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00:00What's your sense of how much more some of these tech giants are going to have to tap the debt
00:03markets to fuel some of their AI spend? Yeah, it's data that I've been tracking
00:07really closely. Meta's sixth part is really interesting. The duration ranges five years
00:12to 40 years, which like at one time, and Lisa, you know this better than me, we'd be like 40
00:17years. What? That's insane. But it's not unprecedented, even in this portion of the year.
00:23If you remember, Oracle did a 40-year note that was 1.37% over treasuries. This Meta
00:29one, according to a Bloomberg source, is 1.4%. But it speaks to the imminent capital need and the
00:36longer-term capital need that Meta has. And, you know, the story from overnight is that capital
00:41expenditures in the next fiscal year, 2026, will be notably larger than they are this year
00:46at a top of $72 billion. That's the stakes we're talking about.
00:50Ed, do you have a sense of what Meta is spending on, given the fact that they don't have the cloud
00:54that, say, the Microsofts or the Alphabets have?
00:58Yeah, this is what spooked the market, right? You know, Meta is not a hyperscaler.
01:04And the way to look at it is that its aggressive investments in capacity are in part to meet
01:10internal demand, which is also a part of the evidence that the CFO, Susan Lee, is trying
01:15to put forward that they're seeing returns straight away. When you bring a new data center
01:19online or new capacity online, Meta often has to look within its own teams and say,
01:24what's the biggest priority here? That is difficult for analysts to model how it immediately
01:30translates to top-line growth, right? And so that's the brinkmanship going on here.
01:35Meta's sort of willingness to front-load investment, as Hal Zuckerberg put it, and the visibility
01:40of the market to see revenue growth that would justify it, near-term or longer-term.
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