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في دردشة اليوم نتحدث عن مؤتمر القاهرة عام 1921 كان حدثًا محوريًا، حيث ترأس ونستون تشرشل هذا الاجتماع السري الذي دام عشرة أيام بهدف إعادة تشكيل الشرق الأوسط بعد الحرب العالمية الأولى. جاء المؤتمر لمعالجة الوعود البريطانية المتناقضة للعرب والفرنسيين واليهود، والضائقة الاقتصادية الناتجة عن التكاليف العسكرية الباهظة. أسفرت القرارات عن إنشاء دول جديدة مثل العراق والأردن تحت حكم ملوك هاشميين، وتحديد مصير فلسطين بتقسيمها لتطبيق وعد بلفور، وتأكيد مناطق النفوذ الفرنسية. ومع ذلك، تركت هذه الترتيبات إرثًا معقدًا من الصراعات المستمرة، لا سيما فيما يتعلق بالقضية الفلسطينية وحقوق الأكراد، مما يؤكد أن قرارات تلك الأيام العشرة لا تزال تؤثر على جغرافيا المنطقة وسياساتها حتى يومنا هذا. اسمع الدردشة للنهاية ولا تنسى التأكيد على اشتراكك بقناة #وقال_الراوي وتفعيل التنبيهات 🔔 ليصلك الجديد.

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00:00Today we will delve into a very important part of the history of our region.
00:04Cairo Conference of 1921
00:07This conference was a turning point, honestly.
00:10The sources we have show us how Winston Churchill
00:14Who was the Minister of Colonies at the time?
00:16He came here to Cairo, and with him, as you say, is a team of British experts.
00:21Exactly
00:22They tried in only ten days
00:24I imagine ten days drawing a completely new map of the Middle East.
00:29The main goal was to save the employee.
00:31Britain was in big trouble after World War I.
00:34What exactly is the problem?
00:36The situation was very bad
00:39Britain was and made promises that were completely opposite to each other
00:42Like what?
00:43They promised the Arabs a large Arab state in exchange for their help against the Ottomans.
00:48This is the well-known correspondence between Hussein McMahon and
00:51Okay
00:51At the same time, they were secretly in agreement with France in the Sykes-Picot Agreement to divide the region between them.
00:56Eggs collapsing?
00:57And he also promised the Zionists to immediately suppress the Jewish people in Palestine.
01:02So what's the contradiction?
01:04All of this together
01:04Davy on this, the terrible military expenses
01:07Especially in Iraq
01:08It was costing them £30 million a year.
01:12This is in addition to the twentieth revolution that took place there.
01:14A huge amount at the time, for sure.
01:16very
01:17This is in addition to the economic crisis in London itself.
01:19And the tensions were increasing
01:21France expelled King Faisal from Syria
01:24And Palestine the situation was boiling
01:26Understood
01:27It had to be a quick move.
01:29Only ten days to decide the fate of an entire region
01:32This is a bit crazy
01:33Where did they meet?
01:35At the Supreme Hotel, of course, here in Cairo.
01:38Churchill brought with him about 41 British officials and experts.
01:4241?
01:42Yes
01:43To the point that they were sometimes rude to them and said:
01:46The 40 thieves
01:47My name is Gharib
01:49There were very well known names among them.
01:50T.E. Lawrence, who is Lawrence of Arabia
01:53Gertrude Bell, Iraq expert
01:55Sir Percy Cox, Governor of Iraq
01:58Sir Herbert Somall, High Commissioner in Palestine
02:00People are wondering
02:02Of course
02:02So what was the stated goal of this conference?
02:06The goal was clear and direct.
02:07We must unify our policy
02:09We reduce costs, preserve Britain's interests and win.
02:13The central idea was
02:14So what is it?
02:15This is the honorable solution
02:16It seems like he was their lifeline.
02:19It was honestly a very smart solution from their point of view.
02:22The idea was simply that they would bring the sons of Sharif Hussein bin Ali.
02:26Who was their ally in the war against the Ottomans
02:29Ah, Sharif Mecca
02:30yeah
02:30And they appoint them as rulers over new kingdoms and emirates that operate.
02:34But of course under the British mandate
02:36The mandate is like a commandment
02:38Something like this is a system they made after the World War
02:41To manage the areas that were under the Ottoman Empire
02:45The important thing is that Ibn Sharif Faisal remained king of the open
02:48Okay
02:48His brother Abdullah remained the prince of East Jordan.
02:51This is an area, by the way, that was separated specifically for him.
02:53They did several things at once.
02:56They look good in front of Sherif Hussein
02:58They kept their promise.
03:00Even partially means
03:01somewhat
03:01They ensured that the new rulers would remain loyal to them.
03:05Most importantly, they reduced his military expenditures.
03:08Exactly like this
03:10Dark primary target
03:11Reducing expenses
03:12Faisal's installation in Iraq, for example
03:15They made a formal referendum like this.
03:16Sir Percy Cox, you fixed it, right?
03:18The result was 96% in Faisal's favor.
03:22It's fixed
03:23Of course
03:23As for the remaining obligations
03:26It means the Psycho-Specco agreement.
03:28The conference implicitly confirmed it.
03:29That means it's done
03:30Syria and Lebanon
03:32They preferred to remain under the French mandate.
03:33Okay
03:33And in the Arabian Peninsula itself
03:35They tried to strike a balance at first.
03:37Between Sharif Hussein in the Hijaz
03:39Ibn Saud
03:40Whose power was increasing in Najd
03:41But in the end it means
03:43When Ibn Saud's power increased a lot
03:45They abandoned Sharif Hussein
03:46It is the interests that control in the end.
03:48But certainly not all problems
03:50It was solved so easily, right?
03:52Sources say there were very thorny issues.
03:54naturally
03:55There are two particularly large files.
03:57The conference is either
03:58Their deadline
03:59Either with the ashes alone
04:00This is what planted problems for the future.
04:03We are still living in it
04:04Like what?
04:05First Palestine
04:06East Jordan is finished
04:07It remained the emirate of Abdullah
04:08Okay
04:09But west of the river
04:10The main part of Palestine
04:12Preference under the direct British mandate
04:14for him?
04:15To implement the Balfour Declaration
04:16And they work to establish a national homeland for the Jews
04:18Oh, that's the big problem.
04:20Terschel himself
04:21The strange thing is that he was optimistic.
04:23He thought that Arabs and Jews
04:25They can live together in peace
04:27But of course
04:28Actually they lied very quickly
04:30The conference is almost over
04:32And a little bit
04:33Violence and major problems began.
04:36In the plague of the same year 1921
04:38Grid is really getting worse
04:40In light of all these complexities
04:41And the second issue that was thorny
04:44Kurds
04:45The fate of the Kurds
04:46There were very strong Kurdish uprisings at that time.
04:49They are making their own independent state.
04:52Especially in northern Iraq
04:53oil-rich Mosul region
04:55This is a historical demand for them.
04:57naturally
04:58And Churchill himself, by the way.
04:59I start to sympathize with this idea.
05:01But who strongly opposed it?
05:04Percy Cox and George Bell
05:06for him?
05:06Their argument was that the new Iraq
05:08It is not possible without the resources of this region
05:10Especially petroleum
05:12It means the economic interest of the new Iraq
05:15More important than the Kurds' ambitions
05:17It means satisfying interests
05:18What was the final decision?
05:20Postponement of the matter
05:21And finally, in 1925
05:23Mosul province was officially annexed to Iraq.
05:26Thus, the opportunity for the establishment of a Kurdish state narrowed.
05:30And decades of Kurdish conflicts and demands began.
05:33Churchill himself was afraid of it and expected it
05:36It is clear that the main objective was to put the British house in order at the lowest possible cost.
05:41So how did they actually manage to reduce all these costs in Iraq?
05:45From 30 million to much less
05:48A smart strategy on their part too.
05:50indirect mandate
05:52It means rule by local rulers loyal to them.
05:55Most importantly, there is a very heavy reliance on the British Royal Air Force.
06:01Planes means
06:02yeah
06:02The idea was that aircraft could suppress any disease or uprising quickly and at a much lower cost than burning large ground forces.
06:10Did I succeed?
06:11I was very successful in reducing spending.
06:13As you said, expenses decreased from more than 30 million pounds to less than 5 million in just two years.
06:19Huge difference
06:20Here we can remember the famous incident of Churchill falling from a camel near the pyramids before the conference.
06:27The princesses then commented and said, “How can great men fall?”
06:33It was as if it was a prophecy that the empire itself would fall after that.
06:37The impact of the decisions of this conference may still be felt today.
06:41Of course
06:42His shit is so complex and complicated.
06:45I mean, on the one hand, he actually established the countries on the list up to now, with its limits.
06:49Jordanian and Iraqi costume
06:51And the idea of indirect rule was approved.
06:53Okay
06:54But on the other hand, and this is more important, it is possible
06:57He is the one who sowed the seeds of major regional conflicts.
06:59We are still suffering from it
07:01Palestinian issues, of course
07:03And the Kurdish issues whose people's demands have been lost
07:05Even the instability in countries like Iraq
07:08Why this instability?
07:09Because many of the people of this country felt that the rulers, the borders, and all these arrangements...
07:14It was imposed on them from outside
07:15From the colonial powers
07:17It is not a source of their own will
07:18I mean, they were very practical decisions from Britain's point of view at the time, but...
07:23There was no vision for the distant future?
07:25Exactly
07:26It was a mixture of colonial pragmatism
07:28At the same time, historical shortsightedness is very clear.
07:31Well, this brings us to an important question.
07:34I wonder what our area would look like today.
07:38If the decisions that were taken in Cairo more than a century ago were this
07:42If only she had looked a little further than the immediate interests of the British Empire.
07:46A difficult question, of course.
07:48I mean, if they had really taken into consideration the desires of the people living on this earth more...
07:53Could we have avoided the conflicts that have torn us apart for generations and destroyed our countries?
07:57If there was a different approach to the Palestinian issue, for example?
08:00Or if a Kurdish state had been established?
08:02Who knows? Maybe yes, maybe not.
08:04But what is certain is that these decisions had a very deep and lasting impact.
08:09The question will remain open
08:11I think his headache will continue to haunt us a lot.
08:14On the impact of Egyptian decisions taken quickly and from a religious perspective from a past century
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