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00:00Today on This Old House.
00:02We'll show you a system that can make airtight any building, whether new or existing.
00:06And in my world, this is a masonry project extraordinaire.
00:11I'm going in. I want to see the mechanics.
00:13And you determine what's unsafe, what's going to go down in the next storm, and then remove them.
00:18Yep.
00:27That's it.
00:30That's it.
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00:39It doesn't Canada.
00:41These are things that we can win.
00:42They don't even search for us.
00:43They don't have to wait because they don't stop we out ourselves.
00:46We're going to get that الح assignable.
00:54So, you know traslavez when you vas with us in the beginning.
00:58Hey there, I'm Kevin O'Connor and welcome back to This Old House.
01:06How about that, huh?
01:07I mean, lots to love about Western North Carolina.
01:10What is that I hear?
01:11It sounds like every tree has got a speaker in it.
01:13No, no.
01:14Those are actually the cicadas.
01:15Cicadas.
01:16Oh yeah, a billion strong.
01:17So a lot of them are underground for 17 years and then they pop up and they start making
01:22a racket because they're all trying to find a mate.
01:24So it's sort of like the world's largest and loudest blind date for bugs?
01:28That.
01:29Or a really nice soundtrack for a ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway.
01:31It really is.
01:32I mean, the views go on forever here.
01:33Oh yeah.
01:34Let's go for a ride.
01:39Yeah, you're not kidding about the views, right?
01:41It's unreal.
01:42I mean, and the highway runs almost 400 miles, all the way from Virginia out to the Great
01:47Smoky Mountains.
01:48And this was done during the Great Depression as part of that New Deal, and the New Deal
01:52were all these great public works projects.
01:54And this was designed to showcase really some of the most beautiful scenery in this country.
01:58And it's probably the most peaceful highway I've ever been on.
02:01Unless, of course, you're a cicada.
02:03True.
02:04Unless you are a cicada.
02:06Well, peaceful for sure, but this highway was not very serene last fall.
02:11So Hurricane Helene damaged a lot of homes, a lot of businesses, but it also brought trees
02:16down that blocked large swaths of the highway.
02:19Well, I read about it, and I actually saw it, and there were so many trees that were
02:22down.
02:23And it looks like they've cleaned up a fair amount of it here on the parkway.
02:25Oh yeah?
02:26It looks pretty good.
02:27I mean, I think there's still a couple spots here and there, but otherwise good progress.
02:30Speaking of progress, how about the progress down at our project houses?
02:33Yeah, Kevin, I've got to hand it to these builders.
02:35You know, they were up to their eyeballs with plenty of business before the storm came,
02:39and they have stepped up.
02:40They and their subs in a great way to really deliver for us and for the homeowners.
02:44So I'm told our three houses down in Swannanoa, they all have hardwood floors down.
02:49Yep.
02:50They've got primer up on the walls, and today we might even start hanging some kitchen cabinets.
02:53Yep.
02:54And down at Paul's, the windows and floors are in too.
02:57But today we're actually going to be doing air sealing.
02:59It's a technology that is really cool where you can seal up a building, even existing buildings.
03:04I'm really excited about the technology.
03:06Very cool.
03:07Let's turn up the music.
03:08Will your window down.
03:09Oh, is this the music?
03:10This is it.
03:11Ah.
03:12Cicada FM.
03:13Oh, jeez.
03:14I don't know.
03:24Lot of activity down here.
03:26Mostly renovations, but a couple new builds for houses that were taken down.
03:29Concrete truck pouring a footer for a foundation, and three of our projects well underway.
03:35Thanks to the help of Boston Built and some volunteers who have been here from the very beginning.
03:40So on the outside, you can see siding and trim is up, and on the inside, board is up, floors are down,
03:46which means we can start focusing on interior trim and cabinets.
03:50Thank you all.
03:51We appreciate you.
03:54Hey, Chris, Noah, good to see you guys.
03:56What's up, Kevin?
03:57How's it going?
03:58All right, going all right.
03:59Looks like you guys already got started here.
04:00Yep.
04:01Caught us right in the middle.
04:02Very nice.
04:03I hope you get that clamp, but maybe you guys can give me a lay of the land of what we're going to get doing here.
04:06Definitely.
04:07So we got first two uppers in, right?
04:09Yep.
04:10May I pull it down?
04:12Sure, yeah.
04:13We can take a quick peek at it.
04:15What's what?
04:16So basically we got this wall here, and then this wall here.
04:21Okay.
04:22And it's just kind of like an L-shaped kitchen, so we'll go from the fridge over there to a range, to a corner, to a sink.
04:28And then Maya's called for an island in the middle, I presume, with two bases and an overhang?
04:33Mm-hmm.
04:34Small island there.
04:35All right, so you guys measure up, and you like setting cleats right here so that you can rest the cabinets on it.
04:39So you got these in already.
04:41Why did you guys start in this corner?
04:43This outside wall is a little out of plum, and we're working wall-to-wall with cabinets.
04:50Start with the hardest, right?
04:51Yeah.
04:52Okay.
04:53And start with the uppers?
04:54Lowers?
04:55You guys adamant about that methodology, or what?
04:57No, I think it just depends on the situation.
05:00I think the wall-to-wall program and a couple fills is why we chose to start at the top.
05:06But, you know, down the street we did the lowers first, so we can template for cabinets, or countertops.
05:13Countertops, right.
05:14Okay.
05:15Let's get to it.
05:16Yeah, great.
05:17I guess that one, I'll go grab, I'll look at the plan and look what's coming in next.
05:31How are we looking?
05:32I could use a shim up top.
05:42I think this is the next one, 21 inch here.
05:45Just push it right up the butt to the corner.
05:47No, let's hold on a sec for that.
05:49Okay.
05:50Maya's chosen a retro sort of 40 inch range.
05:55It's very Maya.
05:56Yeah, totally.
05:57Throughout the house.
05:58And since we're using stock cabinets, we need to make up for a two inch difference.
06:04This is 40, stock is 42.
06:06Correct.
06:07So we're going to have a little bit of this and that way.
06:10Exactly.
06:11So to keep that, to keep that center, we're going to go ahead and pull the 48.
06:16To get to our range, we're going to shoot a laser and then bump off of that and measure for our filler to make sure that this upper ends up within one inch of the lowers.
06:28I got you.
06:29Okay.
06:30Well, use stock when we can.
06:31Let's do it.
06:32We're going to mark an inch in.
06:36Then we're going to go ahead and just measure from there to there to double check our measurements.
06:40Looks like 23 and an eighth light.
06:44And filler will make up the difference.
06:46That's right.
06:47Okay.
06:57Like that.
06:59Tight.
07:00Where do you guys want me to pilot this?
07:01These are the uppers and you're kind of looking up at them.
07:03Yeah.
07:04We like to hide the countersink.
07:06We're going to pilot above hinge that I took off the door.
07:17Loves援.
07:18I'm waiting for it.
07:36OK.
07:39OK.
07:43Vamos!
07:44all right we're gonna go ahead and set our cabinet elevations now and we predetermined
08:04this as our high spot so we're gonna go ahead and use that tick high spot and also represents
08:09top of our base cabinet that's right okay um and so instead of if you notice the laser
08:15is high right now uh that's purposeful so instead of trying to line the laser up on all of the
08:21tops of the cabinets you kind of lose it sometimes we'll use a stick and bring the stick down
08:27to our tick and set it right there and then we'll actually mark the laser on the stick
08:32and then when we're going around and setting cabinets we just have to set this on the top
08:39of it yeah and the lasers there perfect versus cleaned out and can we set this guy yep let's
08:44do it
08:46all right so we're a little low so about a quarter yep that's a handy trick huh
08:56yeah we're good we don't need anything back there thanks
09:03all right so
09:09all right so
09:15get that huh too peach you get around the plumbing back there
09:43get getting there there we go yeah you did okay perfect no let me just slip this in there
09:52see what we're gonna look like so we've got sort of a pedestal kitchen sink going in basically
09:58right yep it's kind of a freestanding sink yeah so once we set these fix the space you guys can
10:07send that home yeah so we'll get that space designated and then we'll level this up and be
10:12on our way so maya's got a two base cabinet island right here and then she's pretty much all set with
10:17this kitchen yeah she she's gonna be thrilled she's gonna love it tonight when she comes home
10:22big improvement for the day all right nice job guys let's get this in great
10:25it's springtime here in ashville and things are starting to bloom people are starting to come
10:41back into town but there's still a lot of work to be done at our project houses and today here we're at
10:47matt melinda's and matt is here to help us talk about the trees hey jen thank you for having us here
10:52today yeah absolutely so what we have here today is that this melinda and matt this is a program in
10:57buncombe county uh it's where 4 000 residents have signed up throughout the county uh and this program
11:03is specific to residents that don't have the wherewithal to get the debris the hazardous trees
11:07the stumps uh the things that are on their house get that actually out to the street okay and so what
11:11this program does through fema and through the federal government allows us to come on and get these
11:15trees that are hazardous they're either leaning they're uprooted uh there's large stumps as you can see
11:20behind us here and remove those hazards and get them out of the way otherwise it'll never get done
11:25so you come in with your crew you determine what trees are leaning what's unsafe what's going to go
11:31down in the next storm and then remove them yep all right how much how much wood how many trees do you
11:35think came glad you asked that just to give you an idea of the magnitude of this disaster in the last
11:39seven months we've removed over two million cubic yards of debris that's remarkable give you a visual
11:45that'll take an nfl stadium and fill it up like a soup bowl of unprocessed debris yeah give you an
11:50idea that's incredible that is a very important thing that you've done for all these people thanks
11:55for your effort in coming in here once all this debris is cleared out we might use a few logs for
12:00the landscape plan but then we can get moving on that sounds great all right thanks for coming out
12:04thank you so much all right take care
12:09hey melinda hey how's it going good to see you good to see you well this is quite different from last
12:14time yes it really is we've made a lot of progress um that no trees hanging through the roof now right
12:21if you remember there were six trees on our roof and one had come through this this side of the house
12:27and opened up the roof here but we've got a more open for floor plan and have made some progress on
12:35that so we're excited for the changes i mean it's quite a difference and you've gained all this space
12:41yes so if you remember there was a wall here that separated the two rooms that stopped at around this
12:48area so we've decided to make this a peninsula type of counter there will be four stools where we can all
12:54sit and eat dinner and this is where all the magic conversations are going to happen right yeah
13:00so how are you guys doing um we're doing okay you know it's been six months since the storm and
13:06um the kids are still terrified when it rains um they cry and when the wind blows or there's a storm
13:12they're just you know still really scared and we are too time will help things but as of right now we've
13:19all still have a little bit of post-traumatic well you lived through quite a bit so i'm glad
13:26the disaster relief company was able to come in and determine what trees needed to come down or
13:31are compromised yes we appreciate all the help that they did in the area and in our yard just so that
13:37we would feel safe as our you know for our family to move back in here right i think it needed to happen
13:42so yeah for our peace of mind you know i hope that we can all feel safe when we move back in well i
13:48spoke with your landscape architect earlier and she's got a lot of great ideas it's going to be
13:53a more naturalized plan just to get back to feeling like home yeah better than before yeah it's going
13:59to be great all right yeah we'll see you later all right wow all right thank you charles hello isabel
14:12welcome how are you good how are you doing great thank you for having me and in my world this is a
14:20masonry project extraordinaire uh i don't even know where to start but maybe you can help me i understand
14:27that completely it is a beautiful inn that we are looking at here the grove park inn was built starting
14:34in 1912 the project kicked off okay and over 400 men worked on the construction of the inn they worked for
14:4111 months in 27 days i know the stone is indigenous to this area but how did they actually get it in
14:49place i mean this looks like a lot of work oh definitely great question so the stone is locally
14:55sourced it was unearthed from sunset mountain which is what we're standing on right now all right so again
15:02uniqueness all over the place i mean these lentils those just look like natural cut stones that kind of
15:09fell out of the mountain side massive undertaking and the results are just stunning i mean really
15:15just blown away by the place they only had ropes they had mules and wagons they had one steam shovel
15:22they didn't have the modern day tools that we have today simply amazing so more of the same inside
15:28yes all right i would love it
15:30welcome to the great hall amazing of the main inn this is the portion of the building that was built
15:40in 1913 amazing it is a beautiful structure in here and it is flanked by our twin fireplaces that are 36
15:48feet wide and almost two stories tall wow amazing so isabelle i have to admit i'm like a kid in a candy
15:55store right now do you mind if i give myself a self tour please all right thank you i'm gonna start
16:00over here all right all right so this is the most amazing fireplace that i've ever seen right off the
16:06bat look at the size of this boulder good stonemasons always put the biggest stones at the bottom
16:12not so indicative of this fireplace because look at this i don't even know if this is three tons or four
16:18tons or whatever but i know how they got it in and it was a pulley a couple donkeys and a rope
16:23so pretty amazing but as i get deeper into this fireplace i'm going in i want to see the mechanics
16:31so here we are in the inside of the fireplace i'm looking at the ben franklin perfection right here
16:36you can see that we're wide at the bottom and as we climb up to the top of the smoke chamber we cone
16:41into the flue chamber and that's why this fireplace looks perfect and on my way out i cannot ignore
16:48these and irons look at the dimples all the patina i mean this is custom made but you wouldn't
16:53pick this up anywhere else but a welder shop but you're going to come around the corner and i want
16:57to show you something look at this this is the original elevator from 1913 and anytime i want to go
17:09upstairs all i do is press a button okay at first glance these stones are put in kind of a mismatch but
17:18i know it's structurally sound why they have the big stones at the base this wall is actually five
17:24or six feet deep so it's a very strong wall the reason i know that skilled masons were on this
17:29project is look at these grout lines you can see that there's never one straight everything is at an
17:36angle it goes side to side and it follows each stone so that means there were good stone masons on this
17:41job and as i get closer to this mechanism right here this is the gong i can't ignore it
17:49when everybody on the inside hears that sound they come outside and look at what they see sunset in
17:55nashville the house is made up of a series of components there's walls there's floors there's
18:06ceilings there's roofs there's doors and there's windows and every time we bring those components
18:11together mechanically we connect them you can get air leakage right here that can come out through this
18:18small crack and it's a surprisingly large amount of air now around windows you can caulk them when
18:23you put them in around doors so too but it's in the quiet place you don't think about where the floors
18:28and ceilings meet where a lot of infiltration and exfiltration air leakage can happen so today we're
18:35going to show an interesting product that can seal up any building whether or not it's under construction
18:39like this or an existing building abe i'm so excited you're here with all of this cool stuff
18:45why don't you take us through the process thank you richard really excited to show you so today the
18:49first thing i want to show you is the heart of our system this is our our sealant this is a caulk and
18:55how it differs is we're able to aerosolize it aerosolize so it could become a fine mist become a fine
19:00mist and what we'll do is we'll pump it through our system and it sprays through our nozzles here nozzle
19:05right here we'll have four of these stations right around the space right and so that sealant needs
19:10a way to find the cracks and so how we're going to do that is we're going to use our blower door
19:15just to pressurize and push it all into all the cracks right exactly right i love this all right so
19:21we got to start with sort of a baseline now we got to find out how leaky this house is to start right
19:25right and so this system what it's going to do is perform an initial test and my teammate caleb here
19:30he's going to help you set up the blower door perfect and we're going to get a reading on where
19:34the house is starting and how leaky it is i'll bet you it's plenty leaky
19:43for the blower door test a large fan is mounted to the door frame pushing air into the building
19:49to determine the speed and the amount of air that escapes through the gaps and cracks
19:53all right so what do we got for numbers so we got about 2100 cubic feet per minute of air leakage
20:06inside the envelope right now 2100 cubic feet every minute and how much pressure are you pushing into
20:12the building so we're pushing in about 100 pascals of air which is equivalent to about 30 miles an hour's
20:16worth of wind so 30 mile an hour wind is pushing on every single seam and that's making it 2000 cfm is
20:24still leaking through there that's a lot exactly yeah yeah and here's a little visual if we could
20:29just pretend maybe this were a cubic block of air well that's a really good visual because the people
20:34don't understand just how much leaks through here 2000 is escaping and we think that the building's so
20:39tight you know right good and what are we shooting for to get to we're shooting for about 500 cubic feet
20:44per minute air leakage well let's go let's get those misters going let's get it started
20:54as the blower door runs the nozzles inside the house spray a fine
20:58mist that gets pushed into the tiny gaps and cracks of the building
21:05the mist hardens in place creating a caulk-like seal that stops air from leaking
21:10while the space must stay clear during application the seal is non-toxic once cured
21:30all right so it's been about an hour how'd we do on our test yeah so if you look right here we started at
21:352 181 cfm and we finished out at 484. so even less than 500 that's extra credit good job awesome
21:44this house will be comfortable for the next hundred years that's right thanks boys yep
21:49a little help from the local wholesaler we've added some important components one is fresh air
21:53energy recovery ventilator fresh air in exhaust air out in a controlled way and a couple of air
21:59conditioning condensers for heating and cooling right here heat pumps so we have separate systems on
22:04the top and bottom floors so get a little chance to for the air to clear in here so now we can see
22:10the effects of this system here's an electrical outlet box right here if you look carefully
22:14you see it's completely sealed all the way around no more air leakage here and electrical wire you can
22:20see the coagulation behind here this building is now sealed and that completes our work for right now
22:26from here in ashford but we'll be back to keep all of these projects moving to the finish line
22:30so until next time i'm rich trithui for this old house
22:41next time on this old house here in yancey county they've got a lot of rebuilding to do it turns out
22:47there's a group of high school students who are stepping up to do just that i say this is
22:52truly something unique like a little heart of gold in this school this is a great antique chest that
22:58you're going to turn into a vanity i love it and it's going to take a little bit of work because we
23:02have a sink that sits in the middle right and i'm about to help noah install some window trim
23:07that's next time
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