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Was Actually There - Season 2 Episode 2 -
September 11 Terrorist Attack

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00:00A plane has crashed into the World Trade Center.
00:16The building was there, and it was right in front of my face, and it exploded.
00:20There was a cascade of sparks and fire, and now it looks almost like a mushroom cloud.
00:26I can still hear people screaming, oh my god, oh my god, but I don't remember actually taking those photos.
00:33US President George W. Bush says it appears to be an act of terrorism and has vowed an all-out hunt for those responsible.
00:40When those towers got hit, I was suddenly all about retribution, which I never thought I had capacity for.
00:47I wanted an eye for an eye.
00:56I arrived in New York at the end of 1998, and I remember seeing the World Trade Towers for the first time.
01:09I mean, they were jaw-dropping, they were awe-inspiring, and that's where I was working.
01:15So, the World Trade Center, Tower One, was 110 stories high.
01:19My husband Craig worked on the 94th floor.
01:22My dad worked on the 91st floor of the South Tower.
01:26He had come over from Australia, and he began his career like in the big smoke, he always called it.
01:31I essentially had a desk which was very close to the windows looking north.
01:37I mean, it was a jaw-dropping view.
01:40We have this thing in the States, bring your daughter to work day, and you go in the elevator.
01:45It goes up forever, and ever, and ever. It was very high up.
01:50So, in 2001, I was the US Bureau Chief for Network 10.
01:55I was essentially an economist for one of Australia's largest superannuation companies,
02:01and they thought it would be a good idea to send me to New York to this economics conference.
02:06I was with the cameraman, Paul Atkinson, and we were in Manhattan,
02:09and we had just spent 10 days covering the US Open with Leighton Hewitt.
02:15I'd never been to New York before. I went to the Met. I went on the Staten Island Ferry.
02:19I stayed at the Marriott Hotel, right in between the Twin Towers. Right in between.
02:24The cameraman that I was working with, it had never been to New York.
02:28So, the evening of September 10, I said,
02:30mate, what I want you to do is I want you to wake up,
02:33go down to the World Trade Center, and go up to the roof,
02:37and just orient yourself and see New York.
02:40But make sure you get there early when it opens.
02:47I was living in Tribeca, about eight blocks away from the World Trade Center.
02:50And so, yeah, that morning I remember just being very ordinary.
02:53I just remember it being a lovely day. It was a beautiful fall day.
02:56I had just turned 35, and Craig had given me Daisy, and she was so playful.
03:02Craig was absolutely mad about her.
03:04So, I got up early in the morning and took Craig in a cup of coffee.
03:08I'm in the conference, yeah.
03:09And the conference was in their ballroom at the bottom of the North Tower.
03:13I said, OK, well, I'm going to take Daisy out for another walk.
03:16Call me later, babe. Love you.
03:17And I just walked out the door.
03:25It was, I was in the bathroom. I was brushing my teeth.
03:28And there was a noise that, the noise of the plane went roaring right over the head.
03:33I remember actually cringe. I ducked. And it was so loud.
03:36And it was a really familiar noise. It was a noise when, if you travel a lot, a jet, it, uh,
03:41when they were gunning the engines, that was a noise.
03:43There's, there's no other way to explain it.
03:45I was actually looking out the window.
03:48The building in front of me exploded.
03:51Right in front of my face.
03:53And the chandeliers start shaking.
03:55The floor starts shaking. And people are screaming.
03:58I wasn't immediately thinking, oh, a plane just crashed.
04:00This is Manhattan. That doesn't happen, you know.
04:02I thought, oh, I wonder what the fuss is. Like, come on.
04:04And there were a lot of big loud noises in Manhattan.
04:06It's just a noisy place.
04:08I just remember thinking, I reckon a pipe's exploded.
04:11Pretty big pipe, but that was the best I could come up with.
04:15I wasn't overly concerned. There was no smoke.
04:17There was no fire.
04:19There didn't seem to be any immediate danger.
04:22No one knew what happened.
04:23Your brain can't process these things at quarter to nine on a Tuesday morning.
04:28I want to go live right now and show you a picture of the World Trade Center,
04:33where I understand... Do we have it?
04:35Yes.
04:36No, we do not.
04:38We have a breaking story, though.
04:40We're going to come back with that in just a moment.
04:41First, this is today on NBC.
04:43I moved to New York January 2000.
04:46I was working as a bike messenger, where there's not really much future in that career.
04:51You don't make much money. It's very dangerous.
04:53Everyone hates you. It's very fun, yeah.
04:55I was living with my girlfriend at the time, and her mom had called the landline in the apartment,
05:01woke me up, and I remember Rose saying,
05:04Hey, Michael, do you know what's going on today?
05:06So, in math class, there were some rumblings out in the hallway that something had happened.
05:10The teacher, like, left the room for a minute, I remember, and there was just something in the air that, like, something is going on.
05:16The door's banging, and my husband is at the door. And I opened the door, and he fell in front of me and said,
05:22A plane, a plane. It hit the building. I'm like, What are you talking about, a building?
05:26And he's hit a plane. I just saw it. It hit the trade center.
05:29And, uh, so we went to the top of the building, six-story building. You can see the World Trade Center.
05:34It's, like, this much of a view, but the smoke is just filling the sky.
05:40All of a sudden, over the loudspeaker, I got called down to the office.
05:43The woman at the front desk just said, Your mom's on the phone.
05:46We went out just down the stairs, and there was a giant gash in the top of the building, but it was the shape of an airplane.
05:54It was like the Tom and Jerry cartoons when you go to the wall, it's the shape of a cat.
05:58It was the shape of an airplane.
06:03And so I picked up the phone, and my mom said, Everything's fine.
06:06I talked to your dad. Like, something's happened in the city, and I just want you to come home right now.
06:11I can't say she sounded calm. She was a bit frantic, but I feel like that's kind of her personality.
06:16Like, everything is a disaster. But I kind of took it with a grain of salt. Like, everything's probably fine.
06:21I thought I'd go upstairs and get my bags packed. They wouldn't allow me that, to do that,
06:27because the alarms were sounding. But as we're standing there, a woman comes into the foyer, and she's on fire.
06:38And she wasn't the only one. People who were outside the hotel and outside Tower One got doused in jet fumes and were incinerated.
06:49And we have a breaking news story to tell you about. Apparently, a plane has just crashed into the World Trade Center.
06:55We have very little information available.
06:58The first thing you do when you're on assignment, when you wake up, is you put the TV on to see the morning news.
07:03I turned the news on, having some Vegema on a bagel, as you do when you're in New York.
07:08And then just something made me look at the TV.
07:11And I saw that there was a plane in the side of her building, and I thought, what?
07:17So I turned the news up, and then I thought, I think this is real. There's been a really horrific accident.
07:25And then I realised very quickly what was going on, and I thought, oh, my God.
07:29I told Paul to go to the World Trade Center. So, obviously, I rang his room, and it didn't answer.
07:35I called his office number, and there was no response. So then I tried to call his cell.
07:40That didn't answer, and I just thought, oh, my God, I've done something really bad.
07:44So I just left a message to say, look, something bad's really happened to your building.
07:49You need to get out of there, find somewhere safe. When you're safe, call me.
07:52So I ran next door and banged on his door.
07:55Took a while, but he came to the door, and he's like, yeah, what?
07:59So he decided to sleep in. I'm really pleased he ignored me.
08:05So then I thought, well, I can't reach him via cell. I'll run over there.
08:09My mentality was, bike messengers, we get in everywhere.
08:12Always know the back door to places. I was thinking, I'm going to go in there and check it out.
08:16I'm going to get inside those buildings.
08:17And I said, get dressed, meet me outside, bring the gear.
08:23We couldn't see anything. We still didn't know what was going on.
08:26I mean, why is a lady on fire in a hotel?
08:30I think that I was almost in a bit of a trance, actually.
08:34The noise around you was not quite getting through to you.
08:38And that's when there was this message that came over the intercom saying,
08:44I can't remember the exact word, something, you know, don't panic, whatever it said.
08:49That clicked me into gear, and I thought, you know what?
08:52I'm 92 floors in the air. I want my feet on the ground.
08:55They assessed that we couldn't go out the main doors.
08:58Things were coming down. It was not safe to go out then.
09:01We had to go out the far end.
09:03I started going down the stairs, so I had 92 floors to get down.
09:07I'm standing at the exit, and yesterday there were cars, taxis, people honking horns.
09:14And I'm standing at the door looking out, and I can see cars on fire.
09:19I can see rubble in the road, and the air is just filled with burning paper.
09:26And then they say, do not look up, put your hands over your head, and run across the road.
09:32Get away to safety.
09:34I got a third away along the Brooklyn Bridge, and then I was grabbed by two women who were fleeing from downtown.
09:46They held onto me, and they said, you can't go over there.
09:48And I said, well, my husband's over in that building, and I need to get over there.
09:53And they said, we can't let you go.
09:55The phone started ringing.
10:01A friend called up and said, did you see that?
10:03So he turned the television on, and as I was on the phone, the second plane hit.
10:08And it banked and just exploded into the South Tower.
10:18I felt like King Kong picked up the building and shook it.
10:21That's the only way that I could.
10:23I was thrown forward.
10:24I caught myself.
10:25And then it was honestly being like in the surf getting thrown around with this overwhelming sense
10:31that this whole building is going to fall down because a building can't shake like this and not come down.
10:36It's just shattered.
10:37There's concrete and flames and smoke, and everybody's screaming again.
10:42It looked like a special effect.
10:43It was as if you were watching a movie, but knowing it was real.
10:46It was the opposite of watching a movie and knowing it was not real.
10:50We were seeing something real, and it seemed fake to you.
10:53I'm standing there looking at the building, and I see a lady blown out of the window and cartwheels across my eye line and smashes to it if I can see her today.
11:04Mid-40s, blue-gray pantsuit, dark hair, rag doll.
11:09That's when people started sort of pouring into the stairs after that, right?
11:13So I remember thinking, I'm still higher than what I used to work in Sydney.
11:16So I was around the 40th floor, and you couldn't move because there were so many people.
11:20Some bloke turned around to me and said, really lucky this isn't a real emergency.
11:25Because no one knew, right?
11:28But look, those stairs were never-ending and just terrible.
11:35It was at that point that I decided I've got to get out of here.
11:38So there were hordes of people coming towards us, hordes of them.
11:43It was terrifying to see people coming across the bridge, running, you know, just to get away.
11:51To be quite honest, I do not remember the walk from the towers to the Staten Island ferry.
11:57It's just a blur.
11:58So we got to the street and we were milling about.
12:00We noticed that there were people in front of us going, hush, shush, shush, shush, shush.
12:04And there was some teachers leading a group of school children away from the site.
12:09There was a school at the bottom of the Trade Centre, and they were singing the song.
12:14And as they walked past it, we were all kind of like, ah, clapped and like, you know,
12:17trying to make them feel happy as they walked past us.
12:20But yeah, it was an effort of the whole crowd not to panic the kids.
12:25It stuck with me.
12:27We did.
12:28The ultimate outcome, clearly, was that I got to the bottom.
12:34Finally exiting these stairs and running up the other way were all the fireys.
12:39They were knocking themselves over to get into that building, right?
12:42And I've got to tell you, every single, not one of those brave guys that went the other
12:48way, they didn't, they didn't let you tell that.
12:51That morning, that morning I was very tired.
12:55I was, got home late and I was sleeping.
12:58I was awakened by the family.
13:00And they had told me that, ah, the building was hit by a plane.
13:04So I knew that I was, I would have to go.
13:07I was a firefighter in a special unit in South Bronx, so we were always training for something
13:12big.
13:13Actually, I was on vacation.
13:15So when I responded, technically, the city owes me money.
13:21I'm only kidding.
13:22How are we going to get there?
13:23That was all I was worried about.
13:24This is not something that you can get a press release on and regurgitate it.
13:28You've got to live it.
13:29You've got to live the story.
13:30I was stopped at the midtown tunnel.
13:32It was closed at that time.
13:33They would not let any civilian cars to go by.
13:36So I just jumped on a fire truck as it went by.
13:39On the way down there, so I used to carry a disposable camera.
13:44I think there's 24 photos in there and there's only three left.
13:48So I thought I'd stop into a little corner deli, pick one up.
13:51Just chaos in there.
13:52Just people running around.
13:53No one's serving me.
13:54They're on the counter.
13:56I just took one.
13:57Went on my way.
13:58Sorry.
13:59And I made it all the way around to the south side and I took a couple of photos.
14:05So as we were heading down to the scene, I did call Sandra Sully who was on the desk
14:11and they were going live.
14:12We have Michelle Stone, TENS correspondent on the streets of New York at the moment.
14:16Michelle, describe the chaos if you can.
14:18Well, Sandra, you can probably hear it in the background.
14:21The streets have come to a standstill.
14:25But after that we lost contact because we had no mobile reception.
14:30And I remember being on the bridge and seeing things falling.
14:34And I could see these black things coming off the building and I thought, what the hell's
14:39that?
14:40And it was actually people.
14:41I found out that people were taking their own lives.
14:44So many of them.
14:46It seemed like every 30 seconds there'd be people falling down and some people holding
14:51hands.
14:52And it was just so hopeless.
14:54That was their only option, you know?
14:57I said to Paul, stop filming.
14:59Well, it is a grotesque sight to look at from about 30 blocks away from where we are.
15:06For those of you just joining us, let's just briefly recap what we know.
15:11Air travel in this country has come to a halt this morning as clearly people are trying to
15:18figure out what exactly is going on.
15:21OK, so when I got home, the news was on.
15:23And so this was the first time I'd seen the TV.
15:26And I don't know if that was the best place for me to be in front of the TV.
15:31But nonetheless, like, that's what happened.
15:33I'm glued to the TV, waiting for any sort of news.
15:37And it's just constant people replaying the planes going into the towers.
15:42Just, like, over and over and over again.
15:44I was just numb.
15:45Like, I didn't cry.
15:46Like, I was just in shock.
15:48As bad as it was, if I caught a glimpse of him on TV or something, then at least I
15:53would know that he was going to be OK.
15:55So that's why I was glued to the TV.
15:57I was trying to find him in the crowd.
15:59When you're 13 years old, like, you just want to, like, feel safe and know that, like,
16:03adults, like, have everything under control and, like, know what's going on.
16:06And nobody did.
16:17I thought by the time I got down to the Staten Island ferry that things were good.
16:21But it's while I'm in the ferry terminal that things change again.
16:25I think I'm going to die.
16:27We respond, we go into the city, and there we actually saw the first building come down.
16:34All of a sudden, there are explosions, one after the other.
16:42I'd put a few blocks between me and it by then.
16:45But I, just the screaming, I saw it all happen.
16:48Boom, boom, boom.
16:50These were explosions that were happening a kilometre away, but the entire building was shaking.
16:55And then just the plume of dust, just rising up into the sky.
16:59OK.
17:03This surely is the darkest day in the history of terrorism in America.
17:10It was massive, barrelling down this canyon of a road that we were in, filling the entire space.
17:23It's one evil black mess coming straight at the people who were on the outside.
17:29And we had maybe three seconds to think about what to do.
17:32You know, what's in it?
17:33Asbestos, other stuff.
17:35They're screaming.
17:36I mean, it was horrid.
17:37As we got closer to it, the amount of people that were coming up, running from all directions.
17:42There are people everywhere.
17:44There's millions of people on the streets.
17:46Majority going that way.
17:48Get me out of here.
17:49There were people flooding down to have a look.
17:51For me, I was actually trying to control my breathing because now I am actually running down, running into the cloud.
17:57And I saw out of the corner of my eye this roller door coming down.
18:00And I screamed at Paul.
18:02I just told him, leave the gear.
18:04And I ran and dived under this roller door when there was probably about that much left to go.
18:09And I think Paul went under a car.
18:12Yeah.
18:13And then it was, it felt like forever.
18:15Sorry.
18:19Yeah.
18:20I was just worried about him.
18:25Close the door.
18:26Close the door.
18:27Money.
18:28Well, after I came out of the garage, we got back together.
18:32And I just said, okay, let's go.
18:34So we kept working.
18:36Did the only thing that felt appropriate in the circumstances and found a bar that was still open in Greenwich Village and went and had a pint.
18:43That's when I saw it on the television.
18:46I almost felt physically sick saying it.
18:49I didn't realize the magnitude of it.
18:53I don't remember the first building falling.
18:59I remember the second one that fell, which is building number one.
19:02That was the one that had the big antenna.
19:05I saw the antenna kind of just twist a bit.
19:08And I was like, oh, no.
19:14I heard something like crackling.
19:16I look up and this thing is coming down.
19:23Everyone did the same thing.
19:24They all started screaming, no, no, no, no.
19:26And they were holding their hands up, you know, as if trying to hold the building.
19:29So I was taking photos, photo, wine, photo, wine, photo, wine.
19:33This smoke was coming up the street.
19:35I get my bike and I took two photos behind my head like this.
19:38You notice the ones are off center there.
19:41If you didn't get out there, you're dead.
19:43I remember just having this intense pain in my chest.
19:47I thought for, you know, a split second, he's gone.
19:52He's gone.
19:53And then I thought, no, I'm not allowing myself to think that way.
19:58Hang on to hope.
19:59He'll be all right.
20:01He'll be fine.
20:06It's hard to explain.
20:07As a news photographer, you don't ever hope for anything like that to happen.
20:12But if and when it does happen, you hope you're there to cover it.
20:18You spend your whole life perfecting your craft to cover the biggest job.
20:23And this was the biggest job of my career.
20:30One thing that people don't realize down there, it's like there was no color.
20:35It was black and white.
20:37It wiped all the color out of everything.
20:39The dust was just like a layer of snow, and it was on everything.
20:44There's a lot of smoke still.
20:46There's stuff still burning, the ground's burning.
20:49Oh, my God.
20:50I must have breathed in every carcinogen known to man that day.
20:53On my forearms, I could feel like a slight burning on my forearms.
20:57And in my mouth, there was like a little bit of blood in it.
21:01We had just survived the second collapse, so there's nothing else coming down.
21:04So now it's recovery.
21:07We've got to start making searches.
21:09I still can never forget the sounds of the little alarms that firefighters wear.
21:17They go off if they haven't moved for a certain amount of time, and it's a beeping noise.
21:22I could hear them going everywhere.
21:25Just that beeping.
21:26I'll never forget the beeping.
21:27Knowing that wherever it's coming from, there was somebody down, somebody in trouble.
21:33I focused on getting interviews with people.
21:36There were crying firemen and police officers.
21:40Like, they were weeping.
21:41It was pretty bad.
21:42The firemen who went down there that day, you know, many of them, you know, lost their lives.
21:48I looked up and saw a fire truck with, like, the crane on the back, the bucket.
21:55And it was stretched up, and I thought, they've found somebody.
21:59We covered him, took him out.
22:02I opened his coat up, realized he was my own guy.
22:06And the photo I took of that firefighter doing it, the anguish on his face, I'll never forget, like, how upset he looked.
22:16I was a mess.
22:17I was bleeding out of my mouth.
22:18My hand wouldn't stop shaking.
22:20Yeah, I don't remember too much more.
22:22Just wasn't a good day.
22:25I think that's why his face looked like that, because there were so many still under that rubble.
22:33And the chances of them surviving were pretty low.
22:36I think you either were lightly damaged, or you didn't make it out.
22:44The thing you need to keep in mind is that I've got a family who's watching this live on television.
22:50My wife is watching me essentially being murdered at the bottom of the Twin Towers.
22:56She doesn't know.
22:57Nobody can get in touch with anybody, and people couldn't call out out of the city.
23:01The landlines went down for a while, the mobiles went down for a while.
23:04Because there was so much chaos, so much pandemonium.
23:07It was hours, but it's the phone call you want to make.
23:10Hi, sweetheart. It's me. I'm safe. I'm safe.
23:14You know, being a bit of an optimist, you know, I was always hopeful that he would, you know, survive this, and he would come home.
23:20I think there was this moment where somebody saw somebody, like, walking around disoriented in Hoboken, and they thought my dad hit his head and he was confused.
23:29Maybe he was knocked unconscious. Maybe he left the building so quickly that he didn't take his ID with him.
23:35We were just holding out hope that, like, oh, yeah, like, he would obviously come back. Like, he would walk through the door.
23:41So, as the afternoon went on, it got quieter and quieter, strangely.
23:47And so I looked outside, and there was just this big absence in the sky.
23:52It's the whole skyline had changed. Yeah. The whole neighbourhood had changed. Didn't look like where we lived anymore.
24:00The day after the horrific attacks, smoke still swirls above the New York skyline.
24:10Everyone knew somebody who was missing, no matter who you talked to, because so many people worked there at the World Trade Center.
24:17The people began posting up pictures of their loved ones missing, and there were hundreds of them, like, hundreds of them, like, people's faces.
24:24There was pictures of missing people going up all over Manhattan, and I'd be standing at a crossing, and you'd see someone looking at you who used to be on your floor at work, right?
24:33And months and months afterwards, those were the faces of people on the street. They never came back, you know.
24:39But I wasn't going to give up hope. My job is to find him and bring him home, because there was no way I was going to phone his mum and tell her that I hadn't found him.
24:50My mum, on Wednesday, September 12th, she had to file a missing persons report because my dad wasn't home.
24:57When we were waiting to register him as missing, it started to ripple through the line, the hysteria.
25:04I know that I had one moment where I broke down and was kind of, like, inconsolable.
25:09A woman who was standing a couple of feet away from me, she was sobbing, and it was loud, and I could just feel myself starting to unravel a little bit.
25:19Something happened to me that day. Whatever bit of, like, innocence that I had left was gone after that.
25:27I found out that the plane went through Tower 1 from the 93rd floor up through to, I think it was about 96.
25:36The chances of him surviving was negligible.
25:40It was, like, seven, eight months I worked down there in the recovery, recovering anything.
25:48You know, at that point, bodies and also DNA. Anything we can get, you know, we hand over.
25:55We weren't able to have a funeral because there was nothing to bury.
25:59We had a memorial planned for him. So the night before, a police officer shows up at our door, and they tell us that they found my dad's body the night before.
26:11We were invited to go down, and I was presented with an urn which contained soil from the World Trade Center site.
26:20We had, like, a viewing time for just the family in the funeral home before we went to the church, and not to get too morbid, but you could still smell, like, a decaying body.
26:30Like, you could smell it if you were standing next to it.
26:34And I'm 13.
26:35It was a lovely gesture, but, yeah, just felt very overwhelmed, and, you know, it sort of felt very final.
26:43But, yeah, to this day, Craig has not been formally identified.
26:47Well, it was just under 3,000 people died directly.
26:52Everyone I worked with was on my floor who were there that morning.
26:56There was very, very few of us who managed to get out.
27:00But how many people died from smoke and dust inhalation, we don't know.
27:07And also a lot of other firefighters died in the next 10 years with cancers.
27:12It's almost guaranteed that every three weeks we have some kind of funeral.
27:17It's been like that for the past 24 years.
27:19And it's, uh, it's ongoing.
27:21Everybody thinks of 9-11 as, like, one trauma.
27:33For me, it was, like, many, many, many re-traumatizations over time.
27:38You know, it's like I'll be in my car listening to the radio, and there's a 9-11 reference.
27:43It just takes me by surprise.
27:44Like, my stomach's in my throat all of a sudden.
27:47Like, oh, there it is.
27:48I can't watch movies or documentaries or any reporting about September 11 event
27:54because I just don't want to see it anymore 25 years later.
27:58The only people I would actually talk to about this that day, you know?
28:02I don't talk to anybody about this.
28:04I disengaged with that discussion because everyone has their own kind of, like,
28:08everyone wants to own it for a different reason.
28:09Everybody remembers what they were doing at that exact moment in time.
28:13But I don't care, you know, that you were eating Wheaties or whatever you were doing
28:18because my dad was dying.
28:20If one person had died, there's a friend of yours who takes a lot of getting over.
28:25You just can't process grief or loss on that scale.
28:29You don't see people blown out of windows every day.
28:32You don't see people burning to death every day.
28:35Putting this in a box and putting it away and not thinking too much about it,
28:40it's been quite a good strategy for me.
28:42You don't want to open that up in a Pandora box, you know?
28:45Time is interesting in that the grief never leaves you,
28:52but you learn different ways to be able to manage it.
28:57A few years later, I've met someone else and we get married in 2006,
29:02and then I have my son in 2012.
29:06I don't want to forget Craig, but I don't want the grief of all that.
29:12I don't want to bring that into my new relationship
29:16because it is so full of joy.
29:19It's taken a long time for me to actually find that balance
29:22where they actually sit side by side, and that's okay.
29:27I think as I've gotten older, I've gotten married,
29:31had a bunch of these milestones happen,
29:33I think it's gotten harder, actually.
29:35Like, I feel like I've been able to process more of my grief.
29:38Don't get me wrong, there are days where I've been completely dismal
29:41and crying uncontrollably.
29:44Never going to Australia, like, with my dad,
29:47and, like, my dad will never meet my husband,
29:49he'll never meet my children, like, those things are really hard.
29:52I think that that event, one thing that I question,
29:56would my life be different if that didn't exist,
29:59where I saw a thousand people dying in one moment,
30:02what would my life be like?
30:04Who would I be had this not happened to me?
30:08I would have this completely different life.
30:10I would have this completely different life.
30:40That's why Ifunctional A.
30:41I do not know the thing that I'mした.
30:42I'm saying A.
30:43I'm a cos as its own situation here
30:47Medicine is completely different.
30:49The M.D.
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