

01:13:53turns out to what

01:13:53you were saying,

01:13:54you let your imagination

01:13:55go, you can be a child

01:13:56again and do what,

01:13:58you know, Ben Miller

01:13:58is a regular on the show

01:14:00and Ben has become

01:14:00one of the top

01:14:01ten selling children's writers.

01:14:03But when you're in there

01:14:04and you get success

01:14:05and you feel you are

01:14:06speaking and the children

01:14:07are lapping it up

01:14:09and enjoying it,

01:14:10it's a sense of achievement,

01:14:12Hugh.

01:14:12Well, it's the same

01:14:13as when I remember

01:14:14doing Panto

01:14:14and, you know,

01:14:15you're in front of

01:14:16a pretty tough crowd

01:14:17and they tell you

01:14:18pretty damn quickly

01:14:19if they're enjoying it

01:14:19or not

01:14:20and I'm sure the same

01:14:22will be,

01:14:22I'm dreading next week

01:14:23when this book comes out

01:14:24because I'm going to get,

01:14:24you know, peanuts

01:14:25and all sorts thrown at me

01:14:26from any number of

01:14:28school children

01:14:28who I go and read to.

01:14:29Do you get intimidated

01:14:30by your audience?

01:14:31Oh, I was terrified

01:14:32when I had to go

01:14:33into school

01:14:33for the first time

01:14:34but if a kid loves a book,

01:14:36they love it more

01:14:36than any adult

01:14:37loves a book

01:14:38and there's nothing

01:14:39like the joy

01:14:39of when you meet a kid

01:14:41who absolutely

01:14:41loves your books

01:14:43or loves reading generally

01:14:44and nothing is as good

01:14:46as that feeling.

01:14:47Lovely to talk to you both.

01:14:49Good luck both

01:14:49with Rory Sparks

01:14:51and the elephant in the room

01:14:52and I know this is one

01:14:53of the first ones,

01:14:53isn't it?

01:14:54Isaac Turner Messer,

01:14:55it's Clockwork Conspiracy

01:14:55in the little series.

01:14:57Thank you both indeed

01:14:58very much.

01:14:58Good to see you.

01:14:59Thank you so much.

01:15:00Time to sit back now

01:15:01and relax

01:15:02for a moment of calm

01:15:03in today's Ode to Joy.

01:15:05Ode to Joy

01:15:35Ode to Joy

01:16:05Oh, that was Tynemouth

01:16:26and St Mary's Lighthouse

01:16:28courtesy of Alan Magee

01:16:29and set to the Symphony No. 102

01:16:31by Josef Haydn.

01:16:33He wrote far too many, didn't he?

01:16:35104.

01:16:36Still to come.

01:16:37He has the classiest ticket in town

01:16:39just as well

01:16:39our guest list is so strong.

01:16:41Tom Sergis put his black tie on

01:16:43and he's serving up

01:16:44decadent martinis

01:16:45and you're all invited.

01:16:47I'll be back with Tom,

01:16:48our guests

01:16:49and those toe-tappingly good martinis

01:16:51right after this.

01:16:52Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.

01:17:07Time for today's Best of British

01:17:10and a cocktail so iconic

01:17:12it's become a byword

01:17:13for Hollywood glamour

01:17:14and British sophistication.

01:17:16From its storied past

01:17:18to the endless variations

01:17:20enjoyed today

01:17:21the martini

01:17:22stands out

01:17:23as a symbol

01:17:23of style

01:17:24and elegance.

01:17:25Given our esteemed

01:17:26guest list today

01:17:27it seemed only appropriate

01:17:28we laid on the good stuff

01:17:30guiding us through

01:17:31classic recipes

01:17:32inventive modern twists

01:17:34and the stories

01:17:35that made this cocktail

01:17:36a classic

01:17:36are very suave.

01:17:38Martini maestro

01:17:39Tom Sergis.

01:17:40Welcome Tom.

01:17:40Come on.

01:17:41Thank you Adam.

01:17:42What a joy I was over the moon

01:17:44when I was asked

01:17:45to put together five martinis.

01:17:46It's my favourite category

01:17:48of cocktails.

01:17:48It's the best.

01:17:49I'll hear no alternative opinions.

01:17:52It's the best.

01:17:53In many ways

01:17:54it's the original cocktail.

01:17:56You know the birth of the martini

01:17:57essentially was the birth

01:17:58of the cocktail

01:17:59as we know it.

01:18:00You had stuff like

01:18:01sherry cobblers

01:18:02and things like that before

01:18:03but the martini

01:18:04is the birth of vermouth

01:18:06being used.

01:18:07So these are drinks

01:18:07that are spirit

01:18:08and vermouth

01:18:09and pretty much nothing else

01:18:11which is alright.

01:18:13But they're all different.

01:18:14They're all different.

01:18:14So yeah we've done

01:18:15funky little twists

01:18:16on each.

01:18:17Shall we begin?

01:18:18Yes.

01:18:19So the first drink

01:18:20you're going to have here

01:18:20is with an olive in it.

01:18:21That's what you want to find.

01:18:23I've done my favourite

01:18:24type of martini.

01:18:25It is a vodka martini.

01:18:26People think that martinis

01:18:27must be gin

01:18:28and in fairness

01:18:29gin martini's been around

01:18:30since the late 1800s

01:18:31but vodka turned up

01:18:32within about 40 years of that

01:18:34so it's pretty much as old

01:18:35and whatever you choose

01:18:36to garnish it with

01:18:37is fine

01:18:38as long as it's an olive

01:18:38or a lemon

01:18:39but this is a classic

01:18:41modern

01:18:41or contemporary

01:18:42vodka martini

01:18:43five parts vodka

01:18:45one part

01:18:47very dry vermouth

01:18:48and we're using

01:18:49Edward's vodka

01:18:50which is made in Lincolnshire

01:18:51from King Edward Potatoes

01:18:53so it gives you

01:18:54this nice textural

01:18:55soft character

01:18:56and sacred

01:18:57which is beautiful

01:18:58English dry vermouth

01:18:59made in North London.

01:19:00Stirred down

01:19:02not shaken

01:19:03we'll get there

01:19:04Stirred

01:19:05oh

01:19:05right

01:19:06gorgeous

01:19:07come on

01:19:07do you notice

01:19:08we've all gone silent

01:19:09it's delicious

01:19:10there's a sort of

01:19:11gentle sensation of fear

01:19:13isn't there

01:19:13there's a translation

01:19:14there's definitely that

01:19:15of a Sunday morning

01:19:17why are martinis so scary

01:19:18is it because they're so strong

01:19:20they're powerhouse cocktails

01:19:21aren't they

01:19:21I think it sets the tone

01:19:23so if you walk in

01:19:23to see a friend

01:19:25or someone

01:19:25you go to their house

01:19:26for Sunday lunch

01:19:26they offer you a glass of wine

01:19:28if you say

01:19:28should we have a martini

01:19:29there's an immediate

01:19:30naughtiness

01:19:31it sets the bar

01:19:32doesn't it

01:19:32which I think is lovely

01:19:33how different would it be

01:19:35if it was stirred

01:19:36not shaken

01:19:36that's a really good question

01:19:38so stirring martinis down

01:19:40creates this kind of

01:19:41liquid silk texture

01:19:43it chills them down enormously

01:19:44and you end up with this

01:19:45really fine

01:19:46really refreshing texture

01:19:47it's silky

01:19:48silky

01:19:49and then if you shake drinks

01:19:51what happens is

01:19:52you get more aeration

01:19:53they get richer

01:19:53they get fuller

01:19:54they get more creamy in texture

01:19:55so all of this stuff

01:19:57about James Bond

01:19:57shaken and not stirred

01:19:58the classic martinis are stirred

01:20:01it really is a stirred drink

01:20:02but shaking it

01:20:03if you're into that

01:20:04if you like a bit of extra texture

01:20:05it's fine

01:20:06let's see how this has gone down

01:20:08Hugh do we like

01:20:09I'm a big

01:20:09I'm very keen on a

01:20:11dirty dry martini

01:20:12and often I find

01:20:14that the vermis

01:20:15can overpower

01:20:16and this is actually

01:20:18a very good proportion

01:20:20I'd say

01:20:20you need very little

01:20:21really don't you

01:20:22and it's not even lunchtime

01:20:23it's delicious

01:20:27I'm not a martini person

01:20:29but it's

01:20:30my gosh

01:20:31it's packs a punch

01:20:32but I really liked

01:20:33the olive

01:20:34the salt of the olive

01:20:35against the sort of

01:20:36the flavour of it

01:20:37it's yeah

01:20:38John do you indulge

01:20:39in a martini ever

01:20:40I do

01:20:40I only discovered them

01:20:42about 20 years ago

01:20:43but I love martinis

01:20:44made up for its end

01:20:45well I have a bit

01:20:48I mean often

01:20:49I don't drink a great deal

01:20:51but often at the beginning

01:20:52of a meal

01:20:52I'll take a martini

01:20:53and nurse that through the meal

01:20:55rather than moving on to wine

01:20:56so yes I love them

01:20:57it's such a

01:20:58PG Woodhouse

01:20:59always called it a stiffener

01:21:00exactly

01:21:00and I think it's just

01:21:01a wonderful phrase for it

01:21:02lovely

01:21:02next one

01:21:03next one

01:21:04the original martinis

01:21:05in the late 1800s

01:21:06in London and in America

01:21:07would have been much more

01:21:09what we call wet

01:21:10and the wet martini

01:21:11is when it is half

01:21:12or at least a lot more

01:21:13vermouth

01:21:13and a little bit less

01:21:15spirit

01:21:15so this is a 50-50

01:21:17martini

01:21:18in the style

01:21:19that you might have found

01:21:20in a bar in America

01:21:21or in London

01:21:21in the sort of 1880s

01:21:23into the early 1900s

01:21:24and what I've done with this

01:21:26is I've combined gin

01:21:27so a switching spirit

01:21:28this is forest gin

01:21:30which is made from

01:21:31foraged botanicals

01:21:33in the Macclesfield forest

01:21:34which is absolutely lovely

01:21:35berries

01:21:36there's junipers

01:21:37and citruses in there

01:21:38which they bring in

01:21:39but there's also mosses

01:21:40and ferns foraged

01:21:41from the national park

01:21:42around Macclesfield

01:21:43which is absolutely beautiful

01:21:44distilled up there

01:21:45and mixed with

01:21:46one of my favourite vermouths

01:21:47absolutely sensational

01:21:48vault meadow

01:21:50and so this is

01:21:51a sort of very floral

01:21:52very fragrant

01:21:53very grassy

01:21:54dandelion

01:21:55kind of rich

01:21:56this is so different

01:21:56to that first one

01:21:57so different

01:21:58completely different

01:21:59much softer

01:22:00much less

01:22:01it's a firm

01:22:01alcoholic attack

01:22:02it's a lot lower

01:22:03in alcohol

01:22:04but not low

01:22:04in alcohol

01:22:05by any stretch

01:22:05I like that one

01:22:07this will be my favourite

01:22:09for sure

01:22:09this is lovely

01:22:10I'm still trying to

01:22:12focus on foraging

01:22:13in Macclesfield

01:22:14I know

01:22:14it's a thing

01:22:16it's one of the highest

01:22:17altitude distilleries

01:22:18in the country

01:22:19it's a beautiful place

01:22:19to go and visit

01:22:20there's a pub

01:22:21mountains of Macclesfield

01:22:22the mountains of Macclesfield

01:22:23absolutely

01:22:24you as our connoisseur

01:22:25of martinis

01:22:26how does that one

01:22:26compare with the first one

01:22:27do you know

01:22:28I've never really liked

01:22:29gin martinis

01:22:30and this is the first one

01:22:31I've really

01:22:32this is lovely

01:22:33you

01:22:33come on

01:22:34I'm even getting the acorns

01:22:35from the woods

01:22:36in Macclesfield

01:22:37no it's really delicious

01:22:39Tom we have three to go

01:22:41we do

01:22:41move on

01:22:42now

01:22:43I thought I'd give you

01:22:44a bit of a gap

01:22:44what I've done here

01:22:46is I've created

01:22:46a non-alcoholic

01:22:49French martini

01:22:50it's a martini

01:22:51from the 1980s

01:22:52it looks like a martini

01:22:53from the 1980s

01:22:54doesn't it

01:22:55it's got shoulder pads

01:22:55a bit of pineapple

01:22:56shoulder pads

01:22:58and this is a twist on

01:23:00a classic style of martini

01:23:01that sort of

01:23:02martini purists

01:23:03don't think is a martini

01:23:04at all

01:23:04the original cocktail

01:23:05is vodka

01:23:06pineapple juice

01:23:07chambord

01:23:08raspberry liqueur

01:23:09it's you know

01:23:10shaken together

01:23:11it's a much more

01:23:12viscous sweet thing

01:23:12Tom be on this

01:23:13this is very nice

01:23:14but it's a fruit juice

01:23:15it is well

01:23:15isn't it

01:23:16this is not a martini

01:23:17it's a fruit juice

01:23:18it's a good palate cleanser

01:23:19nice

01:23:20after those first two

01:23:21and before the last two

01:23:22but it's fruit juice

01:23:23this is using something

01:23:25called sentia

01:23:25so I love this

01:23:26this is made in the UK

01:23:27and it is a

01:23:28what they call

01:23:30a functional

01:23:30non-alcoholic spirit

01:23:32so instead of alcohol

01:23:33what they're trying to do

01:23:33is combine

01:23:34as opposed to

01:23:35non-functioning alcohol

01:23:36exactly

01:23:37exactly

01:23:37so these are

01:23:39it's created

01:23:40with lots of different

01:23:40botanicals and herbs

01:23:41brought together

01:23:42the combination of which

01:23:44is meant to trigger

01:23:45feelings and sensations

01:23:46in your GABA system

01:23:47which is your

01:23:48kind of emotional

01:23:49regulation system

01:23:51in the body

01:23:51so

01:23:51Lolita do you feel

01:23:52you're being triggered

01:23:53in your gammas

01:23:54I hope so

01:23:56I think this is delicious

01:23:57it is delicious

01:23:58and the martini glass

01:23:59makes me feel like

01:24:00I am having a martini

01:24:01it's a good

01:24:01I really like it

01:24:03John

01:24:03I think my GABA system

01:24:04approves

01:24:05Hugh

01:24:07my mother always said

01:24:09if you haven't got

01:24:09anything nice to say

01:24:10don't say it

01:24:11just leave it at that

01:24:12move on

01:24:13move on

01:24:13we're moving through

01:24:14we're moving through

01:24:15now

01:24:16back onto the booze

01:24:17we have got

01:24:18a brilliant take

01:24:19on a martini

01:24:20so this is from

01:24:20the early 1900s

01:24:21created at the Savoy

01:24:23by a lady called

01:24:25Ada Coleman

01:24:25who was the head

01:24:26bartender at the Savoy

01:24:27at the time

01:24:27and it's called

01:24:29the Hanky Panky

01:24:30which I like a lot

01:24:31for the love of Ada

01:24:33absolutely

01:24:34so it is gin

01:24:36heavily gin

01:24:37and the vermouth

01:24:38added to it

01:24:39one fifth

01:24:40vermouth

01:24:41like the first

01:24:41martini we had

01:24:42is Rosso vermouth

01:24:43and this is made

01:24:44by the brilliant

01:24:45Astley Brothers

01:24:45in South London

01:24:46but crucially

01:24:48just a little dribble

01:24:50of something called

01:24:51Fernet

01:24:51is put into there

01:24:52and that is a

01:24:53super bittersweet

01:24:54Italian style

01:24:55liqueur

01:24:55a bit like a vermouth

01:24:56but much more

01:24:57alcoholic

01:24:57minty

01:24:58it's got myrrh

01:24:59in there

01:25:00for you three wise

01:25:01men enthusiasts

01:25:02bit of air

01:25:03and it's a much more

01:25:04intense thing

01:25:05the gin in here

01:25:06is Mouse Hall

01:25:07which is from East Sussex

01:25:08and it's sensational

01:25:10it's much more punchy

01:25:11yeah

01:25:12John do you like

01:25:13that one

01:25:13with the Rosso

01:25:15martini

01:25:16well the myrrh

01:25:17might be good

01:25:18I think it misses

01:25:18the incense

01:25:19I'm not so sure

01:25:23about this one

01:25:23it's a bit too heavy

01:25:25for it

01:25:25it is much heavier

01:25:27it doesn't

01:25:28for me

01:25:29the pleasure

01:25:30in a martini

01:25:30is that crisp hit

01:25:32and this is just

01:25:33a bit rounder

01:25:34slightly medicinal

01:25:36that's true

01:25:37it's become

01:25:38the bastion

01:25:39of the kind of

01:25:40food scene

01:25:40in London

01:25:41if you like

01:25:41so amazing chefs

01:25:42like Fergus Henderson

01:25:43at St John

01:25:44and things

01:25:44you know

01:25:45this is their

01:25:45absolute

01:25:46kind of

01:25:46benchmark cocktail

01:25:47Anthony Bourdain

01:25:48was a big fan

01:25:49it's a very

01:25:50gastronomic drink

01:25:50let's move on

01:25:51to the last one

01:25:51thank you Ada

01:25:52thank you Ada

01:25:53thank you Ada

01:25:54now finally

01:25:56and this is a bit

01:25:57of an easy option

01:25:58really

01:25:59but look

01:25:59it is the classic

01:26:00the quintessential

01:26:01you can't go on

01:26:03a hen party

01:26:03without one

01:26:04the espresso martini

01:26:06which is a thing

01:26:07now

01:26:07the espresso martini

01:26:08despite being ubiquitous

01:26:11and everywhere

01:26:11is one of those

01:26:13bartender classics

01:26:14oh

01:26:15stunning hey

01:26:18oh yeah that is lovely

01:26:19that is lovely

01:26:21you want to down it in one

01:26:22you do

01:26:23it's like a chocolate

01:26:24for you I guess

01:26:25it is

01:26:25it's chopped tea

01:26:26and rich

01:26:27this is made with

01:26:28the toasted

01:26:29coffee bean vodka

01:26:30from Portobello Road

01:26:31Distillery

01:26:31which is a sensational

01:26:32potato based vodka

01:26:33again like Edwards

01:26:34great textural vodka

01:26:35made in London

01:26:36they make good gin too

01:26:37and Conker

01:26:38which is from Dorset

01:26:39which is a coffee liqueur

01:26:41mix that with a little bit of sugar

01:26:43some actual espresso

01:26:44fresh espresso

01:26:45shake it

01:26:46and you've got this

01:26:46and it was invented

01:26:48as a style of martini

01:26:49by Dick Bradsell

01:26:50arguably the UK's greatest

01:26:52and most influential bartender

01:26:53in 1984

01:26:54in Soho

01:26:55in Soho Brasserie

01:26:57what do you think

01:26:57I think this is delicious

01:26:58it's very dangerous

01:26:59isn't it

01:27:00it's very dangerous

01:27:01because it's only Moorish

01:27:02I mean it slips down

01:27:03John

01:27:03I think I'd better get

01:27:05some invitations

01:27:06to hen parties

01:27:06we'll see what we can do

01:27:10you

01:27:11this is absolutely delicious

01:27:13and I particularly like

01:27:14that I'm intrigued

01:27:15by the vodka

01:27:15and I'm intrigued

01:27:16by the date

01:27:171980 whatever it was for

01:27:19what was it

01:27:19what inspired him

01:27:21was it someone

01:27:21falling asleep at the counter

01:27:23so I wonder

01:27:25if you're leading me

01:27:25into something

01:27:26that could get me

01:27:26into trouble

01:27:27but it was invented

01:27:28in London Fashion Week

01:27:301984

01:27:30and the legend goes

01:27:32that a supermodel

01:27:33of the time

01:27:33who I know who it is

01:27:34and will remain nameless

01:27:35walked into the Soho Brasserie

01:27:37one morning

01:27:37and said to Dick

01:27:38we're in the middle

01:27:39of London Fashion Week

01:27:40I'm exhausted

01:27:41and I need you to make me

01:27:42something that's going

01:27:43to wake me up

01:27:44and shake me up

01:27:45we'll say for the sake

01:27:46of TV

01:27:46and he responded

01:27:49by turning around

01:27:50to the Illy Espresso machine

01:27:51it had just been given

01:27:52which was a rare thing

01:27:53in 1984

01:27:54made an espresso

01:27:55chucked some vodka

01:27:56and hey presto

01:27:57a legend was born

01:27:59and so that is

01:28:00the origin story

01:28:01London Fashion Week

01:28:02I'll drink to that

01:28:03I'll drink to that

01:28:04that's it for today's show

01:28:06where are we going for lunch

01:28:07it doesn't need to have

01:28:09a lot of stodge in it

01:28:10soak it all up

01:28:11thanks to all my guests

01:28:12to Sir John

01:28:13to Lolita

01:28:14to Hugh

01:28:14and of course to Tom

01:28:15for cheering us

01:28:17with all these

01:28:17join me next week

01:28:18for some more

01:28:19barn side banter

01:28:20but until then

01:28:21well you see

01:28:22it's difficult to speak now

01:28:23isn't it

01:28:23till then

01:28:24in the words

01:28:24of US comedian

01:28:25Jackie Gleeson

01:28:27you try saying that

01:28:27after a sip of his

01:28:28espresso martini

01:28:29a man must defend

01:28:31his home

01:28:31his wife

01:28:32his children

01:28:33and his martini

01:28:34I'm defending this

01:28:35cheers all

01:28:36cheers

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