Is France Even Western? Twitter/X Space

Stefan Molyneux

In this Flash X Space from 5 October 2025, Stefan Molyneux humorously begins by discussing his relaxed state before exploring the complexities of India's caste system and colonialism. He critiques environmental responsibility among major polluters, favoring free-market solutions. The conversation touches on ancestry, identity, and the impact of colonial legacies on Latin American politics. Molyneux also shares concern for Jordan Peterson, reflecting on societal pressures. Throughout, he inspires critical thought and a pursuit of truth.   SUBSCRIBE TO ME ON X! https://x.com/StefanMolyneux   Follow me on Youtube! https://www.youtube.com/@freedomain1   GET MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING', THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI, AND THE FULL AUDIOBOOK!  https://peacefulparenting.com/   Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!   Subscribers get 12 HOURS on the "Truth About the French Revolution," multiple interactive multi-lingual philosophy AIs trained on thousands of hours of my material - as well as AIs for Real-Time Relationships, Bitcoin, Peaceful Parenting, and Call-In Shows!   You also receive private livestreams, HUNDREDS of exclusive premium shows, early release podcasts, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!   See you soon!  https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2025

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00:00:00so

00:00:01I'm sorry

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00:00:08I'm so sorry

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00:00:10I'm just lying here

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00:00:16and I wanted to talk philosophy

00:00:17so I have a few minutes until

00:00:19my next thing and I just wanted to

00:00:21drop by and say hi to everyone

00:00:23and thank you all for

00:00:25showing your interest in philosophy

00:00:27and

00:00:27oh this

00:00:31this Indian thread

00:00:33which sort of erupted

00:00:35when our good friend Elon Musk

00:00:37retweeted one of my tweets

00:00:39about how

00:00:41you know if you go to

00:00:42if people come from let's say overseas

00:00:45and become British then people who are

00:00:47British goes to go to India

00:00:49and therefore they were Indian

00:00:51therefore there's no colonialism they were just Indians oppressing themselves

00:00:53and this really has become

00:00:56it's a wild education

00:00:57I remember back

00:00:58back in the day

00:00:59in my sort of former incarnation

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00:01:07it was like some

00:01:08I can't remember the number

00:01:09but it was some crazy number of

00:01:10infanticide of females in India

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00:01:15there's definitely

00:01:16look obviously some brilliant Indians

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00:01:19amazing stuff

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00:01:23somebody was saying

00:01:25that the caste system

00:01:26which is a very sort of rigid

00:01:27caste system

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00:01:30the caste system

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00:01:33is 3000 years old

00:01:35give or take

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00:01:37now somebody's telling me

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00:01:39white people imposed

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00:01:42Aryans

00:01:43imposed the caste system

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00:01:45I'm sorry

00:01:46and the reason

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00:01:47there's nothing funny about the caste system

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00:01:50it's not that

00:01:51and I don't mean to sound cold and callous

00:01:52about the suffering

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00:01:56but

00:01:56to simply have this perspective

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00:02:02the Indians will say

00:02:04but your ancestors

00:02:05were squatting in caves

00:02:06when our ancestors

00:02:08were building a great civilization

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00:02:12the British

00:02:13the British came late to civilization

00:02:16after being conquered by

00:02:17the Romans

00:02:18the French

00:02:20the Vikings

00:02:21each other

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00:02:24I made jokes

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00:02:27the British was so primitive

00:02:29you know

00:02:31sort of 2000 years ago

00:02:32the British was so primitive

00:02:33they thought that they gained

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00:02:35by painting themselves

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00:02:37and my joke was like

00:02:38if there was a nuclear war

00:02:39the ancient Britons would believe

00:02:40that

00:02:40the only things that would survive

00:02:42is cockroaches

00:02:43and the blue man group

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00:02:45I mean

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00:02:47looking at the deficiencies

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00:02:49ancestors

00:02:49yeah

00:02:50I mean

00:02:51it's just facts

00:02:51I don't know why people get so ego invested

00:02:53in all this kind of stuff

00:02:54it's just facts

00:02:55my ancestors

00:02:57largely sucked

00:02:58you know

00:02:59if you go back

00:03:00far enough

00:03:01and

00:03:02your ancestors sucked

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00:03:04most of human history

00:03:05until about five minutes ago

00:03:07sucked into galactic

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00:03:13I mean

00:03:14the

00:03:14Indian continent

00:03:16subcontinent

00:03:17there was no India

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00:03:18when the British arrived

00:03:19it was just a bunch of

00:03:20warring principalities

00:03:21they were all

00:03:21exploiting each other

00:03:22and subjugating each other

00:03:24and dominating each other

00:03:25and

00:03:25and so on

00:03:26and you know

00:03:27it was either going to be the British

00:03:28or it was going to be

00:03:30the Muslims

00:03:32probably

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00:03:33so

00:03:33if I had the choice

00:03:34I'd go

00:03:35a little bit more

00:03:36where the food is poorer

00:03:37and the laws are better

00:03:38but yeah

00:03:39so just this paradox

00:03:41and people get so wrapped up

00:03:42in this ancestor stuff

00:03:43it's wild

00:03:44I mean

00:03:44don't take pride

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00:03:47you can have admiration

00:03:48for various cultures

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00:03:50I can't think of a single culture

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00:03:55I've really

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00:04:01in many ways

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00:04:07and

00:04:08the black community

00:04:10has brought

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00:04:13you know

00:04:13the

00:04:13Spanish community

00:04:15Mexican community

00:04:16the Hispanic community

00:04:17have brought wonderful things

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00:04:20and the Europeans

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00:04:22I mean

00:04:22the Asians

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00:04:24I look at Asian engineering

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00:04:29sort of East Asian

00:04:30not South Asian

00:04:31fantastic

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00:04:33love Indian food

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00:04:36each culture

00:04:36sort of bring things

00:04:37but it's just

00:04:38it's just wild

00:04:39it's just wild

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00:04:41people are so invested

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00:04:46this like

00:04:46your

00:04:47your ancestors

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00:04:50when my ancestors

00:04:51had this great civilization

00:04:52oh

00:04:52and your ancestors

00:04:53while squatting in caves

00:04:56imposed the caste system

00:04:57on us

00:04:57so my ancestors

00:04:59were squatting in caves

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00:05:02Germany I guess

00:05:04and

00:05:04not only squatting in caves

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00:05:08painting

00:05:09painting strange symbols

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00:05:11with their own body products

00:05:13but

00:05:14not only were they

00:05:15squatting in caves

00:05:16but they were also

00:05:18amazing time

00:05:19and space travelers

00:05:20squatting in caves

00:05:21while simultaneously

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00:05:28amazing

00:05:29I mean that's really

00:05:30incredible

00:05:31they had portals

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00:05:32they had portals

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00:05:33led them to grow

00:05:34a hundred times in size

00:05:35to be transported to India

00:05:36to impose the caste system

00:05:38and

00:05:39I don't know

00:05:40it's wild

00:05:41anyway

00:05:41I'm here

00:05:42I'm here to chat with y'all

00:05:44if you have

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00:05:50I was

00:05:50I can be pretty

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00:05:55being foolish

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00:05:57somebody said

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00:06:02I do

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00:06:03I do

00:06:04I will return

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00:06:07because I'm not

00:06:08a pacifist

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00:06:09I very much

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00:06:11love thy neighbor

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00:06:13myself

00:06:14so I don't know

00:06:15how you handle it

00:06:16I don't know

00:06:16how you do it

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00:06:17but I'm certainly

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00:06:20if I'm being

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00:06:21what do I call

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00:06:23if I'm being

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00:06:25I call

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00:06:29I wouldn't say

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00:06:32when I'm being

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00:06:37in the summer

00:06:38I had

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00:06:43statistical distribution

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00:06:47and I just said

00:06:47you know what

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00:06:48I got it wrong

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00:06:50I'm wrong

00:06:51I don't know

00:06:52why this ego

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00:06:55ew

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00:06:56you can't be

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00:07:01if I see

00:07:01somebody

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00:07:04if I see

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00:07:06I will say

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00:07:07I don't

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00:07:10I don't

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00:07:12but we

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00:07:19neighbor as

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00:07:21I'll call

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00:08:00am I'm

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00:08:02now actually

00:08:03no seventh

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00:08:10if anything

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00:08:14I will

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00:08:18Jacob

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00:08:21what is on

00:08:22your mind

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00:08:25yes

00:08:25see some

00:08:26people get

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00:08:28some people

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00:08:37India and

00:08:38China I

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00:08:39I wonder

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00:08:42I had this

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00:08:44self-defense

00:08:45where they're

00:08:46destroying the

00:08:47planet and

00:08:47what can we

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00:08:49yeah

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00:08:53well listen

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00:08:58free market

00:08:59I'm a

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00:09:00and a

00:09:00narco-capitalist

00:09:01which means

00:09:01I'm an

00:09:02advocate for

00:09:02a state

00:09:03the society

00:09:03because whatever

00:09:04you ask the

00:09:05government to

00:09:05do to solve

00:09:06these problems

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00:09:11it's not a

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00:09:13it's not a

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00:09:18have to

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00:09:21climates

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00:09:22winter

00:09:22has just

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00:09:26we just

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00:09:33warmer climates

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00:09:34don't have

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00:09:48I don't

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00:09:50we need

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00:09:53planet

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00:09:54our lives

00:09:55people

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00:09:56initiation

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00:09:58characterizes

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00:09:59power

00:09:59is

00:09:59immoral

00:10:01so

00:10:01you know

00:10:03I never

00:10:03like asking

00:10:04the government

00:10:04to do

00:10:05anything

00:10:05because

00:10:05whatever

00:10:06you ask

00:10:06the government

00:10:06to protect

00:10:07you from

00:10:07will end

00:10:07up being

00:10:08taken over

00:10:08in general

00:10:09by your

00:10:09worst enemies

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00:10:10to make

00:10:11your life

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00:10:12unpleasant

00:10:13so

00:10:13as a

00:10:15free society

00:10:17how would

00:10:18we address

00:10:18that

00:10:18at

00:10:19neighbors

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00:10:20and doing

00:10:20things

00:10:21that affect

00:10:22us

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00:10:24the way

00:10:24that a

00:10:25free society

00:10:26does it

00:10:26let's just

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00:10:27particular

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00:10:28so

00:10:29let's say

00:10:30you buy

00:10:31a house

00:10:32on a river

00:10:33and you just

00:10:34you love the river

00:10:34it's peaceful

00:10:35lots of fish

00:10:36and you love to

00:10:37swim in it

00:10:38and so on

00:10:38and then I

00:10:39open up some

00:10:40battery factory

00:10:41or some

00:10:41paint factory

00:10:42up river

00:10:43and I just

00:10:44start dumping

00:10:44all of this

00:10:45crap

00:10:45into the

00:10:47river

00:10:47now the

00:10:47traditional

00:10:47answer is

00:10:48well

00:10:48you go to

00:10:49the government

00:10:49and you say

00:10:50you know

00:10:51please go and

00:10:52solve this

00:10:53problem for me

00:10:54and get the

00:10:54guy to

00:10:54stop polluting

00:10:55now actually

00:10:56pollution

00:10:56you know

00:10:57they always

00:10:58talk about

00:10:58these dark

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00:10:59mills

00:11:00of the

00:11:0019th century

00:11:02the air

00:11:03pollution

00:11:03that characterized

00:11:05the industrial

00:11:05revolution

00:11:06in England

00:11:07and not many

00:11:08people know

00:11:08it's a fairly

00:11:09obscure bit

00:11:09of history

00:11:10but not many

00:11:11people know

00:11:12sorry

00:11:12would you

00:11:12mind

00:11:13I'm sorry

00:11:13much though

00:11:14I love

00:11:14background

00:11:15baby noises

00:11:15I can do

00:11:17that

00:11:17no problem

00:11:17so

00:11:18the

00:11:20apple farmers

00:11:21in London

00:11:22were having

00:11:23a bad

00:11:24time

00:11:24when the

00:11:25factory

00:11:25owners

00:11:26first started

00:11:27pumping all

00:11:28their crap

00:11:28into the

00:11:29atmosphere

00:11:29it coated

00:11:30all of the

00:11:31apples

00:11:31and made

00:11:33them inedible

00:11:33and so

00:11:35the apple

00:11:35farmers

00:11:36went to the

00:11:37court system

00:11:37which you

00:11:38know

00:11:38Dickens was a

00:11:39court reporter

00:11:40Charles Dickens

00:11:40was a court

00:11:41reporter

00:11:41and knew how

00:11:42bad it was

00:11:43and there's

00:11:43many sequences

00:11:45or scenes

00:11:45within his

00:11:46books talking

00:11:46about how

00:11:47bad the

00:11:47court system

00:11:48was

00:11:48and he

00:11:50actually was

00:11:51partially

00:11:51responsible for

00:11:52getting reforms

00:11:53into the

00:11:53court system

00:11:53so things

00:11:55could be

00:11:55resolved

00:11:55relatively

00:11:56quickly

00:11:56or at least

00:11:56faster than

00:11:57they used

00:11:57to be

00:11:57so all of

00:11:58the apple

00:11:59farmers went

00:12:00to the

00:12:00government

00:12:00and said

00:12:01we're suing

00:12:01these

00:12:02manufacturers

00:12:03because they're

00:12:05putting all this

00:12:05crap in the air

00:12:06which is destroying

00:12:07our apple

00:12:07crop and so

00:12:08on

00:12:08and unfortunately

00:12:10the government

00:12:11what the

00:12:12government did

00:12:12was it

00:12:13basically looked

00:12:14at the amount

00:12:15of taxes it

00:12:15was collecting

00:12:16from the apple

00:12:16farmers and

00:12:17said well

00:12:18that's not

00:12:18very much

00:12:19and then it

00:12:19looked at the

00:12:19amount of

00:12:20taxes it

00:12:20was collecting

00:12:21from the

00:12:22industrial

00:12:22manufacturers

00:12:23and they

00:12:24said well

00:12:24boy that's

00:12:25a whole lot

00:12:25because you're

00:12:26employing a lot

00:12:26of people

00:12:27and you're

00:12:28paying a lot

00:12:28of taxes

00:12:29and so

00:12:30basically they

00:12:30said to the

00:12:31farmers

00:12:31too bad

00:12:33too bad

00:12:33so sad

00:12:34we're not

00:12:35giving you

00:12:35anything

00:12:36and they

00:12:36sided with

00:12:37the industry

00:12:38now of course

00:12:39and that's

00:12:40sort of like

00:12:40giving immunity

00:12:42to vaccine

00:12:42manufacturers

00:12:43right it just

00:12:44takes all of

00:12:44the desire for

00:12:45quality out

00:12:45so they didn't

00:12:46end up having

00:12:47to clean up

00:12:47the smokestacks

00:12:48because the

00:12:49government

00:12:49cited them

00:12:50now whether

00:12:51this was a

00:12:52rational calculation

00:12:53of tax revenue

00:12:55or you know

00:12:56outright bribery

00:12:57because the new

00:12:57manufacturers had a

00:12:58lot more money

00:12:59than the apple

00:13:01farmers so maybe

00:13:01they just bribed

00:13:02people I don't

00:13:02know but the

00:13:03net result

00:13:04the net net

00:13:05as people used

00:13:06to say

00:13:06the net result

00:13:07was that the

00:13:08apple farmers

00:13:09could not get

00:13:10any redress

00:13:10for the

00:13:12pollution that

00:13:13was destroying

00:13:14their farms

00:13:15and they

00:13:15ended up

00:13:16just having

00:13:16to sell

00:13:17and move

00:13:17and then

00:13:18this has

00:13:18set the

00:13:19stage for

00:13:19all of this

00:13:19absolutely

00:13:20appalling

00:13:21levels of

00:13:22pollution

00:13:23that went

00:13:24on from there

00:13:24so the

00:13:25government

00:13:25doesn't really

00:13:25solve the

00:13:26problem of

00:13:26pollution

00:13:26at least

00:13:27in that

00:13:27instance

00:13:27and was

00:13:28just a

00:13:28terrible

00:13:29thing

00:13:29so the

00:13:29way that

00:13:30it works

00:13:30in a

00:13:31free society

00:13:32is when

00:13:34you buy

00:13:34your property

00:13:35on the

00:13:36lake

00:13:36sorry

00:13:36when you

00:13:37buy your

00:13:37property

00:13:37on the

00:13:37river

00:13:38this

00:13:38down

00:13:38river

00:13:38from me

00:13:39then you

00:13:40buy

00:13:40insurance

00:13:41and you

00:13:43buy

00:13:43insurance

00:13:43that says

00:13:45the river

00:13:46has to be

00:13:47kept to a

00:13:47reasonable

00:13:48level of

00:13:48cleanliness

00:13:48doesn't have

00:13:49to be

00:13:49perfect

00:13:49whatever that

00:13:50means

00:13:50but a

00:13:50reasonable

00:13:50level

00:13:51of

00:13:51cleanliness

00:13:52like one

00:13:52one hiker

00:13:53peeing in

00:13:54the river

00:13:54isn't going

00:13:55to kill

00:13:55the whole

00:13:55thing

00:13:56but you

00:13:56know 500

00:13:57tons of

00:13:57arsenic

00:13:58will

00:13:58so you

00:14:00buy

00:14:00insurance

00:14:00and then

00:14:01you have

00:14:01a company

00:14:01and you

00:14:02pay them

00:14:02every month

00:14:03and people

00:14:03on the

00:14:04river pay

00:14:04that company

00:14:04every month

00:14:05to keep

00:14:06the river

00:14:06clean

00:14:07and if

00:14:08the river

00:14:08gets dirty

00:14:09there's a

00:14:10contract

00:14:10which says

00:14:11they have

00:14:11to give

00:14:11you five

00:14:12times your

00:14:12home value

00:14:13or whatever

00:14:14you'd make

00:14:14it something

00:14:14punitive so

00:14:15that they

00:14:15have every

00:14:16incentive

00:14:16to keep

00:14:17the river

00:14:17clean

00:14:17so what

00:14:18they do

00:14:19is they

00:14:20monitor

00:14:21the river

00:14:22they take

00:14:22samples from

00:14:23the river

00:14:23they make

00:14:24sure that

00:14:24the river

00:14:24is clean

00:14:25because they

00:14:25personally

00:14:26will lose

00:14:28money

00:14:28i mean

00:14:29if the

00:14:29government

00:14:30doesn't enforce

00:14:30pollution laws

00:14:32no individual

00:14:33politician or

00:14:33bureaucrat

00:14:34loses a

00:14:34penny

00:14:34so you

00:14:36where there's

00:14:36no incentive

00:14:37there's no

00:14:38quality

00:14:38it's what

00:14:39Nassim Taleb

00:14:40used to call

00:14:40or probably

00:14:41still does

00:14:41call

00:14:41skin in

00:14:42the game

00:14:43people who

00:14:44don't have

00:14:44skin in

00:14:45the game

00:14:45can never

00:14:46be counted

00:14:46to produce

00:14:47quality

00:14:48which is why

00:14:49you get

00:14:49better service

00:14:50at a restaurant

00:14:50than you do

00:14:51when getting

00:14:52your driver's

00:14:52license

00:14:53because the

00:14:53waiter

00:14:54waitress usually

00:14:55is a tip

00:14:56based life

00:14:57form

00:14:57I've done

00:14:58it and it

00:14:58makes a big

00:14:59difference in

00:14:59terms of

00:14:59quality

00:15:00so if

00:15:01somebody decides

00:15:02to open a

00:15:03factory up

00:15:03or wants to

00:15:04open a

00:15:04factory up

00:15:05up river

00:15:06then your

00:15:08pollution

00:15:09control company

00:15:10leaps into

00:15:11action because

00:15:11they don't want

00:15:12to have to pay

00:15:12everyone on the

00:15:13river five times

00:15:14the home value

00:15:14or whatever the

00:15:15punishment would be

00:15:15and they go in

00:15:17and they say

00:15:17you know we'd

00:15:18really rather you

00:15:18didn't put your

00:15:20factory in here

00:15:22we're going to

00:15:23buy the land to

00:15:24make sure that

00:15:24doesn't happen

00:15:25we're going to

00:15:25maybe build it

00:15:26or build a

00:15:27nice summer

00:15:28home and so

00:15:29on and if

00:15:31somebody does

00:15:31somehow sneak

00:15:32and build a

00:15:33whole bunch of

00:15:33bad stuff and

00:15:35pump it into

00:15:35the river then

00:15:36they find out

00:15:36who that is and

00:15:37that person then

00:15:38has to pay for

00:15:38the cleanup and

00:15:40if and it's

00:15:41kind of ironic

00:15:42right because what

00:15:43I've always been

00:15:43talking about this

00:15:44is sort of my

00:15:44very first article

00:15:45from 2005 it's

00:15:47this month 20

00:15:48years right I'm

00:15:49talking about how

00:15:50pollution control

00:15:51would work in a

00:15:52free society so

00:15:53you have companies

00:15:55that make money

00:15:55if the

00:15:57environment is

00:15:58kept clean and

00:15:59they lose money if

00:16:01the environment

00:16:01gets dirty now in

00:16:03a free society

00:16:03there's no such

00:16:04thing as a

00:16:04corporation a

00:16:05corporation is a

00:16:06legal fiction that

00:16:08allows people to

00:16:09extract money from a

00:16:10business and take

00:16:11it to their own

00:16:12personal accounts but

00:16:13it doesn't go the

00:16:14other way if a

00:16:15business does

00:16:15something really

00:16:16bad the corporate

00:16:18shield keeps the

00:16:19executives from being

00:16:20held liable it's

00:16:22sort of like if you

00:16:23have an invisible

00:16:24friend who goes to

00:16:25jail if you commit

00:16:26a crime you're

00:16:26likely to commit

00:16:27more crimes so in

00:16:29a free society it

00:16:29would be like it

00:16:30was before

00:16:31corporations were

00:16:31instituted whereas

00:16:32if you ran a

00:16:33bank and the bank

00:16:34ran out of money

00:16:35then you lost your

00:16:36home you know the

00:16:37sort of the image

00:16:38of the wild west

00:16:40guy with a barrel

00:16:41around his body

00:16:42because he's

00:16:43actually even out

00:16:43of clothes right so

00:16:44so they made pretty

00:16:45good efforts to keep

00:16:46banks solvent because

00:16:47if the bank went

00:16:48insolvent the bank

00:16:49executives would lose

00:16:50everything lose

00:16:52everything whereas

00:16:53now doesn't

00:16:54doesn't happen

00:16:55that way so so

00:16:56yeah you would have

00:16:57private incentives to

00:16:59keep things clean

00:17:00and let's say that

00:17:02there was some

00:17:02business that went

00:17:03and started polluting

00:17:04the river and they

00:17:05wouldn't listen to

00:17:05reason or whatever it

00:17:06is okay well then

00:17:08you have a very

00:17:08powerful weapon in a

00:17:11civilized society and

00:17:13the most powerful

00:17:13weapon in the

00:17:14civilized society is

00:17:15ostracism and by

00:17:16that I'm referring to

00:17:17in particular economic

00:17:19ostracism like if you

00:17:20think of the number

00:17:22of interactions you

00:17:25have to go through in

00:17:26any typical day in

00:17:28your society it's

00:17:29crazy how many there

00:17:31are I mean to get

00:17:33electricity to run the

00:17:34internet to get

00:17:36oil or gas or whatever

00:17:38you use to heat your

00:17:39house there or air

00:17:41conditioners to get on

00:17:43the road to drive down

00:17:44the road to go into a

00:17:46store to buy things

00:17:46like everything is an

00:17:48economic interaction and

00:17:49if people in your

00:17:50society don't want to

00:17:52in a free market

00:17:54private society if

00:17:55people in your society

00:17:56don't want to do

00:17:57business with you you

00:17:58can't live in that

00:17:59society I mean I guess

00:18:01you could stay on your

00:18:01land but if the

00:18:03electricity company

00:18:03doesn't want to

00:18:04deliver electricity to

00:18:05you and if you don't

00:18:06get any heating and

00:18:08you don't get any

00:18:09cooling and you don't

00:18:10get any water and you

00:18:11don't get any groceries

00:18:13you can't live in that

00:18:14society and so society

00:18:16has a very powerful tool

00:18:17called not interacting

00:18:20with people I remember

00:18:21this from high school I

00:18:23would ask girls out and

00:18:25they would choose to not

00:18:27interact with me they

00:18:29ostracized me actually I

00:18:30did okay in high school

00:18:31but you know it happened

00:18:32it happened I mean from

00:18:33time to time if it's not

00:18:34happening you're not aiming

00:18:35high enough so and then

00:18:37of course after spending

00:18:3820 actually after spending

00:18:40about 15 years advocating

00:18:41ostracism as the means of

00:18:44maintaining social control

00:18:45what happened that's

00:18:48right that's right you

00:18:50have guessed correctly I

00:18:51got the platform from

00:18:53everywhere see it was

00:18:54just a matter of

00:18:55ostracism so after

00:18:56promoting this as a

00:18:57method of social control

00:18:58well I suppose I got to

00:19:02be a test case I got to

00:19:04show the world just how

00:19:05powerful ostracism is when

00:19:07society or at least

00:19:08political elements within

00:19:09society which wouldn't be

00:19:11present in a free market

00:19:12society disapprove of what

00:19:14you do so there's lots of

00:19:15different ways to handle

00:19:16it the government won't

00:19:17solve your problems they

00:19:18won't solve your problem

00:19:19so sorry I appreciate your

00:19:21reply I have I want to go

00:19:22back to the original topic

00:19:24a little bit more and just

00:19:25a thought I don't know I

00:19:28don't have much to say on

00:19:29it but basically I wonder

00:19:30if our ancestors would have

00:19:33behaved differently in

00:19:34terms of the white man's

00:19:35burden if they had have

00:19:37known about genetics well

00:19:40yes I was actually just I

00:19:42I want to do a post

00:19:43probably tomorrow it's

00:19:44probably too late tonight

00:19:45and do a post about you

00:19:46know this is just endless

00:19:48Marxist blood labels

00:19:49usually about sorry blood

00:19:50libels not blood labels

00:19:52endless Marxist blood

00:19:53libels against whites

00:19:54because whites kind of

00:19:55naturally white Christians

00:19:56in particular are very

00:19:58resistant to communism and

00:19:59so there's all this Marxist

00:20:00blood libels and of course

00:20:01one of them is that the

00:20:02whites came to North

00:20:04America and they

00:20:05genocided the natives by

00:20:07giving them smallpox

00:20:08blankets and it's like bro

00:20:10there wasn't even a germ

00:20:11theory of disease until

00:20:12the late 19th century

00:20:14nobody knew what caused

00:20:16these things they didn't

00:20:17even know about germs

00:20:18exactly if we wanted to

00:20:19genocide them that we

00:20:20would have done it

00:20:21well there's one mention

00:20:23of people talking about

00:20:25giving smallpox blankets

00:20:26to natives and that is

00:20:29not enough that's not a

00:20:30strategy it was not written

00:20:31down it was not and of

00:20:32course I mean the natives

00:20:34gave two things back to the

00:20:35white man one which was

00:20:36voluntary and one which

00:20:37was less voluntary they

00:20:39gave back smoking and

00:20:40syphilis syphilis is a

00:20:41North American disease

00:20:43which were then was

00:20:43transferred back to

00:20:44probably through sexual

00:20:47I mean certainly through

00:20:47sexuality but yeah

00:20:48syphilis one of the worst

00:20:49illnesses known to man

00:20:50so and smoking right so

00:20:52yeah just this idea this is

00:20:54all these sort of crazy

00:20:55blood libels that go on

00:20:58just there to insult and

00:21:01then you see all this like

00:21:02what about your ancestors

00:21:03atrocities it's like bro all

00:21:05of human history was

00:21:05atrocities every single

00:21:07slice and dice and piece

00:21:08of it the Muslim slave

00:21:09trade was 20 times

00:21:10larger than the North

00:21:11Atlantic slave trade it's

00:21:13just that they tend to

00:21:14castrate they tended to

00:21:15castrate their slaves most

00:21:16of whom died so yeah it's

00:21:18it's all just a bunch of

00:21:19nonsense I'm so sorry I

00:21:21wandered away from your

00:21:22original question it was

00:21:23yeah it was just what do

00:21:25you think our answer how

00:21:26would our ancestors have

00:21:28behaved instead of

00:21:29enslaving and would they

00:21:31have done something

00:21:32differently if they knew

00:21:33that they did the

00:21:34population the sensible

00:21:36strategy yeah the sensible

00:21:37strategy in the world is

00:21:39to stay home and make

00:21:41your government as small

00:21:42as humanly possible I

00:21:43believe that the end

00:21:44result or goal of a

00:21:46moral situation is zero

00:21:48right because the

00:21:50initiation of the use of

00:21:51force is immoral and so

00:21:52yeah with the multi

00:21:53generation of project for

00:21:55humanity just as the end

00:21:56of slavery was a

00:21:57multi generation of

00:21:57project the multi

00:21:59generation of project for

00:22:00humanity is to keep

00:22:03producing the size and

00:22:03power of government and

00:22:04so that people can come

00:22:06up with voluntary i.e.

00:22:08quality solutions to

00:22:09social problems so yeah

00:22:12the idea that you can

00:22:13just race around the

00:22:14world and you can pass

00:22:17the laws that took

00:22:18thousands of years of

00:22:20trial and error to

00:22:21develop in your country

00:22:22and just impose them on

00:22:24other countries I mean the

00:22:25British system of law and

00:22:27the British society was

00:22:29heavily conditioned by

00:22:30close to half a

00:22:32millennia 400 or more

00:22:34years of ritualistically

00:22:36killing the 1% of the

00:22:38most violent and brutal

00:22:39members of the population

00:22:40so you go through that

00:22:41process you know because

00:22:43they would put them in

00:22:44jail or they hang them or

00:22:45guillotine them or draw

00:22:46and quarter them or you

00:22:47know whatever it is they'd

00:22:48kill them or reproductively

00:22:50disable the most violent

00:22:51and aggressive or send

00:22:53them to Australia and so

00:22:56after you go through that

00:22:57process for a couple of

00:22:58hundred years you have a

00:22:59particular kind of society

00:23:00and you can't just take

00:23:02the laws from that

00:23:03society and then just

00:23:03take them to some other

00:23:05continent where people

00:23:06haven't gone through that

00:23:07process and they haven't

00:23:08had that winter whittling

00:23:09of those with the least

00:23:11forethought and you can't

00:23:12just drop the law books

00:23:14on that country and have

00:23:15it be like your country

00:23:16but again they didn't know

00:23:17or understand this they

00:23:18were working on the

00:23:19Christian idea of the

00:23:20soul which is that

00:23:21everyone can be like

00:23:23everyone else because we

00:23:24all are inhabited by this

00:23:26godlike substrate of the

00:23:30soul and they didn't

00:23:32understand these things

00:23:33and you know a

00:23:35significant amount of

00:23:36counterproductive I mean

00:23:37it's hard to call it

00:23:38foolishness because they

00:23:39were acting according to

00:23:40the beliefs of their day

00:23:41and it took what Watson

00:23:42and Crick in the 1950s

00:23:44it took for them to get

00:23:44the double helix structure

00:23:45of DNA while playing in

00:23:48an inordinate amount of

00:23:49table tennis if I remember

00:23:50from the book but yeah

00:23:52they just didn't understand

00:23:52they didn't know and

00:23:54they were they were wrong

00:23:56you can't just you can't

00:23:58just go to some country and

00:24:00take your laws impose your

00:24:02laws on that country and

00:24:04then have it be like your

00:24:05country it just doesn't it

00:24:07doesn't work that way also

00:24:09and you know go ahead

00:24:10part of the problem is

00:24:11that they we spent

00:24:13generations developing

00:24:15technology and science and

00:24:16medicine and through that

00:24:18process with education

00:24:19birth rates dropped and

00:24:23our population stopped

00:24:24growing and then we sort of

00:24:26bombed these other

00:24:28countries with modern

00:24:30medicine and so they were

00:24:31able to increase their

00:24:32population size very quickly

00:24:33over the past hundred years

00:24:34and so that's a major

00:24:35problem in the world right

00:24:37now and so we've sort of

00:24:38gave them a gift not knowing

00:24:40where it would lead and I

00:24:43feel like we should take it

00:24:45back

00:24:45well I think you can't put the

00:24:48toothpaste back but I would

00:24:51say I would say for sure that

00:24:54all charity must be voluntary

00:24:57and so free speech would allow

00:25:00for the communication of

00:25:01effective ideas about human

00:25:03nature and biology genetics

00:25:05culture so you'd have free

00:25:06speech about it

00:25:07but all charity must be

00:25:11voluntary and must be based on

00:25:13a free speech access to the

00:25:16truth so yeah foreign aid and

00:25:17things like that

00:25:18from a state level I mean you

00:25:21know it's just taking money

00:25:23from the poor people in rich

00:25:24countries and giving it to the

00:25:25rich people in poor countries

00:25:26I think Ron Paul came up with

00:25:28that but yes it's just

00:25:29absolutely terrible it's money

00:25:31laundering as a whole and it

00:25:33is the round trip of the

00:25:35foreign dollar you know just

00:25:36America gives India a bunch of

00:25:38dollars and then because it's

00:25:39dollars they have to spend it on

00:25:40American businesses it's just

00:25:42another form of you know fat

00:25:43cash mortgage board corporate

00:25:45subsidies and so on so yeah it's

00:25:47all it's all terrible and if you

00:25:49want to help people then you can

00:25:51do it at a personal voluntary

00:25:52level with your own money but you

00:25:54don't get to enslave my kids for

00:25:56your own wackadoodle do goodery

00:25:58because you didn't have kids and

00:26:00you don't want to just live with

00:26:01cats so

00:26:01I appreciate your time yeah it has

00:26:03to be voluntary thanks man I

00:26:05appreciate it I appreciate that

00:26:06and if there's anyone else we can

00:26:09have a short short sharp show

00:26:11tonight but if anybody else has any

00:26:14questions or issues that they would

00:26:17like to bring up or chat about I'm

00:26:20obviously thrilled and happy to

00:26:24hear from y'all I've got a got a

00:26:26show coming out this week it's a

00:26:29really good show you know for me at

00:26:31least when those analogies and

00:26:33metaphors come together just

00:26:34perfectly oh it's glorious and I

00:26:37had somebody who was dealing with

00:26:39somebody you know obviously it's an

00:26:40amateur way of saying it but I viewed

00:26:42them as well I think that person

00:26:44described them as narcissistic and I

00:26:45was talking about how if you want to

00:26:47understand a narcissist think of how

00:26:50you interact with your NPC in a video

00:26:53game that you only think about your

00:26:55own needs and preferences you don't

00:26:56think about the other person's needs

00:26:57and preferences and in fact if you're

00:27:00the NPC in your video game were to do

00:27:03things that you don't want you just

00:27:04dump them and get another one and

00:27:05that's how the narcissist in general

00:27:07will deal with personal relationships

00:27:09and dating and so on so I hope that

00:27:13will be helpful when it when it when

00:27:17it comes along all right so let me see

00:27:20what else did I have to chitty chatty

00:27:22bing bing about you all the creator of

00:27:28Nutella has died on Valentine's Day at

00:27:32the age of 97 Nutella is tasty but

00:27:35Satan poop it really is not I think

00:27:38ideally healthy for you and it's funny

00:27:40because he's like a skinny guy who

00:27:41lived to 97 which means I can only

00:27:45assume that he did not eat much

00:27:47Nutella good though it is it is not

00:27:50particularly good for you if you see

00:27:52that breakdown of Nutella like how much

00:27:54oil and fat and all of that stuff is in

00:27:56it I also wanted to point out you know

00:27:59this general theory that the Marxist put

00:28:01out you know that Marxists are

00:28:03fantastic at creating hatred and

00:28:05division between groups I talk about

00:28:07this in my documentary in Hong Kong

00:28:08and this idea that England became

00:28:13wealthy by stealing from the third

00:28:14world and so on and no no actually

00:28:17England's wealth began to severely rise

00:28:20significantly rise and severely rise

00:28:22England's wealth began to rise in the

00:28:2415th century long before it broke its

00:28:26international boundaries and so on is

00:28:29important okay we don't have any callers

00:28:33right now I had I had some thoughts

00:28:35about a man who is both noble and

00:28:41flawed I mean not uncommon I have my

00:28:44flaws hopefully I have a smidge or two

00:28:46of nobility maybe not when I'm giggling

00:28:48like a helium-laced school girl but

00:28:51anyway poor poor Jordan Peterson Jordan

00:28:53Peterson's daughter asks for prayers

00:28:56because her father is is quite ill this

00:29:00is Dr. Jordan Peterson famous U of T

00:29:03professor of psychology who has

00:29:06reached a level of fame that is

00:29:08reserved for very few people in this

00:29:09life and which comes with an inordinate

00:29:12amount of stressors you know if if

00:29:14especially if you're skeptical of

00:29:15anything on the left they just pump

00:29:17hatred into the air until people go nuts

00:29:19on you I've experienced it myself

00:29:21though of course not to the degree that

00:29:22Jordan Peterson did so with all

00:29:24humility my my goal is speak maximum

00:29:27truth maximum truth maximum philosophy

00:29:29which is speak as much truth as you can

00:29:33until they're going to kill you and then

00:29:35pull back right that's that's that's

00:29:38the general goal and idea and of course

00:29:41Jordan Peterson has had some significant

00:29:43health issues I think a couple of years

00:29:45ago when his wife was ill he started

00:29:47taking benzodiazepines I think he got

00:29:49addicted and didn't he get airlifted out

00:29:51to Russia and put in a coma for a month

00:29:53the detox and like things were just wild

00:29:55and then he came back he came back and

00:30:00started working again he's had gum

00:30:02issues and various health issues and

00:30:05now the issue is I don't even know the

00:30:08exact terms but his daughter seems to

00:30:11think that it has something to do with

00:30:12mold exposure as a result of clearing

00:30:15out his father's basement after his

00:30:17father died and so I hope you know I

00:30:20wouldn't necessarily say that they're in

00:30:21a spiritual battle against existential

00:30:23demons but I would say that we

00:30:26certainly I didn't say we I I certainly

00:30:28wish the best for Jordan Peterson I hope

00:30:30that he gets well he is a powerful voice

00:30:33for skepticism and significant amounts of

00:30:38reason in the world and in a fingers

00:30:40crossed I hope that he gets better and I

00:30:43certainly wish the best for him and his

00:30:44family a flawed yes flawed I will get

00:30:48into perhaps another time but right now

00:30:50we have another caller

00:30:51Thomas and there was Tom Tom sitting on a

00:30:56bomb hello how you doing good how you

00:30:59doing okay so my question I was reading a

00:31:02ex post today or yesterday I don't

00:31:04remember from a Danish poster and he wrote

00:31:08something like let's move every Muslim

00:31:11immigrant from Denmark to Paraguay and

00:31:13let's pay them 60,000 euros and and then

00:31:17Paraguay can deal with them but he

00:31:20received a lot of hate so to say because

00:31:25people said that Paraguay was a Christian

00:31:27country they don't deserve it but my my

00:31:30deeper question would be does this person

00:31:33she he does not consider Paraguay to be

00:31:37part of the West do you consider Latin

00:31:39America as a general to be part of the

00:31:41West what's your take on on this that's

00:31:45a that's an interesting question that's

00:31:47interesting tell me a little bit more

00:31:49about Paraguay I mean what is its legal

00:31:51system relative to say British common

00:31:54law or I guess French French law

00:31:56Napoleonic law what is its general

00:32:00philosophy what is its approach to free

00:32:01speech and so on I mean a lot of

00:32:03Western countries don't even feel that

00:32:04Western anymore particularly England did

00:32:06they arrest like 12,000 people for

00:32:08social media posts last year so tell

00:32:11me a little bit more about Paraguay and

00:32:13its legal and free speech structure

00:32:15I cannot tell you a lot about Paraguay

00:32:18because I'm from Chile so I'm not I don't

00:32:20know the specifics of Paraguay but I can

00:32:22tell you about my country we're just still

00:32:24in Latin America I know that we follow

00:32:26the Roman law system inherited inherited

00:32:29from the Spaniards and I would say that

00:32:32at least my country is pretty Western in

00:32:35that regard but you also have countries

00:32:37countries like Bolivia or maybe I don't

00:32:39know Nicaragua which are more genetically

00:32:42also to the indigenous side or you have

00:32:44even countries like Uruguay which is

00:32:46genetically mostly European so it's a mix

00:32:49mix I would say in that sense now I know a

00:32:53little bit more about Chile I did a show

00:32:55on Chile many years ago and its brush with

00:33:00almost socialism its recovery into relative

00:33:04free market capitalism but I will admit that

00:33:06I mean I've kept up with El Salvador a

00:33:08little bit more but I've sort of lost a

00:33:10lot of what's been going on with Chile

00:33:14so well I would I would say that Chile is

00:33:17following some similar process that the

00:33:19West is solving so we received a lot of

00:33:22immigration our immigration came from

00:33:24mostly Venezuela but also Peru Haiti

00:33:28Colombia the Caribbean countries and now

00:33:33we also have a political process ongoing

00:33:35we have a left-wing government which we

00:33:39have presidential election a woman got

00:33:40in right a woman got in who was more

00:33:42socialist no no no it was I thought it

00:33:45was a young man I think it was the

00:33:47youngest president of the entire world so

00:33:49a millennial president very very woke in

00:33:52that sense and now he's going away and

00:33:56the possible president next president is a

00:33:59German descendant and possibly from the

00:34:04extreme right so to say so in that sense

00:34:07I would say that Chile is very is following

00:34:08the similar trend to the Western countries

00:34:11but what's your what's your take on it

00:34:14I don't even want to say hard right because

00:34:17I mean you never hear really about hard left

00:34:20or extreme left but they have a more a less

00:34:25globalist more nationalist woman I think is

00:34:28is ascending to power in Japan and it may

00:34:31save them from this the plan right to

00:34:34bury the Japan to bury Japan in in in the

00:34:39non-Japanese and so yeah if Chile I mean

00:34:43when was it 73 like Pinochet overthrew

00:34:46Allende who was a socialist which meant

00:34:50that he was going to end up destroying the

00:34:52economy and I assuming I assume doing a lot of

00:34:56pretty horrible and deadly things to those who

00:34:59weren't socialists as the socialists tend to do

00:35:01I think I could also tell you something more

00:35:03maybe people may not know this but I remember

00:35:07that when the big strikes came into the US I

00:35:10think it was around 2020 there were a lot of

00:35:13strikes everywhere so the strikes yeah sorry go

00:35:15ahead strikes yeah so very big strikes looting

00:35:18everywhere six months prior to that the same

00:35:21thing happened in Chile so we had the same strikes

00:35:24very very left-wing they tried to even to overthrow the government

00:35:28then we had got a whole change the constitution process and I think if that

00:35:35constitution were to change then Chile will have been destroyed because that

00:35:40constitution gave seven or even more different judicial systems for for the

00:35:47for the country so depending on your ethnic background you will be judged by different

00:35:53judges so basically that will destroy the country I would say

00:35:57I remember that I mean that's what yeah yeah the issue of the issue of judicial fairness in a

00:36:05multi-ethnic society is a big challenge I'm sure you're aware of the leader of Singapore who got his

00:36:12start as a lawyer and realized that ethnic juries don't tend to convict their own ethnic

00:36:20accused and this is why they went not to trial by jury but they went to trial by judge

00:36:26because juries you know the the juries of a particular ethnicity are much less likely to convict

00:36:33someone of their own ethnicity than someone of another ethnicity I've heard ratios as wide apart as

00:36:39if you have ethnicity x and the prisoner is ethnicity x I could do this word I feel it I feel it strongly

00:36:47uh then if it's the same ethnicity the conviction rate is 20 percent and if it's another ethnicity

00:36:53particularly disliked ethnicity then the conviction rate is like 80 percent or they can I've heard as

00:36:59as wide a gap as as those kinds of things and of course that isn't uh that isn't justice

00:37:04that isn't justice and every race yeah so if you're going to start judging people I'm sorry if

00:37:10you're going to formalize the judging of people rather than having it informal through the preferences

00:37:14of ethnic juries if you're going to formalize having different rules for different ethnicities

00:37:19and multiculturalism generally leads to multi-legalism which is different legal standards for different

00:37:24ethnicities and this sort of goal of universal morality is is nixed I'm so sorry I interrupted you go ahead

00:37:31now I was just asking is if if what you cited was for every race or because I also heard that maybe

00:37:38europeans are white uh they don't tend to have this unity as a group thing well I would say that

00:37:46I would say that there seems to be a lot of hostility to white in-group preference that is not the case for

00:37:53other in-group preferences and that is uh a little annoying to put it mildly because that's not a

00:38:02universalization of the principle it's sort of like if you play soccer and you have to pass to the

00:38:08opposing team but the other opposing team only has to pass to themselves well it's an unfair uh competition

00:38:14and so but there is of course this belief in the world that all white in-group preference leads to

00:38:21nazism and therefore you have to nip it all in the bud and that's not um I mean white whites working

00:38:28together uh actually worked to overthrow and defeat nazism so it's not really a very good thesis but it's

00:38:34uh compelling compellingly believable to a surprising number of people all right well I appreciate those

00:38:41comments and uh I would love to I would love to get to chile one day I have been as far south as

00:38:47Brazil um I think that's the further south I've gone at least in in that continent but it would be

00:38:54fascinating to go uh to chile and to try and sort of understand the threats of how chile managed to

00:38:59avoid the catastrophes of a lot of central and south american countries in their endless experimentation

00:39:06with socialism and actually you know the sort of famous meme with the helicopters and all of that

00:39:11be fascinating to find out how that came about it would be a good documentary uh to do but

00:39:16I have to sort of rebuild my my shattered platforms uh so so to speak because I I used to love I've done

00:39:24three documentaries three yeah three uh one on Poland one on Hong Kong and one on California which was a

00:39:32six-part series and love doing the documentaries you can actually can't catch me uh in my son of

00:39:38which is documentary called hoaxed uh hoaxed the movie you should check it out it's really good

00:39:43and uh yeah the bit at the end is great so I like doing the documentaries but they're very expensive

00:39:48and I don't uh have a a platform with which to distribute and I hope that you guys will check

00:39:58out if you go to a youtube just do a search for freedom and one the number one freedom and one if

00:40:03you could subscribe to me there I would really appreciate it but yeah I'd like to do more documentaries

00:40:07but right now it's just setting fire to a pile of dollar bills especially because I do the documentary

00:40:14but I don't have a big enough venue to get the documentaries out and find any particular way to

00:40:19monetize them and of course as an entrepreneur of now 30 years I feel I feel good and I also feel

00:40:28that I have to and and should be responsible to your donation dollars so I hope that you um will

00:40:34subscribe here on x and donate at freedomman.com slash donate I promise to be as responsible as I

00:40:38can and not throw money into big piles and set fire to it because I like to do documentaries but

00:40:44you know the world is changing the world is bouncing back from the edge of insanity you know everyone

00:40:51thinks that the pendulum just swings forever but usually it does sort of go back more towards the

00:40:55center and I think I think we're getting that kind of stuff now so who knows what could be possible

00:41:01I certainly do miss doing uh in public speaking all of that kind of stuff uh I I definitely miss all of

00:41:08that stuff and uh who knows it could it could happen it could happen all right uh yes we have

00:41:16a noodle caller if you want to unmute I'm all ears hi no one no one yes sir how's it going

00:41:29uh hi I want to follow up on the last question that uh he uh the the other guy said that if

00:41:38latin america is a part of the west right and as the your response to that is I gather is that

00:41:51you have to uh tick uh some boxes to say if you are part of

00:41:59the west are not uh between those would be common law or uh I don't I don't remember the

00:42:08other ones can you help me please yeah so I would put in sort of the western category

00:42:13the major innovations that the west developed politically were threefold uh number one the

00:42:22free market uh number two uh free speech number three uh limited government small smaller government

00:42:31more voluntary uh free market activity and and common law right so the the idea of a a trial by

00:42:37a jury of your peers according to objective rules with the general common law developed systems of

00:42:43discovery uh evidence presentation being able to interrogate accusers and and so on so yeah

00:42:49common law free markets and free speech to me would put people in general in the western

00:42:55tradition if that makes sense okay I I have an observation about it so uh before uh in my country

00:43:06before before 1825 sorry your country is which one uh bolivia bolivia sorry go ahead right right next to

00:43:14chile yeah um the before that uh date we were part of the spanish empire right and after that we

00:43:25uh quote unquote uh we gained independence and the ideas that were present in the moment the the people

00:43:37were writing the constitution I think or or I suspect uh are the ideas

00:43:44borrowed from the french revolution right and the ideas from the french revolution I think

00:43:51are contrary or I mean are on the opposite side uh from the ideas that you just said right

00:44:00yeah I would actually I'm sorry just to point that got a whole 12-hour series on the french revolution

00:44:06available to donors but very briefly I would say that the french tradition is an outlier in the

00:44:14western tradition in that it tends to be equality of opportunity is more of the western tradition now I

00:44:20grew up in England so for me the anglo-saxon is at the core of the western tradition but france is not

00:44:27france is not individualistic it is collectivist in general france is not pro free market it is pro

00:44:34opportunity of sorry it's pro equality of outcome not equality of opportunity

00:44:39france as you know and this is true of italy to some degree as well

00:44:43is is famously hard to fire anyone and uh this hyper regulation and they're not particularly

00:44:51friendly to the free market and of course in the french legal system which comes out of the

00:44:56napoleonic code you are guilty until proven innocent which is not at all part of the anglo-saxon

00:45:02common law tradition where you are innocent until proven guilty france was not a big fan

00:45:08of free speech and of course one of the two big revolutions that occurred at about the same

00:45:14time with truly opposite results is the french revolution and the american revolution the

00:45:19american revolution yeah was equality of opportunity small government free markets free speech and an

00:45:25armed citizenry the french revolution was collectivist totalitarian anti-clerical and

00:45:32fanatically murderous and produced an absolute catastrophe of uh a a disaster in uh in the west so and

00:45:43the other thing too is that the anglo-saxon tradition tends to be highly protective of children and

00:45:49france to some degree because of the uh major thinkers in terms of france and childhood

00:45:57yeah we're pretty pretty terrible uh that way and uh rousseau of course uh famously uh dumped all of

00:46:05his children in french orphanages which were just brutal and they almost certainly died and he just

00:46:10ignored them and so uh the protection of children is really not part of certainly french intellectual

00:46:16life the french intellectuals are famously pedophile adjacent is probably the nicest way to put it

00:46:21but they all sign these declarations saying oh yes you should lower the age of consent and

00:46:26children can consent and you know they've been their big big into biggest intellectual in france's

00:46:30history at least modern history uh it's michelle foucault who was a a violent horrifying drug using

00:46:40sadomasochist uh guy uh who just did the most appalling things in sex dungeons all over the world and

00:46:46there's horrible rumors about what he did in tunisia with underage kids in grave yards and so on so

00:46:53yeah there's not it's not out of course you could say and i understand it that in the british tradition

00:46:58there is a lot of uh rum sodomy in the lash and boarding schools uh with the child sexual assault and

00:47:07and the jimmy saville and you know all of the stuff that happens in the house of lords in particular

00:47:13a lot of which was covered up by margaret thatcher by the way but you could also say but it's not part of

00:47:18the general intellectual tradition it is sort of closet yeah it's it's frowned upon it's not yeah

00:47:25it's not frowned upon it's not elevated in right like jimmy saville had to hide uh the kind of stuff

00:47:31that uh french intellectuals seem to praise and that's a it's a sort of a different matter but

00:47:35so yeah francis francis to me is very much an outlier in uh in the west uh for a variety of reasons and

00:47:43uh so i would certainly say there are there are countries not in europe that are closer to what

00:47:48i would consider the western tradition than france okay so latin america would be a 50 50 in a rough

00:47:56estimate because i would put chile when it had its uh height of the free market as much closer to the

00:48:03west than france would be okay okay gotcha gotcha but uh in the order of traditions uh between the french

00:48:11uh the french influence and the spanish influence uh is particularly um the modern era

00:48:19french are french influences uh the biggest so therefore uh latin america would not be

00:48:27uh a great part of the west or something like that right no i i think that i mean spain is it's a very

00:48:38interesting case because of course spanish the spanish had an empire and the spanish was a world

00:48:44power to which you generally get only out of the free market but spain got completely eviscerated by

00:48:49all of the extra gold from the new world to the point as i mentioned in the recent show that they

00:48:55had a 400 year recession like all the smart people left uh who who had you know their intellectual and

00:49:01mobile skills to go and so spain was really at the height of uh the western tradition in many ways

00:49:08and then went empire and and then through empire hyperinflated the currency through the you know

00:49:16tons of gold that it got from the new world and then sank into sort of second world status and

00:49:23was moribund for again like 400 years it's wild the effect that it has that the incredibly

00:49:30long-lasting effect of your smartest people leaving the country is is really brutal and of course this

00:49:35is some of the concern that's going on with india that if all the smart people leave india

00:49:39uh what happens to india uh intelligent people are by far the most important resources that any country

00:49:46has so yeah uh my last question um if you uh wait the the the thinking or the thought of french

00:49:59uh intellectuals uh intellectuals and the thinkers that were used on the uh found the founding of

00:50:07america can you say that uh those thinkers were more um inclined to democracy in the modern sense

00:50:17or were the french thinkers more democratic in that sense that uh equality of outcomes and

00:50:26uh my thesis is that democracy uh tends to help the thought of those thinkers of the the french

00:50:36thinkers not the thinkers that found their found uh america right right right i mean of course this

00:50:44was the idea of we get this debate in america all the time it's not really a debate so we say well

00:50:50we're a democracy it's like no no no it's a republic and a republic is supposed to be a democracy

00:50:54that is limited by a constitution and a rights right uh whereas it's a sort of raw democracy is just

00:51:02majority gets to do whatever the hell they want with almost no interference from anything else so

00:51:07the unfortunate thing with a democracy is you can think of a building an apartment building with 50

00:51:18people and a landlord and the landlord wants to raise rents and the tenants want the rents to be lower

00:51:29so how do you deal with this well in a free market society the landlord can raise or lower his rents

00:51:36within the contractual obligations he has or the lease that he has with his tenants because he owns the

00:51:41building however in a democracy the landlord being outvoted 50 to 1 what do the tenants want well they

00:51:53don't want to raise any rent any rents in fact they want the rents to be as low as humanly possible

00:51:57so in a democracy the tenants of the apartment building will simply vote to take away the building

00:52:04and give it to themselves and then vote for the rents to be five dollars a month right because that's

00:52:09that's a that's a that's a that's a democracy and you know that that is in the very short run that's

00:52:16very beneficial to the tenants right because they get their rents lowered from a thousand dollars a

00:52:22month or two thousand dollars a month to five dollars a month and they they dance and they skip down the

00:52:27hallways until right until until things stop working yeah until their kids want to move out and maybe have

00:52:38apartments of their own which they don't have because nobody is investing in apartments i mean in

00:52:44toronto where i grew up from the age of 11 onwards people simply stopped building apartment buildings

00:52:50because there was this ferocious rent control and so what did people do well they built condos instead

00:52:55because condos are not subject to rent control for obvious reasons and they also converted apartments to

00:53:02condos and it's the same thing in new york where you have these key apartments called key

00:53:07apartments which is the rent control is there it's been there for 30 years or 40 years so these

00:53:14apartments are ridiculously cheap like overlooking central park for like 700 800 bucks a month

00:53:18and you're supposed to be able to change the rent when somebody dies but they just exchange keys

00:53:24without informing the landlord that anyone has died if somebody dies or moves out or whatever

00:53:28and so you get this whole scam it's this game of cat and mouse and and so you want to look at

00:53:35democracy is always going to be the case that those who want will always outvote those who create

00:53:43because those who create are very rare those who build apartment buildings those who make stadiums

00:53:51those who make movies and songs you know when napster was at its height you know people were just

00:53:55downloading songs all over the place and how many people were downloading songs as opposed to how many

00:54:01people were writing and recording songs yeah and it's the same thing with movies you know when i was

00:54:06in i was doing a lot of business in china in the year 2000 and everywhere i would go it's like oh you

00:54:12know we've got these uh movies for you cheap free movies copy paste cds dvds you name it right

00:54:18and those guys were a dime a dozen but people who can write act indirect create produce and distribute

00:54:24movies well i guess they'd be distributors in a way but people who can write and create

00:54:29good stories are very rare but people who can copy paste a dvd are very common and so the people

00:54:35who want vastly outnumber the people who create people who want free apartments vastly outnumber

00:54:41those who can build and create and fund quality apartments and so the people who want always outnumber

00:54:49the people who create and so the poor take away they vote to take away the wealth and property of the

00:54:55rich and then everybody ends up uh poor like there there's this debate in england about this is in

00:55:02the case of a lot of western countries this is an inheritance tax inheritance unfair for some kids

00:55:06to get all this money and other kids don't it's like how do you know i mean i grew up poor it gave me

00:55:11a huge amount of ambition some of the kids that i knew who grew up rich didn't have much ambition

00:55:15so it all tends to correct over time there's not some magic benefit to starting off life with more money

00:55:20uh and there's lots of costs you know the poor little rich girl and a friend i had uh shortly

00:55:26before i met my wife he actually helped introduce me to my wife uh he would tell me that you know he

00:55:31grew up very wealthy but incredibly lonely because both his parents worked and he was very sad and

00:55:36yeah it's not it's not i mean the issues with my childhood really didn't have anything to do with

00:55:41not having money so but but of course if if you say well you can't leave your money to your kids

00:55:49anymore well then oh people would just stop creating businesses and they'll stop working hard they'll

00:55:54stop working their 80 hours a week and there are way more people who want jobs than people who can

00:56:00create jobs i mean i've been on both sides i've been a job applicant and i've also over the course of

00:56:05my business career i mean i wasn't obviously any kind of big shakes but i did create about 100 jobs

00:56:11over the course of my business career and you know it's it's pretty good but it's not that common

00:56:18none of my friends were entrepreneurs creating jobs actually i have one friend who's done it uh one

00:56:23friend in like 40 years who's created a business and hired a bunch of people and i've had a lot of

00:56:28friends sorry that sounds kind of sinister i had a lot of friends they're all sleeping with the fishes but

00:56:33so yeah the people who want jobs are very common the people who can create jobs are very rare and if you

00:56:38just simply take away the reward which is you know one of the reasons why people work hard is to create

00:56:44a legacy that they can give to their children and if you take away their ability to give that legacy

00:56:50to their children they'll just work less hard i mean you don't have you don't have oh look at all

00:56:55these people they're leaving they're leaving 10 billion dollars a year to their children or whatever

00:56:59it is and then you say well we get that 10 billion dollars it's like no you won't because the moment you

00:57:03make it impossible to give your wealth to your children people would just stop working to collect that much

00:57:08wealth or they'll just spend it or they'll find some legal loophole or they'll leave the country

00:57:13or like you just you won't get that money it's crazy i don't know why people don't understand this

00:57:17it's just absolute retarded fools out there in the world who think that well we can just we can just

00:57:24take stuff from people there's all this money there and it's a mirage it's killing the goose that

00:57:29lays the golden egg ripping it open you don't get any golden eggs anymore it's just a mirage you run at

00:57:33this thing and you don't get a a lovely lake you can swim in you just get a desert because it all

00:57:38vanishes you you charge at it you know it's like saying well this guy doesn't want to be my friend

00:57:43but if i beat him up he'll want to be my friend it's like no he'll just want to stay as far away

00:57:47from you as possible so the more you start using force against people the more they'll just try to

00:57:52avoid it or stay away and anyway sorry i know this is a long a long topic but if you had any any final

00:57:57thoughts i'd love to hear yeah thank you um so you would say uh on a philosophical level

00:58:04that the modern democracy has more to do with uh french thought than the western thought as you

00:58:11describe it yeah so i mean to be a politician means you have to flatter the masses and flatter them

00:58:17flattering the masses is to be a slave to the lowest common denominator right you you have to flatter

00:58:25women and say that they're wonderful and nothing is their fault and you have to insult and provoke

00:58:32sentiment against the rich you have to provoke hostility towards the rich and you have to you

00:58:40know uh praise designated groups and you're like it's just it's just horrible and you can't go on any

00:58:46principle and you can't ask for any sacrifice and you just have to lie to everyone it's a it's a vile

00:58:52hideous existence and you just can't get any truth you can't get any truth out in the political

00:58:59arena so anyway i appreciate that we're going to take one more quick call thank you for a great

00:59:04question and a gripper uh either going to get stomach cramps or some nice italian wine all right

00:59:15a gripper if you wanted to tell me what's on your mind i'd love to hear your thoughts

00:59:21all right he's here he's not here he is shouldn't just call her he requests to talk but he will not

00:59:28talk ah you know what it could be asl he could be miming or he might be trying to beam his thoughts

00:59:34into mind oh well that's all right that's all right okay well i'll stop here because i just had a short

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01:00:05pleasure as always to chat with you again our best wishes hope you'll join me in putting out our best

01:00:12wishes into the universe for dr jordan peterson hope he gets back in the saddle stefan yes uh

01:00:21you were such a legend in 2015 to 2017 i used to watch you in the living room on youtube when youtube

01:00:26was still uncensored i just what of what thank you for what you were doing back then and uh

01:00:32thank you uh thank you i appreciate that thank you that was a wild time you know that that time

01:00:38i would say 2005 when i started i was like the third user on youtube so like that time 2005

01:00:45to 2015 i mean the suppression started kind of after that but 2005 to 2015 those 10 glorious years

01:00:53to have been on the fiery forefront of free speech in that era was a glorious liberty i hope will come

01:01:02again i hope will come again but that means that we need more white males in the conversation because

01:01:08i've done a whole presentation on free speech and demographics and generally only white males tend

01:01:14to be free speech absolutists not obviously exclusively but generally but that time before the elites

01:01:21figured out the power of social media when we could speak truth to power get facts out there and have

01:01:28millions of followers have a significant impact in effect i will go to my grave with a smile on my face

01:01:34having been at the forefront of free speech in the most glorious time of human liberty in the spoken

01:01:39written or mimed out word that has ever existed and i will forever look back upon that time with

01:01:48great gratitude that to talk about seize the day right carpe diem talk about seizing the day

01:01:54i knew it wasn't going to last i poured everything i had into communicating as much philosophy as humanly

01:02:00possible before the gate came down and boy did it come down but that time before oh it was glorious

01:02:11glorious i tell you it was absolutely glorious to stand atop the world and beam the healing and

01:02:21pacifying thoughts of recent evidence in a way that philosophy has never been able to achieve before

01:02:26oh to be young to be vocal to be mildly cautious but largely unafraid oh it was a glorious time

01:02:36and i hope it will come again but even if it comes again that first time will never come again in the

01:02:42same way you can't have sex again for the very first time so i was it was a wonderful time and i'm

01:02:48glad that you appreciated it and i'm certainly glad i did everything what i did and i'm glad that what i've

01:02:52done to navigate things ever since once more big shout out and thanks to our good friend well not

01:02:57my good friend i don't know the guy but our good friend the good friend of free speech elon musk for

01:03:01opening up this platform and inviting me back in all right love you guys i will talk to you wednesday

01:03:07if not before and thanks you for your time care and attention tonight bye

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