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LIVE NOW: Join us on Beyond the Headlines as Regional Director Joel Erestain of the Office of Civil Defense provides a comprehensive update on the recent earthquake in Northern Cebu, covering damage assessment and ongoing response operations.
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01:30To help us understand the situation on the ground and what's being done to support affected residents, we're joined by Joel Erastain, Regional Director of the Office of Civil Defense.
01:43Director Erastain, thank you for joining us today again.
01:47Good afternoon, sir.
01:48Mayong uto po, kanatong tanahan.
01:53Mayong uto po.
01:55Na-miss ko kayo.
01:56I wish I was there with you.
01:59I'm there with you now.
02:00Yes.
02:01Si, si...
02:02Pero right now, I'm here in San Remigio.
02:05Oh, okay.
02:06Galing po kami ng Bugo City in Medellin to check yung evacuation centers po natin.
02:14Two of which are 10 cities at dito naman po smart homes dito naman sa San Remigio.
02:19Some of the residents karoon, Director Joel Ba, they are still sleeping outside of their houses, no?
02:30Oh, yes.
02:33Nagtayo sila ng kanilang mga makeshift tents para hindi sila...
02:39Usually naman, ang ginagawa nila, sa gabi sila natutulog sa tents.
02:45Pagka araw, doon naman sila sa bahay nila, ilalong yung mga hindi naman masyado ang damage.
02:52Pero doon sa mga talagang totally damage, hindi na talaga safe pabalikin po ang mga kababayan natin doon sa ground.
02:59Okay.
03:00Ilalang bahay o tahanan.
03:02Okay.
03:03Sir, can you, since, you know, nasa north ka ngayon, can you describe the current situation in Bugo and other northern towns right after the...
03:14Yung aftershock na 6.0 ba yun?
03:185.8 po.
03:20Ah, 5.8 na aftershock yesterday.
03:22Yes.
03:22Ah, yun lang. I asked the people here kung ano yung pakiramdam din. In fact, may mga ano tayo, may mga responders tayo na nanggaling pa ng ibang probisyon.
03:37Hindi, not from Cebu. First time nila makaramdam ng gano'n na lindol.
03:42So, makikita nyo naman po yung mga tao. Medyo nakaka-trauma din.
03:47Eh, ako nga po nasa Lapu-Lapu City. Tarako na trauma din. Pero may gano'n din. Pero ano pa kaya yung mga kababayan po natin dito?
03:57The reason why, at night, ayaw nilang matulog sa kanilang sa loob ng bahay nila.
04:04Kasi kung matatandaan po natin, dalawang malalakas na earthquakes nangyari at night time.
04:12The first one was right before 10pm. And then, ito pong, ito pong, another big one, 5.8, eh, mga launa, 1.06am.
04:25Kaya, either patulog na sila or tulog na-tulog na sila when the earthquake struck.
04:36So, medyo nakaka-ano nga po. Actually, nga yun na sabi ko, sana magkaroon ng earthquake drill ng gabi.
04:45Ah, yeah.
04:45So, yun na nga po, nangyari gabi nga. Pero, when we went around, they were saying that,
04:54buti na lang din daw, gabi nangyari. Kasi may mga structures na mas maraming tao pagka-araw,
05:04eh, mas maraming kapinsanaan, o maraming mas kasila.
05:09Mga, o pang-upisina po, yung mga pantrabahong structures ba.
05:13Um, yeah, because you mentioned earlier noon na some would prefer to sleep outside, no?
05:18At night time.
05:19At night time, no?
05:20So, are there ongoing assessments on the existing structures ba?
05:27Those who, quote-unquote, survived the earthquake?
05:31Para we can...
05:32Um, yes na po. Ang structures na nagkaroon ng assessment at the public structures, yun, inikuton po yan.
05:41Yung mga bahay kasi, siyempre, private properties yan, nasa loob yan ng mga, na mga private na tahanan eh, di ba?
05:49Ay, private na lupa or properties ka.
05:51Kaya, hindi natin basta-basta mapasok.
05:54However, may mga kasama po tayo sa FIVOX, nakapasok, ah, dahil na-check yung fault line.
06:02Hmm.
06:03O, yun, yun, yun, na-assess natin yun.
06:06At, kasi, talagang iikutan din naman sila ng disod at saka ng NHA eh.
06:10Then, tinutulungan po naman yung mga pamilya kung saan yung may mga damaged houses at saka yung mga totally damaged.
06:18So, who will eventually, what's the expectation?
06:24Will it be just the home owners who will assess their own homes?
06:27Or are we expecting there will be coordinated efforts with other agencies also?
06:34Or is there an LGU effort na declaring na, okay, this is a no-build zone because of the sinkholes and the fault line?
06:45Meron ganun po ba?
06:46Ah, ang ginagawa po niyan, ah, it's not the LGU that determines that, but the FIVOX at saka MGB.
06:55Okay.
06:55Oh, kasi mahirap din naman kasi kung yung LGU's ang ano eh, ang taga to, ang mismo magde-declara.
07:05Kailangan nilang tulong yan from MGB at PIVOLS.
07:09They will also have to depend on the experts.
07:15Meron na po yung MGB.
07:19Nakakapag-determine na sila kung ano ang mga areas na may sinkholes or subsidence at saka liquefaction.
07:27At yan po, nire-recommend nila ng no-build zones.
07:34Kung no-build zone din, does that also mean that these areas is parang no entry for...
07:41Parang ma-isolate siya para walang accidents?
07:47No human mamakapasok doon?
07:50Siguro it depends on the damage.
07:56For example, kung yung sinkholes, masahad ng malalim.
08:00Talagang ipaiiwasan po natin yan.
08:03Sir, at the moment, ano ba yung situation on the risk management aspect?
08:10Saan na ba tayo? Anong phase ba tayo? Relief pa rin ba?
08:14Early recovery po tayo.
08:15Early recovery po po tayo.
08:17Kasama po po siya ng relief.
08:19Okay.
08:20However, in that early recovery stage, we are already looking at rehabilitation.
08:25Okay.
08:26We are preparing for the post-disaster needs analysis.
08:32Kasama na po niya assessment.
08:33Kasi patapos na po ang ating rapid disaster assessment and needs analysis.
08:39Inaktay na natin ang imang agencies kasi for their infrastructure but on the part of OCD,
08:46nagkaroon tayo ng multi-agency approach.
08:52So nag-ikot na po tayo.
08:55And then nagkaroon ng inang assessment.
08:57And yung assessment niyan, pinakasa na natin para at least makita kung ano yung dapat bigyan ka agad ng kaukolang pondo para mapagawa ka agad.
09:09Kasi continuity ang habol natin.
09:13Sa public service should continue.
09:17And how do we continue that?
09:19So may mga infrastructure kailangan natin unahin para matuloy-tuloy ang ating servisyo publiko.
09:26When you say na the assessments are ongoing and patapos na siya,
09:32does the assessment also include school buildings and other public infrastructure na we can categorically say already na
09:43even if there will be aftershocks, these schools or public buildings can withstand?
09:49Tama po yun.
09:51Actually, supposedly unahin nga natin ang DepEd or yung school buildings.
09:57However, the DepEd already has its own RDNA.
10:04They have their own process.
10:07So unahin natin sila.
10:09And I think they're done already with the assessment.
10:12We're just waiting for the report.
10:16Kasi ang damages ng DepEd umabot hanggang south eh.
10:23Gamit.
10:24Agad Si Pusiti pang meron pa eh.
10:26May reported.
10:27Sir, ano yung immediate action ng OCD na ginawa nyo right after the earthquake struck?
10:38Which earthquake?
10:39The first earthquake?
10:40The first one.
10:41The September 30th.
10:42Yes.
10:43The first one eh.
10:44So we had to check our own office first.
10:46So that when we checked, lumabas muna kami siyempre.
10:51Tak-government din.
10:52Paglabas namin.
10:53Then ah, ah, pag ito, we had to check, we had to check our office.
11:01Pag makita namin na safe.
11:03We went inside.
11:04We turned on our EOC already.
11:07Tapos ah, pumunta tayo kagad sa Capitolio.
11:11We had a meeting with ah, with the Governor.
11:14Hmm.
11:15Okay.
11:16Yes.
11:17Tapos yun.
11:18And then meeting with the Governor.
11:19And we deployed all ah, we deployed responders, ay responders from Lapu-Lapu City as our own
11:27responders ah, contingent from OCD 7 din.
11:30And then ah, yun.
11:31We turned on the EOC.
11:33And then later on the day, ah, nagtayo tayo ng ano, nagtayo tayo ng command post ah, right
11:40ah, inside Bugo City.
11:42Sir, is it true na si Secretary Guibo was the first national government official who arrived
11:50in Bugo?
11:51Ah, ah, ah, I suppose so.
11:55Kasi naghelicopter din po, naggalin po sa amin.
11:57Yes.
11:58Okay.
11:59Ah, and then ah, he met also with ah, with ah, Secretary Dizon there.
12:04Okay.
12:05Yes.
12:06Opo.
12:07We airlifted ah, we airlifted ah, we airlifted the Secretary to Bugo City.
12:11Doon siya dumirecho instead of going to somewhere else.
12:14Okay.
12:15Ah, siya rin ang pinauna talaga ni, ni President ah, Marcos.
12:20Okay.
12:21To Bugo City.
12:22Now, now, since he's the first national official na nakarating doon, siya yung nakakita doon
12:27talaga on the first impact of the earthquake in Bugo or in other, in northern, in northern,
12:34in northern, northern Cebu.
12:36Ano po ba yung immediate assessment ni Secretary Guibo in terms of response natin?
12:43I think we learned that it was the responders of Lapu-Lapu who first arrived in Bugo. Was it true?
12:50Wala kasi ako doon, pero sila talaga yung nanon natin. Sila yung padeploy din po natin.
13:02And it's not the first among the first. Tama po yun.
13:06Kasi sila rin po ang ano eh. Noong nakita po nila doon, sila rin po ang nagtayo ng EOC on the ground, on-site and on the ground in Bugo City.
13:18Para magkaroon ng connection kagad with us sa EOC in Lapu-Lapu City. In our office.
13:26This one is in the context of lesson learned. Because one of the immediate realizations during that time was the lack of water in the northern part of Cebu.
13:42So based on your assessment director, Restain, what were the factors that caused the severe shortage of water?
13:53Bakit na wala ng water? Una-una, kuryente.
13:57Tapos pangalawa, which is also I think equally ano rin eh. Yung kasi marami pong infrastructure on water na nasira din eh.
14:08Busted pipes, may tanks na may mga tanks na concrete tanks na nagkaroon ng cracks and leakages.
14:15Yung electricity nga po na nagpapump ng tubig, na wala ng power. So, contributory lahat ng yan, talaga magkakaproblema po tubig.
14:28And considering that we know that the area is already prone to earthquake, what are the possible plans that we are putting in place
14:38but at least we already know that this is going to be a problem?
14:43No. The area is not known to be prone to earthquakes.
14:51Kaya nga po yung gumalaw na fault, it's considered a new fault.
14:56So, wala talaga, walang inkling that the area is earthquake prone.
15:05Yeah, pero this is on the moving forward. Now that we know, so to prevent similar water shortage ba in an event of incidents knock on wood in the future?
15:17Yeah, but that's going to be part of the, ano, going to be part of the, uh.
15:22Kasi ang, we have suggested that the, uh, all the, all the, uh, municipalities and cities natin naman, to, ano, to come up with a new land use plan.
15:35So, sa land use plant, lalabas po yan and also the sources of water.
15:42And alam naman natin that, siyempre, pagdating ng infrastructure, mga bastard pipes, pag masisira talaga yan, wala tayong magagawa.
15:51Usually, the pipes are on the ground, di ba?
15:56So, ang ano talaga natin is water filtration.
16:00Pwede umabot ng mobile water filtration better.
16:04Okay.
16:05So, during the, I learned that during the earthquake right after pag bukas na, nag-set up doon sa labas ng Capitolio.
16:16I think you were there before you guys went to Bugo.
16:20That week, ang concentration talaga is bringing water food, ready-to-eat food to Bugo.
16:30Ano ba yung naging problema? Why there were a lot of, not really complaints, but there were a lot of noise or feedback in terms of relief distribution and even relief coordination.
16:45Just like what happened on that weekend after the earthquake where there was a monstrous traffic going to Northern Town.
16:54Wow.
16:55Did we, did, did we not foresee that or?
17:00Well, we foresaw that. Actually, the administrator foresaw that.
17:04And, alam nyo naman, taga to, ah, marami kasing mga, syempre, they want to go to ground zero, di ba?
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17:46the governor's office, the Capitolio, at sila naman po magdidistribute eh.
17:50Eh, pero siyempre kasi may iba, you know, out of curiosity, they want to come here.
17:56So, the more that they want to come here, eh, di dumami po yan, doon nagkaroon ng congestion.
18:03Eh, siyempre, ganun eh. May ganun talaga.
18:08So, naging, naging...
18:10Actually, it was a foreseen, ano, it was a foreseen event.
18:16Nakikita talaga yun. Kaso nga lang, hindi talaga natin maiwaso kung napakalamit talaga taong hindi makikinig.
18:24So, it was kind of a good problem because there were so many people who answered for the call for help.
18:31But yung problem lang is, naging instant tourism site din yung bugo because everybody want to actually see ano yung nangyari.
18:39Correct.
18:40Yung nga po yung medyo bad side of that.
18:42Yes.
18:43Good side of it is that many people are aware.
18:46Yes.
18:47Hmm.
18:48Pero kasi, parang natin nasa, sinabihan na kasi sila, ano naman na sila eh, the people in the areas wherein medyo talagang matindi ang tama, okay naman, nabigyan naman po sila ng ano, nabigyan sila ng DSWD ng food packs, family food packs, that would last them at least three to five days.
19:11So, ang nangyari eh, yung iba, hindi ko lang kasi medyo meron ano pa kasi eh, may mga, may mga fake news pa kasi eh.
19:20So, yun ang medyo naging kalaban natin din doon is that misinformation and sadyang pagpaglilin lang po sa mga tao eh.
19:33Okay.
19:34Ano talaga, yun ang ano natin, isa sa mga ways forward natin is that how to come up with a more effective risk and disaster communication or crisis communication.
19:48Yeah.
19:49It's important yung communication, yeah.
19:50Apo.
19:51Apo.
19:52At sa ka right communication.
19:53Yes.
19:54And then, moving forward, pero ah, he's good.
19:59If there will be, you know, there will be another disaster, not looking forward to it actually, ah, ano, what is your advice to generous Cebuanos who are willing to help?
20:11Let's say for example, yeah, there's another, may, may disaster. Ano yung advice natin to the, to the, yung mga Cebuanos or other residents in the country are willing to help?
20:23Ano ba yung advice natin in terms of pagbibigay ng relief? Should, we have, we have to learn where to give them.
20:31Yes.
20:32At hindi po natin kailangan ibigyan direkso kagad. Hindi naman eh, kasi sa totoo lang, pag nabibigyan na, akala natin nabibigyan natin direkso yun.
20:41Ayun pala, nabibigyan natin na all the more doon lang sa isang, isang community lang.
20:46Yes.
20:47And in fact, doon sa isang community lang yun, ah, kasi napakadali. May mga iba pa nga po, nakikita natin, bumapara, bumapara, bumapara dyan sa gitna.
20:56Yes.
20:57So yun, yung mga tao, they will run after that, manyari after that track, tapos doon magbibigay, wala na, gulo-gulo na.
21:06Yes.
21:07Yes.
21:08We're, ba...
21:09So, so traffic na, medyo, ang ano nga is that, ah, we have to, ah, we have to teach the, yung the responsibility behind giving.
21:21Mm-mm.
21:22Mm-mm.
21:23Kasi, may iba pa ka, nung pa nagbibigay, may, may, may vlogger pa, or siguro may camera pa sa likod na nakasunod.
21:30Parang ganun sana, ah, oh.
21:32Yes.
21:33Medyo, niwasan sana natin yun, di ba?
21:36If you want to give, di ba, magbigay tayo, wala nakatingin.
21:40Camera.
21:41Di po ba?
21:42Yes.
21:43Yes.
21:44There were also observations, and maybe this is also a good way to correct the observation if it's fake.
21:52But how was the response on how hard to reach areas on the first 24 to 48 hours?
22:02Okay, I think that's where the potential misconception was, no?
22:07Na hindi umabot.
22:08Hindi umabot sa hard to reach areas.
22:10They may just be a few.
22:13That's one of the, ano, that's one of the fake news.
22:16Mm-mm.
22:17Na sinasabi natin.
22:18Kasi yun ka yung pinuntaan po ng ating mga search rescue, search rescue retrieval teams.
22:23Malami pa po tayong tao on the ground, eh, searching for them.
22:26Mm-mm.
22:27Tapos yun, syempre, ah, tsaka yan, yung first 24 hours, hindi naman tayo nauubusan ng pagkain kaagad dyan, eh.
22:33Mm-mm.
22:34The first 24 hours, usually pag tayo nag-impact ng pagkain, hindi naman tayo nag-impact ng pagkain na pang-anim na oras lamang, eh.
22:41Di ba?
22:42Sa bahay natin, di ba, oh.
22:44Meron, meron, so merong pagkain.
22:46Ang nangyayari lang po talaga dyan is that, ah, may nagsa fake news din kasi.
22:51The first 24 hours, DSWD was there.
22:54The government was already there.
22:56Mm-mm.
22:57Ah, meron na tayong, ano po doon, meron na tayong management teams who were already on the ground.
23:01At the first 24 hours.
23:03So.
23:04At, ah, bago pa mag-weekend, you know, sa Tuesday, you know, bago pa mag-weekend, ah, tens of thousands of family packs were already given by, by the DSWD.
23:15So, ito po ang, ano pa, isa, sorry, isa pang, isa pang measurement na pwede niyong tignan, pwede natin tignan, kung totoo ba na ginutong yung mga tao, was there looting?
23:29Mm-mm.
23:30There was none, eh.
23:31Okay.
23:32There was none.
23:33So, peace and order was obtained right away.
23:36Kasi, hindi nagutong ang mga tao.
23:39So, we are actually saying, sir, na, there were no areas that remained isolated or unreachable on the first 24 to 48 hours?
23:51Wala po, wala po.
23:52Okay.
23:53Wala.
23:54Ah, yes.
23:55So, walang, walang ganon.
23:56Ah, in fact, ah, bago to, ah, ah, may mga bridges na sila, pero they are not un-possible.
24:04Okay.
24:05So, actually, yung clarification ko lang sa question ko earlier is, ah, it's true, hindi tayo nagkulang ng relief or ng tulong ang assistance.
24:17Well, I think, ang, ang, ang, ang, ang, ang, ang, ang, my observations is kinda the system although we, we, we, we announced that ito yung mga drop off points but everybody just really want to go there and see for themselves.
24:30Yeah.
24:31What, was that the problem why we did have a problem on congestion on that weekend?
24:37Yes, po, oh, yeah, eh.
24:39May, nosew, pumasok na yung attitude, siguro, and behavioral, eh.
24:43I don't want to blame them, but what I want is that, sana, nakinig, sana, parang, hindi sana tipo bang nagano, yung, di na nalang pumunta, just for the sake of, you know, views and everything.
25:05Yun lang po, sana, it's a, sabi nga ni Chairman Gordon ng Red Cross, it's a change in men.
25:15Dapat talaga, dapat nanggaling sa kalooban na, alam nyo, na, bago tayo sana pumunta doon, sana inisip natin muna kung, di ba, paano ba tayo mas makakatulong?
25:29So, ngayon tuloy, nag-backfire. Kasi sinabihan na po natin sila, huwag na kayo pumunta, dali nyo na sa, sa Capitolio. Eh, pumunta pa rin sila, kasi may mga fake news, fake news.
25:42Ah, nag-backfire, inabot sila ang 14 hours, nasa loob ng, ano, nasa, na, nasa daan lang, oo.
25:50Sir, there were also civic organizations, no, that, who were also there, doing also massive work.
26:01So, are we also seeing value of this?
26:05What do you mean by massive work?
26:08Like, the civic organizations like Rotary, JCI, Lions.
26:13O, yan nga, yan, yan, yan, yan din. Ako, am a Rotarian. I was also a member of the JCI's.
26:21Yung na kasi sabi namin, pala gano'n, pwede naman idana sa, ano, sa government.
26:26And I, I think, no, Rotary, I think, game sa, dinaana sa government, hindi na sila umabot dito.
26:33Hindi na sila pumunta dito.
26:34So, we are also recommending, so we are also recommending that even for civic, big civic organizations,
26:41they have to course it through the government, no?
26:46That's right. Opo, tama po yun. Tama po yun. Mas maganda nga po.
26:50Ah, nag-ano nga po kami, nag-paano nga po kami ng mga drop-off points.
26:54At dalawa na nga po yung drop-off points.
26:57Meron na sa Danau City, maliban lang dun sa, ano, no, sa Capitolio.
27:03Naglagay na rin sa Danau City.
27:05Para kung sakali, may dyan na traffic na, bumalik na lang sila, ibaba na lang yan sa Danau City.
27:10Mm-mm. Okay.
27:12Para ka nun, oh.
27:13Okay, given this recent event, sir, ba, how prepared now is Bugo City and Northern Cebu
27:19for another earthquake, simba ko lang, or similar disasters?
27:25We can't say na they're, how, if they're ready already.
27:30Kasi nandiyan eh.
27:31Yes.
27:32Diba?
27:32So, kailangan bumangon muna.
27:36Kailangan muna din siya bumangon.
27:37Pero nung 5.8 kahapon, I called the mayor, okay naman sila, nakaready at handa naman sila.
27:47At yung mga tao naman kasi, sa ngayon kasi, kung sabihin natin na readiness or preparedness,
27:52mga tao ngayon nakatira sa atente.
27:54So, wala sa loob ng tahanan nila.
27:58Okay.
27:58But, as I was saying, they have to come up with a new land use plan as well as a contingency plan,
28:08especially for, you know, especially for earthquake.
28:12It's actually good to hear firsthand from you, Serba, na there were no isolated or hard-to-reach areas
28:21on the first 24 to 48 hours, and then wala talagang nagugutom.
28:27In the context, Serba, on kanang lesson learned about this,
28:34can we categorically say that there were really no gaps at all?
28:41Disaster it is.
28:43Meron talagang mga mistakes, may mga gaps.
28:46Meron talaga.
28:47Ang ngaano lang naman dyan is that paano natin punoan, paano tayo tumugon.
28:51Correct.
28:51And what were those?
28:53Sorry?
28:54And what were those so that in the context of moving forward, we can do better?
29:00Ah, pag-usapan na lang po natin yan privately.
29:03Ah, okay. Sige, sige, sige, sige.
29:05Ayoko naman kasi, ayoko naman kasi na palang in public pa.
29:07Okay.
29:08Pag-ano magpukpa, magpukpa, magpukpa.
29:10Ang mga sabi, so right now is that we're still fixing the problem, not the blame.
29:15Okay, sige, sige.
29:16Sige.
29:16Okay, sir.
29:18My last question, sir, before we let you go.
29:21What message would you like to convey to residents who may still be anxious about aftershocks or future earthquakes?
29:28Kasi even here, not just in northern Cebu, but even here in Cebu City, where we really still feel movements from time to time.
29:37Yeah, hapo. Ah, lalo na sa, ano, lalo na sa Cebu City.
29:41Ang Cebu City, high-rise eh.
29:43Yes.
29:43Dito ko na masyado eh. Yung high-rise na yun, kahit na konting ugalang sa baba, medyo amplified yan, pataas ng pataas.
29:51So, kaya medyo yung mga, may makakilala ako, nasa 17th floor daw sila, ramdam na ramdam.
29:56Ito lang ang mararamdaman, ang taas eh.
29:58Kung nasaan sila.
30:00Pero, ganun din, ah, makinig, marami rin po kasi tayo, check nila doon sa ating, ah, sa ating, ah, Facebook site ng, ah, Civil Defense, no, Civil Defense PH.
30:13Marami po tayo mga tips na, no, how to dock, coven hood, ah, during an earthquake, di ba?
30:19Tapos, before an earthquake, hindi natin alam kung kailan mag-earthquake, but we have to really prepare, prepare, prepare.
30:25Pagkating po ng mga ating, ah, simultaneous earthquake drills, makisali po tayo para at least alam natin kung anong gagawin natin.
30:34Just in case, ah, the earth will shake, ah, di ba, the earth beneath our shoes, our feet will shake.
30:41Or, mga box nga kasi kung natutulog tayo, especially while na, ah, ano, natutulog na tayo, no, sa gabi.
30:47Oh, oh.
30:48Kaya, yung mga ganun, ah, at least dapat alam natin kung anong gagawin natin.
30:52Yes.
30:52So, makisali tayo sa mga earthquake drills.
30:55Ah, iba kasi ang alam, kung meron tayong alam eh, alam natin ka how to go about it eh.
31:02It's just, it's just so sad.
31:04Some, ah, would learn how to do what they ought to do kasi they experienced it.
31:10Di ba?
31:11Eh, may mga iba kasi talaga na may mga, ah, ano pa na, ah, hindi magyari sa akin yan.
31:17Mm-hmm.
31:18Eh, ganun din ang sinabi ng lahat ng mga tiga dito sa, ano eh, karamihan dito sa Bugo, sa Salimiyo,
31:24Laanban tayo ng Medellin eh.
31:26Lahat yan eh.
31:27But now they're learning.
31:29And I hope, ah, we, ah, we learn from their learnings.
31:33Mm-hmm.
31:34From their experience.
31:35Mm-hmm.
31:35Yes, so that, ah, ano, mabago natin yung ating pananawna.
31:39Okay.
31:40It can really happen, ah po.
31:42Ito, sir, you mentioned earlier na possible we can also have night drills.
31:48Kasi tuloy-tuloy yung gabi nangyayari yung earthquake, so.
31:54That's what I've been asking for.
31:56Yes.
31:56Yan ang, actually, pinagpaplanuhan po din namin yan sa, pag ito, sa, sa office, pati sa central office,
32:06na sana magkaroon nga ng night drills.
32:08And there are also, and, patatandaan din natin, lalo sa Cebu City, ano,
32:13ang dami mga nagtatrabaho during night time.
32:15Correct.
32:16Yes.
32:17The BPO's.
32:18And, oh, the BPO, exactly, oh.
32:20And there are also, and whether this is a misconception or not, no, but this is a good time also for us to clear the air, no.
32:28There are also ongoing understandings, sir, about if the earthquake daw is less than intensity 3,
32:36there is no need to evacuate the building.
32:40Evacuate.
32:40Is that true?
32:41Not yet, ah po.
32:42Ah, okay.
32:42Dama po yan.
32:43Okay.
32:43Di po yan kailangan.
32:45Okay.
32:45Pagka mga, usually nga, pagka five lang, five lang, intensity, ah.
32:49Intensity, yeah, ah, ah.
32:51Hanggang four, pwede pang hindi, ah.
32:53Okay.
32:53Okay, that's also, but, ah po, yes.
32:57Okay, I think that's also good knowledge, no, especially for those who are working on high-rise buildings.
33:03Yes, ah po.
33:04Ang problema lang sa high-rise buildings, ang intensity 3, pag nasa taas ka,
33:08Yes.
33:09Ibang pag-arabdam nun.
33:11Yes, it's true.
33:12It's true.
33:12So, kaya pag-ano, medyo magkakaroon ka ng false, ano, na feeling na yung intensity 3 is actually para feeling mo,
33:22kala mo, intensity 5.
33:24Okay.
33:25Director Eris Tain, thank you very much for your time.
33:29I know you're doing assessments in Northern Cebu, but binigyan mo talaga kami ng oras to explain to us.
33:37Oh, yes, ma'am.
33:38Oh, eh, we're partners.
33:40Okay.
33:41Thank you very much.
33:42Thank you, Director.
33:44Maraming salamat.
33:45Mahapon.
33:46Mahapon.
33:46Mahapon.
33:48Okay, so that was Director Joel Eris Tain of the Office of Civil Defense.
33:54But it's a good observation that we do need also to conduct drills at night.
33:59At night, oo.
34:00Kasi challenge mo sa at night, madilim, where do you go?
34:03Ano ba yung first mo gawin when you say dock?
34:05Dock where?
34:07It's under...
34:09Under your bed?
34:09Under the table?
34:11If there are tables.
34:13This is at least from what I know on the trails.
34:15Yes, yes.
34:15Or under the bed.
34:16Yes.
34:16But actually, ito din.
34:18After these earthquakes na lumalabas,
34:22Ano nung nagtagalog?
34:23Eh, huma naman sa Director Eris Tain.
34:26After kanyang mga series of earthquakes,
34:27na yun ang gawa sa feeds.
34:28And there were experts who say,
34:30nasayop ko nun ang mood.
34:31Mung cover ka under the table.
34:33Because tendency, if something falls, you'll be crushed.
34:37Ah.
34:38So what they, ang explain is, go to a place where there's little triangles.
34:43Let's say, for example, you should not be under the table, but can be beside the table.
34:48Kasi pag, if these falls, mag-break, ganun man siya.
34:51Mag-triangle, no?
34:52So that, you'll be, yung space between, dun sa slab na nahulog, and the table, that's a safe place.
35:00And parang, kanang in a, yung curling position, but, I mean, you know.
35:06Actually, that's, that's a good point, no?
35:08Kaya, in, kanang, OSH, Organizational Safety and Health, that's the drop hold cover, actually.
35:17The drop hold hold is a standard practice, no?
35:20That's always recommended.
35:21Pero I think what I liked lang, when we guessed that, Director Bakol call, because he said, ang prerequisite din is, the building or the house is compliant.
35:31Compliant to the, to the building call.
35:33Office of the building official.
35:34Correct.
35:34Office of the building.
35:35Kasi, what's the point then, if naka-drop cover hold ka, and then the whole building collapse.
35:40Kaya wala, dili, compliant.
35:41Correct.
35:41I think that's a good prerequisite.
35:4319, four, four pa siya na bill, di ba?
35:45So, dili, nag-it siya, ni, ano nag-it siya.
35:47So, kanang, ganina, net, nitawag to si, atong suwayag tawag si, si, si, April Blanche, si, April Blanche, si, April Blanche, si, April Blanche Cabanyog, ato siyang tawagag balik, kung makatubag ba.
36:10Naka siya sa Bugo, Northern Cebu, karun, together with, Mandawi City Mayor, Jongki Uwano, at nagsubmit, naghatod siguro sila, oh, relief, relief, ah, kayo, ayuda, huwag ganoon ko anong cash, ato ko dito, ah, nilili.
36:28Atong waton, mga higala, si April Blanche Cabanyog, atong reporter, gikan sa Mandawi City, kay Tua, karun, si Mayor Jongki Uwano, together with our reporters in, koan, in Bugo, and nililihos ni si Lagdaan Pantayan.
36:43Anakono si Blanche, magka-report pa ba siya?
36:46Kay calling pa man siya.
36:48Anyway, ato sa itong istoryahan tong kang, kang director, eristain.
36:55Nga, this time, wala nagkuwang o relief assistance.
37:02Sobra, ang kuwang lang siguro dito, was the coordination.
37:07Diba? Kung ang akong sad, kung ilan na itong na-foresee nga sa weekend, naghan man nga ito, nga nung wala man na ito, i-arrange ang traffic daan.
37:16And, yeah, and then the other thing lang sad, which is, katong, when I clarified about civic organizations,
37:22because the communication, and maybe it was a misinformation or not, the communication actually that was released to the public
37:29are government units and civic organizations.
37:33In fact, that's why I cited the three.
37:36Okay, those were the civic organizations that were mentioned in the information.
37:40So, kind of, siguro, no, I think mo lang po na, we need to have a better, kung na-aim disaster, we need to have a better coordination,
37:47like, kanang right away ba, naday mo map na, okay, puha ni si Rotary, add to mo ditong barangaya,
37:53kaya tinuod mo na, na-concentrate ang help in Bugo, when San Rimejo, Tabugon, Tabuelan were also affected.
37:59And then, the other things, that's why I clarified, because at least for the Rotary mission that I joined,
38:05they were really directed towards the hard-to-reach areas also.
38:10Katong, gamay ratood sila, pero, na-aider ang road, dili pa sa ball,
38:16like katong Sadanao, there are just a few families, pero, dili man sila makaagi.
38:21So, the two locations that, at least the mission that I joined, was directed to the mountains of Tabugon.
38:29I just forgot which mountains, or the names of the barangay, no, and Rotary even brought a big truck, you know, of water.
38:35Nakasulod dito?
38:36Nakasulod, oo, pero, when we got there, at least if, I believe, no, the news of the communities,
38:43because they were smaller man, 170 houses raman sila.
38:47Hindi na siya lumayan, 170.
38:48Okay, sige. When we got there, the feedback that we had, actually, is, they were thirsty.
38:54Kay dalak, na-a.
38:56Kay more like, I think, what reached them were bottled waters.
38:59Bila naman ang bottled waters, lives sa bottled waters.
39:02But, mao lang sa li siya, kanang learning bitaw aning, kaning disasters,
39:07mamamugin din makahinumdum ta sa atong safe bag.
39:10Correct, oh.
39:11It's time to, na-na si Blanche?
39:16Hmm.
39:16Na-anay, na-ay, kanang unsan na, na-ay, what you call this?
39:23Na-ay, time to replenish, or, basig, ni-expire na itong sold sa atong, kanang safe, go bag.
39:30Kanang, I think it's time na, basig, kinangla na ito, mag-recharge sa ato ang, unsan man na.
39:36Okay, na-ay, na-ay, na-ay report si, kinsan ni?
39:42Ah, sige, tanawan ko noon na ito, gi-play na, ni ano, gi-play na.
39:46Sige, na-ay, kaning mga go bags, panahon na ginna.
39:48What should be inside the go bag?
39:49What should be inside the go bag?
39:51Ito pala, yun lamang ng Pasig City Emergency go bag.
39:54Magagamit mo ito sa oras ng lindol, bagyo, at kahit.
39:56Atosan ni, oh, pwede na ito, ma-play ito siya.
39:59Kanang, kung ang Pasig ng Hatag, kinsa kayo ang mayor sa Pasig?
40:04Vico.
40:04Si Vico, pwede sa admitagaan din, Mayor Vic.
40:08Kanang, di ba?
40:09Or ang Cebu City Government, ganun, di man mga hatag-ani.
40:13Kanang, I think, ma-ayosin.
40:14No, actually, kami sa kong family, my sister already bought go bags for each one of us, no?
40:21Taking into account the lessons also that we saw, no?
40:24Yes, kagabi, it was my brother's birthday.
40:26Happy birthday, Rex, Donald.
40:29Nag-mention, gidna mo ang the go bag.
40:33Correct.
40:33Especially for my mom, nga.
40:34Kanang, hilay na ang mobility, ba?
40:36Na, need you got to have that.
40:38Ang imo medicines is hood, nagsiplak, bitaw daan, para if something happens, bira, sold sa bag.
40:46Flashlights is very critical.
40:47Whistle.
40:48If there's a disaster, first to go is the light.
40:51Then later on, water.
40:52So, kanang mga five, what's that na?
40:55Five liters na kuan, nindot na siya nga na-akastan-by.
40:58Yun niya.
40:59Nagito yung mga biskuit-biskuit.
41:00Pero mo, lagi ko itong, itong go bag last year, basig, they expire na na.
41:04So, time to change and, you know, fashion it up.
41:07And kong ginsha ka nang, it's a habit because I remember na uso masad tong, it wasn't called go bag.
41:13Pero katong after Odette ba?
41:15But I think because of years without disaster, gikaon na ang mga naasa go bag.
41:20Gikaon na lang ka nang, and then wala na.
41:22Wala na.
41:23Wala na.
41:24Wala na.
41:24So, it's a habit.
41:26Mas mayigit kita kayang Philippines na kita sa Sintro.
41:33Ginabisita kita every year of disasters.
41:35Linog, sunog, tanan, all this.
41:39Kung po kung sunog, lisuta, ugda, sa sunog.
41:41The context also ka ganina, sige, well, waiting for the video that I asked about the assessment of the homes
41:47because it's also to prevent, basig nag-asahay lang ba, the homeowners are thinking na ay mo bisita sa ilang balay to help them with the assessment.
41:59And then at the same time ni asa po ng government na the homeowners are doing it and it's already sufficient.
42:03But the protocol, that's why I asked ka ganina.
42:07The protocol, ang LGU ba, mo ingon, mo declare nga, kani, sa base, sa structure, di na kadi.
42:14Nakapwadi mo build din na anang yuta kay na igu ka na, naka sa fault line or naka sa sinkhole.
42:21Kani siya ba?
42:21Or kani nga mga cracks, in the same way that buildings are assessed by engineers.
42:27Kani nga mga cracks means dilik ka-compliant.
42:29Oh, in Ana ba?
42:30And then you need to do something to correct it.
42:32That's actually where the context, kaya basi na niya nag-asahay lang ang each side.
42:36Oh, yes.
42:37Kaya ba, buta, DJ Lizuzo, kaya nag-acide ako, nakong property din na niya, dilik ni mo mapuslan.
42:42Correct.
42:43Diba niya, usually ka ng mga balay, lifetime, biya na nato nanggibildi.
42:46Biyan na ingon niya, ah, magtukot kong bay, magmahumanda yung dilik, biya na in Ana.
42:50Correct.
42:50And that's where I also ask about schools also.
42:54Kaya na naman yung mga aftershocks.
42:56So, murabag, is this going to be a perpetual na langid na magsigig suspend sa class?
43:02Or maybe there's a certain threshold, no?
43:05And I'm not saying that there should or there shouldn't be, but at least conversations like that should happen.
43:10Yeah, ang kanisya ba, I mean, kanita muna ta ni na to sa UDET.
43:14Katong sa UDET na atla ng tungawa na yung break na to, diba?
43:18But karun, dili, this is the second week wala ta nag-class or nag-face to face.
43:22How ready ang atong government facility na mag-clase na ta online?
43:27Kanasad.
43:28Kanisya ba kay, dili.
43:30Is this something that we expect more?
43:32Or dili lang siya kanang reactive, no?
43:34Kaya karun mag-agmura lang siya nag-shake and then suspend.
43:37I think this should be something, atong yung i-perfect.
43:40Para dili tayong mag-disaster o wa, naan na siya nga platform ba?
43:45Agree o.
43:45Nga dili yung mag-disrupt ang pagtuon, pag-squela sa mga bata.
43:50O, katungad mo ito nga.
43:51That was also where the context of the question was.
43:54Kaya, we don't, I would agree, no?
43:56We don't expect, we don't want earthquake to happen.
44:00Yes.
44:00But it can.
44:01Manggid na tumalik ka yan.
44:02O, so muna, nga murag, nakakita na manggintaan eh.
44:05Then what can we do differently?
44:07Yes.
44:08I think we need to, kita kita sa media, we need to push with our government to learn from this mga disasters.
44:16Muraban o ka nang, kinanglang yun ba nga, di lang ta' enough, muingon nga.
44:21Okay, kinanglang, so asa naman inyong plano?
44:24Katubit ang gisulti ni Mr. Bryan to?
44:26So, what is the strategy?
44:28What is our disaster, post-disaster strategy?
44:32Punya, mo itong nangutanap ko about water because I also notice, every time there is a disaster,
44:37whether water or earthquake, whether typhoon or earthquake, it's always water.
44:44So, murabag, what can we do differently this time?
44:46Okay, I think, kinahanglan po ka nang mga filters.
44:51Correct.
44:51Okay, bahalag, rainwater na or what, but because you have that filter ka nang,
44:56Rainwater catchment.
44:58Di ba na yung mga filter nga baligya ron, nga kanang, i-ano lang ni mo, then you can drink the water already.
45:03Hinaan na siya, so, na siya pitan, awo.
45:05So, ka nang mga hinaan na ba?
45:07Murabag, is there anything that we need to do differently such as that, no?
45:11Para dilip, perming kulang sa tubig.
45:14Yes.
45:15Ang, I think, important, nanamunan yung video, pwede na ito ni Maplay, Eric?
45:21A photo.
45:23A photo.
45:23So, mounin siya ang gobag.
45:25This is the emergency gobag na g-distribute sa Pasig City.
45:30So, may yung taog si Mayor Nestor Archival makapangutana ni Mayor Vico Soto o Pilani.
45:39Di ba?
45:39Pero, I don't know.
45:41I think this is a good investment for the residents of Cebu City.
45:46And, kung magiging siya mo, it looks like it's a formal bag.
45:49So, hopefully, it will also create the habit of replenishment ba?
45:53Kaya makita man gina'to, di man siya ka nang, like Samua, ka nang eco bag.
45:58Ang ako, kani nga Pasig, kani ba?
46:01O, kiragigong ni Cebu City, walay daw sa akin saang mayor.
46:04Yes, agree, agree, agree, agree.
46:05Bawal epal.
46:07Oo.
46:07Okay.
46:08So, this one, mga higala, mounin ang katong eco bag, the go bag,
46:12nag-ipang distribute ni Mayor Vico Soto in Pasig City.
46:15I hope makakadawatsad ang Cebu City residents.
46:18Kaya, taghan man sa mga bagyo-bagyo lang, kanisip ako lang,
46:23moabot sa Cebu City.
46:25And for those who can, what's that, honey?
46:27For those who can manage, afford, no, is a strong word,
46:31then prepare your own, na po.
46:33Kaya especially nga we're moving towards more typhoon season, na ba?
46:38Di saad ka nang, kanang,
46:40di li na ni siya luxury.
46:41It's a necessity for each one of us.
46:44Kaya, mas may, malagi na, kung naanamang guntaan ni,
46:47ang government maka-address right away sa problem of those who really need.
46:53Katong yung nanginahang lang yun.
46:55Correct, oo.
46:56Kay katosad, katong sa mga bukid, sad, nag-i-adduan, pudna mo,
47:00murag, kanon yun nila ang dilata.
47:03Di li.
47:03Di ba, bagit sa, I would not anticipate nga they will store it.
47:06No, I don't think sakto to giingon ni Director Istain nga.
47:09In the next 24 hours na pag-i-pagkaon, Director,
47:14for all you know, in some of our communities,
47:19a meal, three meals a day is,
47:22Correct.
47:23Di nila kaya.
47:24For those who are really,
47:26They just think for lunch,
47:27and then think for dinner.
47:28Una-una, for dinner.
47:29Ah, okay, salbar na tas lunch,
47:31o saan si itong panahapon.
47:33There are communities nga in ana.
47:36Walay opportunity to stock.
47:38Correct.
47:39Mauna ni yun kung,
47:40murag ka to ang putagaan o ganang go-bags.
47:42But, and also to create the habit nga di nila kanon
47:45because, murag ka to hunger and go-bag,
47:48murag ka to hunger wins.
47:49Hunger wins.
47:51Especially, ugwanag yun, piyong natani.
47:53Oh, yeah.
47:54The other thing po din ay that I noticed
47:55when we went to the mission also
47:56is naay mga tents sila because they're afraid.
47:59Nudili siya tent, trapal.
48:00Kaya, they're afraid.
48:02Pero, they're actually sleeping.
48:03On the sea, on the ground.
48:04On the ground.
48:05Kanibitong naay mga tinamnan kay,
48:07that's flatman.
48:08So, napay mga bambu-bambu.
48:09Kasuhay miya, kasuhay biya gikwadiya sa ground.
48:12Kanang, pag Buhol earthquake,
48:14we went to Buhol, in Luon.
48:17Nidito git min siya katong siya.
48:18Sa church, just beside the church.
48:21Kada after shock, mamangun mi.
48:23Shooks, basig na yung mga adada,
48:25additional nga mga bato, mga hulog.
48:27But, what are you guys choice?
48:29You know, kanang,
48:30it's better matug ka sa Utah
48:32kaysa the next thing yun,
48:33natambunan na ka.
48:34So, mga gina siya ang,
48:35kanang disasters nga.
48:38Di, gin na to kapugan.
48:39It's mother nature.
48:41So, muragdili naman siguro na to makontak si Blancho,
48:44manamilit na lang may mga higala,
48:46hinaut nga,
48:47may nakatunan mo
48:48sa among edisyon ka ron.
48:50And tomorrow,
48:51or within the week,
48:52we'll try to get in touch with
48:54Mines and Juygensens Bureau,
48:57MGB,
48:57to explain to us more
48:59on the sinkholes.
49:01And,
49:01unsa man nang,
49:03can people still live in the area?
49:05If di na sila kapuyo,
49:07will the LGU provide relocation for them?
49:10So, kan ni siya nga mga aspects ba?
49:11Kaya safety man ni siya.
49:13Correct.
49:13Di ba?
49:14So, with that,
49:15that wraps up this edition
49:17of Beyond the Headlines.
49:18We hope today's conversation
49:20help shed light
49:21on the bigger picture
49:22behind the story.
49:24And we'd also like to thank our guest,
49:25Regional Director,
49:27Joel Erestain,
49:28for helping us connect the dots
49:29in ways that matter.
49:32I'm Mildred Galarpe.
49:33And I'm DJ Moises.
49:35Thank you,
49:36and good afternoon.
49:36Good afternoon.
49:55We'll see you next time.
50:25We'll see you next time.
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