Entrevistamos al director de cine Scott Cooper, antes del lanzamiento de la biopic de Bruce Springsteen: Deliver me from Nowhere, protagonizada por Jeremy Allen White.
00:00My first question is what you say to cast Jeremy, because he has one of the most special faces in the whole industry, so why was he the perfect Bruce Springfield?
00:10Well, for many reasons. If you look at Jeremy's bone structure, it's very similar to Bruce's in 81 and 82.
00:17We weren't going for imitation or mimicry, we were going for an essence.
00:21But he also has Bruce's vulnerability and his intensity, and the courage, like Bruce, to show himself at his lowest, which I think is critical for this particular chapter in Bruce's life.
00:35And he can also sing and play guitar and play harmonica. He's one of those guys who's great looking and can do everything.
00:43Yeah, he's amazing in this movie.
00:44Thank you.
00:46Nowadays, it's a time where we're having musical beatbox almost every year, one or two.
00:53What makes Deliver from Nowhere something special, something different?
00:57Well, I don't know if it's special. That's up for the audience to determine.
01:01I suppose what makes it different is it's a very specific and very narrow time in Bruce's life.
01:07It shows Bruce at his most vulnerable, his most fragile.
01:11I think maybe it shows even his very ardent fans a chapter that they don't know fully.
01:22Bruce has said to me there are things in this movie that he's never spoken about.
01:28So I think that's exciting for fans.
01:33You know, and Bruce is different from a lot of musicians.
01:37Some musicians, they're icons, they're myths, and there's a little bit of distance between you and that particular singer.
01:47With Bruce, he brings you in.
01:50And if you've seen him in concert, it's like a spiritual revival.
01:53So for me, to make a film about someone who has meant so much to me and to show him in a very human way has really made it special.
02:04That's so beautiful.
02:05How do you think that the industry is going to evolve in this way, in the musical biopics?
02:10Because we had the Queen musical last year with the Timothee Chalamet, with Bob Dylan.
02:17We are going to have Michael Jackson, The Beatles.
02:19How do you think that this is going to go?
02:21Do you think that audiences will always be there for this kind of movies?
02:24Do I think this movie specifically or all of the movies?
02:28All of the movies.
02:29Well, I think, I mean, look, it's clear that audiences love music films, some more than others.
02:36You know, it's a little bit of a different time now than when Bohemian Rhapsody came out and Rocketman.
02:41That was pre-pandemic when people were going to the movies more.
02:46Unfortunately, I think people are staying at home now and they're doing this while they're watching the movie, which is unfortunate.
02:54But I do think if you make films about artists people love, eventually they'll come.
03:01I just hope they come sooner rather than later.
03:04I hope so.
03:05I hope so.
03:06And I wanted to add you about something that you were telling me about Bruce, about this movie,
03:11because you reflect, like, his trauma, his depression.
03:14You don't focus on his rising as a star.
03:17Focus on the person that's rehabilitated.
03:20Why did you decide to take this approach?
03:21Why is it more interesting than this?
03:24Well, because I didn't think that we had seen it done in such a way.
03:31I thought it was important to show Bruce struggling and in need of help and then ultimately getting the help.
03:38I think it's important to show what he was grappling with, wrestling with while he was writing his most personal record.
03:44How trauma, unresolved trauma, can feed creativity and artistry, while also realizing that Bruce could have, at the same time,
04:03put out an album that would completely change his life, which would come later, which is called Born in the USA.
04:10But instead, he put that on the shelf and he chose to put out Nebraska, a record that a lot of people aren't familiar with.
04:21Yeah, that's true.
04:22Yeah, that's true.
04:22Yeah, that's true.
04:22Yeah, that's true.
04:22Yeah, that's true.
04:23President, about that, how did you choose which songs have to sound in this movie and which ones you have to take out?
04:29Well, you don't have time to put all the songs in, so I put in songs that have personal resonance for me
04:35and that I thought had personal resonance for Bruce, whether that be Nebraska, of course, Mansion on a Hill,
04:43My Father's House, all the sort of things that speak to the themes that course through the movie.
04:51We also hear a couple of songs of Bruce's that later appear on Born in the USA, which would be Born in the USA.
04:58You hear it both acoustically and electrified with the E Street Band.
05:02We hear I'm on Fire.
05:04We hear Born to Run.
05:06And that gives you a full array of who Bruce is.
05:10How did you work with Jeremy on the voice?
05:14Because it's so peculiar, this Bruce thing's voice.
05:16So how did you work on that?
05:17Thank you.
05:18Well, we had a great vocal coach, Eric Vitro, who I think had worked with Austin Butler to become Elvis.
05:26Jeremy has a great ear.
05:27And I think he listened a lot to Bruce.
05:31And Eric Vitro was able to open Jeremy up in a way that made him sound not just like Bruce, but somewhat close, but still Jeremy.
05:41And that was the goal for me.
05:43Again, not imitation or mimicry, but to get a real human portrait.
05:49And that included hearing Jeremy's voice.
05:51And that also gives a lot of personality to this movie.
05:54Ah, thank you.
05:54Now I want to ask you about something that's going on nowadays in the industry.
05:58You probably heard this.
06:00IA actress, Tilly Norwood.
06:03Oh, yeah.
06:04I wanted to ask you about your take on that because it can change Hollywood.
06:08It can maybe be nothing.
06:09What's your take as a director?
06:10Well, let me go on record and say I will never hire Tilly Norwood or anyone like Tilly Norwood.
06:20Tilly Norwood will never be able to give a performance like Meryl Streep or Jeff Bridges or Christian Bale or Jeremy Allen White or countless others.
06:32I suspect that as our life becomes more digital and more curated and more filtered and more perfect that American audiences and I hope audiences around the world will shun Tilly Norwood and all of the sort of people that will follow behind her.
06:55And that we want people who are imperfect, people for whom we can feel a connection and that we can relate to because we will never be able to relate to Tilly Norwood.
07:07And I hope this is the last we ever hear of her.
07:10I hope so.
07:11I'm totally in your boat here.
07:12No, I wanted to ask you about that because this is a very human movie, so I would just think like...
07:19Yeah, I hope that...
07:20I don't think that I can condemn this any more strongly.
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