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00:00It's been three years, and we're still nowhere closer to getting this done, and I want my life to move forward.
00:10Barry and I are not divorced yet. It's been over three years. It's really, really hard.
00:17The bright side of Olivia Leap in my life is that I have a full and healthy relationship with my family now.
00:24Unfortunately, me and Olivia are not divorced. The paperwork did not go through. It's frustrating.
00:31At this point, she won't respond to my attorney or my texts.
00:36You may kiss the bride.
00:39Let's go!
00:42After the wedding last night, Micah and Isaac got into a fight.
00:46He hit me first. I guess he kind of started it.
00:50Everything that was emotional that fueled the fight from that point on was you.
00:54You said that Tegan was on OnlyFans.
00:57Yeah.
00:57Did you say that?
00:58Yeah.
00:58You also called Kay on a slut.
01:00You called Kay on a slut.
01:01No, I did not call her a slut. I called her a liar.
01:03I can't believe they're blaming me, but it is so up their alley.
01:05I just didn't think this far of a stretch could happen, but it did.
01:11When you come in here and start telling us my family's a problem and don't even know Olivia...
01:15She's a good woman to be like. I like her.
01:17That concludes it here, Micah. Your woman wants to be like Olivia. Do you want that?
01:24Are you ready to go on our honeymoon?
01:36I am ready. Let's go.
01:39You look ready. I mean, come on.
01:42This outfit.
01:43We're heading to Europe.
01:44Oh my goodness.
01:45We're going to be in Paris for three days, Germany for two and a half weeks.
01:49And then we'll see. We haven't booked our return flights yet. So we'll see.
01:56I'm with my wifey. My wife. I'm going to Europe with my wife.
02:02On the honeymoon.
02:05The wedding was definitely very peaceful.
02:08It was perfect in every way. Everything and more.
02:11I think just having our people there really just completed it.
02:15We're married now. We can kiss.
02:20Among other things.
02:23How did the wedding night go? And did ya?
02:28And did ya?
02:31I mean, obviously, the wedding night is just between Zach and I.
02:35But I will say it was, um, pure and beautiful.
02:44It's such an intimate experience that there's soul ties that happen.
02:48Like actual chemical connection when you have sex with your surroundings.
02:53And so, that's, that, that...
02:57Say that again? Have sex with your surroundings?
02:59No, like, like...
03:00Chemical connections to...
03:02Chemical connections.
03:02Did I say that? That was weird.
03:03Yeah. That was, that was a little weird.
03:07I don't even remember what the question was.
03:10I think, like, overall, what made the day so perfect was just this...
03:16I mean, everyone was there for us.
03:18Yeah.
03:18And, like, I, I just don't know how to describe it.
03:22It was just, like, everyone was so overjoyed to see us and everyone was encouraging.
03:28It was just such a great day.
03:30And, like, I didn't feel like there was any drama.
03:34That concludes it here, Micah.
03:36Your woman wants to be like Olivia.
03:37Do you want that?
03:38I don't.
03:40I know I'm at a crossroads and it's either we spill everything out on the table and work through it somehow.
03:47Or we spill everything out on the table and walk away from it.
03:51If you don't want to change and accept my family and actually work on improving them...
03:55So I need to change?
03:56Yes, you absolutely do.
03:57You do have to change.
03:58Do you think I can keep living like this?
04:00I have to change my beliefs and ethics.
04:03No, you just don't have to disrespect...
04:05Oh, if you're going to continue trying to find dirt on family members that doesn't exist, yet sme...
04:09I don't know where you got that mud, but smearing it over everything?
04:12There's certain things that I might be wrong about.
04:16Yes, I'm a human.
04:18You're not apologizing.
04:19I don't...
04:20Why are you not finding Tegan's OnlyFan, which you have lied about over the years?
04:22It might just be clickbait articles, but I don't...
04:25Hey!
04:26How can you find a clickbait article and accuse her of having it when it's just clickbait?
04:30Yes, because we're on our way to therapy for him cheating, and he cheats, and I was worried
04:35that he would cheat on me with you, because he had a weird...
04:37Get the hell out of here.
04:39Why would Micah cheat on you with me?
04:40How disrespectful to say that he would cheat on my girlfriend.
04:45I definitely feel for Veronica in this moment.
04:47I can't imagine being in a room where, you know, you're feeling so attacked.
04:52I do think and know everything she said was a lie in one form or another, and I don't
04:59want to excuse that behavior, but I do give her grace and feel for her.
05:03In the room, you say it might be clickbait.
05:06It might.
05:07It might be clickbait that a thousand things.
05:10There's mites to everything.
05:12Everything in this world, nothing is certain except life and death and taxes.
05:16Look at these two.
05:17Look at these two beautiful women.
05:18You have problems with them.
05:20That's not their fault.
05:21I don't really have problems with Caitlin.
05:23Is it possible that you were wrong about Tegan?
05:26It's possible I was wrong.
05:27It's also possible I was wrong about Micah.
05:29It's also possible I'm wrong about being a blonde.
05:32It's also possible I'm wrong that I'm not the mayor.
05:34Yeah, anything's possible.
05:38Veronica, you never really apologized to me.
05:40About what?
05:41Much less anyone else.
05:42About what?
05:44Exactly.
05:45An apology I would love to get from Veronica is just the name-calling, the belittling.
05:50It'd be awesome to know she didn't mean that.
05:53The fight was why we were here, but that was the cause, that was the anger that I was feeling
05:58because of you.
06:00Am I the reason to blame for your nose?
06:00All the anger and everything, I would not have hit my own brother unless I had something
06:04like that built up inside.
06:05Am I the reason to blame for your nose?
06:05The reason this actually happened, the punch that-
06:08Are you going to blame me for your nose right now?
06:11Yes.
06:11Yes, we all are.
06:14What is going on?
06:15Like, what is my life right now?
06:17Like, how am I here?
06:18Veronica, you have manipulated everyone in this family, and then there's high feelings because
06:24of some of this stuff, and it ends up in a punch fight, and that's too bad, and that
06:28shouldn't have happened.
06:29But can you not see that you're at the root of all of that?
06:33I mean, it could be that, or it could be the family dynamics.
06:36I don't think even not being there, causing a physical altercation, everyone else in the
06:41family gets along.
06:42You're the common denominator.
06:46All of this would have a different outcome if she responded differently, but that wasn't
06:51her position at all.
06:53The more evidence we gave for what actually happened, the more she dug her heels in.
06:59Why did you come here?
07:00To support my gun, Lydia.
07:01Okay, well, you have done none of that.
07:03The cows didn't need your damn support.
07:05They're fat enough as they are.
07:06That's all you did is hang out there in the mud feeding cows, because you burned every
07:10relationship with everyone here.
07:11I'm getting attacked.
07:12Right the drama.
07:13Yeah, rightfully so.
07:14Veronica, the reason you're getting attacked is because you have attacked every one of us.
07:18Every single person here.
07:19Amber, Kaylin, Isaac, my mom, Ethan, Tegan.
07:22I have yelled at me.
07:23Even people that are not here.
07:27Either I strictly choose her over my family and continue down a very difficult road, or I just
07:34cut ties.
07:34Veronica's not going to change.
07:37This is going nowhere.
07:38Right.
07:38She's going to be right.
07:39I think we need to leave.
07:43Go back to Boca.
07:47And we are done.
07:49I'm like, I'll come down and help you pack.
07:51It kind of feels like Veronica just kept, you know, pouring lighter fluid on a whole bunch
08:00of different stuff and tempting me to light it.
08:02The truth always comes out.
08:04And nothing stays secrets for forever.
08:07I was shooting a wedding this weekend in Georgia, and Ethan wanted to talk.
08:15And so we are going to meet at a hotel in Thomasville.
08:18I feel a little anxious.
08:23Our last conversations did not go well.
08:25I think we need to go back to Boca.
08:37And we are done.
08:38Like, I'll come down and help you pack.
08:40When I tell Veronica that it's over, and I think we both know that it's not going to
08:46work out, she doesn't really say much.
08:50Do you think Veronica wanted you to break up with her?
08:54No, I don't know.
08:55That's a good possibility.
08:56You put gasoline on a wooden bridge, and lit a match, and threw it on there, and then
09:01said, oh, poor me, I can't cross.
09:04Um, maybe I did.
09:06Maybe I did light a match.
09:09Honestly, I'm more into science experiments than bridges that could be burnt down by one
09:13match.
09:15Veronica, you probably don't see it, because you are incapable of understanding this, but
09:19you missed out on a good family.
09:20You did?
09:21Yeah.
09:21Amen.
09:22Honestly, though.
09:23And that look right there says it all.
09:26That's the truth.
09:27Oh, nice knowing you, Veronica.
09:30Too shy.
09:37Are you okay?
09:39I deserve more than to get cheated on.
09:44I deserve more than to get lied about.
09:48I guess when they went low, I went lower.
09:51Not by me.
09:51I was 100% on your side up until this morning when I found out you were calling me names
09:58behind my back, and then I can't.
10:00I can't do that.
10:01I don't think I could let people in that I don't trust.
10:04Then you'll never have relationships, and that's why, I just want you to see, that's why
10:09your relationship with this family failed, because you didn't let us in.
10:11Not because we didn't let you in.
10:14I let you guys in.
10:15No, you didn't.
10:16Not by calling us names and backstabbing us.
10:21I'm sorry for hurting you.
10:23I appreciate the words, I don't really believe it.
10:35Maybe it's genuine, and maybe it's not.
10:37I don't know.
10:39Fair.
10:39I've seen and heard enough today to know that I don't really want anything further
10:46to do with you.
10:47Ditto.
10:50Maybe I did sabotage it at the end.
10:52Maybe I was so tired of this messed up family and this toxic relationship that I said, add
11:00the catalyst.
11:03So what if I did?
11:04I feel like I'm in chemistry class, like mixing things together, and it's going to
11:08like explode any second.
11:10Does Micah know that we talked at all?
11:12No.
11:13I know this will go bad.
11:15Mark my words.
11:16You're not emotionally intelligent.
11:18Grow a pair.
11:20As things progressed, I made up in my own mind that I couldn't be with somebody that could
11:25treat me like that.
11:26I don't think it's normal to look up your brother's girlfriend's naked photos.
11:30She's going around and just spreading rumors.
11:32I was prolonging something that needed to happen long ago.
11:36My claws are under their mittens.
11:38If I could wish one thing, I wish it happened sooner.
11:43I was scared to be alone because I thought alone was the worst thing.
11:48But the worst thing is a toxic relationship where you lose love for yourself.
11:53I want people to know I did love him.
12:02I was experimenting, honestly, at this point with a bunch of chemistry beakers, fragile
12:12glass, toxic chemicals.
12:15And Micah and I were two beautiful chemicals, but toxic together.
12:19And the catalyst was the family.
12:27I never thought something like that would happen.
12:30But I guess it's my fault.
12:33So what do you want to do as far as, like, getting down there and getting your stuff?
12:44I'm going to take my truck.
12:46Is she riding with you?
12:48If it's drug out, prolonged, lengthened anything, it's going to be even harder.
12:53Should I fly back and ship your stuff?
12:55You going to ship my boat for me?
12:56I mean, I won't pay for it, but I can logistically sign it up.
13:00Yeah, no, I'll drive you back.
13:02I'll drop you off.
13:04So after we break up, my first response is, you know, I can, I will drive you back.
13:11I don't know if we should ride back in the same car.
13:14If you ride back in the same car, I think you should at least have one of us with you.
13:18Probably.
13:19I drive it with you.
13:20I was going to say, I wouldn't go down there with her by yourself.
13:24I do know how manipulative she can be.
13:26Yep.
13:28Shortly after I came to the conclusion that seven hours in the car together would probably
13:31not be the best thing right now.
13:34I left Veronica with the producers and absolutely knew they were escorting her back to her home.
13:42Come on, Isaac.
13:45So Ethan and Isaac agreed to go with me to go down and grab all my things.
13:49I'm proud of you, Micah.
13:51Yeah, it took, I mean, it took a lot.
13:54Two trucks, two boats, a motorcycle, and a car.
14:23Yeah.
14:30Well, we got back late last night
14:32from picking up all my stuff down in Boca.
14:34It was hard, I guess not at first
14:36because I had been really frustrated,
14:38but after like, you know,
14:41I started going through the garage
14:42and getting the last of my stuff,
14:45it really hit me.
14:47I mean, I just broke down.
14:49I couldn't help it.
14:50And she broke down.
14:51She was like, why, why?
14:52And just tell me you never loved me.
14:54Any closure that way?
14:55And I was like, I can't tell you that.
14:56I loved you very much.
14:58I've never, never loved anyone like I loved you.
15:01Never had a relationship like this.
15:02And then she was like, well,
15:03was I your guinea pig then?
15:04I was like, no, it was all very real.
15:07And I'm sorry I had hurt you as bad as I had,
15:09but I just couldn't, couldn't keep doing that.
15:12Which room are you gonna live in?
15:14I think Isaac's old room,
15:17but Zach's got all his stuff in there still.
15:19For the time being,
15:20I'm gonna unpack my things, settle in up here.
15:24And I think I give it about a week
15:25and then I'll go back down to South Florida
15:27and keep fencing.
15:29On top of everything that's going on,
15:31we found out Veronica is in the virtual realm,
15:35spewing out lots of things that are just not true.
15:40Veronica is saying that me, Mike, and Isaac had left her abandoned on the side of the road.
15:47Yeah, absolutely not true.
15:50She's accused my family of abusing animals, which is not true.
15:54She's accused my family of incest, which is absolutely not true.
15:58All she is trying to do is find anything that would make someone look bad and spread it out there.
16:08I don't think there's a need to entertain that stuff.
16:10I think most people can easily read through that.
16:12She acts like she's anti-bullying, but she sure does it herself.
16:17I think trying to heal, trying to get over it, is gonna be much easier for me if I don't look at all that stuff.
16:24I've never said that she's a liar.
16:27I've just noticed that she may have embellished the narrative.
16:31Then I just started to realize she's proven she's a liar.
16:47Tonight, we're doing a controlled burn at the farm, and it will be a humongous cloud of smoke, and it'll look like a disaster.
16:57I'm just gonna make sure it doesn't get close to the woods.
17:00A little scary if you do it wrong.
17:02But a controlled burn will prevent a more devastating fire later on.
17:08It's okay if it keeps burning.
17:13Even though there's some good in it, you have to burn it all down and get rid of the good with the bad if it's not salvageable so you can start over.
17:26Kinda feels like Veronica just kept, you know, pouring lighter fluid on a whole bunch of different stuff and tempting me to light it.
17:33And every time we'd get in an argument, every time she would threaten me to leave, tell me to pack my stuff, get out of here.
17:38I didn't want to. I had a box of matches in my hand, but I didn't want to use them.
17:41That match had to be lit and thrown down on the lighter fluid.
17:47My therapist was like, have you overthought that maybe, like, God sent Veronica to make you realize you want to settle down?
17:58And not just take relationships and women and all that stuff for granted, just for pleasure.
18:03Like, there's actually a very rewarding relationship with someone, not something shallow, just for fun.
18:09Even though she might not be the one, it might have taken her for me to come to that realization, you know?
18:17You know, living a double life and not being transparent about my past.
18:22I cheated on her. I feel very, very, very for putting her through that.
18:27You know, I learned that all that will catch up to you. The truth always comes out.
18:31And nothing stays secret for forever.
18:35Hey.
18:51Hey.
18:52So, it's been quite a week.
18:57Hasn't it?
18:58Yeah, it has.
18:59I got a little gift for you, but there is one string attached.
19:04Where's the string?
19:05You have to teach me how to smoke one.
19:08Whoa.
19:09We've had a pretty chaotic couple of days here at the farm.
19:13Ethan is with me and we're hanging out, enjoying a little bit of downtime after all of the excitement.
19:22So, I bite the end off.
19:24I've never really smoked a cigar.
19:26One time in college, I took a puff from somebody else's, but I inhaled deeply and apparently you're not supposed to do that.
19:32Any tips for biting it off?
19:34Just a very tip.
19:36Just the tip?
19:37Just the very tip.
19:38That's awkward.
19:42That's what she said?
19:45Not that much.
19:48I love hanging out with Ethan.
19:50I kind of feel like we're making up for lost time, you know?
19:53I'm glad for Mike that he got out of that relationship.
19:56I was talking to him last night.
19:59I was like, man, if I could go back and I could get out of mine and Olivia's relationship as quickly as you got out of yours with Veronica's.
20:05Yeah.
20:06Man.
20:07But you live and you learn.
20:08Yeah.
20:09My mom and dad are not divorced yet because they haven't come to an agreement on who gets what.
20:14And then me and Olivia are not divorced because the first application wasn't filled out correctly.
20:20And after I hired an attorney to deal with it, Olivia will not respond to my attorney.
20:28Yeah.
20:29And me and Tegan, I love Tegan so much.
20:31I guess the only thing is like, where am I going to live?
20:35I really, really feel like I need to be back down here.
20:37But I don't think she can move down here at the moment.
20:40Do you know when she could?
20:42It doesn't bother Tegan that I'm not divorced.
20:46It just bothers her more so that nothing is happening to come to that point.
20:52I wanted to apologize to you for going along with all the crap that Olivia did for so long.
20:58And I don't know why I did.
21:00The last two years I really spent a lot of time reading and, you know, educating myself and I guess developing and just knowing why I think and believe the things I do so I can explain myself.
21:13And one of those things is family.
21:16You can't cut off your family, you know, for your spouse's sake, you know.
21:23Yeah.
21:24I really admire Ethan for, you know, really trying to make things work with Olivia.
21:29And, you know, I tried for 25 years with Barry.
21:33You know, it's hard to try to make a marriage work.
21:38I probably won't feel fully free until I'm divorced from Barry.
21:43I still feel just chained down.
21:47So anyways, I'm sorry for not standing up to her.
21:50Yeah.
21:51I just, I wanted us to work out some of that.
21:53Yeah.
21:54I loved her.
21:55I couldn't articulate my thoughts and feelings very well at all.
21:59It was clear to me you were walking on eggshells and I hated that for you, so.
22:03It's so freeing to not walk on eggshells anymore.
22:08To not answer to anyone.
22:17Hello?
22:18Hello?
22:19Hi.
22:20Can you see or see us?
22:22Hey.
22:23Oh, there you are.
22:24How's it going?
22:25Good.
22:26Where are you guys?
22:27We're at the Louvre in Paris.
22:31Oh, nice.
22:32Wow.
22:33Yeah.
22:34We're going to see the Mona Lisa in here.
22:35So how was it?
22:36How did the deed go down?
22:38How did it go?
22:44How did it go?
22:45Was it as good as he thought?
22:47Lydia, be truthful.
22:50How are you guys doing?
22:52What are you guys up to?
22:54Uh, Micah and Veronica broke up, so I went and helped Micah move up from Boca to Georgia.
23:00Oh, my.
23:01I guess I should call Micah.
23:02Yeah.
23:03Lydia, did you know Micah and Isaac got into a fight the night of your wedding over Veronica?
23:09Isaac sent Micah to the ER.
23:12He hit him with his elbow.
23:13He had to get stitches in the nose.
23:15You know, the outcome of that was that they're no longer together.
23:19Yeah.
23:20Well, thanks for the update there, I guess.
23:24Anything else new?
23:25Yeah, Zach, do me a favor.
23:27Uh, fill, make sure you fill those croissants, those croissants with cream.
23:30Yeah.
23:31Okay.
23:32Bye.
23:33Love you.
23:34Yeah.
23:35Yeah.
23:36Okay.
23:37Bye.
23:38Love you.
23:39We didn't keep them on the phone long because they have pressing business.
23:44Pressing up against each other.
23:47Oh, you had to go there.
23:49I did.
23:51I was hoping you'd buy me a drink.
23:54Oh, well, what do you want?
23:56If you want to be stingy, you can get me a glass, but otherwise get me the bottle.
23:59No, no, no, no.
24:01I'll do that.
24:03Yes.
24:04Will you please stop slandering and disrespecting my family in public for things, whether you
24:10perceive them to be true or not?
24:12Olivia seems to be coming closer and closer to what Veronica is, and that's a sad reality.
24:20Olivia's interview.
24:21A beam worker.
24:22A beam worker.
24:35One husband didn't work out.
24:36I'm trying for four now.
24:50I am divorced in spirit, not in legal paperwork.
24:51Yeah.
24:52I was shooting a wedding this weekend in Georgia, and Ethan reached out.
25:05He said he wanted to talk, and so we are going to meet at a hotel in Thomasville.
25:12I'm living in Washington, D.C.
25:14I moved there from LA and signed a six-month lease in the city, just tried it out, explored,
25:21lived on my own for a bit.
25:22And then afterwards, Brendan and I signed a lease on a townhome together and moved in.
25:26And yeah, I am so happy.
25:29The last time I saw Ethan, well, the last time Ethan and I spoke was when I was in Minnesota,
25:38trying to get him to sign paperwork to get all that finalized.
25:41He did sign paperwork, but he didn't fill it out properly, so it was flagged by the courts
25:45it never went through.
25:46So I feel a little anxious about it.
25:49My last conversations didn't go well, but at the end of the day, I would love to at least
25:53walk away from this and be divorced.
25:56I'm here at Kenwine in Thomasville.
26:14Barry and I finally came to an agreement, signed, notarized, done just a couple days ago.
26:21And we are officially divorced.
26:24We went back and forth for over three years.
26:26And then finally we decided to sit down and do mediation.
26:29And that got us in one day to settle everything.
26:34And so now I thought it would be nice to just meet and have a glass of wine
26:38and just kind of close that chapter officially.
26:43And that's what we're doing.
26:44After a year and a half of nothing, not answering my texts, blocking me, not fixing the paperwork,
26:59not making any effort to be divorced, Ethan finally unblocked me.
27:03This was like a month and a half ago, maybe.
27:06And he was very, very, very urgent.
27:08We need to get divorced immediately.
27:09We need to get divorced now.
27:10And I'm like, what is going on?
27:12I was traveling overseas at that moment.
27:14And I was like, listen, I will deal with this in a hot, like you made me wait a year and a half.
27:18I'm not bending over backwards to make this happen right now for you.
27:22And then I learned that same day that was the day he posted his new girlfriend online.
27:29So I'm not saying there's a correlation, but you can draw what you will from that.
27:33And so here I am.
27:35Let's get it all done.
27:36All in one weekend.
27:46Hello, hello.
27:47Hi.
27:48How are you doing?
27:49Good. How are you doing?
27:50I'm doing okay.
27:51Hey, I'm just so relieved.
27:56I'm like, oh boy.
27:59So what are you drinking?
28:02Well, I was hoping you'd buy me a drink.
28:06Oh, well, what do you want?
28:08White wine.
28:09I prefer a bottle.
28:11If you want to be stingy, you can get me a glass, but otherwise get me the bottle.
28:15No, no, no, no.
28:17I'll do that.
28:18Bottoms up, girl.
28:19Okay, thank you.
28:21I never thought you and Kim would be at a wine bar.
28:24Yeah, here we are, you know.
28:26And, you know, somebody was whining.
28:29We've got Alice, and then here's your non-alcoholic spritz.
28:35All right.
28:37Thank you, thank you.
28:38Here's to 25 years.
28:39Yep.
28:40This is my mini divorce party right now, but sometime I'll get my girlfriends together and
28:46we'll plan something fun.
28:49And this ain't it.
28:51Is Ethan coming?
29:01Uh, I think so.
29:03Ethan and I said we'd meet at four at the hotel here.
29:20He just texted me and said, I'll be there at 5 PM.
29:22So.
29:23Do you know why he's running late?
29:25It's Ethan Plath.
29:28I see that some things have not changed.
29:31So, if we can sell the house and get that other property paid off, then I feel like that's
29:42a step in the right direction.
29:43Yeah.
29:44That'll be big.
29:45Uh, Kim and I have agreed to sell the White House, so we're both on board with that.
29:50And I'll be moving to one of our properties in Cairo, and Kim will be doing whatever she
29:56has planned to do.
29:57I like the idea of me living out on the farm, like in a camper or something, and, um, you
30:03know, Ethan and or Micah and or Isaac building and living on the property, you know.
30:09There's a certain dynamic that Ethan, Micah and Isaac have together.
30:15Yeah.
30:16Right.
30:17So they got the brother bond, and, uh, the brother bond wasn't there for all those years
30:23when, you know, the who, you know, was around.
30:27Yeah.
30:28And, um, things weren't smooth.
30:30Yeah.
30:31Right.
30:32Oh, Ethan, class.
30:43Keep an eye out at the front of the hotel in the middle there.
30:47Did he just text you again?
30:49No.
30:50Did he text you?
30:51550.
30:52That's his ETA.
30:55That means, like, he just left.
30:59Yeah.
31:00Um, definitely gonna give him .
31:05Please leave your message.
31:08We'll see what he has to say for himself.
31:10I mean, I don't, when I was married to him, I took it personally that he did not communicate
31:15with me.
31:16Yeah, he called the meeting, so I think he owes me communication, but, like, it's not personal.
31:21It's who he is as a person.
31:22It's how he treats people.
31:23Ethan's here.
31:24Okay.
31:25Okay.
31:27How are you doing?
31:33How are you so late?
31:54Why are you so late?
31:56I had stuff to do.
31:57Yeah?
31:58Yeah.
32:00Okay.
32:02Two hours late.
32:05I would like for this to be done, and I would like for this to be wrapped up so we could
32:09both move on.
32:10All that you had to do was to talk to my attorney, and I didn't know why you weren't.
32:14Yeah, well, I was overseas when you guys were trying to contact me originally.
32:17Look, I am not arguing with you over the details of the divorce.
32:22All I'm saying is, have everything lined up, let's do it, and move on.
32:27You made me wait a year and a half.
32:29You can at least be polite about asking.
32:32I asked you politely in every way.
32:35I'm not apologizing for any of that.
32:44The crazy thing is, just a few short years ago, we were standing in the driveway, that
32:49whole incident went down.
32:53So that's quite a...
32:54And that was all Olivia driven.
32:56Well, yeah.
32:57I mean, Ethan went along with it, but he really didn't...
33:00He was trying to save his marriage.
33:02You know?
33:02Yeah, I mean, that's understandable.
33:05And I see how that was.
33:06But it's just kind of a big change.
33:09Oh, yeah.
33:10To now, where he's changed.
33:13He's changed.
33:14He's become more like...
33:16The happy guy.
33:17Yeah.
33:23Hey.
33:24Hey.
33:28How's it going?
33:28Why are you so late?
33:30I had stuff to do.
33:31Yeah?
33:32Yeah.
33:34Okay.
33:36Two hours late?
33:37Okay.
33:42Sorry for being late.
33:44I'm late today.
33:46Um, yesterday's the last day that I'm in Cairo.
33:49And I had rented a bunch of equipment at my dad's house and cut down trees.
33:54I just had to finish what I was doing before I could stop, because by the time I got back
33:57from talking to her, it'd be dark.
34:00Well, that's in the past is what it is.
34:03I couldn't do anything about it.
34:05Thank you for meeting me here.
34:06I got two things to say to you.
34:08Okay.
34:09When can we finalize everything?
34:13We can do it now.
34:14Do you have everything to do with now?
34:16Um, you asked me in a text about our original papers.
34:21Mm-hmm.
34:21Those are gone.
34:24They closed the case.
34:25So, my attorney said, if you get a hold of him, then he'll take care of everything.
34:32It can be done in two weeks.
34:34It'll cost you nothing.
34:37Yeah, I'm not paying.
34:38Oh, I understand.
34:41Olivia's saying it is my fault that stuff was spilled out incorrectly.
34:44That is absolutely false.
34:46In November 23, Olivia came back after her summer in California.
34:51We sat down at the island in the kitchen in our apartment.
34:55She was on her laptop on the state's website filling out the application for divorce.
35:00I distinctly remember there was one section that had to do with her finances that she skipped.
35:06And it wasn't you that decided to skip it?
35:09No.
35:11And I'm pretty sure that's why it was sent back.
35:14I do have to say, I would like for this to be done.
35:22And I would like for this to be wrapped up so we could both move on.
35:24However, you both reached out to me during a time when I was, one, overseas.
35:30I was not even in the U.S.
35:31And then, two, I told you, like, during tax season, and I didn't feel like there was a lot of wiggle room.
35:38Like, there was a lot of push from your end to get it done.
35:40I'm ready to get it done.
35:42I would just like for there to be, like, some niceties and grace and timeline.
35:53That's fine with me.
35:54Um, the only reason for that was because I had everything lined up, and all that you had to do was just talk to my attorney, and I didn't know why you weren't.
36:05Yeah, well, I was overseas when you guys were trying to contact me originally.
36:09Look, I am not arguing with you over the details of the divorce.
36:14All I'm saying is, I have everything lined up.
36:16Let's do it and move on.
36:19Okay.
36:24We can, and I'm not arguing with you either, but you made me wait a year and a half.
36:28You can at least be polite about asking.
36:32I asked you politely in every way.
36:34I am not apologizing for any of that.
36:37As soon as I saw Ethan, I knew he was not in a good mood.
36:41I guess I was hoping this time would be different.
36:43At least just being, like, polite.
36:46And I should know by now not to walk into it with expectations.
36:50The only other thing that I want to ask you is will you please stop slandering and disrespecting my family in public for things, whether you perceive them to be true or not, would you please stop?
37:05No.
37:06Why?
37:07It's not slander.
37:09No, it is slander.
37:10Me talking about my life and my experiences is not slander.
37:16Anyone can say they experienced anything, but if it's factually not true, it is slander.
37:22Olivia seems to be coming closer and closer to what Veronica is, and that's a sad reality.
37:30I thought Olivia was more tactful.
37:32I thought, you know, she wouldn't just outright lie about things like Veronica.
37:35I just, I see them both the same now.
37:39They're both liars.
37:39It's infuriating to me because what she walked into, she claims it's awful.
37:47Some of it may have been unpleasant, but it is not nearly as bad as she makes it out to be.
37:52And it's also 100% true that the majority of the problems that she wants to talk about today of her experience, she also created.
38:03You've done nothing but separate me from my family, slander my family.
38:08Friends and family have let me know occasionally here and there, like when she's been on a podcast or when she's posted something and what she said.
38:16So, like, there's a lot of things, just like with Veronica, that she read into, that she created, that she made bigger than they ever were.
38:22And my parents are like, what the hell's going on here?
38:23My siblings.
38:24And then, and then after you made a situation 10 times worse, then you want to step back and say, look at all that I went through.
38:32It's just, it's a double standard.
38:34It's a victim mentality that pisses me the hell off.
38:37You wouldn't like it if I was doing it to your family.
38:39All I'm saying, please, from this day forward, leave my family out.
38:44I can't control what you do, what you don't do.
38:46But I'm just asking you, you know, this on social media, the internet, to other people, please stop.
38:53Leave my family out of it.
38:55I can't do that because your family is a decade worth of experiences in my life that were hard, that made me the person that I am.
39:05They feel free to talk about what they think of me, but they don't want me to do the same for them because it doesn't reflect well on them.
39:13And I think that if people want to be talked about more warmly, they should have treated others better.
39:19I'm going to continue talking about my life.
39:22I'm going to continue talking about the things that I experienced, the things I learned from, the things that shaped the person that I am today.
39:31And I'm not asking you to not do that.
39:33I'm just saying, can you not do it in a slanderous way?
39:35Is telling the truth slandering people?
39:37Me and my family have not spoken out on social media, the internet, whatever, about anything that Veronica or Olivia have been saying.
39:45For one, I think their actions, very low, very dirty.
39:52It's definitely not following the golden rule.
39:54But also, I'm very confident if we did, it would literally start a he said, she said social media war.
40:02The only thing I'd say to Olivia, I think at this point, is thank you for the good times that we had.
40:12I would really like to officially, legally close that chapter, move on.
40:17And I have not and will not say anything about you purposely, slander you or anything like that.
40:24And I would just like that same in return.
40:26I think the kids all recognized that they had a really fun childhood growing up, you know.
40:36Yeah.
40:36It was a really good time.
40:38Yeah.
40:38It was really good.
40:40You can overcome negativity in the long run.
40:42Yeah.
40:42And come out on top.
40:44I think a lot of that was driven by Olivia.
40:47Yeah.
40:48Well, it was good having this last talk with you.
40:52I will be in touch.
40:54Did you get me a glass or a bottle?
40:56Yeah.
40:57There's a bottle there for you.
40:58Okay.
41:01I can't not talk about your family if I want to talk about my life.
41:08Very well.
41:09Do what you want.
41:10I've asked you.
41:11That's all I can do.
41:16Thanks.
41:17Okay.
41:20Have a nice life.
41:23You don't have to be friends with all your exes.
41:25You don't have to be friends with the people you were married to.
41:27Sometimes it works that way.
41:28Sometimes it doesn't.
41:30But that always depends on both people.
41:33And in this case, there's absolutely no way her and I will ever be friends.
41:37I was told you have the rest of a bottle for me.
41:45That's the most Ethan Plath thing he could do.
41:48Show up two hours late.
41:49Say, I have two things to tell you.
41:51A.
41:51B.
41:53Have a nice life.
41:54Walk off.
41:56Yeah.
41:58So he didn't actually buy me a bottle.
41:59My relationship with Olivia, you know, I look back on it now and I was like, dang, we should have never been together.
42:08You know, it never should have gone that far.
42:10But because it did and because I loved her and eventually ended, it ended up teaching me more than I probably would have ever learned anywhere else.
42:17Honestly, it's made me a better man.
42:23Life is a process.
42:24You're never done.
42:26You know, I'm still learning and I hope I continue to for the rest of my days.
42:30You know how to go instantly.
42:40I don't know.
42:41You know how to go my days.
42:42I'll be about to go to the next episode.
42:45You know how to go.
42:46Makingérie ways to win.
42:47You know how to go his freeway then go so.
42:51And then go to the next episode.
42:53You know how to go tone and wipe that took place.
42:56I hope we win.
42:57I hope we win.
42:59But I hope you win.
43:00You know how to go to the next episode.
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