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00:00Boxer and Gerson work injury attorney's text line said this about Brandon Pajemski.
00:06And we'll read it to you again.
00:07It's a statement where he basically, I'm just going to paraphrase.
00:11Pods was like, when Steph and Draymond retire, I want to do everything now to build the trust from them and the organization that they see it as something that they will hand down to me.
00:25Now, does that make him a narcissist?
00:28Does that make him think he's a lot better than he is?
00:32That's great if that's your opinion.
00:33You're probably right.
00:34I don't see Brandon Pajemski as a future one in the NBA the same way I don't see Jonathan Kaminga as a successful future one in the NBA.
00:43But guess what?
00:44I'm just a dude.
00:45I could be wrong.
00:46I got two eyes and a microphone.
00:48I could be wrong.
00:49I could be wrong about any of them.
00:50But I tell you what, I'm sure not offended by the fact that that's their goal and their view of self unless the view of self is becoming detrimental to the team.
01:04That's the only thing I care about.
01:07And I don't see either one of them at this moment as having done that.
01:13No.
01:14Yeah.
01:14I'm with you.
01:15And just the way he said it where he talked about I want to be and I want them to see me as that.
01:21And I want to put in the work to where if we get to that spot, I would have done the work to where, yeah, now maybe I can be the guy who can take the keys to the kingdom and go ahead and be that person.
01:33And, you know, I'm currently teaching somebody to drive.
01:36And how's it going?
01:37It's going great, actually.
01:38Lesson five of ten was wonderful and he's making steps.
01:42But I love that you have a number of lessons that it has to be.
01:45Ten lessons?
01:46It doesn't have to be, but what I did was I created a curriculum for this young driver, and he's 22, so we can accelerate it a little bit more because he is older and more responsible.
01:56But what I've done is I've created a curriculum based on his skills and the things he needs to learn.
02:02Oh, so you're like a coach trying to put the player in the best position to succeed.
02:06Right.
02:06I like that.
02:07In other words, like on lesson two, we didn't just jump under the freeway.
02:11Do you, what is your level of calm when he's about to do something bad?
02:18This week it was about.
02:20How do you yell?
02:22Yeah.
02:23I yell when yelling needs to happen.
02:26Okay, good.
02:26Now, I don't go full Jonathan Gannon and like put hands on him because that's not going to help.
02:31No, you don't want him to crash.
02:32No, but last lesson, not this past couple of days ago, but last week or the week before, we had a couple of times where I had to say, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
02:42Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:43There was some, because, I mean, he needed to stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
02:46Fly into a red light or, you know, there's a human in front of you.
02:50Sure.
02:51Something.
02:51Yesterday was much more mellow.
02:53He did much better.
02:54But to the greater point of that, you have to give people, like, their chance to grow.
03:00And if you're pods, he's not saying, I'm the man.
03:03I'm going to be the man.
03:04And y'all better watch because I'm him.
03:07He's not saying that.
03:08So here's the text from 707 that caught my eye.
03:11We were talking about Mac Jones and Brock Purdy also.
03:15And I said, do y'all think that Mac, like, I know how he looks in front of a microphone.
03:21I mean, I'm just here to be the backup.
03:23And this is Brock's job.
03:25And I'm a super nice guy.
03:26And I play through injury.
03:27He showed up in a black suit with a red collar and no socks with his loafers.
03:35Yeah.
03:35Yeah.
03:36That man thinks he's a badass.
03:38That man thinks he's a badass and good for him.
03:44Right.
03:44Because he has to play football on the number one rated television show in America with humongous trained killers trying to get him.
03:54You better think you're a badass.
03:56Brandon Pajemski has to share a court with Shea Gilgis Alexander.
04:01Like, you better think you're a badass, man.
04:05So anyway, here's the text.
04:06Yes, Mac Jones probably thinks he's a good QB, Willard.
04:09But the difference between him and Pods, Mac Jones is humble and knows his role on the team.
04:15Please give me the evidence.
04:17Anybody.
04:17I would like one shred of evidence that Brandon Pajemski is confused about his current role on the Golden State Warriors.
04:27I'll wait.
04:28And those are not good comps.
04:29Give me one thing.
04:30Like, Brandon Pajemski, no matter what, if healthy, is going to actually play basketball.
04:37If Brock Purdy's healthy, Mac Jones might get the Sam Darnold, Josh Dobbs, Brandon Allen treatment, which is, you don't get to play.
04:45You go ahead and hold up the helmet to your ear while I'm out here doing my thing.
04:48No matter what, Pods is going to either start or play 25 or 30 minutes a game.
04:54So he has to have more of a swagger than the backup quarterback.
04:58Yeah, although I would say it's not a given.
05:01Like, I get where you're coming from, but if Pods plays horribly, they will replace him.
05:06This is professional sports.
05:09Like, maybe Seth Curry will be the starting two by the high.
05:12Like, I don't know.
05:13Right.
05:14Anybody can be replaced if you have an extended period of poor play.
05:18At the beginning of last year, Steve was getting very frustrated with Brandon because of some decision-making, and Brandon was pressing.
05:25And he's still mad at Brandon for talking to the refs too much.
05:28And all of these things.
05:29Like, everybody needs to be coached.
05:31Everybody needs to get better.
05:35I just don't, like, again, sometimes I wonder, what is it we're getting mad at?
05:41You know, we talked about LeBron yesterday, and people get so pissed at LeBron.
05:46And I'm like, what you have on him so far is that he did a press conference that annoys you that raised a million dollars for the Boys and Girls Club years ago.
05:57We got athletes out here who are getting in actual trouble.
06:02Like, real trouble.
06:04Y'all have no problem drafting Tyreek Hill in round two of your fantasy draft.
06:08But LeBron's a problem?
06:10Why are we getting upset with people who think, supposedly, that they're better than they are?
06:17Kaminga, Pods, whatever.
06:18I have no issue with it unless, again, unless you're being defiant.
06:23Unless you are, you're causing problems in the locker room.
06:27When you go on the field or court, you're doing something that is the opposite of what your team needs you to do or your coach asks you to do or whatever.
06:35Like, if you're bucking against the team, now we got an issue.
06:40I don't see that with any of these people.
06:42Do you?
06:43No, I don't, and I honestly want my athletes to have that healthy sense of self.
06:49Now, if you get to a point where you are A.J. Brown with the Eagles and you're feeling like you're not getting the ball as much as you should, even though your team is undefeated.
06:58So you're undefeated and you're all up in your feelings because you're not getting the ball enough, yet you're undefeated.
07:03That, to me, becomes a little bit more of a head-scratcher, like, dude, we're undefeated.
07:07It's a team sport, and our team is yet to lose, and yet you're mad because we're not throwing you the ball.
07:13Okay, and he's an amazing player, but he was in his feelings about whatever he was feeling about not getting the ball.
07:19And all I hear from Brandon Pajemski is, I want to be in a spot down the road where they look at me and say, yeah, you're that guy.
07:28And I don't, honestly, if the Warriors look at him and say, you know what, we're going to give you a max contract because you're that dude, either he got way, way, way, way, way, way better, or they're fools.
07:40Because Pajemski, I don't think, in my opinion, he'll never be the kind of player to get five years and $280 million.
07:48Agreed.
07:48But the fact that he wants to, like, take the baton and carry it forward, I'm not threatened by that.
07:54I love that.
07:55Yeah, do you know what's funny?
07:56I mean, like, how many of y'all have ever bought a lottery ticket?
08:00I know you have.
08:01Constantly.
08:01I have.
08:02Yep.
08:02We've convinced ourselves that somehow that's possible.
08:06Brandon Pajemski being the best player in the league is way more likely than you or me hitting the mega.
08:13No doubt.
08:13Way more likely.
08:14Right.
08:15But we've convinced ourselves, no, no, no, it might happen to me, and I'm actually going to put some money behind that,
08:22and then I'm going to walk, like, I'm going to do a special trip.
08:25I don't need gas in the car, but I'm going to the gas station at night because mega hit a billion,
08:31and we're going to go do that.
08:32This is no different.
08:34This is the way the human brain works.
08:37Who the hell doesn't think they're better than the rest of the world thinks?
08:42That's probably all of us.
08:45I hope you feel that way, like a healthy ego.
08:48Steph has talked about a healthy ego.
08:50This is very, very important.
08:52I hope that for every human being out there, every single one of you, because the ones who don't have that,
08:58you're the ones who, like, we've got to watch out for.
09:02You're the people we've got to check in on because you're starting to go down the route of self-loathing.
09:07I hope for each and every one of you that you see positives, you see growth, you see evolution in spots where the rest of the world looks at you and goes,
09:18eh, eh.
09:21Do you know what I mean?
09:22Or just not yet.
09:23I mean, I think I'm a pretty good dad.
09:25If you looked at my three kids, you might be able to poke some holes in my theory.
09:29You might.
09:31Yep.
09:32I bet you you could.
09:33But, like, that's not how I see myself because I've got a healthy ego about it.
09:41And is it myopic at times?
09:43Is it egotistical at times?
09:45Maybe.
09:46Maybe.
09:46I mean, we all ride that fence, but, like, to be bothered by the positivity or the optimism that somebody else has about themselves,
09:56what an odd thing to, I don't know, to spend time on or get mad about.
10:01Yeah, especially the way he expressed it.
10:03And that, to me, is where it becomes a non-story because he's not saying, like, I'm that guy.
10:09Once they're gone, you know, I can't wait for Steph to leave so I can show the world that I'm Steph 2.0.
10:15I'm him.
10:16It was none of that.
10:17And I think about our beloved guys behind the glass, Evan and Grandy and Lubman and Lucas and Chicka Ring and Ken and Zach
10:27and all the rest of these guys who are all super, super talented.
10:31Do you think for a minute they don't sit back there at times and think, I could be as good as him?
10:36I'm actually probably better than him.
10:38Sometimes they'll straight tell you.
10:39Right.
10:40Yeah.
10:40Right.
10:40And luckily he's got his mouth full of apples, so he won't say a word about it now.
10:44He's actually not one of them.
10:46No, but there's no doubt.
10:47And that's where I was, and that's where you were, and you and I both had the same career
10:52path where we were the number two on a one-man show, and we were fighting for crumbs, and
10:58we were doing what we did, and there were times when I was doing my thing with Gary Radnich,
11:03and I'm thinking, okay, I mean, he's not listening, so I can say it.
11:07This dude's washed.
11:08Like, I should be in there with him.
11:09I should be him, and I didn't have the platform to do it, and I wasn't quite where Pods was,
11:15and so you bide your time, and you wait, and you get your opportunity, and then you show
11:18the world.
11:19So I don't look at Pods, somebody who's not yet Steph, and he probably never will be
11:25Steph.
11:25Let's be fair about it, but...
11:26Nobody's Steph.
11:27I mean, yeah.
11:28Like, nobody's ever going to be Steph.
11:30Will Pods ever be an NBA All-Star?
11:32I bet against it.
11:33Exactly.
11:34Big time.
11:35If you asked him, what would he say?
11:36No doubt.
11:37Exactly.
11:38So is that something that we look at from him and say, oh, dude, you're an idiot.
11:44No.
11:44I look at that and say, that's what I want in a player.
11:47Brother, thank you.
11:48This is why we love sports.
11:52Do you know how idiotic it was for Steph Curry to see this?
11:58Colleges wouldn't even give him a scholarship.
12:01But what did Steph think about himself?
12:03This is the beauty of what we're all watching and talking about.
12:09Sports, man.
12:09Exactly.
12:10Brock Purdy, same thing.
12:11Hello?
12:12Yep.
12:13Like, they saw it from the beginning.
12:16Nobody, none of those athletes achieve this and get here and go, oh, my God, I actually
12:22thought I sucked.
12:23I can't believe I've got this in me.
12:26I know Brock looks aw shucks, but talk to anyone who actually works with him.
12:31They're like, the dude's a dog.
12:32The dude has that streak in him.
12:36Same thing with Steph.
12:37Same thing with Buster Posey.
12:39Other people who have red cheeks who look like they're aw shucks.
12:42These are maniacal competitors who see the world for themselves when the rest of the world
12:48doesn't.
12:49And you're right.
12:4999.999% of the people who see that in themselves are wrong.
12:53Yep.
12:53But, like, be the one who's right.
12:58Try.
12:59Try.
13:00And keep trying.
13:01Yes.
13:01I think about Logan Webb as a good example where he was not great in the minors and then he
13:06came out and it's like, oh, this guy's like, his stuff is mediocre.
13:09And then he got stronger, he got better, and now he's one of the 10 or 12 best pitchers in
13:16the National League.
13:17And so, yes, Pods has the ability, considering his road, and he's still very, very young.
13:22He could go out there and prove me and you wrong and eventually be an all-star.
13:27Or he could just be a good, solid 12 or 15-year NBA rotational piece.
13:32Or he could flame out.
13:34And that's basically the way this whole thing goes.
13:37So, the fact that he thinks that he's going to be, you know, somebody who is that dude,
13:43I love that.
13:43That, to me, is not a problem.
13:46And, you know, Kaminga thinks the same thing about himself.
13:49And I honestly think that Kaminga has probably a higher ceiling than Pods does.
13:55Of course.
13:56I agree with that.
13:58So, why do we, I mean, do we get threatened by Kaminga when he wants to, through his agent,
14:02he wants to go out there and be the one and go cook?
14:05I don't.
14:05No, not at all.
14:06That's like that, to me, that's the part that has, I don't know, like that doesn't even have
14:11a seat at the table in terms of all of the, if you want to call it a controversy, it's
14:17not even a controversy, the opinionated nature of what Jonathan Kaminga's Golden State Warriors
14:22career has been to this point.
14:25There are no issues whatsoever with Jonathan thinks that he's really, really good, or we
14:32can even put it another way.
14:34Jonathan wants a shot.
14:35He wants a shot to show the world what he can do.
14:38And, and, and, and great.
14:42If he deserves that.
14:44Wonderful.
14:45If that's how he prioritizes it.
14:47And I think most guys do, because it's also attached to money.
14:50Let's never forget that.
14:52Yeah.
14:52We're all sitting here being like these egomaniacs.
14:55They want the biggest contract they can get the same way every other human being I've ever
15:00met does.
15:02You know?
15:02Let's go to Larry in Hayward.
15:04Hey, Larry, thanks for calling.
15:05What's up?
15:06Uh, yeah.
15:07Can we interpret this as Pod saying that he could be that, you know, like, uh, like
15:13Dib said, that 12 to 15 year, uh, veteran player, but can't we take this as he wants
15:19to grab that baton and show the rest of the people that come into this organization on how
15:25this organization has always been ran and how players in this organization should carry
15:29themselves.
15:30And maybe he just means he wants to grab that baton.
15:33I don't know.
15:35I mean, I like, I wasn't in the room with him when he said these things.
15:38I don't know what the actual sort of like end game goal is.
15:44You know, he has said he wants to be the face of the Warriors.
15:46Now he said this, he has said that he thinks that he's going to be an all-star in this league.
15:52And every time he says one of these things, Larry, people blow it off because quite frankly,
15:57it doesn't matter.
15:58It doesn't like, it doesn't matter if we think that it's, it's realistic or not.
16:02I, I do want people to see tremendous things for themselves and then visualize it and go
16:11make whatever is the max version of that, make it happen.
16:15And, and yeah, like we'll fall short and we'll fall down and we'll fail and we're this,
16:20that, or the other.
16:20But like, I don't know, I guess I'm having a really hard time seeing what the negative
16:25aspect of the downside of this is.
16:27I'm not seeing it at all.
16:28And just hearing you lay that out.
16:30Thank you, Larry.
16:31I'm thinking about what I wanted to be when I was pods age and I wanted to be Al Michaels
16:36or Bob Costas, or I guess Joe Buck wasn't yet Joe Buck, but that's what I wanted to be.
16:42And so I set out to do that.
16:45And as I went through it and I had, you know, obstacles that I put in front of myself and
16:50I had setbacks and I had all the other things, you start to realize that maybe you wind up
16:55being more of a Brandon Pajemski.
16:57And I've had a nice 25 or 30 year run in the business on big time market radio.
17:04Now I'm not going to ever be Al Michael or Bob Costas and don't give up.
17:08Well, very few people are.
17:09I'm I've given that up and it's okay.
17:11It's like Al Horford is never going to be LeBron James.
17:15Al Horford is Al Horford.
17:16He's had a great career of being a 39 year old NBA champ and he's had a great run.
17:22And so it's not about giving up.
17:24It's about getting to a spot where you realize that what you've done is okay and it's enough.
17:30And right now, if you're pods and you're 22, he might be 23.
17:34I'm not sure.
17:35You still have your eyes on the ultimate prize, which is, oh, I'm going to be that guy.
17:39And why would anybody want to throw a wet blanket on that?
17:43Yeah.
17:43Well, again, only if it in some way is becoming detrimental to the team or getting in your way.
17:53Like, I mean, I don't want to be all like psychotherapist here, but what is it about pods that's bugging y'all?
18:01What, like, why is this threatening to, to you if it is, you know, um, 707, no one's mad at pods.
18:10He can have all the confidence in himself in the world.
18:12Still doesn't mean he's going to take the torch from Steph.
18:14Okay.
18:15Why that last sentence?
18:17So what?
18:18So what?
18:20And again, if Steph Curry had said this when Monte Ellis was here, what would you have said?
18:28Hey, I got an idea, y'all.
18:29I know Monte is in front of me right now, but one day he's not going to be.
18:33Not only do I want to be the face of the Warriors.
18:35How about this?
18:36I'd like to be the face of the league.
18:38Let's take it a step further.
18:40Um, I'd like an entire shoe company to base its whole freaking world around me.
18:44I'd like to be the face of the globe.
18:46Hold on.
18:47Hold on.
18:47Not done yet.
18:48I don't want to just be the greatest three-point shooter of all time.
18:51I want to obliterate that record so that anybody who has a different opinion would be laughed out of the room.
18:57In fact, I want to, I want to literally be one of the faces of sport for an entire generation.
19:05Yeah.
19:05Half of you were like, I think we should keep Monte.
19:08More than half of us.
19:09What would you have said if Steph had voiced that?
19:12Because guess what?
19:14That was in his brain.
19:15Sure.
19:16There's no way it wasn't, or this wouldn't be reality.
19:19And he didn't have to take the torch from Monte.
19:21It was a Bic lighter that was low on fuel.
19:24That's what he took.
19:25So if Pods is trying to take the torch from Steph Curry, this thing is an absolute volcano.
19:31So there's no taking anything from Steph Curry.
19:35There's no taking this torch or whatever you want to call it.
19:39When Steph and Draymond and, I guess, Jimmy by proxy and Steve, when they're gone, you're left with nothing.
19:46And whoever is the best player there, you're not taking anything from anybody.
19:51You're trying to be good, and you're trying to rebuild this thing from the ashes.
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