Shelley on Peace Deal: Arrived at an Irreversible Moment

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00:00President Trump, I mean, he said it many times yesterday.

00:02He wants to ensure that this truce between Israel and Hamas does actually turn into lasting peace.

00:08Do you believe that there is enough in this 20-point peace plan for that to actually happen?

00:13Could this time really be different?

00:17Good morning, Joanna. Good morning, everyone.

00:20Thank you for having me.

00:22Yes, I think this time everybody saw that all the Arab world was involved in this agreement.

00:29So nobody was out, even Turkey left inside, what we call the Muslim world, part of the Muslim world.

00:37So even in the Knesset yesterday, when the Prime Minister Netanyahu said,

00:44we finish with the war, let's go for peace.

00:47I think always Israel seeks for peace.

00:50And with the help, of course, the huge help of America, Donald Trump, of course,

00:55we arrive to a moment I think that it would be irreversible.

01:03The King Abdullah, the King of Jordan, sat down in an interview yesterday,

01:09and he actually said the Middle East is doomed unless there is a peace process

01:14leading to the creation of a Palestinian state.

01:17Now, the latest polling suggests that the Israeli public, as of now,

01:22is overwhelmingly against the idea of the formation of a Palestinian state.

01:27Can there actually be lasting peace without a two-state solution?

01:31Look, you know what's the problem with politicians and people?

01:35They want now everything now.

01:37First, we finish this war, the two-year war.

01:40And since, let's say, since the creation of Israel, the wars from 1948 until today,

01:45wars, wars, wars.

01:47We did an agreement with Egypt, with Jordan.

01:50So now the Palestinian Authority have to take the torch and to emphasize

01:57that everybody will see that the terror passed.

02:01You know, still today, the PLO, the PA is financing people that murder Jews.

02:09Even those people that you call prisoners, they are not prisoners.

02:12They are murderers, that murder innocent people.

02:15And all the...

02:16So, the first change, you cannot in one day say, you know,

02:20if you ask me in 10 years, 50 years,

02:23can we arrive to something that everything, wow, Palestinians said,

02:28maybe.

02:28It depends on the other part.

02:30Israel, do all our best.

02:32We never seek for wars.

02:34We try...

02:35Even the last war, which was the Hamas,

02:38the war was wage on us.

02:40And let's hope.

02:41You cannot go to the point from today for tomorrow.

02:44It's a long distance, what we call marathon.

02:50Earlier on, you were talking about the participation of some of the Arab states.

02:54And obviously, many of them were represented yesterday at the Gaza signing ceremony.

02:58Looking back, was Israel's attack on Doha a miscalculation?

03:04Was it a mistake?

03:05Or would you say that it actually accelerated the momentum around getting to this 20-point peace plan?

03:12Well, if you see to the facts, it looks like it's accelerated.

03:19But let's not forget, the Prime Minister said that countries cannot harbor terrorists,

03:26and they live like nothing happened.

03:28They send others, they give orders, they kill people,

03:31they intervene in the negotiation, and they stand still.

03:34Does it sound to anybody normal?

03:38So the attack not was on Qatar, even though it was in the state of...

03:42In the country of Qatar.

03:44But it was a terrorist.

03:45They were sitting there, and sometimes things...

03:50You know, regarding what's passed, it looks like it helps.

03:54But what's important is the agreement that was signed yesterday in Shaar Mashech.

04:01And now we have a pattern to go to what everybody is seeking for.

04:06Let's see the step.

04:07We've passed the first step.

04:09Now we have to get the dead bodies, the dead soldiers and citizens that are still kept there.

04:15And we continue, step by step.

04:18A bloodshed conflict cannot finish in one day by signing a document.

04:25We have to have some check and balance all the way,

04:28and to see that everyone means peace and peace and economic and prosperity.

04:35Now, you are the Israeli ambassador to the UAE.

04:38The UAE, obviously, is signatory to the Abraham Accords.

04:41Do you believe now that the Gaza war, at least for the time being,

04:47there appears to be a truce and the war is ostensibly over,

04:51do you believe that the UAE may formally invite the Israeli prime minister for a visit?

04:57I think it's obvious.

04:59Look, when there are obstacles in war, you know, the Arab world is in conflict.

05:04People don't like to embrace Israel.

05:07I think that it will arrive.

05:08Let's see that the Hamas will be eliminated.

05:13It will be disarmed.

05:14We start the construction.

05:16Not we, you know, this committee with Tony Blair and head with Donald Trump.

05:20We start to construct, build, education.

05:23I think things will come.

05:25It's a...

05:26And even the last, you know, the last peace sign yesterday in Sharma Sheikh,

05:32approximately, even Mr. Netanyahu, the prime minister, should be there.

05:36But we have some holidays, religious holidays, and he couldn't arrive.

05:40So his appearance is not something like, wow, surprising.

05:44It will be.

05:44OK, what happens to the Israeli prime minister from here?

05:50Many of his political opponents in the run-up, obviously, to yesterday,

05:54had been calling for new elections, calling for his resignation

05:57over the perceived mishandling of the war and what has ensued since October 7.

06:04Yesterday, in a remarkable comment, the president, the U.S. president,

06:10waded into the debates and actually joked that maybe the Israeli prime minister

06:14should receive a pardon.

06:15What do you see as the Israeli prime minister's political future here?

06:19The prime minister, even that I'm not dealing with politics, but the polls

06:28and what people are thinking now after the agreement,

06:32it looks like prime minister Netanyahu will continue won.

06:36Always the people that lose, you know, there's all of the position.

06:40They're, what we can say, their work is to be against.

06:45Even that in this case, everybody should be happy.

06:48And I think that everybody was happy.

06:49You saw it yesterday in the Knesset, opposition, coalition,

06:53all were happy and were clapping hands to everybody.

06:57And I think it's day to come to see the people.

07:00What's count in Israel is only the people.

07:04They'll go to vote.

07:05I think the election will be in the next November.

07:09Usually they start in June, next June.

07:12So I think the result will be shown and we can talk about again.

07:19I think the next day, which is a great day for the first time.

07:25I think the next day, when I come to the next day,

07:26we'll be right back.

07:27All right.

07:27I think we're going to be right back.

07:28I think the next day, I'm going to go to this morning and we can talk about it.

07:30If I don't do this, I know we can talk about it.

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