The post-credits scene in Thunderbolts provides fans with some big revelations about the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It's not only said that there are two different Avengers teams (the groups in conflict over the moniker), but the final moment revealed the arrival of the Fantastic Four into the universe via rocket ship. It was particularly cool to see the latter play out when the blockbuster arrived in theaters last May, the glimpse serving as a fun cliffhanger... but those of you who saw Fantastic Four: First Steps this past weekend may have noticed that the new release doesn't make any kind of effort to link up with its MCU predecessor.
So why doesn't the end of Fantastic Four: First Steps line up with the end of Thunderbolts* as the franchise builds to the release of the epic Avengers: Doomsday in December 2026? CinemaBlend's own Jeff McCobb recently broached that subject in an interview with director Matt Shakman during the Los Angeles press day for the new 2025 movie, and the filmmaker gave an honest answer: he couldn't connect the end of his movie to the end of the blockbuster also known as The New Avengers because that movie's end credit scene didn't exist when the script was being written.
00:00Was there any discussion to do something completely different for that scene?
00:03Maybe something that, like, almost directly aligned with the ending of the Thunderbolts with the Fantastic Four?
00:10No, no, no.
00:11Because the Thunderbolts end credit scene was also created, you know, relatively late in my process, too.
00:17So that was not something that I was familiar with because it hadn't been created at the time that I was working on my script, you know.
00:24It sounds like there's a little more creative freedom than maybe some would assume.
00:28Right.
00:28It's not this pre-written book that you're following.
00:31Oh, no, no, definitely not.
00:32You know, I often use the metaphor of it's, you know, like a relay race, right?
00:36You're past the baton, you run your section of it as hard and fast as you can, do the best you can with your version of Fantastic Four, Earth 828, this world, and then you pass the baton, you know, in this case to the Russo brothers, and they run as hard and fast as they can.
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