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The FIVE (Full Episode) October 22, 2025
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00:00Hello, everyone. I'm Emily Campagno, along with Jessica Tarloff, Jesse Waters,
00:08Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
00:20Liberals are waltzing themselves into peak derangement over the construction of Trump's
00:26big, beautiful ballroom. Hillary Clinton said, quote, it's not his house, it's your house,
00:32and he's destroying it. Gavin Newsom twirled in next, saying, quote, ripping apart the White
00:37House just like he's ripping apart the Constitution. And Elizabeth Warren sent up a smoke signal.
00:43Never mind that Barack Obama built his basketball court, Richard Nixon rolled in a bowling alley,
00:49and plenty of other presidents did a little home renovation of their own. But President Trump
00:54adds a taxpayer-free ballroom, and suddenly the left's doing the meltdown mambo.
01:00Donald Trump wants to be a king. It's the best explanation for everything he's been doing just
01:05in recent days. Just look at what he's doing right now to the White House.
01:08It does, to me, when I look at it quickly, look like a Kim Jong-un propaganda video, right,
01:14of, you know, when he does the nukes on Washington, whoever it might be. There's something disturbing
01:18about it. This unprecedented moment, as an apt metaphor, Trump's demolishing the White House,
01:23as he also demolishes our country's constitutional norms and rule of law.
01:27A perfect metaphor for how President Trump was trying to just bulldoze his political foes.
01:32I'll tell you what I don't care about. I don't care about that damn ballroom.
01:35Exactly.
01:35I'll tell you that.
01:35If you thought that was deranged, MSNBC's Jen Psaki was making some truly despicable comments
01:43about Vice President J.D. Vance's wife, Usha Vance. Watch.
01:48I think the little Manchurian candidate, J.D. Vance, wants to be president more than anything
01:55else. I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Like, are you okay? Please blink four
02:01times. We'll come over here. We'll save you. He's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter in some
02:07ways. And he's young. And Jeff Daniels, yes, Mr. Dumb and Dumber himself, is clutching his pearls
02:15and, unfortunately, his guitar over Trump's meme machine. The meme that he had where he was flying
02:22with the crown and the, you know, spewing or excrement all over the people down below.
02:28The country, America. Yeah, he's trying to, would Lincoln have done that?
02:32This is a song I wrote called Crazy World, which is how I cope.
02:37This crazy world's gone crazy.
02:41Who am I to judge?
02:44It's nice to know in a world full of hate.
02:49There's someone out there still making love.
02:51Jessica, who out there is making love? Because all I hear in their private therapy sessions gone
03:01public is total hatred toward President Trump and a complete ignoring of history where at least 13
03:08presidents did the same thing, some of them with taxpayer dimes.
03:12Okay, so I'm going to do this part quickly because I don't want to end up in a reel that you're showing
03:19tomorrow. And I'm not actually having a meltdown about the ballroom. But I will say that it is
03:23nothing like any of the other renovations. I mean, his ballroom is almost double the size of the White
03:28House itself. And he is not using taxpayer dollars. He's using his own dollars, maybe, or the dollars of
03:35companies that want favorable treatment, like Google, Palantir, all with big contracts with him.
03:41But Trump and Caroline Levitt and the whole administration would rather that this is what
03:47we're focused on. And it's really getting away from the real stories of the moment.
03:51We are in the midst of a government shutdown. The Republican caucus from New Jersey wrote to
03:56Mike Johnson saying, you've got to make a short-term deal. Our constituents cannot handle
04:00these ACA premium hikes. Our farmers are losing their businesses. No soybeans coming out of America.
04:07We bail out Argentina, and then Argentina gets the contract. That's what those texts, remember,
04:12with Scott Besson and Brooke Rollins. And just before we came on air, the National Cattlemen's Beef
04:16Association said, cattlemen and women cannot stand behind President Trump while he undercuts the future
04:22of family farmers and ranchers by importing Argentinian beef. Those are the stories of what is
04:27happening in America today. That is how Donald Trump's administration is hurting everyday Americans,
04:32most of whom voted for him. So the ballroom, it is a monstrosity. But I am choosing to talk about
04:38the shutdown and what's happening to our ranchers and our farmers.
04:42Yeah. And Jesse, so too are Americans and Trump himself, actually, who is also talking about the
04:47shutdown and the Democrats' refusal. He's just building on the side. He can actually do multiple
04:51things at one time. And I want to talk about the hypocrisy, for example, of Hillary Clinton
04:55chiming in. Her husband was one of those presidents that, he, for example, brought the
05:01putting green closer to the Oval Office. So after he enjoys his cigars, he could, I guess,
05:06take less steps. She personally oversaw a complete renovation of the inside of the dining room. The
05:12list goes on. Are they going to exhume Woodrow Wilson for destroying the colonial garden? I'm just
05:18not quite sure why now, when it's actually upgrading what prior presidents upgraded using taxpayer
05:24funds. Jessica brought up Silicon Valley company's funds. The biggest recipient of Silicon Valley
05:29donor money to this day has been Kamala Harris. There's no way to spin this. It's doing this for
05:34the people. You're very excited today, aren't you? I love this. Crooked stole about 80 grand in
05:42silverware and furniture. So, okay. Right. The thing Jessica is saying, you know, she will get invited
05:49to dance at the big, beautiful ballroom. If there's ever a Democrat president again, maybe there won't
05:54be, but if she does get the invite, she'll go and she'll look great and she'll do the cha-cha and
05:59she'll take a photo and post it and it'll be fantastic. This is like all the things Democrats
06:04do. They complain and complain. And then all of a sudden, when there's like lower taxes and lower
06:08crime, they're secretly happy about it. Barack Obama himself wanted a big, beautiful ballroom.
06:14He had to hold a state dinner in a tent, in a tent, in a tent in the United States of America.
06:21How stupid is that? This whole East wing or whatever you call it. It was just a,
06:26a ruse to cover up a bunker. There's an underground bunker down there. That's the whole reason we have
06:33this East wing in the first place. And Democrats had this whole epiphany. Remember the whole book
06:38that came out abundance. We have to be able to do things. We have to be able to build things.
06:43We have to be able to make things work. Okay. So Trump's building stuff and they're against it.
06:48They can't build anything. All they do is destroy. They destroy cities. They tear down statues.
06:54At least Trump's demolishing something and he's building it back up. Look at the Palisades.
06:59That's a demolition site. And Gavin Newsom hasn't even cut any tape there. This guy is modernizing
07:06the country. AI. We're building nuclear power plants. Bitcoin. He's rewiring world trade. We have
07:14to go into this century with the full force of American ingenuity. And if it means a big, beautiful
07:20ballroom, if it means Bitcoin, if it means a grand arch in the middle of DC, that's a good thing.
07:28Beauty, Jessica, is a good thing. And this woman talking about the marriage between JD and Usha,
07:34talk about the Obama's marriage. That marriage is a wreck. They're in marriage counseling.
07:40She should look over there. And this guy, Jeff Daniels. Okay. Trump's a meme lord. He's
07:47strafing feces over everybody. And Democrats are like, ah, wasn't like a day ago, they were like,
07:54we need to up our social media game. And they were like, Gavin's the man. He's crushing it on social
08:00media. And then Trump puts Hakeem in a sombrero and they cry. He puts a funny thing out that breaks
08:06the internet and they complain. They bring out a 70-year-old actor to play guitar. Think about how
08:12that looks. It doesn't look good. And they're mad that he's having fun. I'm curious, Dana, because
08:17you being press secretary, a lot of Trump's improvements have been toward pragmatic improvements
08:23of the grounds. He talked about the people on the lawn sinking in. He's making it a better
08:27experience for the vehicle that will drive, again, information to the people's hands. So
08:33are you supportive of all of those?
08:35I don't know. I'm pretty much a traditionalist all the time. But I do know that when your heels
08:40sink into the grass, it is embarrassing. And I do not know how the first lady, she can do it so well
08:46without sinking in in her heels. It's an astounding thing. I understand what they're doing. I also think
08:51that future presidents, if they don't like the Rose Garden look, they can change it. You can't
08:54change the East Wing situation. And I do think that, yes, the photos are a little bit jarring.
08:59And yes, it seemed like all of a sudden because they move at a very quick pace. And I think a
09:04little bit of heads up, guys, this is coming and it's going to be amazing would have been
09:08worthwhile exercise. But I also think that Democrats need to understand that they cannot swing at every
09:13pitch. They just do that. Jessica was saying the same thing that you have to ask yourself every day,
09:19what headline do you want at the end of today? And President Trump wants 25 headlines every day.
09:25And it works for them. It gets confusing to me, I think, even for me covering it. It's like,
09:30wait, where do I look? It's like, you can be a raccoon in a room full of disco balls. It's like,
09:33where do we look next? Because there are so many things that are going on. But the Democrats really
09:37have one singular focus is how do they win the midterms and how do they get back in 2028?
09:42What we've already seen is the rinse and repeat. If they're going to all of a sudden,
09:45immediately now in the first term, first year of the second term, start calling J.D. Vance,
09:50basically Hitler. So we know that you're never going to move on from Trump because they're going
09:55to try to any. It doesn't matter who it is. Jeb Bush could come back and try to run for president
09:58and they will call him Hitler and try to tie him to Trump because that's what they think is their
10:03ticket to ride. But it really has been their ticket to nowhere. And that's why they're not going to
10:07win. And I don't think they're going to win either of these gubernatorial races in the next two weeks.
10:10Wow. Big prediction by Perino. I like that. I might be wrong about one of them.
10:18Greg, what do you think? Well, you know, I seem to remember under Joe Biden, we were dealing with
10:24different issues. I know it's crazy, but I seem to remember on this show and talking to people,
10:31we talked about crime. We talked about a broken border. We talked about trans mania. We talked
10:37about the price of eggs and the price of gas. And we talked about a president who wasn't there.
10:43God, from 20 to 24, I wish we had this problem. I wish that we were sitting around talking about
10:49Joe Biden trying to fix up the White House rather than let his son do lines off the toilet in the
10:55East Wing. Hillary criticizing someone for denigrating the White House. I mean, at least when
11:01Trump wanted the floor stained, he got a professional. And it's true. Trump is building
11:07a ballroom. But for Hillary's husband, every room was a ballroom. You know what I'm saying,
11:13young lady? This is a this is a press gimmick when they focus on some ephemeral activity and
11:19they pretend it's the only thing happening. It's like, you know, doing a damning story on a fireman
11:24caught talking on his phone and leaving out the part that he had just rescued orphans and puppies
11:30from a fire. And he's on the phone calling his wife saying, honey, I adopted an orphan
11:36and a chihuahua. That part is not in the story. So instead, they say like, oh, they forget about
11:41what is Trump working on? Well, the Middle East peace deal. That was just a few days ago. That
11:46was just a few days ago. He's dealing with, you know, Putin and Zelensky. That's tough work. He's
11:50got immigration. He's got the crime, the border, you name it. Jeff Daniels is right. Lincoln would
11:56definitely not release an A.I. meme. And also Ben Franklin would never call an Uber.
12:03Thomas Jefferson would never post his orgies on Pornhub. That's for sure. It's amazing how Trump
12:10could take comedic actors, saw him there and flip them into like these humorless gas bags where he
12:16actually goes on TV. That guy is a comedic actor and he's as funny as shingles. You know, I think the
12:22issue is, is that these people, and I'll say everybody from De Niro to Jeff Daniels, they have
12:30a problem with Trump because he's real. He's not playing a role. These people find joy in their
12:38characters and being inside a character. But when they're not in it, they're detached. They're
12:47dissociated. You know, they're the reality and their thoughts and the world around them. It's
12:52not they're not connected to it. Imagine your whole life where you happy you're being someone else and
12:57you're and then you're faced with somebody like Trump who's happy being Trump and you don't
13:03understand it. It's like these are people that are just not comfortable when they aren't acting.
13:09That's what makes a great actor is not having no self, not having no self, not having a self.
13:14Anyway, that's my psychoanalysis for today. I'm afraid this is all the time we have. Emily,
13:20it's $300 and I'll take a check. Venmo on its way. All right, guys, up next,
13:24the left is now fighting for illegal street vendors. That's next.
13:44is what we've got when it's hot, it's hot.
13:50I'm so out! I'm so out! I'm so out! I'm so out!
13:56You guys gotta chill!
14:03Chaos breaking out in NYC's Chinatown. ICE agents raiding at Canal
14:08Street and going after sidewalk vendors selling counterfeit purses. They bagged nine illegal
14:13aliens with rap sheets, including robbery, domestic violence, assaulting law enforcement,
14:18counterfeiting drug trafficking, forgery. But right on cue, the awful shock troops showed up
14:24to fight on their behalf.
14:27Show your face! Come on, what are you scared about? What the f**k are you scared about?
14:35They're fat f**king Nazis! They're abducting people from their homes and their schools and their jobs,
14:40and they know what they're doing is wrong, and they don't give a s**t! Because they're heartless monsters!
14:45Oh, she's a barrel of laughs. And now House Dems are launching a master ice tracker, or MIT,
14:52to keep tabs on federal agents looking to round up illegals. All right, I'm going to go to you first,
14:57Jessica, because we live very close to each other. I am by this area every single day when I walk my dog.
15:04You cannot walk there. It is, and I'm going to use a phrase that I do not use often,
15:10it's a third world country. It is aggressive. It is the smell of drugs. There are fights.
15:18It's a drug-fueled haze of men yelling at each other, and these women are defending men who use
15:24this money, send this money to organized crime groups that then do it in drug and human trafficking.
15:30So they're actually defending guys that are really bad to women.
15:34This would not have been the moment that I would have spoken out against ICE.
15:41You know, it is not only, you know, a blight on the neighborhood in terms of navigability and what it looks like
15:49and convenience and all of the things, but a lot of these guys are actually the bad hombres
15:56that Trump was talking about, but from Africa, mostly.
15:59So, you know, when this happens and when there's footage of it like this,
16:05it supersedes the story that I think is very valid to tell about what ICE is doing in other places.
16:13And you saw as well that the NYPD posted that they weren't involved in this at all in this particular raid,
16:19which obviously got a lot of national attention.
16:20But the NYPD does regularly do this or breaks it up.
16:24They're not necessarily taking them in to deport them.
16:27And so I'm not thrilled with this particular example.
16:31I, you know, there's a lot of reason to not like ICE.
16:35I would not have been in that group.
16:37I was there, I guess it was, I don't know, it was Saturday.
16:40And I watched these guys surround two cops, New York, and just mock them and aggressively basically surround
16:50and go like, go back to your desk job.
16:52They just like basically left.
16:55They couldn't do anything.
16:56Instead of saying, go back to your country.
16:57Yeah, they were like, go back to your office and just screaming at them.
17:01So this is another example of somehow you're supposed to accept this behavior.
17:06And Trump's saying, no, you don't.
17:08You don't have to live this way.
17:09Well, the issue of tracking and exposing ICE is really a gigantic problem in the country.
17:13And what's crazy about it, it's being encouraged by elected leaders.
17:17I don't know the details of what the House Democrats are talking about creating in terms of an ICE tracker,
17:22but that seems wildly inappropriate, if not illegal.
17:27The other thing is, there's a group, I just had to pull up my phone here.
17:30It's called A21.
17:31It's a nonprofit organization that I've been in touch with in the past.
17:35And they said, in addition to the problems that you have with these illegal immigrants
17:39and the crimes that they had committed, is that most of these products, not only are they counterfeit,
17:44but they are made with slave labor, often child slave labor.
17:47So if you want to ask, like, how can I help stop child slave labor?
17:50Like, I imagine that that young woman screaming probably hates the idea of child slave labor.
17:55But yet she was there to mock the ICE agents that was trying to break up the situation.
18:01I also find that it's unsafe and it's uncomfortable.
18:03It's not just Canal Street, which I've never been to, but just like around here.
18:07Yeah.
18:08When I see people getting off of the tour buses and like, oh, I'm so excited by this fake bag,
18:15it really drives me crazy.
18:16Well, as you know, I'm against slave labor now.
18:19Emily, I need to ask you this because I can't ask Jesse this because then he'll get us into trouble.
18:27Why do you think it's women?
18:30Like, why do women like they call it suicidal empathy where they they they give their compassion
18:37to something that would actually destroy them?
18:39I don't understand.
18:40I mean, I kind of understand it, but I'm wondering what you think.
18:43I don't know because I'm missing that compassion chip.
18:45So I feel like you should ask Jessica that I think it's for me.
18:48I hold nothing but contempt for these individuals.
18:51The quote that I heard on the closed captioning, we know that you are a Nazi, you ethnic cleansing
18:59agenda.
19:01It it is horrifying to me.
19:04There's this isn't compassion.
19:05This isn't care.
19:06This isn't stewardship for others.
19:08This is absolutely unacceptable to me.
19:13And I spoke with a New Jersey state trooper who founded the Troopers United Foundation.
19:17He works for these agents every day that he's on part of these joint missions.
19:20And he talked about let's reminder, you know, you brought about the government shutdown.
19:23A lot of these federal agents right now, they're not getting paid.
19:26So we are watching them on TV.
19:28They're out there because they believe in the mission, because they are purpose driven.
19:31They are putting their lives on the line.
19:33They travel around the country for days at a time with their families at home watching
19:36this on TV.
19:38And many of them, because of their federal backgrounds, you know, they're not used to
19:41and they're not quite trained for being screamed at and surrounded by protesters.
19:45They train for precision, not mob psychology.
19:49And now we have them thrust into these public volatile situations that should be a clean law
19:54enforcement operation.
19:55And all of a sudden, you have these bystanders that think of themselves as virtuous and are
20:00absolutely interfering with a federal operation.
20:04And they are creating the chaos.
20:06Look how mad she is.
20:08Exactly.
20:08But look, look at that.
20:09You are watching a federal agent that instead of using his resources and his physiology to
20:14protect the operation, he's protecting himself from a fellow civilian.
20:18This is weighing on them.
20:20The constant moral scrutiny, the everyday getting chipped at.
20:23Is this the moment that will define my career, being caught on camera or that will lead to
20:27an injury?
20:29All of this has gotten so much bigger.
20:30And the fact that even even you mentioned respectfully, there's lots of reasons to not
20:34like ice.
20:35These men and women have their lives on the line.
20:38That is ice.
20:39Her with her Washington commander's hat.
20:42Happy redskins.
20:43And she's the one that's going to go home and pat herself on the back after she gets
20:46DoorDash for $46 for her latte.
20:49They are doing nothing but interfering and making these agents even more vulnerable to
20:55injury.
20:55And I think they need to be arrested stat.
20:57You know, Jesse, there's a couple of variables here.
20:59One, I do believe that these women are unhappy because they buy the fake Gucci bags.
21:04But but but number two, they don't have any that they don't have any connection with the
21:10people who actually make this stuff.
21:12All this money can be traced back to terrorist groups against slave labor.
21:15But they don't care.
21:16They just virtue signaling.
21:18Yeah, I'm just mad I don't have any place to go Christmas shopping for Emma.
21:22I used to clean up.
21:23She had no idea.
21:24She has so many nice bags in her closet.
21:27I like how these conservative influencers like told Trump about this in like 24 hours
21:32later.
21:33These guys were gone.
21:35He's like America's concierge.
21:37Do you say that?
21:38Is that the right way?
21:39Yeah, I think you did.
21:39OK.
21:40And you're like, Mr. President.
21:41And he's like, well, let me do something about that.
21:44Um, let me see if I can help you with that.
21:46And he's always there with a solution.
21:48He got me reservations at Mr.
21:49Chow.
21:50I mean, honestly, he would.
21:52He would call and get you a table.
21:54Imagine Jessica when Biden was president.
21:56She could say, you know, it would be great if we had an electric car charging station right
22:00outside of the Midtown Tunnel.
22:02And like a day later, Biden would be down there breaking ground.
22:05He doesn't listen.
22:07Trump listens.
22:08And that's beautiful.
22:09And I love the conservative influencers are actually fighting crime and Democrat influencers
22:15are actually causing crime.
22:17They ram their cars into ICE agents and no one's saying, have you heard?
22:22No Democrat is saying, can you guys stop attacking ICE?
22:26I haven't heard a single Democrat say, stop assaulting ICE agents.
22:31That's crazy.
22:32And I was talking to Annapolino Luna, who I love to say the name.
22:37Yes.
22:37Annapolino Luna.
22:38And she said she overheard Democrats on the House floor saying that their whole strategy
22:43here is to attack ICE to boost Hispanic turnout in the midterm elections.
22:49So they're only doing this.
22:52They're only doing this for votes.
22:54They're putting ICE agents' lives in danger for votes.
22:58Always.
22:59All right.
23:01Up next, James Carville fillets a Democrat who's open to gender-neutral Olympics.
23:06I don't know why sometimes I get frightened.
23:14You can see my eyes.
23:20Are the Democrats really this stupid?
23:26James Carville nuking a liberal California candidate for governor who's open to the idea of the
23:322028 gender-neutral Olympics.
23:36What?
23:37But I have a lot of friends that have daughters that play soccer, play volleyball, run track,
23:43play softball.
23:45You know what their parents don't want them doing?
23:47For good reason.
23:48Is competing with males.
23:50What you're doing, you understand what you're doing, to try to, to some kind of cheap political
23:56point with a bunch of left-wing zombies, is you're ruining the women that work their
24:02off.
24:03All right, Dana, the gender-neutral Olympics.
24:08Yeah, that doesn't seem like something Fox Sports is going to cover.
24:11I think we're going to take a pass on that.
24:13You know, once again, James Carville is probably somebody that Democrats don't want to listen
24:17to, but he's not wrong.
24:18And just yesterday, what's actually weird about this absurdity is that in the gubernatorial
24:24race in Virginia, which is just a couple of weeks away, you still have a Democratic candidate
24:28in Abigail Spamberger.
24:30Sorry about it.
24:31But, you know, they can't just definitively talk about girls and sports and gender-appropriate
24:39bathrooms and just, like, leave it at that.
24:41They are still, like, sort of tiptoeing around it, even as we found out late last week or
24:46this week, that the numbers of young people identifying as trans or gender-neutral has
24:52plummeted, as if the fad is over.
24:55Yeah, you can't field an Olympic team if no one's identifying as trans.
24:59Well, we know Spamberger has no balls because she's not standing up for women.
25:04I think you've got to see why, not just what the issue is, but how did it spread so quickly?
25:09And it comes down to the framing.
25:11If you look back at, like, all the trans stuff, it was all benefits, no consequences, which
25:18has no part in reality.
25:20Everything is trade-offs.
25:21If you go on statins, they're going to tell you there are side effects.
25:24If you're going to move to a new city, oh, there's going to be a downside with the traveling.
25:29If you have kids, there's a downside and an upside.
25:32But transitioning your kid, oh, it's all upside, right?
25:36Because if you talk about the downside, you're a transphobe.
25:41That was the power of this contagion, is that they silenced the consequences and they redefined
25:47the logic of trade-offs as hate speech.
25:51In fact, it probably wasn't just trans.
25:53If you talked about the downside of an open border, then that made you racist.
25:58It's crazy.
25:59There is a downside to this stuff and nobody did it.
26:01And then what that did was that made it incredibly attractive for people because not just the
26:05kids, the parents, the teachers, the activists, they all kind of became part of this, participated
26:12in this magical thing that was all upside.
26:16Never mind that you're going to butcher a child.
26:18That never comes up.
26:19There's no data.
26:20There's no science.
26:20And there was no journalism.
26:22Nobody talked about it.
26:23Nobody talked about it.
26:24And it's so chilly to see how amazingly fast that it's spread.
26:28So we have to, again, I said this last week, you have to arm your children on the ability
26:35to identify a social contagion.
26:38And maybe one of the things is, is that if no one tells you about the downside.
26:42Yeah.
26:42And they did that so you couldn't debate them.
26:45Yes.
26:45And then when the voters had a say, we let them know how we felt.
26:49And then they shot Charlie Kirk.
26:51Yeah.
26:53Sorry, but it's true.
26:54It's an 80-20 issue.
27:00Don't be stupid.
27:02I think it's a 99-1 issue.
27:04Well, it's not.
27:05A client, actually, actually more than that.
27:06Give her a chance.
27:08Oh, sorry.
27:09I'm sorry.
27:10I'm sorry.
27:10No, no.
27:11Don't apologize to me.
27:13No, it's so funny because the more time she says it's 80-20 and shuts up, you jump down
27:17her throat.
27:17But it's okay.
27:18It's what you usually do.
27:19It's just like, when it was a guest.
27:21I had a client, 12 years old, California, flashed by a male adult perp, chased her for
27:28a little bit.
27:28So she called the cops, participated in a lineup.
27:31There were searches for him, right?
27:33It was a felony charge.
27:34And now we're supposed to tell our daughters that when that happens in a locker room, that
27:40it's all of a sudden okay.
27:42And I think about this woman who was prosecuted in Arizona at a mall.
27:46And she was breaking up with her boyfriend and he had cheated on her.
27:49So she's like found fines out there and she's like taking off her clothes like, this isn't
27:53good enough for you.
27:54You know, it's maybe not appropriate, but sort of understandable.
27:57Well, she was charged with lewd and lascivious and also a felony because there were children
28:01around her at the mall.
28:02And so you take these two examples and one of them abjectly frightening and one clearly
28:07sort of checking a box, but I get the reasoning behind.
28:09And somehow that has been laid to waste during this entire movement where, for example, the
28:14California Interscholastic Federation, they estimate that there are single digits transgender
28:20athletes in the state of California with 6 million athletes just up to high school.
28:25And so people who say, oh, but that only affects it's only a couple of people.
28:28Well, what about the multiple teams in the Mountain West Conference that forfeited at San
28:33Jose State University because they didn't want to get mauled in the face by a volleyball
28:37spiked by a dude?
28:38So the argument that this somehow is private or doesn't affect anyone or somehow magically
28:44overnight comes out of the criminal law box and becomes in the moral transgender rights
28:50box to me is sickening.
28:52You know how you handle the transgender Olympics, Emily?
28:54You let the women take steroids and then you have the transgender guys be clean.
29:00And that makes it more fair.
29:02Problem solved.
29:03There you go.
29:04Problem solved.
29:05You are a peacemaker.
29:06Up next.
29:07He's not just anchoring the news.
29:09He's anchoring history.
29:10Brett Baer is here to preview his new book about Teddy Roosevelt.
29:14Brett Baer showed up early to work today and for good reason.
29:33He's got a brand new book hot off the press.
29:34It's called To Rescue the American Spirit, Teddy Roosevelt and the Birth of a Superpower.
29:39Plus, he's got a new Fox Nation special streaming right now.
29:41And he joins us live on the five set with this beautiful book.
29:45How's it going?
29:45It's good.
29:46You know, it's so good to be on this side instead of the handover.
29:49I never know what's coming.
29:52You love the handover?
29:53I hate it.
29:53I do.
29:53I love it.
29:54Don't you think it's good that we got it back in?
29:55I think it's great.
29:56Yes.
29:56It's like a box of chocolates.
29:58I never know what I'm going to get.
29:59I hate when they say no toss.
30:00But then sometimes you pop up anyway.
30:02Yeah.
30:03But we never know when you're going to be on your own show.
30:05I do listen to the show.
30:07You do?
30:08Your show.
30:08I can tell.
30:09Yeah.
30:10I pay attention.
30:10Tell us about this book.
30:11We're so kidding about it.
30:12Thank you, Emily.
30:14Listen, this character, who is the 26th president, is larger than life.
30:18And I think it jumps off the page.
30:20And, you know, he is somebody who has a long history.
30:25And the stories inside are really, really interesting.
30:27You know, here in New York, he was a New York state legislator, New York police commissioner.
30:33He was New York governor.
30:34He goes on to be vice president because basically the party says we got to put him someplace.
30:39He's a troublemaker.
30:40And they put him in vice president to make him disappear.
30:43And then six months later, William McKinley is assassinated in Buffalo.
30:48And he becomes president, the youngest president ever in our country of 42.
30:51But it's amazing, the stories in here.
30:55And I think to look at history is really important.
30:58And one of the stories, I mean, he was shot.
31:00Yeah.
31:00I mean, just like Trump, there's a lot of similarities here.
31:03And he got right back up.
31:05So in Milwaukee, he gets shot.
31:07He's giving a speech.
31:08The bullet hits an eyeglass case and a 50 page speech.
31:12It goes into his chest and there's a lot of blood.
31:15And he pulls open his jacket and it's just full of blood on his shirt.
31:18And he keeps speaking for 45 minutes in Milwaukee.
31:22And that's when he was running in third party.
31:25He doesn't win.
31:26But Woodrow Wilson eventually takes the presidency.
31:29Wow.
31:29Yeah, there is a lot.
31:30There's actually a lot of similarities.
31:32OK, so Teddy Roosevelt with Trump.
31:35Yeah.
31:35New Yorker.
31:37He was born of privilege, but had this amazing connection with workers.
31:41He loved horses and Trump, you know, Stormy Daniels.
31:46Greg.
31:47I had to work towards that joke.
31:48Anywho, I did.
31:50You know, I finished reading the book.
31:51It's fantastic.
31:53Is there something about Teddy Roosevelt that we might not know about that might surprise us?
31:58So he was a boxer and his dad.
32:01He starts he was born with really bad asthma and he can't even leave the house.
32:06And his dad kind of bucks him up and says, you've got to get physically fit.
32:10He goes outdoors.
32:11That's why he loves the outdoors.
32:12But he's a boxer all his life.
32:14He's New York governor.
32:15He hires a boxing coach, comes in and the boxing coach is like, I'm not going to hit this guy.
32:19It's the governor.
32:20And he gets really mad at him and says, you have to hit me.
32:23So the boxing coach hits him and then he knocks out the boxing coach.
32:27He is like a tough, tough guy who, you know, fought for everything.
32:33I have a couple of questions.
32:35Charles Krauthammer, Charles Krauthammer, used to say that young people, if they didn't know what they wanted to major in, he encouraged all of them to study history.
32:44So what has what has benefited you in your current role as the anchor of Special Report and doing all of these major interviews around the world with world leaders that your book writing has helped you?
32:55That's an awesome question.
32:57It's the sixth presidential biography.
32:59I think I've been here for everyone.
33:01Eisenhower, Reagan, FDR, Grant, Washington and now Teddy Roosevelt.
33:06But each time there is something that affects current day, always something that we can look back at.
33:12That's it's cyclical history.
33:14And I think it tells us about where we're going to go.
33:17There's a lot of similar.
33:17Where are we going to go?
33:18Yeah.
33:18Well, yeah.
33:19I mean, it tells us where are we going to go?
33:22What's happening?
33:23Well, I mean, I think there's a battle for being a global leader.
33:28Are we going to are we going to a Nobel Peace Prize?
33:30I bet you'll get a Nobel Peace Prize next year.
33:32He's the only one that ever got one.
33:33That's true.
33:34And you've seen it in the White House.
33:36I've seen it in the Roosevelt Room.
33:37My other question is, would he have wanted a big, beautiful ballroom?
33:41He redid the White House completely.
33:43He was one of 14 presidents who renovated the White House.
33:47And I don't know if they focused on the girders in the construction, but he would have wanted the big ballroom.
33:54A hundred percent.
33:55Congrats.
33:56Thank you very much.
33:57Great to have you.
33:57And we'll look forward to more awkward handoffs.
33:59I'll tell you what, Brit Hume would really like this.
34:01Amazing.
34:02He would really like this.
34:03It's a captivating read, I have to tell.
34:05I mean, the great Dolores Kearns Godwin.
34:08Just discussing.
34:09They don't have my bowling shirt.
34:12All right, Brett.
34:13Thank you so much.
34:14His book, To Rescue the American Spirit, it is out now.
34:16And the fastest is up next.
34:18Dolores Kearns.
34:19Welcome back.
34:35You probably just touched your face and didn't even notice.
34:38It turns out that we do it 800 times a day.
34:41It's your body's natural way of self-soothing under mental strain.
34:45Dana, are you up?
34:46Well, as I was just reading for this segment, I realized I was tapping my chin and my cheek.
34:51And I realized, I'm like, apparently I'm under a lot of mental strain and I'm super stressed out.
34:55Yeah.
34:55But if everybody does it, then that must mean that your stress isn't that big a deal.
35:01Or if everybody's equally stressed, then you're not really stressed.
35:05Jesse, you're kind of not a stressed out person.
35:08No, because when I go home before the show and I'm preparing to sit next to you, I go like this for about an hour and a half.
35:15And that really relaxes me.
35:17So nothing you can say gets under my skin.
35:20I didn't mean just me.
35:22I meant like your whole life.
35:22You're in the biggest stress of my life.
35:25Right back at you, buddy.
35:27Greg.
35:29Well, I mean, if you had this face, wouldn't you touch it?
35:33I mean, it's like, I can't get enough of it.
35:35My mom used to walk in.
35:36I used to have to lock the door when I was a kid because she would walk in on me while I was just touching my face.
35:40At least that's what I told her.
35:42Do you ever think about your skull?
35:45Because you only see skulls from the dead people, but you know you've got one.
35:49Like, there's a skull.
35:51You've got a skull that, like, is really scary looking.
35:54I don't think about that.
35:55Oh, you should.
35:56It freaks you out.
35:56I have a skull.
35:58You have a, we all have these skulls and they're just moving around.
36:01But you don't really know that until you, like, die.
36:04Until you pick the bucket.
36:05Yeah.
36:06You're stressing me out.
36:08I do because my head is weirdly shaped in the back, so I've often thought about it what it looks like without hair.
36:13Wait, what do you mean what it looks like without hair?
36:15It's like flat at the top and it comes out of the body.
36:17Like from when you are a baby?
36:18Probably.
36:19I'll say this.
36:20That I hate when people touch their face.
36:23Don't touch your face around me.
36:24I think it is disgusting.
36:24Dan and I are both like.
36:25It carries diseases.
36:26And, you know, when I cured myself of that habit of being conscious when you touch your face?
36:30COVID.
36:31Remember that?
36:32And so now, A, I never touch my face.
36:35What did you have before this show?
36:37A cappuccino.
36:38But literally, please don't touch your face.
36:40It is how you get, do you know how great?
36:42You know how I broke my, exactly, I broke the habit of touching my face, smearing my fingers and feces.
36:48And I would, like, I would just, like, have it on my hands and I would just, because the moment I, yeah, it's really smart.
36:55It's really smart.
36:56Yeah.
36:56Sorry, stop biting your nail.
36:58One more thing's up next.
37:00Before we get to one more thing, guys, get your tickets to the Fox Nation Patriot Awards.
37:20They are on sale now.
37:22You can also grab seats to see The Five live on November 6th at the Tilla Center in New York.
37:28Go to foxnation.com slash Patriot Awards.
37:31All right, Greg, one more thing.
37:32Thank you, Emily.
37:34Tonight, 10 p.m., Kat Tim, Joe Mackey, Emily Wilson, Tyrus, tonight at 10, let's do this.
37:41Greg Sexy Bear News.
37:43All right, everybody, let's go to Oakland.
37:46Roll the tape, huh?
37:47Yes.
37:48Yeah.
37:49Yeah.
37:50Oh, this is a grizzly bear at the Oakland Zoo.
37:53I'm like, look at him with this car.
37:54It's getting a little hot there.
37:55They go in the water to cool off, but, uh.
37:57Greg, Greg.
37:58Hey, Greg, I'm busy.
37:59I'm trying to do this one more thing.
38:01Why didn't you call me last night?
38:03I was waiting by the phone.
38:04Greg, I'm doing a one more thing, which is just leave me alone.
38:07Look, Greg, you're either in or you're out.
38:10I'm tired of you just teasing me along.
38:13Either just say you love me or just move on.
38:15Jesse, save us.
38:17No, you can't cut off for you.
38:19I didn't know what to do.
38:20Yeah, you never rap.
38:21You never rap him.
38:22All right, sumo wrestlers.
38:24They went to London.
38:26This is the first time sumo wrestling has ever been outside of Japan.
38:30Actually, it was one other time, but we're not counting it.
38:31Five-day tournament to show Japan's rich culture.
38:36And they're clad in very little.
38:39And that's why we love it.
38:40That's why I love it, mostly.
38:41That's why you're showing it right now.
38:42And the winner of the tournament, this man in blue.
38:44Not going to pronounce his name.
38:45You know what they call this in Japan?
38:46What?
38:47The view.
38:50Tonight, Jesse, what is prime time?
38:51We have Tulsi Gabbard.
38:53Britt Hume liked that joke.
38:55Dana Lash, Billy Bush, and Madison Allard.
38:57Nice, Dana.
38:58Oh, my word.
38:58Well, a dachshund from Tampa is taking over the internet with her resting smile face.
39:04This little dachshund.
39:05She's missing a tooth, apparently, but it makes her look like she's always smiling.
39:09She's got a little crooked smile.
39:10Cute one.
39:10Her name is Bella.
39:11Also, I did a great interview.
39:13I think it was great.
39:14You be the judge.
39:15With Rabbi Angela Buchdahl.
39:17She's the first Asian American and woman to lead New York Central Synagogue.
39:21And she has a new book out called Heart of a Stranger.
39:23A female rabbi, you say?
39:25Yes.
39:26Well, my goodness, and you say she's Asian?
39:30What is the world?
39:31An Asian female rabbi?
39:33And that's why it's so interesting.
39:35Wow.
39:36Why, I never.
39:38What's next?
39:39Men marrying men?
39:41Jessica.
39:43You got a very cute snow leopard seeing her first pumpkin.
39:48Oh, cute.
39:49Yeah.
39:50Oh, that's adorable.
39:51Three days in a row.
39:52Guys, I want to show you this because this is awesome.
39:54This is a retired U.S. Air Force canine reunited with her handler for retirement.
39:59Thank you for your service, both of you.
40:01Erica, the canine, and Tara.
40:02She gets to stay with her now?
40:04Yep, forever.
40:05God bless you both.
40:05A female Asian rabbi.
40:06Thank you for us, guys.
40:07Have a great night.
40:09Emily, it's been great being with you and Brit Hume down there.
40:11Thanks.
40:11That's why it's so interesting.
40:12Hey!
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