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00:01Previously on Sister Wives...
00:04I keep thinking that you and I could make this work.
00:07What about you and me?
00:08We have had so many conversations where I've said,
00:11it's done, we're done, we're not compatible.
00:13Will you accept me as monogamous?
00:16That's not what I wanted.
00:19Gosh! You're out of control!
00:22There are times that we butt heads. Yeah, absolutely.
00:25Oh yeah, this adjustment on both ends.
00:28I love Flagstaff, but it's time to do something different.
00:32I don't know how to explain this.
00:35It was never intended for me to know that Janelle was moving.
00:38Oh, I don't know, I need to find a man.
00:41Now I'm 52.
00:44But you have room for people to be in your life too.
00:47Madison actually called Janelle, saying Dad said he didn't love you.
00:53I know, but couldn't you, like, reach out to her?
00:56All this upheaval, all this damage, all this tearing us apart.
01:00I don't know how we fix it or when we fix it or whether we fix it.
01:05I don't know how we fix it.
01:06We'll never know how we fix it.
01:09The United States and Noine
01:15The big family, it's just a mess.
01:40It's a painful, sad mess.
01:45There was a point where I just went, holy cow, I'm having days where I'm feeling vengeful
01:52and angry, and other days when I'm feeling benevolent and kind, and it's just become
01:56this rollercoaster for me.
01:59I'm just waking kids up, getting ready for school.
02:03Got Solomon in the shower right now.
02:05Ari gets in a half hour, or goes into school an hour after Solomon.
02:10I think things are relatively good with Janelle.
02:11Once in a blue moon, I talk to Janelle, and once even more rare, I talk to Mary.
02:18With Mary, we really do struggle to talk.
02:20I don't blame her, but it doesn't make life easy.
02:23And then with Christine, we text a little bit about Truly, pick up times and stuff like
02:28that, but we don't talk in person at all.
02:30Instead of having an amicable, hey, you know, we're not really working out.
02:37Have a good life.
02:38See you later.
02:40It got darker and darker and worse and worse until breakup.
02:43And then, oh yeah, hey, I actually did love them.
02:47We're going to have a Tuscan white bean soup.
02:54A Tuscan.
02:55Tuscan.
02:56Because now I crave everything Tuscan.
02:58I like soup in the wintertime.
03:00I love soup.
03:01Soup is my love language.
03:02I love being married.
03:04I love being married to David.
03:06First year of marriage, they say that a lot of people fight in their first year of marriage.
03:10I think we're doing good, I'm just saying.
03:11I think that applies to young couples because they're trying to figure out each other.
03:17I think so too.
03:17But when you're older, I just don't care about a lot of the little stuff.
03:23No.
03:23No, I don't either.
03:25Our first year was really a tough year and a lot of, in some ways we had really good stuff
03:30but tough.
03:31It wasn't between you and I.
03:32It was a passing up garrison that was really tough.
03:35Yeah.
03:36It was really, really tough.
03:37It was a lot of emotions.
03:41I miss them every day.
03:44I bet you do.
03:45Every day.
03:46Yeah.
03:49So it was tough to see how you guys all handle it.
03:54And there's a lot of raw emotions going on.
04:02Like I live in Utah.
04:03Janelle lives in North Carolina.
04:05Maddie's there.
04:07A lot of my kids live in Utah too.
04:10Gwendolyn still lives in Flagstaff.
04:12So then Cody, like they're still in Flagstaff.
04:15Cody and Robin.
04:16Mary lives in Parowan.
04:17Everybody's very, very separated.
04:26So it's been about a year and a half that I've been here at the B&B.
04:29Things are good.
04:30I like my life.
04:31I don't need you showing up looking like you just rolled out of bed or trying to find you
04:36a man.
04:38I do have interaction with different members of the family at different times.
04:42I've got good relationships with some and almost non-existent with some.
04:47You know what I mean?
04:48At this point with Coyote Pass, it is still an ongoing situation.
04:58Cleaning up Coyote Pass is not something that Mary and Janelle are going to do.
05:02There's a lot of stuff that was left behind by Janelle that she was using for the RV.
05:06Mary and Janelle expect me to do all the cleanup on this place, but I'm not motivated to do
05:11that.
05:12Not for them, because they haven't been kind.
05:15It feels like he's trying to find any possible thing to put on me, like as far as responsibility
05:21with a property.
05:22You know, like I'm just wanting to get it taken care of.
05:25I think it's his stuff.
05:30All right, I'm going to do these because, you know, I'm grandma and I can cook the fun
05:34things for the kids, right?
05:35Absolutely.
05:37That's why we love having you here.
05:38I love North Carolina.
05:42I never thought about it.
05:44It wasn't a state I ever thought about, and I love it.
05:47I have four seasons, like all the things I need.
05:50I've been trying to kind of put myself in situations where I can meet people.
05:58Some of the community events, I've been trying to take a few classes down at the coffee shop
06:04or whatever, or the cooking store.
06:05So just trying to get my bearings.
06:09Okay, so Coyote Pass is still a pain in my ass.
06:13It's unsettled.
06:14No.
06:15So, you know, when I married Coyote, I really did feel a calling.
06:18I had a very strong spiritual witness that I was supposed to be married to Coyote.
06:22And I don't feel that pull anymore towards plural marriage.
06:26Look, I don't care how fast it sells.
06:28I just want it resolved.
06:29Isn't he all about fairness, though?
06:31Oh, no.
06:31But only for him.
06:32Oh, yeah.
06:33Okay, I got you.
06:34I got you.
06:35Only when it applies to Coyote Brown.
06:36That's true.
06:37That makes sense.
06:37Well, I'm sorry that that is what you're going through and the stress of the property.
06:43You know, I had sort of thought about a spiritual divorce a long time ago and didn't even realize
06:47it was an option.
06:48And so when Mary got one, I'm like, oh, hey, Mary.
06:52Who do I call?
06:53You know?
06:54So she has been kind of helping me get in touch with everybody.
06:57You know, there would be so much benefit to just making polygamy legal and giving any wife
07:03a claim on her husband's assets.
07:05I bet you almost would make polygamy go away rather than chase it underground and put people
07:09in jail.
07:10Just make it about the financial.
07:12No guy's going to be giving part of his estate to four or five wives.
07:16It's just not going to happen.
07:18All right.
07:19What do you think?
07:19Are those done?
07:20Yeah, I think those are done.
07:20I think those are done.
07:22Cool.
07:22All right.
07:24You know, I am really glad that it's worked out that I have relocated to North Carolina.
07:31Um, because after Garrison's death, I think Flagstaff would have been harder.
07:36I know that Wyoming was absolutely the right place to bury him.
07:40Everybody pretty much was able to make it.
07:43We're always talking about him.
07:44It almost is like he's very present.
07:46And I'm really good.
07:48And then at night, sometimes when it's quiet or some picture comes up on my phone, then
07:52I'm not good.
07:53I love being with the grandkids.
07:55Love it.
07:56It's so therapeutic for me.
08:01After the funeral, um, we went back to Erica's house and we were having a barbecue.
08:07Leon and I started talking about just unpacking everything because Garrison's death showed a lot.
08:19Like, so with Cody, it's like, I'm angry at the way things happened, but I can control how I react and how I reciprocate.
08:33And I'm still deciding how I do that.
08:36I'm sad.
08:39I'm sad for him.
08:40And I'm, I'm really sad for Robin's kids.
08:44And like, if I had a conversation with any of them, I'd be like, I'm like, I have nothing against you.
08:49And if I've ever done anything to hurt you, I'm sorry.
08:53Like, I would love to have a conversation.
08:54I'm not sure what to say other than that.
08:57Like, if I ever cause you pain, I'm sorry.
08:59You want your dad to show up.
09:24And you want reconciliation.
09:36And I know that I played a part, but I'm angry.
09:42And I'm angry because I'm still trying out to learn to not be disappointed.
10:02I'd really love to have a better relationship with my children that I had with those ex-wives.
10:07I literally just compartmentalized the heartbreak.
10:12I don't know what to do.
10:16I would love healing with every single person I know.
10:19I would love healing with Mary.
10:21I would love healing with Janelle.
10:23I would love healing with Christine.
10:26And of course, all of my children.
10:29But I think we're in an impasse here.
10:31Because this healing can only happen on their terms only.
10:37I would absolutely love it if Cody and I, if Robin and I, if, you know, me and Christine, me and Janelle,
10:45could just get to a place with each other that we can be kind and civil to each other.
10:56In order to really heal with anybody, there has to be trust.
11:00We all need to see each other again when it's not around a funeral.
11:04So we can all start to heal a different way.
11:07I'm still learning how to...
11:09to see him for who he is.
11:15And I feel like Leon's already come to peace with this.
11:19And it's really hard because I don't feel like I have.
11:22I'm trying to understand that maybe he didn't know how to show up and he might be hurting.
11:30We're ready to go.
11:44Let's go.
11:44Let's go do this thing.
11:45Let's go have you speed date.
11:47No, I have never even thought about doing speed dating.
11:50Just too stressful.
11:51It's too big of a group and it's way too noisy.
11:53Losing a wife in our religion was sort of a walk of shame.
11:57I've been concerned that somehow or another I'm diminished in Robin's eyes.
12:05I am going on a date with a whole bunch of men.
12:10I think it's going to be a fun day.
12:16I don't know how it's going to be.
12:17I've never done anything like this before, but I think it'll be fun.
12:19So I'm heading up to Salt Lake because I am going to go to a speed dating event.
12:23That should be very interesting.
12:27I have never done speed dating before.
12:33So just do that when you walk in tonight.
12:37Yes.
12:38Okay.
12:38And then I need a man who knows and loves this bitch.
12:50Listen, if somebody doesn't like me and all my snort laughter, then they just aren't going
12:57to get me.
12:57And then they're just not my person.
13:05I think humor in any case.
13:07I don't care if you fart when you laugh accidentally.
13:10I don't, you know, I don't have a problem with Mary's snort laugh.
13:15We're ready to go.
13:16Let's go.
13:17Let's go do this thing.
13:18Let's go have you speed date.
13:19No, I have never even thought about doing speed dating.
13:22Just too stressful.
13:23It's too big of a group and it's way too noisy.
13:25I have to meet them totally organically.
13:27I'm not going on any apps.
13:29I'm not speed dating.
13:30I'm not letting anyone set me up.
13:31Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
13:34Speed date for a soulmate.
13:37Dating is interesting because some people really just don't want to date.
13:42It's teaching me how to trust myself.
13:48And I'm interested in finding somebody who is kind, who is outgoing, who is super confident
13:58with who he is.
14:00I would love to find somebody who's tall, like six feet or taller would be awesome.
14:09Somebody who has like really good, kind eyes.
14:13You can see if somebody's a good person by looking in their eyes.
14:17For the most part, it's just Cody and I and our kids.
14:31You know, I nag him about interacting with his other children.
14:34He pushes back, tells me to give him space, da-da-da.
14:38So, but other than that, it's just us.
14:41School years ago, school mornings were like a crazy thing because some mother,
14:47some mothers were off to work and some mothers were getting kids ready for school
14:50and some kids were getting themselves ready for school.
14:56Okay, so here we go.
14:59All right, come on, you gotta eat.
15:01You got everything, Gabe?
15:02Yes.
15:04Gabe, um, you want breakfast for you?
15:06Yes.
15:08This is pretty much how it goes.
15:10I really wasn't that involved with getting planned, ready for school.
15:14I was at work.
15:15It was bittersweet.
15:27The Lehigh experience, it was, it was really special.
15:34There we go.
15:35We just, we just killed that turkey right there.
15:38There's this strange thing that Robin and I were in plural marriage together, it all came
15:44together, and they all just left.
15:46Like, we're monogamous, but we didn't choose that.
15:50It was kind of chosen for us when Cody's exes left.
15:55I did not choose monogamy for Robin because I chose me.
16:03Like, I didn't have a relationship with Cody, and I barely had one with Robin.
16:08And I wasn't willing to do that just so she could say she lived polygamy.
16:12Okay, go eat.
16:16Vitamins solved.
16:17It's definitely a different balance because he wasn't there all the time, you know?
16:21It was a couple times a week.
16:23The yellow and the green.
16:25Try not to spill, bud.
16:26I think because he had so many wives, he didn't have to check in the same way as you would
16:32as a monogamous.
16:32Okay, here's your school equipment, too.
16:35I was very devoted to my family life, but now I'm embedded in my family life.
16:41He's putting his phone in his pocket.
16:45Oh.
16:46Saul, it's not good for your body.
16:50You know, with plural marriage, you'd think you would need more accountability, but I think
16:55I'm being held more accountable now with Robin.
17:00I love you.
17:01I love you.
17:02Bye, Mom.
17:02Bye.
17:03Have a good day.
17:04I'm now in a different marriage than I've ever been in.
17:09Good morning.
17:10You ready to go?
17:14Losing a wife in our religion was sort of a walk of shame.
17:18Are you going to smile?
17:19There we go.
17:21I've been concerned that somehow or another I'm diminished in Robin's eyes because we
17:27haven't had an easy three years going through all of this.
17:30Did you get all the bags?
17:32Her bags?
17:33Her bags?
17:33Got it all.
17:34I've had family members ask me if Cody and I are going to live plural marriage again.
17:41Do you want to watch us drive off and wave?
17:44Yes.
17:45So there's been some conversations about that from family, some pressure, a little bit, too.
17:51You know, are you going to live plural marriage again and bring somebody else into the family?
17:57Put your seatbelt on.
17:58And it's a very personal thing because it's such a big decision.
18:03And I'm not sure what's going to happen.
18:11Jen decided it would be a really good idea to do some practice speed dating.
18:15Hi, I see your name is Mary.
18:19Wow, that's spelled weird.
18:20My name is Bob.
18:21I spell it with two O's.
18:25Nice to meet you.
18:26Yes, I can.
18:36We'll do a redo.
18:37No, there's no redo.
18:38So we're kind of really celebrating North Carolina and the property.
18:42And so everybody's out.
18:44Aspen and Mitch are here.
18:46Kristen and David are here.
18:47My sister and her husband are here.
18:48Peyton is here.
18:49But we're going to also go distance.
18:51There's no distance?
18:52I can't go distance.
18:54No, we said that it's a race.
18:56Maddie's been actually training to run a marathon.
18:58So I think she was talking about it.
18:59And I think David, in his true fashion, is like, well, I could run a marathon.
19:03He's charming, but he definitely has an ego.
19:05But he's going to pull a hamstring.
19:06Hey, you're an endurance racer.
19:08Kate.
19:08I'm like a cheetah.
19:11Do you think this is like Maddie challenging you?
19:13Do you think this is like a rite of passage?
19:15I don't know if it's a rite of passage.
19:18I think that if it was going to be a shorter distance, David would win.
19:22David is not going to win this.
19:24On your mark.
19:25Get set.
19:26Go.
19:27Go, Maddie.
19:31Maddie.
19:31No, Maddie.
19:32You got to run faster.
19:35Faster, Maddie.
19:35Faster.
19:36Maddie.
19:37Wow, yeah.
19:41Nice.
19:42That was fun.
19:43I think David won, though.
19:45That was a bit surprising.
19:46What I love is that you can tell he really loves Christina, and Christina is so happy.
19:51I mean, Cody always had such a big personality and such a big presence, right?
19:54And David is the same.
19:55He's got a big personality.
19:57He's full of bluster.
19:59He's kind of like, I can do it.
20:00I can do it better.
20:02Like, all that.
20:02Like, I mean, he's just that guy.
20:05I think Dave is confident.
20:07Cody is very confident as well.
20:09He's confident.
20:09And, um, it's funny.
20:12I've always preferred someone who's a little bit, like, very confident.
20:16Do you guys want to see the, um, do you guys want to see the map?
20:19Like, we have an aerial map of the property that we're going to go look at.
20:22I have been here for literally more than a day, and you have not mentioned an aerial map?
20:27I have wanted property, our farm, the rural life, since I was a little kid.
20:34So, Maddie, Caleb, and I bought 156 acres in North Carolina, about 30 minutes from their existing house.
20:41It's very rural, totally undeveloped, covered with trees.
20:46I gotta unroll it and then roll it the other way.
20:49So, we have two projects, really, on this property.
20:51We need to get our houses built, and we need to get the farm area cleared.
20:58Gotta have a barn, gotta have a place for the chickens, gotta have a garden, all that.
21:03So, this is where we want to put the flower farm, here.
21:07So, where would your home be, and then the business again?
21:10So, we're going to put the home here.
21:11This is where it perked for septic.
21:13Okay.
21:14So, you're going to have a road.
21:15What are you going to call it?
21:16Like, this road.
21:16What are you going to call that road?
21:17Caleb said, why don't we call it Bob Boulevard?
21:20Bob Boulevard.
21:20Bob Boulevard.
21:22That's funny.
21:23I like that.
21:24That's a good name.
21:25Garrison's first name is Robert.
21:27So, um, he would be referred to as, like, Uncle Bob.
21:31They all have their little nicknames.
21:33Garrison's his pop.
21:35Garrison's always in our thoughts, right?
21:36And we will definitely probably have a part of the flower garden that's really more of
21:40a memorial to him and to Bob's Floral, his Hawaiian shirt shop.
21:45We'd like to do a flower garden area, like a monument, like a quiet garden that's, like,
21:52dedicated to people who struggle with mental health and lost their battle to mental health.
21:56He'll always be here.
21:57He will be represented here, for sure, on this property.
22:00So, when we get here and, like, you get checked in and I just, like, you're going to have to
22:15totally not sit where I can see you.
22:18I have said for a long time I would really, really, really love to meet somebody organically.
22:23And this is probably almost as organic as I'm going to get.
22:27Salt Lake City speed dating event is where it's at for me.
22:32I might say otherwise at the end of the night, though.
22:34We'll see.
22:35You're going to get there, in my head.
22:38You're going to, like, sign your name in, get your little name badge.
22:41These guys will just deer in headlights, and they're going to have to make you interested
22:49enough in a short amount of time to, like, know that this is what you want to do.
22:54So, like, what if they sit down and they don't know what to say?
23:00What if they sit down and they just, like, stare at you?
23:04Jen decided it would be a really good idea to do some practice speed dating.
23:11Hey, Mary.
23:13I'm Edward.
23:14Hey, Edward.
23:16See me match.
23:17I did.
23:18Yeah, you match that energy and that voice.
23:19I can totally match that energy.
23:21Okay.
23:22Tell me a little about yourself.
23:23I'm 54.
23:25Yeah.
23:25Single.
23:26Uh-huh.
23:26Ready to mingle.
23:27Ready to mingle.
23:28Like it.
23:29Hi.
23:30I see your name is Mary.
23:31Wow, that's spelled weird.
23:32My name is Bob.
23:33I spell it with two O's.
23:37My son.
23:38I do.
23:42Hi, Mary.
23:43My name is Thomas.
23:45Hi, Thomas.
23:46This is something I've never done before.
23:48What about you?
23:49I've done this a lot.
23:50I'm actually on my fourth wife.
23:52Not at the same time.
23:54Hold on.
23:55Uh-huh.
23:56At what point in the conversation?
23:58Do I say, oh, by the way, I have been divorced from a man who had four wives, but my family
24:06has 18 children, and I only have one.
24:09Like, would you actually tell somebody on a six-minute date?
24:12I don't know.
24:13That would take up the whole six minutes.
24:15I don't know.
24:16There was a guy that I was talking to.
24:18He found out who I was.
24:20And he was like, I just, I can't.
24:24Like, I can't continue talking to you.
24:27This is not something that I'm even interested in or open to.
24:32And it was very hurtful to me.
24:37Because I was a polygamist, you're not interested in pursuing a relationship with me.
24:44First date is not a, I was a polygamist, third wife.
24:53You know, you don't go into that on a first date.
24:55That's too much information.
24:57That date will be over, and you will never get a second date.
24:59Been there, done that.
25:00If I were to ever have another relationship, it's going to be somebody that I know for a while.
25:05And they'll know, because, you know, it's not a big, not a big secret.
25:11It was like my first real big realization that that's going to inhibit some people from even wanting to start talking to me.
25:23In my brain, there's something I want maybe more than you do, but I...
25:38Oh, you're talking about sex?
25:39Yeah.
25:40A polygamist is getting more than he wants, and a monogamist isn't getting enough.
25:47Won't be really tall grass here in a minute.
25:49We definitely envision this property as a gathering place.
25:55Woo!
25:56Hopefully we can put some small little cabins eventually for everybody to stay in or whatever.
26:01But in general, we want it to be a gathering place.
26:05I'm doing it.
26:08Don't you know, I'd love to have, you know, this be where the whole family gathers.
26:13Absolutely.
26:13I also want my house to be the place where everybody gathers.
26:16Just saying we could have, like, some sort of a gang war, kind of, between Janelle and I a little bit.
26:22Like, who's going to get more people?
26:24She's winning right now, by the way.
26:25This is exciting for Maddie, Caleb, and Janelle.
26:30It seems like a lot of work.
26:31But I am excited for them, and it's all of their dream, so it's perfect.
26:38There is nothing in North Carolina that I'm even interested in, no.
26:44This is raw land.
26:45There's really nothing appealing here.
26:48Christine is not a homesteader.
26:49She just wants to live in her very comfortable house in the suburbs.
26:53Look, I'm not trying to compete about who gathers where the most.
26:58I feel like having a really great place that is big enough to accommodate all of us, that's the goal,
27:05is to find a space that we can all hang out that's big enough, wherever that is.
27:11Woo!
27:14Cheers to the dream and cowboying the s***.
27:17Cheers!
27:19We're just going to cowboy the s***.
27:20It's the attitude of just, we're going to figure it out as we go.
27:22So, Stephen said we can pile it all up and do, like, big, huge fires.
27:27Oh, yeah.
27:27Like that one over there.
27:28Aspen and I think we should invite all the siblings and recreate that photo of Garrison, like, with maniacal eyes.
27:35Garrison loved fire.
27:42There's this picture, and they're all kind of around this bonfire,
27:45and there's this Garrison standing in front of it, and he is just excited.
27:50You can tell on his face.
27:50So, I think they're trying to, they were laughing about trying to recreate that one.
28:09Rob and I are going out to dinner tonight.
28:11It's always a good experience for us.
28:16It's always a good time for us to be able to have a conversation and talk.
28:20Will you cut that up for me?
28:21How did you do that?
28:23That's a pretty hard t***.
28:24Let me use your knife, because I was licking mine.
28:26All right.
28:28I'm okay with your licking.
28:30Oh, that sounded bad.
28:31I just had a lot of fun with what you just said in my head, but I want to be a gentleman and not a...
28:44Yeah, I know, right?
28:45Be a gentleman.
28:46Just kidding.
28:48You okay with my licking?
28:50You can lick.
28:52You'll lick the rest of it.
28:53You're teasing me.
28:55No, no, no.
28:56There's still a little there, right there.
29:00So, that's fun to tease you.
29:02You get cute.
29:03You got all shy.
29:04You get shy.
29:06Cody's a lot more showy, even in front of the kids.
29:09And I'm like, whoa.
29:10And I come across sometimes as snobby, but I'm actually just shy.
29:15Um, so a relative asked you if we were still into plural marriage.
29:23Well, just if we were going to live it anymore, kind of a thing.
29:27What would you say?
29:28I don't know.
29:29Really?
29:30I don't know.
29:31I wasn't quite sure what to say to him.
29:34I didn't want to speak for you.
29:39I feel like if this is still something that's a part of me, then wouldn't I live it?
29:46Cody and I never chose to live monogamy.
29:50It's definitely not something I ever would have chosen for myself.
29:57You turned down qualified, worthy individuals for marriage because they weren't going to live
30:07plural marriage.
30:08That's true.
30:09I had marriage proposals.
30:11I had people I dated.
30:12I could have lived monogamy just fine.
30:15I mean, just some guys, the different men in different times, um, said, you know, I'd
30:20marry you in a heartbeat.
30:22You know, we were friends, you know, a little bit of, uh, you know, like talking and hanging
30:28out and, you know, maybe with our kids together kind of a thing.
30:32And I was just like, well, I plan to live plural marriage.
30:35And, you know, each one of them at different times was like, that's not something I want
30:40to do.
30:41Like, listen, if I'd have been pursuing you and I didn't have other wives, how would
30:45you have treated it?
30:46I would have said the same thing to you.
30:48I wouldn't have even been open to him.
30:50Do you see a value in it for us and our future in any way?
30:54I don't know what space Robin is in, and I don't know what space we'll be in in two or three
31:01years.
31:04I almost feel like turning the table and saying, well, do you want to get back in plural marriage?
31:11There was somebody who was really supportive and really wanted to work and really wanted
31:15a relationship with me as well as with you, not just you.
31:19And then we had a guarantee that it was going to be okay and it was going to be wonderful
31:24and it was going to be what I always dreamed it was supposed to be.
31:31That would be something to really, truly consider.
31:33I think you and I share something very special.
31:53But if it's not duplicatable, it could put us at risk.
31:57And there is something.
31:57You got to think about this.
31:59Come on, there's something wonderful here, right here.
32:01Well, yeah, yeah, there is.
32:03Why would we put that at risk?
32:05Yeah, you're right.
32:06For anything other than...
32:09I guarantee.
32:10And that's the only reason.
32:11It's not possible.
32:12Why would we put that at risk?
32:14Anything other than in my brain, there's something I want maybe more than you do.
32:20What?
32:23What do you mean?
32:24I don't want to talk about that subject.
32:27But I...
32:28Oh, you're talking about sex?
32:28Yeah, I'm not...
32:29Oh.
32:30My primary motivation, I'm afraid, at this state in my life...
32:34Yeah.
32:37Would be, um...
32:38Yeah, just...
32:39It's such a...
32:40Just how good-looking she is.
32:41I'm not kidding.
32:42And that would be the very worst reason.
32:46Well, I'd still want to be able to connect.
32:47So...
32:48So...
32:48You don't understand how you're coming across.
32:51I know.
32:51I know I'm a guy.
32:52And I don't...
32:53No.
32:53I don't freaking care.
32:55Okay.
32:55You're just kind of being a bit of a pig right now.
32:59I'm being crass here for a reason.
33:06I'm saying, yeah, she looks hot.
33:09And that would make me want to talk to her.
33:12But I'm not interested in marrying her.
33:16Because that won't matter when I'm getting nagged.
33:19For me, I'm like, okay, well, so you have the real relationship with me, but then she's
33:26just, what, a concubine?
33:28Because that's pretty much what that is.
33:29It should be more than that, for sure.
33:31Most women want commitment.
33:33They want love.
33:33They want tenderness.
33:34They want companionship.
33:36They want...
33:36Honesty and depth and emotional intimacy.
33:43You're saying you would never put this at risk.
33:46But you're saying the only reason why you would do it is for...
33:49Is for...
33:50But that's not a good enough reason.
33:53Okay.
33:53My point...
33:53Right.
33:54I'm like, whoa.
33:55My point is, it's not a good enough reason.
33:59Agreed.
34:00He's always had this surplus, if you will, of intimate relationships.
34:09There's a fear that, like, he doesn't know what to expect as far as monogamy is concerned.
34:18And I'm looking at him going, dude, we've never had trouble here before.
34:23Why would we have trouble now?
34:25A polygamist is getting more than he wants, and a monogamist isn't getting enough.
34:29I don't mean to be salacious here, but we failed already.
34:37We...
34:37It was very, very painful.
34:40So, if I was to ever try this again, she would have to be an absolute diamond.
34:49And I'm not talking about just looks.
34:51I'm talking about the kind of devotion to us, to Robin, that I would never...
34:57And I mean, I'm getting really honest with you here.
35:01Just take the sex out completely.
35:03She would have to adore Robin so much that I would never, ever have to worry about whether
35:10she was competing with Robin for my love and affection.
35:15And how would it work?
35:17We're not involved in a religion anymore.
35:19Yeah.
35:19That would be a requirement, is to have a proper authority to perform the marriage.
35:25It would create a lot of worry and stress for me that the person coming in, a possible
35:31wife coming in, would not take it as seriously.
35:34I would be concerned that Cody wouldn't take it as seriously.
35:37I'd just be constantly be worried that it'd just all fall apart and our whole lives would
35:42turn into crap again.
35:43I'm just not interested in having the drama in my life of another woman.
35:56Are you and I enduring our marriage?
35:59No.
36:00No.
36:01I mean, we have our bad days.
36:03You know, our murder face comes out and it's like, stop that.
36:06Okay.
36:08You're okay knowing that all the attention I need.
36:17Those sister witches of yours.
36:19Hey, Cody.
36:22Now I'm a sister witch.
36:23Is that what he said?
36:24Sister witches?
36:26He's getting pretty creative there.
36:28Cody's confidence level comes from calling people names.
36:32I'll own that title.
36:33Absolutely.
36:34I'm a sister witch.
36:35You bet.
36:37You could be my cheerleader?
36:39You know I am.
36:40Then we're great.
36:41Rooting for you.
36:43The problem I see in plural marriage is that I don't think those two ladies can get along
36:53once I'm in both of their beds.
36:58Robin was welcomed by the family.
37:01And when her and I went on our honeymoon, it felt like it changed.
37:07And it wasn't fair to her.
37:09And I'm not saying it was fair to them.
37:11It's just the lifestyle we all chose.
37:14Deal with it.
37:15Well, we dealt with it.
37:16They're gone.
37:18She's here.
37:18I'm moving on.
37:19I'm a monogamist.
37:20And it pisses me off when people ask me why I want to be a monogamist still.
37:25So didn't you see the mess?
37:26I'm done.
37:30Robin, I'm done.
37:33Because the idea of it just breaks my heart.
37:37So it's you and me, baby.
37:38Monogamy?
37:39Does it work for you?
37:40Will it work for you?
37:41Well, it sounds good.
37:44No, no, no.
37:45No, no, no.
37:46It sounds good.
37:47I'm good.
37:48I'm good.
37:49I'm good.
37:50I'm good.
37:52I'm good.
37:54OK.
37:55It's a deal.
37:55It's a deal.
38:05It is hard to say this.
38:07It is hard. It was hard when we were there at dinner. It's hard to say it now. It's hard to say
38:14it. It goes against some things in me, some deep parts of myself. And it's a challenge to kind of
38:25just really say I'm done with plural marriage. I don't know. It's confusing. And I'm still
38:32wondering, still asking those questions, looking for the answers.
38:48You can feel free to have a grab a coffee or a water, and then we'll get started here in like
38:5410 minutes. Break a leg, bro. Break a leg. You got this. It's going to be awesome. The last couple
39:02of years, I feel like I've really just kind of embraced, like, let's just do all the things.
39:07Just say yes. Just do all the things. Just have fun. Experience life. So that's what I'm doing.
39:15Write your date's name on the card, and if there's any comments that you want to write about them,
39:21whatever will help you kind of remember who they are. I don't know what types of men are going to
39:25be here. I don't know if, you know, they're just, I just have no idea what to expect.
39:38This season on Sister Wives.
39:41I got another one of those emails from some woman asking sort of like to get to know us for the
39:47purpose of joining the family. You and Cody could hang out. Yeah.
40:04We talked about the spiritual divorce, and I think I'm ready. I love that you're doing this,
40:09Janelle. What's coming for you? Cody called, and he said that somebody wants a couple pieces of
40:18the property. Does your money ever go into his hands? It better not go through his hands.
40:23Yeah. We're going to close on Coyote Pass soon. This is bullsh**. I'm not selling this land until
40:30everything is perfectly fair, and we do this the right way. Sorry. It's a standoff at the
40:36Coyote Pass final showdown. I would love healing with Mary. I would love healing with Janelle. I
40:49would love healing with Christine. I don't want to talk to Cody ever again. How much longer until
40:58you just realize that he's an ass? Well, he wants to see me. I really want to tell him that we'll never
41:05be friends. I wanted to apologize with all my heart. I said I didn't love you. That wasn't true.
41:18Is there any part of you that would ever go back to Cody? I'm not trying to make us back together in
41:25any way, Mary. We are never, ever, ever getting back together. Listen, I have this wife. Her name is Robin,
41:34and she would never let me do anything naughty. As bad as I want to do it.
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