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00:00Hello to you. Hello over there. Very good. Good evening everyone. You are so welcome to the show.
00:07I tell you, we have got some big stars for you tonight. I'm actually a bit nervous.
00:12I'm sweating like Alan Carr on Celebrity Traitors. And that's sweating.
00:17But hey, look who's singing for us later. It's the fabulous Robbie Williams.
00:22Yeah, he has been performing his new single, Pretty Face. And plenty of pretty faces on my sofa tonight.
00:31First up, this music icon has sold over 100 million records since her hit song, Conga, made her a global star.
00:38And she's kept the world on their feet ever since. Now celebrating 50 years of music with her new album, Rises, it's the queen of Latin pop, Gloria Esteban.
00:48There she is. Oh, so lovely to see you. Hello.
00:57Good to see you.
00:58Gloria Esteban, everybody. Hey, hey. There you go.
01:03Hello.
01:04This double Oscar nominee mastered crime solving in Sherlock, a code breaking in The Invitation Game, and the madness of the multiverse in Doctor Strange.
01:13Now, he brings us a moving portrayal of grief in The Thing with Feathers. It's Benedict Cumberbatch!
01:21Yay!
01:23Oh, hi. Nice to see you.
01:25Well, welcome, welcome, welcome.
01:30This Irish man was Oscar nominated for his heartbreaking role in The Banshee's of Inish Aaron,
01:34and earlier this year won a Golden Globe for his starting performance in The Penguin.
01:39Now, in Ballad of a Small Player, he plays a gambling addict in the bright lights of Macau.
01:45It's Colin Farrell!
01:48Yeah!
01:50I'm not lying.
01:51Colin Farrell.
01:52Hello.
01:53Hello.
01:53Hello.
01:53Hello.
01:54Hi.
01:55There you go.
01:56Come on, man.
01:56And she's lit up the big screen in countless hits like Pretty Woman, My Best Friend's Wedding, Notting Hill, Ocean's Eleven,
02:07and her Oscar winning performance as Erin Brockovich.
02:09Now, she's wowing critics with her latest role in controversial campus drama, After the Hunt.
02:14It is a warm welcome back to Julia Roberts!
02:17It's a warm welcome back to everyone.
02:37Julia, second time on the show.
02:38Second time.
02:39Second time.
02:39Who do you know on the couch this time?
02:41Anybody?
02:41Um, I know Colin, and I know Benedict, and I know you, and I am in awe of Miss Estefan.
02:50I'm in awe of all of them!
02:51Yeah!
02:52APPLAUSE
02:53And actually, you worked with Benedict.
02:56We did, yeah.
02:57Yes, August Osage County.
02:59Yes, you did.
03:00And were you in Wimbledon together as well?
03:02Well...
03:02Julia was sat next to me.
03:04OK.
03:05Which I thought, oh, great, I'm between my husband and Benedict, this is going to be great.
03:10But we were in a very special seating.
03:13In the royal box, you could say.
03:15We were in the royal box.
03:15Amazing.
03:16Which I was very excited about until I realized, well, until Benedict pointed out to me that,
03:25um, I gasp every time the ball is struck.
03:31It was like a scene out of Pretty Woman.
03:33It was amazing.
03:33She was like, whoo!
03:34It's impossible to be quiet.
03:38It's so exciting.
03:40And a scenario, like, it's so exciting.
03:42It's so exciting.
03:42But Benedict had his tie and he was like, and he said, Julia.
03:46And it's like, they hit the ball, and go,
03:48Ah!
03:48They hit the ball, and go, Ah!
03:50He's like, Julia, really?
03:51It's going to happen all day.
03:52It's going to happen a lot today.
03:54LAUGHTER
03:55If they're lucky.
03:57One big scream and get it out of your system.
03:59LAUGHTER
04:00And Gloria Estefan, back, back, back again.
04:03So happy to be here.
04:04APPLAUSE
04:05It's always so much fun.
04:06We've got a new album, The Racist, which we'll talk about later in the show.
04:11But this is unbelievable.
04:12You have been in show business for 50 years.
04:15Yes!
04:16I joined the band in 1975.
04:20It was a Miami Latin Boys.
04:21And then when I stuck around, we changed the name to Miami Sound Machine.
04:24It's a... I can't believe it.
04:26I'm shocked.
04:26But you know what I can't believe is, I can't believe it is 40 years since we all first heard this.
04:32MUSIC PLAYS
04:34Do that Konga.
04:35Wow.
04:3640 years.
04:37Wow.
04:38Konga is officially middle-aged.
04:41LAUGHTER
04:42LAUGHTER
04:43LAUGHTER
04:45It's so good.
04:46And I'm glad you knew that, Colin, because Latin beats are important to you.
04:50Yeah.
04:51LAUGHTER
04:52No, because Miami Vice...
04:53There's a few I'm supposed to, yes.
04:55Yeah, Miami Vice.
04:56A bit of salsa in Miami Vice.
04:58We're not talking chips.
04:59Yeah, we saw you doing a bit of moving in Miami Vice.
05:02Oh, no.
05:03Here you are now.
05:04Oh, Gloria.
05:05All right.
05:06I want to see the hips.
05:07They never cut to your feet.
05:09LAUGHTER
05:12Wow.
05:13But no, you're really doing it.
05:15You're really doing it.
05:16I cannot remember that scene.
05:18LAUGHTER
05:20I think it was...
05:21I woke up 48 hours later in rehab.
05:23LAUGHTER
05:24Fact.
05:26LAUGHTER
05:29You took Miami Vice too seriously.
05:32LAUGHTER
05:33Yeah, the mojitos were good.
05:34LAUGHTER
05:3548 hours later.
05:36Yes, yes.
05:37I mean, they were consequential.
05:39Yes, cut to.
05:40But, er...
05:41That must have been very strange when you went to the premiere of Miami Vice
05:44and you must have been big suede of it you didn't recall.
05:46Two-thirds of the film, man.
05:47Wow.
05:48I was like, don't tell me what's going to happen next.
05:50LAUGHTER
05:51LAUGHTER
05:52Yeah.
05:53But, like, Julia Tennis.
05:54I was the only actor who did it.
05:55Yeah, exactly.
05:56No spoiler alerts.
05:57I...
05:58Hey, listen.
05:59Tonight we've got three very different movies to talk about.
06:02The first is a fabulous and timely drama starring Julia Roberts.
06:06It's called After The Hunt.
06:07It opens on the 17th of October.
06:09That's next Friday.
06:10And it is the latest from Luca Guadagnino.
06:13Guadagnino.
06:14Guadagnino.
06:15I've been practising all week and still fucked it up.
06:17LAUGHTER
06:19Guadagnino.
06:20He made Call Me By Your Name and Challengers, lots of other films.
06:23And I was telling you backstage, I love this film.
06:25It's such a big moral mess.
06:28So, tell us what you can about it, who you are and what is going on around you.
06:32I play a philosophy professor at Yale.
06:37And my colleague and sort of best friend is another philosophy professor played by Andrew Garfield.
06:46And my prize student is played magnificently by Iowa Debrey.
06:54And near the beginning of the movie, there she is, I throw a party that this picture is from.
07:01My husband and I, Michael Stuhlbarg, plays my husband, a Freudian analysis guy.
07:07And we have this party and the next day she comes to tell me that they walked home together and something inappropriate happened.
07:16So it's who's telling the truth.
07:19There's lots of fallout from that.
07:21Yeah.
07:22Among other things.
07:23And we were saying it's one of those things where you think it's just going to be about the sexual politics of that.
07:28But it's about all sorts, it's about young, old, gay, straight, men, women, it's all in there.
07:33Pills, whiskey, lots of things.
07:34There was a lot of whiskey.
07:36Yeah.
07:37I wish I drank whiskey watching that film.
07:38Yeah.
07:39It's lovely.
07:40You still can.
07:41I feel I've left it too late.
07:43Hey, I tell you what, we've got a clip.
07:45And this is you confronting student Maggie, played by Iowa Debrey.
07:49Here we go.
07:51When you have been at screenings of this movie, I mean, it must be afterwards.
07:55Like, everyone must have an opinion.
07:57There's lots to talk about after this.
07:59Yeah.
08:00That's the best bit, is people seem to have really robust conversations for days after this.
08:07And that's the best part, because I feel like, to me, that's my favourite part of going to the movies,
08:13besides the candy, is the talking after.
08:16And the cast, you mentioned all the cast there.
08:19Had you worked with any of them before?
08:21None of them.
08:22And our other cast mate, there's many of us, Chloe.
08:25Chloe, Chloe 70.
08:27Yes.
08:28And none of us had worked together before.
08:30And there was some kind of alchemy that happened, where we really, we have fallen into a life together now.
08:40I don't think, I mean, we finished this movie over a year ago, and I don't think a week has gone by that I haven't spoken to or texted one or more of them.
08:49Wow.
08:50Lovely.
08:51Yeah.
08:52Everyone who does interviews about this film all reference your banana bread.
08:55Oh, yeah.
08:56Like, do you cook anything else?
08:58No, I know.
08:59It seems like that's all I cook, and it makes me sound like such a not cool person.
09:05No, it doesn't really.
09:06No, it's horrible.
09:07Super cool.
09:08And I do, I can make anything.
09:10I can make so many more things than banana, just ask me anything.
09:14I can make it.
09:15Make one thing and do it super well.
09:18Banana bread.
09:19Yeah.
09:20I can, and I'm not just a baker.
09:23Okay.
09:24I feel like I've touched a nerve.
09:26You know, there comes a time in life.
09:29Walnut bread as well.
09:31Not walnut bread.
09:33Don't be silly.
09:36No, not a nerve.
09:37I love making banana bread.
09:38I wish I had made enough for everybody here tonight.
09:41But, and I'm, yeah.
09:43Well, I've let them all down now.
09:44Yeah, really?
09:47Because, Colin, when you were working with Margot Robbie in your last film, A Big Bold Beautiful Journey.
09:52Yeah.
09:53You fed her, was it every day you fed her?
09:55I didn't feed her.
09:56I mean, I would have if she wanted, but I gave the sandwich too.
10:00I gave the sandwich to her and she fed herself a crisp sandwich.
10:04You made her a crisp sandwich every day?
10:05Yeah.
10:06Oh, wow.
10:07That's a lovely thing to do.
10:08Thank you, the wooer.
10:09Yeah.
10:10Could she not make it herself?
10:12I, I just got into, I, I, I, I adopt habits very quickly.
10:18Just your gesture.
10:19And so, by day two, I, she, we were talking in rehearsal about the script and somehow it led to our childhoods,
10:25which led to food that we enjoyed when we were little and that evoke a sense of that bygone time.
10:31And I talked about potato crisps.
10:34Of course.
10:35And a sandwich with Kerrygold butter.
10:37Yeah.
10:38And yeah, and I brought her one in and she just was licking her lips and loved it.
10:41And so that was it.
10:42The second day, by the second day, the habit had kicked in and it was every day there was a,
10:47Margot Robbie.
10:49It was a joy to bring her in.
10:51Do you squish it down like I used to as a kid?
10:53You know you do.
10:54Yeah, you know you do.
10:55Don't let me hang it still in there.
10:56Yes, yes.
10:57Yeah, you get your fingerprints in there.
10:58Yeah.
10:59Yeah.
11:00The FBI could profile you from a well-made potato sandwich.
11:02Yeah.
11:03But is this something you do on sets?
11:06Do you make things for people?
11:07Yeah.
11:08To eat?
11:09Yeah.
11:10Um, no.
11:11OK.
11:12Have people made you things?
11:13Uh, no.
11:14Did you get any of Julia's banana bread?
11:15Any fucking banana bread?
11:16No.
11:17But do I...
11:19I bring things in.
11:20Yeah, definitely.
11:21I bring cakes in.
11:22But I don't make money.
11:23Making it.
11:24I'm not going to...
11:25I guess I'm very generous.
11:26I give people give it all the time.
11:28I do think.
11:29I bring tequila.
11:30Oh, nice!
11:31Yeah, it's a party.
11:32Absolutely.
11:33Really, really good.
11:34It's a party.
11:35Tequila.
11:36But for after, not during.
11:37Do you collect?
11:38Do you collect tequila?
11:39Friday night.
11:40I don't collect them.
11:41I collect them in my throat.
11:44There's great ones.
11:45They are.
11:46But it's celebratory, you know, at the end of the thing.
11:48Yeah.
11:49But early on, I would get so nervous that the band would do a pre-show shot.
11:54It could only be one.
11:55And you could only do that in your 20s.
11:57Because after that, you realise it dries you out.
12:00You can't continue a huge tour with it.
12:02But yeah, at least it, you know, chilled you out.
12:04No more.
12:05No.
12:06Nice.
12:07Happy memories.
12:08Happy memories.
12:09Talking of memories.
12:10Now, the last time you were here, Julia, we talked a lot about some of your old movies.
12:14And I know nothing makes you happier than talking about those.
12:17But Mystic Pizza, Mystic Pizza, you know, you'd have been successful, whatever.
12:23But this was kind of the film where everyone kind of paid attention and noticed you.
12:26Absolutely.
12:27Yes.
12:28Well, life, I feel, you may know this already.
12:31I don't know.
12:32I just feel a dread right now.
12:34Life might have been different because the part was originally offered to.
12:41Do you know this?
12:42No.
12:43Gloria Espin.
12:44Ta-da!
12:45No.
12:46Yes.
12:47Yes.
12:49That's a lot in that same hair.
12:51Honestly, I would have sucked.
12:53It was terrible.
12:55I wasn't ready.
12:56You know, the career...
12:57I wasn't ready.
12:58No.
12:59You were fantastic in it.
13:00But my music career was starting.
13:02They offered me this role.
13:03I go, do I have to audition?
13:04They go, no, no, no.
13:05You've got the role if you wanted.
13:06And I go, I'm not ready for this.
13:08It's a craft.
13:09You made that call, though, yourself?
13:10Oh, absolutely.
13:11That's such a wise...
13:12No, I did because I could have messed up my music career if you fail at that.
13:16And I knew I wanted to act one day, but I wanted to have time to prepare and, you know, study.
13:21It's a craft, as you all well know.
13:23And I know that that would have been a big mistake, so...
13:26Wow, thank you.
13:27Well, thank you.
13:28Have you never heard that before?
13:29I've never heard that.
13:30I see some banana bread in...
13:32I expect...
13:33I expect the least banana bread.
13:36But am I right?
13:37After the first audition of something, you heard that they were looking for a Latin actress?
13:42Or did you hear...
13:43Was that...?
13:44No, not a Latin actress, but after, like, my third reading, my hair was blonde.
13:52And I'd never colored my hair before.
13:56And she said, you know, they're really...
13:58The director's really thinking of someone with dark hair.
14:00You know, these people are supposed to be Portuguese and...
14:03And so, I don't know if you could do something with your hair.
14:07So I...
14:08That's probably why they offered me the role.
14:09My curly hair.
14:10Well...
14:11That was it.
14:12I had the curls.
14:13I just didn't have the dark.
14:14And so I got some, um...
14:16They used to have this colored mousse.
14:18I don't know if they still do.
14:19But I got black colored mousse.
14:21And I put in my already very curly, unruly hair.
14:27I walked in there.
14:28It was, like...
14:29Massive.
14:31And crispy.
14:33I think we've got some pictures.
14:36That's you in the movie.
14:37That looks beautiful.
14:38Yeah, that's...
14:39Man, what's weird is, here's a picture of you, Gloria, from around the same time.
14:42Oh!
14:43Oh, wow!
14:44Sisters!
14:45That's the hair that I did for both of us.
14:47Absolutely.
14:49And listen, you can see Julia in her new film, After the Hunt, in cinemas from next Friday.
14:55We move on now to Colin Farrell's new film, Ballad of a Small Player.
14:59It's in UK cinemas October 17th and Netflix from October the 29th.
15:04It's a beautiful and really kind of an unexpected film.
15:07So we'll start with a clip.
15:08And this is you kind of introducing your character.
15:13And...
15:16And I walked into this film not knowing anything about it.
15:19And so from the beginning, I just thought, oh, it's a crime caper.
15:22Good, you know, we're in for crime.
15:23And that is not what we're in for at all.
15:25No.
15:27What are we in for?
15:28We're in for a jolly good tale about addiction and desperation
15:31and looking in all the wrong places for a sense of who you are
15:35and the meaning that we all kind of try to scratch at and locate in our lives,
15:41you know, he's looking in all the wrong places.
15:42Yeah, we meet the character, Lord Doyle, no backstory.
15:47He's just at the precipice about to kind of hit rock bottom.
15:50And it's that thing of characters who don't know when enough is enough.
15:54Like, it's about that kind of idea of just always wanting more.
15:57Yeah, absolutely.
15:58And your life, his life, becomes just all smoke and mirrors.
16:02There's an enormous amount of pretense, artifice, bless you.
16:06And he is, yeah, he's pretty, to be honest with you, he's pretty sick.
16:11He's pretty in the grip of addiction and he doesn't,
16:15has no self-respecting addict does, he doesn't know when to stop.
16:18Whether it's gambling or whether it's booze, they're his proclivities.
16:22And watching it, I thought it was set...
16:25This is a clue to that.
16:26I thought it was set in a kind of, like, dystopian future.
16:29But that's Macau now.
16:31Yeah, yeah.
16:32That's what Macau looks like.
16:34Yeah, it's a really fascinating place.
16:36I mean, I don't know that I ever would have found my way to Macau
16:39if it wasn't for this film.
16:40It's off the coast of Hong Kong.
16:42I think a little bit south-west of Hong Kong, I think.
16:44And it used to be two islands, Macau.
16:46There was the old town Macau and then an island called Kolowan,
16:49which is still an old fishing village.
16:51Really lovely, really rustic.
16:53And then they dredged the sea floor in 2006
16:56and they joined both those islands, so now it's one island.
16:58And the middle part that they dredged and they built
17:00is in the space of, like, an afternoon.
17:03The Chinese don't mess around.
17:05They built this whole gambling strip,
17:07so it's known as the Las Vegas of the East.
17:09But you have that amazing fact
17:11about how it's much more serious than Vegas.
17:13Yeah, I mean, they're big players.
17:16I think the money spent in Macau
17:20in the space of something ridiculous like a month
17:23is Vegas' revenue for the year.
17:25Oh!
17:26Yeah, it's mad.
17:27You know the way you get to see behind the scenes
17:29when you're doing things?
17:30What?
17:31The gasping.
17:32Oh, yeah.
17:33It did, yeah.
17:35That was a good gasp, though.
17:37That was a good gasp.
17:39Graham's role for the store.
17:41It's easier to gasp on your store.
17:44We went backstage and saw this room where the High Rollers play one day
17:49and the casino floor manager was showing me
17:51and there was two Baccarat tables and he said,
17:53we had a good night last night, the house.
17:55And I said, what happened?
17:56And he said, we had two gentlemen in from the mainland.
17:58They flew in on private jets.
17:59They didn't know each other.
18:00One sat at that Baccarat table and one sat at that Baccarat table
18:03and we did well.
18:04And I said, do you mind me asking what a good night for the house is?
18:06And he went, yeah, they both played for four hours
18:09and we were up 24 million.
18:11Oh!
18:12Wow.
18:17I want to thank you for teaching me Baccarat.
18:19I've always wondered when I went by the tables how you played that.
18:22It's really interesting.
18:23And you don't play it is what you're teaching us.
18:25Yeah.
18:26Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:27Because, Gloria, you've played Vegas.
18:28Did you not do any of the gambling things?
18:30Did you just perform?
18:31I like a little bit of blackjack.
18:33I'll do that for a little bit.
18:35But I like the penny machine.
18:36OK.
18:37I sit there for hours with the drum machine all alone
18:41with the little thing, yeah.
18:42And what's it like performing in Vegas?
18:43Are the audiences...
18:44When I perform in Vegas, I am stuck in my room with 27 humidifiers.
18:49I cannot leave.
18:51Because of the dryness, we're not meant to sing in a desert.
18:53Yeah, yeah.
18:54It's really rough.
18:55But, yeah, it's brutal on performers.
18:57How long were you there?
18:58I was there for a 10-day stint in Celine's theatre before she opened
19:03because I was rehearsing for my tour.
19:06And I was...
19:07Everybody having fun, having a great old time,
19:09and I was up there, like, breathing in humidity.
19:12Because, Julia, you obviously made Ocean's Eleven in Vegas.
19:15Yes.
19:16Which must be...
19:17I mean, the three of you and the rest of you in real casinos,
19:21was it just a nightmare to make that film?
19:23No, it was pretty fun.
19:25Do they shut things down completely?
19:27No.
19:28No.
19:29Just little areas.
19:30Just little sections.
19:31But weren't just crowds gathering to watch the filming?
19:35Yes and no.
19:37Because, you know, people come to gamble, that's what they want to do.
19:39Yeah.
19:40So, in a way, they're not really paying attention to what's...
19:44It's like, oh, a movie seems insignificant to trying to win $24 million.
19:49Or losing.
19:50Or losing.
19:51Or losing.
19:52And are you confirmed for...
19:54I think George Gooney just confirmed that there's Ocean's 14.
19:57Yeah, I guess he did.
19:59I mean, I just said that too.
20:01Oh, OK.
20:02I just...
20:03Yeah.
20:04I mean, I've talked to...
20:05We've all talked about it, but I didn't realise he was going to be confirmed.
20:08LAUGHTER
20:11Put the cell phone down, George.
20:13I'm texting.
20:14I mean, I'm just hearing about the artificial environment.
20:16That's the thing that scares me the most about it.
20:18Not just the addiction and the kind of pursuit of, oh, this time I'll win,
20:21as you keep losing more and more, but also just the fact that you are
20:24hermetically sealed in an oxygen-pumped chamber in a desert,
20:29just burning money.
20:31It just...
20:32The whole thing seems like a nightmare, a fever dream,
20:34which is what the film was like.
20:35Yeah, no, it really is.
20:36But don't you always think, in fact, for fun, for a fun...
20:40No-one looks like they're having fun.
20:42Everyone's just shuffling around because they've lost all the money
20:45they've bought in an hour and now they're here for another two days.
20:48I do.
20:49LAUGHTER
20:50Vegas is great to go with your...
20:52You know, it was one thing when I was 22 or three,
20:54but to go now with my kids, which I have done for the last few years,
20:57and you go and see a Cirque du Soleil show,
20:59you get a steak dinner and then you let your six-year-old walk around,
21:03you know, Las Vegas Boulevard at one o'clock in the morning
21:06and he just thinks the world is his.
21:08Wait, you didn't say your six-year-old?
21:10Yeah, but I didn't go with him.
21:11I let him have space, I let him go...
21:13LAUGHTER
21:15LAUGHTER
21:16I was...
21:17OK.
21:18Yeah.
21:19No, I mean...
21:20LAUGHTER
21:21I was holding his hand.
21:22He was tagged.
21:23It was all right.
21:24Yeah, it was...
21:25It taught him to count.
21:26LAUGHTER
21:27There was no G-strings on stilts or anything, you know?
21:30Yeah.
21:31It was all very family-oriented.
21:32Good, clean family fun.
21:33Good, clean family fun.
21:34Well, listen, just a reminder that Ballad of a Small Player is coming to cinemas and on Netflix.
21:39Meanwhile, Benedict Cumberbatch brings us an extraordinary piece of work.
21:43It's called The Thing with Feathers.
21:45It's in UK and Ireland cinemas from the 21st of November.
21:50So this is Max Porter's famous book about grief.
21:54But that's kind of...
21:55It's about more than that and yet that is what it's about.
21:57That is very much what it's about.
21:58I mean, it's a portrait of a family, a father who loses his wife very suddenly and two boys in the year that they spend in the aftermath of that chaos and what grief does and how it manifests.
22:11And in this imagining, it manifests itself as a crow.
22:18And it's based on Max Porter's award-winning novel where this man is a Ted Hughes scholar, so it's about a group of his poems called The Crow.
22:26And in this one, he's an illustrator, so it's about the manifestation of this illustrator's imagination becoming real and manifest between the three of them.
22:35And The Crow is more than kind of an image. The Crow is a character.
22:39It was a real man called Eric who is on stilts with an animatronic head and a sort of cloaky thing with a weird arm shape that's half humanoid and a lot crow and claw.
22:52But this amazing, very heavy head and beak.
22:55And it's David Thewlis's voice in the film, the final film.
23:00Well, in the clip, we see you playing Dad and it's one of your encounters with Crow, but here we just hear the voice, as you say, David Thewlis's voice.
23:08APPLAUSE
23:13Thank you. And it's quite fair.
23:15You know, not surprisingly, it is a very moving film. It's a very moving film.
23:20And the little boys, we didn't see them there, who play your sons, they're so little.
23:25Yeah. And I just, how can you cast, you know, because they might have been very good on the afternoon when you met them, but you're with them for a long time.
23:34Like, how do you know they're going to be any good?
23:36Well, Dylan Southern, who's the director and also the writer, he's the visionary behind this film adaptation of the book.
23:41And he, in the audition process, they were the only ones he really, really wanted.
23:46And when I went in to do a test with them, I came out and go, and I just, I was, I'm scared. I'm actually scared.
23:54It was so dangerous. They're not actors. They're untrained. They're two seven-year-old brothers. They're twins.
24:00The purity of their vulnerability was the scary thing?
24:02No, just the fact that they are... Children. Mental and out of control. Yeah, no.
24:08You know, they were fighting each other. They were throwing insults at me. They were tearing round the room.
24:13Oh, wow. But, yeah, but they are extraordinary. They really are.
24:17And Richard, who's the slightly older one, by seconds to Henry, is sort of preternaturally old soul.
24:25He looks older, even though they are seconds apart in birth.
24:28And there were two moments that I remember very chiefly, how we kind of got through it and can't quite believe we did it.
24:34One moment when I'm telling them and their mothers died and Richard just found it unbelievably funny from...
24:39LAUGHTER
24:41He just came towards me and...
24:43LAUGHTER
24:45Everyone's a critic.
24:47And then, you know, eventually he got into it and I said, I think, you know, because you're upset,
24:52you might want to just sort of allow me to just cut...
24:55I think we should have a huddle here. I think this is kind of a cuddle moment.
24:57He went, no.
24:59LAUGHTER
25:00I don't like cuddles. I don't like cuddles.
25:02Well, can we just...just this once, just this once.
25:04He did it.
25:05And during the take, he whispered in the ear like this, he was like,
25:09You owe me big time.
25:11LAUGHTER
25:13APPLAUSE
25:15Oh, my God.
25:18I adore them. I mean, what a thing to go through and, yeah, they were amazing. They are amazing.
25:23Because, Julia, have you worked with children that...
25:25Untrained kind of little kids that...
25:28I mean, in Erin Brockovich, I had three children.
25:31Yeah. And one of them was, like, a baby? Or was that multiple babies?
25:34One was a baby. There were two babies. There were twin babies.
25:37Yeah, there's the baby.
25:39Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:40And they were all great. And the two babies were wonderful until one of the babies
25:46I had in my arms for a scene where there's...
25:50I'm filling up a pot with water and there's a cockroach or something appears
25:54and I dropped the pot, the loud pot, and it scared the baby
25:58and the baby started crying, which was fine and great and appropriate.
26:01Good acting on the baby's part.
26:03Yeah.
26:04Good choice.
26:05And, but then she became the crying baby.
26:08Because any time she came to me, she was like,
26:11Scary pot lady.
26:13She's still crying somewhere in the world.
26:15And so she truly was the crying baby from that time.
26:20Wow.
26:21I think for maybe the rest of the show, I still feel bad.
26:24Talking of crying, I have to say, you know, actors often talk about how
26:27taking, doing difficult roles, you take it home with you and it's hard to shake off.
26:32But because of the amount of crying in this film...
26:35Yeah.
26:36Just in terms of headaches and that kind of terrible tight head you get from crying,
26:39you must have had all of that.
26:40Drunk a lot of water, yeah.
26:42Yeah.
26:43Do you do a lot of crying?
26:44Yeah, quite a bit in this, yeah.
26:45And it's, you know, when there are three different setups and you're doing it eight times in each.
26:49And, you know, those kind of extremes you hopefully only ever have once or twice at most hopefully in your life.
26:55I wish it on nobody.
26:56But, you know, we all go through it and it's a very important part of why I was proud to make a small independent film about this subject.
27:02We don't talk about it much.
27:03We don't deal with it very well in life and especially as men to be able to talk about it and deal with it.
27:07Yeah.
27:08Which is what Max's work is about what the film honours.
27:10And so I'm not going to sit here and bemoan the fact that I had to cry a few times because the real thing is much worse.
27:15But, yeah, you go through it a lot.
27:17Yeah.
27:18And also, is it easier, actors to discuss, is it easier to cry if you're going to a very dark place like grief and losing someone?
27:27Or is it easy to cry in like a rom-com, like say at the end of Notting Hill, squeezing out a tear with you, Grant?
27:34Did I?
27:35Yeah, you did.
27:36When?
27:37Why?
27:38During I'm Just a Girl.
27:39Oh, yeah.
27:40You did it.
27:41I did.
27:42No, you're absolutely right.
27:45That's it.
27:46Oh, that.
27:48Only one of the most famous moments in the history of romantic comedy.
27:53Is it very hard to produce tears at a moment like that, where it's happy and light?
27:59No, I mean, I think when anything is authentic, obviously what Benedict is talking about is so deep and profound and dark and bleak.
28:07But if you, if I attach myself to it in a sweet, truthful way, I mean, that was just, I mean, it was a beautiful scene and beautiful words to say.
28:22And, and obviously touching to me.
28:25Yeah.
28:26And that's how I portrayed it.
28:27But that's a very different place that you're in.
28:30Yeah.
28:31You know, tears have actual stress molecules in them.
28:33Is that right?
28:34Yes, they do.
28:35And coming out is you are releasing stress and, and pain.
28:39So that's why they say cry it out because it really works.
28:42I think you're lovely.
28:43The idea about this film and that we don't talk about grief enough.
28:46It's a huge thing.
28:47And that we don't talk about death.
28:49Like, I know that sounds, of course, obviously more, but the word.
28:52Chat show, Colin.
28:53Chat show.
28:54Chat show.
28:55Chat show.
28:56We don't talk about death.
28:57Chat show.
28:58Chat show.
28:59Springtime.
29:00For it.
29:01Yeah.
29:02I have a question for Benedict.
29:04Oh, thank you.
29:05Julia, please.
29:06When you're making this movie and then you go home to your beautiful wife and your boys,
29:11like, how do you sustain?
29:14I mean, are you, do you just want to be joyful and, and happy with them?
29:18Or do you feel like you have to kind of maintain a bit of quietness?
29:22No.
29:23Or you just put it all away?
29:24I let go.
29:25It's enough to leave it on the dance floor and then go back and do whatever.
29:27Yeah.
29:28It's a car journey in and a car journey back and that's it.
29:30Yeah.
29:31Those are the transitional moments.
29:32The older I get, the easier that is, especially with a family that I...
29:36I remember you crying in August, Osage County and it's when you come off the bus to Chris
29:41Cooper and it is such a beautiful scene.
29:45You've missed my dad's funeral and it is such a beautiful, sweet, touching...
29:51Little Charles.
29:52It's such a great scene.
29:54You're very good, Benedict.
29:55Oh, well, Julia Roberts, so are you.
30:02I don't even remember, I think it's so sweet.
30:05Well, now, no crying, only celebration.
30:08Because Gloria Estefan, she has made a new album.
30:12Yes, she has.
30:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
30:15It's called Raices.
30:19Beautifully done.
30:20Is it right?
30:21Yes.
30:22Luca Guadagnino.
30:23Yes.
30:24OK.
30:25Raices?
30:26Yeah, I think I've got it here.
30:27Yes.
30:28And unless people have been lying to me, Raices means roots.
30:31Roots, absolutely.
30:32OK.
30:33And this is your 30th album.
30:34Oh!
30:3530th album.
30:36Wow!
30:38I didn't count them, but somebody came.
30:41But here's the thing, Gloria, it's your first album in Spanish for nearly two decades.
30:46Yes.
30:47So why, I suppose, why wait and why now?
30:49Well, it's kind of full circle, but it all converged in this year somehow.
30:53We didn't plan it that way.
30:55But I wanted, I thought particularly now it was important to sing in Spanish.
31:00It's a very autobiographical record of Emilio's and my love story.
31:05He wrote his own love song for himself that I was to sing.
31:09And it's talking about who we are, our culture, that we need to really keep alive who we are
31:16from wherever we come.
31:18And I happen to come from Cuba, I have Spanish roots, and I wanted to recreate that picture
31:23of my mum and me and that picture on the table that's where we lived when we first left Cuba
31:29when I was two years old.
31:31So I recreated it because my mum's in me, theirs, my grandmother, and my great-grandmother
31:35are in the picture, in the picture.
31:37Wow.
31:38Oh, yes.
31:39Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:40Down the air.
31:41So it's a lot of fun, too.
31:42It's a lot of salsa.
31:43I love singing that.
31:44Chilei invited me to do Bemba Colora, which was a Celia Cruz record.
31:48And I remembered how much I love this genre.
31:51So when Emilio brought this song to me, which is a gorgeous song, talking about the things
31:55that really matter, family, love, nature.
31:59I told them I want to do a tropical album with a lot of really, you know, dance beats
32:04and salsa and fun stuff.
32:06And that's what we've done on top of, you know, a couple of real romantic things.
32:09Can't get away from that.
32:10Well, as you say, roots refers to not just culture, but also family.
32:14And that's all reflected in this clip from the video of the title track, Raises.
32:22I directed and edited the videos for the thing.
32:27And the other video we see now about the nosy neighbor, I shot in the place where I lived
32:31with my mom.
32:32With your mom?
32:33Wow.
32:34Yes.
32:35Yeah.
32:36No, we really enjoyed doing this.
32:37And music, I sing since I talk.
32:38So it just came with me.
32:40And I feel so blessed and privileged.
32:42Thank you, everybody that has ever listened, bought any of my music.
32:46You make my life so wonderful.
32:49I appreciate you.
32:50I love you.
32:51And I feel so, so blessed and privileged to make music.
32:55It's a magical thing.
32:56And in the past, we've talked about your special honor.
32:59You had, is it the Miami, uh...
33:02The Sound Machine Boulevard is where we used to live.
33:05My sister lives there now.
33:06Yeah, there it is.
33:07Oh, there you are.
33:08You know, people would steal that sign.
33:10I'd be in Hawaii and somebody's holding up the street sign.
33:13And it got expensive, so now they made it smaller.
33:16But now, apparently...
33:18I have my own way.
33:20Gloria Estefan Way will be...
33:22Oh, it's not open yet.
33:23No, it's inaugurated on Monday.
33:25This Monday the 13th, my lucky number.
33:27And it's right alongside the hotel that Emilio and I have owned
33:31for almost three decades on Ocean Drive.
33:33The Cardozo Historic Hole in the Head was filmed there.
33:36Frank Sinatra.
33:37Something about Mary, that famous scene with the...
33:42With the cell.
33:43Yeah.
33:44Was filmed there in our bar.
33:45And, yeah, there's a lot of history.
33:47Oh, Birdcage, also shot in that hotel.
33:50Wow.
33:51Yeah.
33:52And now it's Gloria Estefan Way.
33:53Yes, it's a little way, like me.
33:56But, uh, yeah, I'm thrilled, you know?
34:00Well, get yourself down, Gloria Estefan Way.
34:02And, uh, love to have you back and congratulations on the new album.
34:05Raises is out now.
34:08Well, I think we're all in the mood for some more music now,
34:11so it's time for tonight's performance.
34:13This British pop icon has had the most UK number one albums
34:16of any solo artist.
34:18Here performing his new single, Pretty Face, it is Robbie Williams!
34:23Thank you so much.
34:24Thank you very much.
34:25Thank you very much.
34:26Thank you very much.
34:27Hello, Gloria!
34:28Hello, Gloria!
34:29There it is!
34:30Pauline Jr.
34:31That is Robbie Williams!
34:32There you go!
34:33Oh!
34:34Robbie Williams, who do you know on the couch?
34:36Uh, no, everybody from watching them on the tally.
34:37OK, that's good.
34:38And Julia Roberts.
34:39Oh, my God.
34:40I can't...
34:41I've watched Pretty Woman six times in a row.
34:42What?
34:43And at the end of the sixth time, I was like, one day I will take a prostitute shopping.
34:48Oh!
34:49Oh!
34:50And I did...
34:51I did so badly.
34:53That's a...
34:54Wow!
34:55That's a lovely story, Robbie.
34:56That's really lovely.
34:57Um...
34:58So, that song, that is off the new album Britpop, which is out in February.
35:18February 2026.
35:20And...
35:22So, the idea of Britpop, you're referencing your appearance at Glastonbury here.
35:28Yes.
35:29In 1995, I was in a boy band.
35:32You auditioned for a boy band, didn't you?
35:33Tell us about it, yeah.
35:34Yeah.
35:35Didn't go well.
35:36You know, it didn't, did it?
35:37There was two dead mics and they wouldn't let me have one of them.
35:40Maybe it did go well.
35:42I was in Take That and we were a lily white pop band, a boy band.
35:47Mm.
35:48And, uh, at the time there was sort of, you know, uh, uncool, naffness,
35:52that kind of thing.
35:53And then Glastonbury was the height of militant indiness.
35:58And, uh, people like me shouldn't go there.
36:01It doesn't...
36:02This thing doesn't exist anymore.
36:03But in 1995, and also, there was a lot of rules in the boy band.
36:06I wasn't allowed to do anything, really.
36:08And then, uh...
36:09Stuck by that, didn't you, Robbie?
36:10I did.
36:11Yeah.
36:12For both of us.
36:13Yeah, yeah.
36:14So anyway, and then one day, because we weren't allowed to go
36:17to clubs or things like that, and we weren't allowed to go
36:20to festivals, and then one day I was just not having it.
36:24When I realised that they couldn't fire me anymore,
36:27when we were, like, too popular to be fired, I was like,
36:30I can do anything I like now, and I'm going to.
36:33So I turned up at Glastonbury in 1995 and a lot of people were like,
36:38what are you doing here?
36:39And I was like, well, I'm having it, aren't I?
36:41That's what I'm doing here.
36:42But then inside, there's the album.
36:44There's this blue plaque that...
36:46So did you make this blue plaque?
36:48What's it say?
36:49This is the one...
36:50And then I'll decide if I did it or not.
36:51This is the one that was put up...
36:52Oh, yes, I did.
36:53Was this up in Glastonbury this year?
36:55Yes, it was.
36:56So I think we've got a picture.
36:57So this is the blue plaque, it's up in Glastonbury,
36:59and it's basically, Robin Williams entered this area
37:01without accreditation, authorisation, or alignment with prevailing taste.
37:05His presence was uninvited, unofficial, and ultimately inevitable.
37:09Yes, I wrote that.
37:11Yeah.
37:12Were you at Glastonbury this year?
37:17No, but everybody thought I was.
37:19So for like, when that went up for 24 hours, my phone was blowing up.
37:22We know you're here, we know you're doing the secret performance,
37:25we've seen you in the healing field, what time are you on?
37:27And I was in Belgium.
37:29So it was fun to take over Glastonbury and not actually be there.
37:33And I'd like to announce on the TV tonight
37:36that I'm playing Glastonbury next year.
37:38APPLAUSE
37:40That's the result on next year, isn't it?
37:45No, I'm still going to play it, though.
37:47OK.
37:48Yeah, so...
37:49Like it or not.
37:50Like it or not.
37:51Because they haven't asked me since 1998,
37:54so I'm going to go do it anyway.
37:56OK.
37:57So I'm going to turn up in a truck and then put the side down
38:00and then do half an hour to some cat.
38:02Nice, like a carny.
38:03Yeah, yeah.
38:04Yeah!
38:05Are you going to tell anyone you're there?
38:06No.
38:07OK.
38:08No, but I am doing it.
38:09Oh, there's people between us.
38:11Yeah, yeah.
38:12Just very quickly, European stadium tour was your summer
38:15and everything, huge.
38:17But now next year, you're going out with this album
38:19to proper small venues where, like, there'll be a frenzy
38:23for these tickets.
38:25Like playing Barrowlands, Liverpool Olympia, Brixton Academy.
38:28I mean, these are small venues for you.
38:29When was the last time you played venues like that?
38:32Um, in 1997, I think, was the last time that I had to do that.
38:39What's the thinking?
38:40Thankfully I'm choosing to.
38:42This is not where my career is at, everybody.
38:44LAUGHTER
38:45What is the thinking?
38:46Well, actually, so it's maybe 30 years now since I put out the
38:52first album, Live Through a Lent.
38:53So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to play my first album
38:56from beginning to end and then make them listen to my new album
39:00too, which I will also play from beginning to end.
39:03I'm just suckering them in, really.
39:05LAUGHTER
39:06I'll give you this, but then I'll hit you over the head
39:08with this new stuff that I'll make you listen to.
39:10And very good it will be.
39:12Listen, you always put on a fantastic performance.
39:14Thank you so much for that.
39:16Robbie Williams, everybody!
39:17APPLAUSE
39:18That is nearly it, but here we go.
39:23It's just a time for a visit to the big red chair.
39:27You've been in the chair now, and we're over.
39:28Yes, I have.
39:29It's not as far back as you think it's been.
39:31No, no.
39:32Hello.
39:33Hi, how's it going?
39:34Good.
39:35And what's your name?
39:36I'm Ben.
39:37Ben.
39:38And where are you from, Ben?
39:39I'm from Limerick in Ireland.
39:40Lovely.
39:41Loving Limerick.
39:42And what do you do in Limerick, Ben?
39:44Well, I'm living here full-time now.
39:45Oh, right.
39:46Working in construction.
39:47Oh, right.
39:48When did you come over?
39:49This time last year.
39:50How's it going?
39:51Very well.
39:52OK, Ben.
39:53Going very well.
39:54Off you go with the story, Ben.
39:56Right.
39:57So it was around Covid time when all the regulations started easing up and you could start going drinking
40:03in hotels again.
40:04So me and my friend had a great idea.
40:06We'd book into a hotel in Limerick where we both lived and we'd stay there so we could go
40:10on the beer for the night.
40:12Basically, the hotel we were in, our friend was working there as well.
40:16And he was very, very heavy handed with the portions he was giving us.
40:20So the last thing I remember is walking out of the front door of the hotel.
40:25And the next thing I remember is an absolute banshee scream.
40:29And I woke up, looked around me.
40:31I was in a tiny box and I look out the little hall.
40:34I see my mother looking in at me.
40:36I was asleep in my dog's kennel out the back garden.
40:38LAUGHTER
40:39LAUGHTER
40:40We love Ben.
40:41You can walk, Ben.
40:42You can walk.
40:43Well done, Ben.
40:44APPLAUSE
40:45All right, that really is all we've got tonight.
40:48If you'd like to have a go in bed, share yourself and tell your story,
40:51you can contact us via our website at this very address.
40:53Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests.
40:56Robbie Williams!
40:57APPLAUSE
40:58Gloria Esteban!
40:59APPLAUSE
41:00Benedict Cumberbatch!
41:01APPLAUSE
41:02Colin Farrell!
41:03APPLAUSE
41:04And Julia Roberts!
41:05APPLAUSE
41:06Do join me next week with Florence and Machine, Tessa Thompson,
41:09Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence, Jeremy Allen White,
41:11and the boss himself, Bruce Springsteen.
41:13I'll see you then.
41:14Good afternoon.
41:15Bye-bye!
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