Should Jon Bennison's try for St Helens against Leeds Rhinos have counted?

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Saturday night's play-off eliminator between St Helens and Leeds Rhinos produced one of the most controversial moments of the season as Jon Bennison was awarded a try, but should it have counted? Will Jackson, Sam Cook, Sam Brocksom and Peter Smith debate Chris Kendall's call.

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00:00look a couple of bits of controversy in that game the john bennison try pete i know your opinion on

00:12this so i'm going to start with you but i mean so second second st ellen's try six minutes to go i

00:19think it is um john bennison reaches out and the ball touches or appears i personally thought it

00:26just touched the line jack smith takes a look at it i mean he's about a meter away he's got the best

00:31view in the house and still sends it upstairs which i find i find pretty baffling but but pete what

00:36what's your view on it

00:37it it wasn't a try will it was it was short um there are angles which suggest that the ball is on the

00:53line and there are angles which suggest the ball wasn't on the line um the referee as i understand

01:00it the video referee has to be sure that um that the referee has made a mistake um he has to have

01:08clear evidence for that and the fact that there were two angles showing different things proves as far as

01:14i'm concerned that there was doubt he couldn't be sure he couldn't be 100 sure that the ball was

01:22grounded on the line therefore he should have ruled it out simple as simple as that um this particular

01:29video referee has been involved in a new number of controversial incidents um this season you could

01:37refer back to um to leads against lee when brodie croft had a try ruled out very dubiously in the opening

01:48moments um i think he got it wrong on this occasion and it it cost leads but leads were still in front

01:56at um at the time and they should still have seen seen the game out yeah i mean full transparency i was

02:04i wasn't at the game i was watching at home and i wasn't working i was just watching as a as a fan

02:08really kind of rugby league watching it at the time i didn't think it was that controversial

02:13because i think the first angle chris kendall saw had him touching the ball down on the line

02:20and i think if you've got an angle that shows it's tried then that's the one that really matters

02:25well yeah but there are other angles that show it wasn't a try that's the but chris kendall didn't

02:32use them he only i don't know if he had them at his disposal but there was only two there was only

02:37two angles that he watched if chris kendall didn't use them then that's on chris kendall isn't it as i

02:44say i don't we don't know whether he had them available to him do we but we've we've seen the

02:49angles on tv since haven't we they the video referee say i've seen every available angle usually i don't

02:58know if he said that on this this occasion um if he didn't use every available angle that's a mistake

03:04by somebody i don't know who by um the video referee has a job to do he does it honestly in my opinion

03:12in this case he made a mistake but it's over and done with it's it's as they say it's in the papers

03:19um the try was given there's absolutely nothing we can do about it now um forget about it move on

03:26yeah jack smith sent it up as double movement as well sam c sam b have you got any any issues with

03:34the double movement decision part part of the decision there i'm not sure i don't think it was

03:41no try i i messaged sam straight away and was like there's no way this is given uh and then you kind of

03:49look at i think the more you look at the more you start to doubt and wonder and i think but you you're

03:55writing that chris kendall didn't seem to given given how long some video referee decisions have taken

04:02which you know we've had over five minutes on occasion it didn't seem to take that long

04:09and that's probably where you're wondering has it has he looked at every single angle and obviously

04:15it's micro it's um like just it's intensified because of the the situation and like the fact

04:22it's the playoffs and what what that try means and then obviously what it means when

04:27they score the winner but i think i think it's it's one way if you if you pulled 100 people you're

04:33probably going to get 50 different answers either side and i think like pete says it's in the books

04:39now and it's it's how how leeds use that as motivation for next season really

04:42yeah yeah i'd agree we all we all know what the problem is the problem is this referees on field

04:51call malarkey and technology as well technology not being good enough so many camera angles i mean

04:58not necessarily on this situation but so many camera angles across the season have been blurred

05:01which just isn't and i understand there's a lot of money that has to go into that which the sport

05:06doesn't have but it's not it's not a perfect process you're not going to get perfect results

05:12but jack smith was right on the spot he didn't think it was a trial or he would have sent it

05:17up as a try he said no try um i personally don't think jack smith has got an excuse for sending it

05:23up given how close i mean look if you watch it back he is literally a meter away bent at the hips

05:30scrutinizing and he still doesn't believe his own eyes i don't i don't understand why he's

05:35sent that up as a sent that to chris kendall at all but when he sends it up as no try it changes the

05:41picture doesn't it because then then supposedly the video referee has to has to be absolutely clear

05:47that there's been a mistake made and with sam see has just said you know if you asked 100 people 50

05:55people have a different opinion there was doubt this we wouldn't be having this debate if um

06:01um if it had been a straightforward i don't know if that's a try or not chris you have a look at it

06:09and you decide but because we've got this daft rule whether the referee has to make a guess effectively

06:18then we get this sort of controversy if i just don't understand why they expect the referee to make a

06:25decision and then check check with the video or free the referee knows in which case give the try

06:31or don't give the try or he doesn't know in which case why should they give an opinion before he hands

06:36it on it's just an absolute nonsense and it creates well i mean we all like controversy don't we've been

06:43talking about for 15 minutes um but it creates unnecessary um hoo-ha and the if if jack smith had

06:55made a decision one way or the other or hadn't made a decision at all i don't think we'd be talking

07:00about this um everyone would just move on but because he said one thing and the referee said the other

07:10then um then we've we've got this debate it wasn't the first time in the game was it that the

07:16that the um refer video referee over who overruled sorry the referee

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