Ellen Greenberg's 2011 death from multiple stab wounds in the back of her head and neck was ruled a suicide once again ... but a forensic pathologist tells TMZ that's "biomechanically implausible."
01:04They also visited undetermined in this case for a bit.
01:08And, guys, I've got to tell you, I worked for the coroner in New Orleans.
01:11I worked for the ME in Atlanta as a senior investigator.
01:15Fellas, I have never, in the totality of my career as an academic and also as a practitioner in the field,
01:22I've never seen somebody jump to three of the different manners.
01:26We've only got five to choose from.
01:28So over the course of all these years, they vacillated between all three of these at one point in time or another.
01:35Is it possible for someone to have stabbed themselves that many times, maybe one, maybe two, but to stab yourself that many times when clearly you would be incapacitated?
01:47Yeah, it's biomechanically implausible.
01:51I've got a fake knife here that we use for crime scenes.
01:55And when you think about this, this knife is going into the body multiple times.
02:00And not only on the anterior aspect of the body, but the posterior aspect.
02:04If everyone at home will just for a moment think about just having a pretend knife, not a real knife, a pretend knife in their hand,
02:11and try to extend your hand over your shoulder like this and reach your upper back and also into your neck over and over and over and over again.
02:23How many folks out there have ever experienced a paper cut?
02:26How painful that is.
02:28Just think about that.
02:29That pain center fires every single time.
02:32And this is going over and over and over again.
02:35There's no indication that she was in some kind of mental state where she would react in this kind of frenzied manner like this.
02:44A couple of years later, there was a neuropathologist that took a look at the samples of her brain stem, if you will,
02:52the spinal cord coming off the base of the brain.
02:56And her conclusion was, was that in that particular area where they had identified that the knife had passed through,
03:04guys, there was no hemorrhage in that area.
03:06No hemorrhage whatsoever.
03:08So that leads us scientifically to conclude that this is potentially, potentially a post-mortem injury.
03:16There's never been like a presser, you know, where these people have been asked questions specifically about this.
03:22Explain your rationale for this, you know, because we won't understand.
03:26And that's one of the best ways to do this, right?
03:28You want to clear the decks, you want to get the information out there and explain the scientific methodology that you arrived at this conclusion with.
03:36And I'm not saying that it would satisfy everybody, but it would certainly give people a bit more understanding because this is, in fact, a complex case.
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