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00:00Good Sunday morning, everyone. Welcome to Sunday Morning Futures. I'm Maria Bartiromo.
00:05Today, on his heels, former FBI Director Jim Comey, indicted for lying and for obstruction,
00:13sending his former partners in crime running for cover.
00:18It's very, very unfortunate that, again, Donald Trump and his people who are supporting him
00:23refuse, again, to acknowledge that and move on.
00:26I don't see any case against me. I have looked back on all of my actions and decisions.
00:32And with John Durham, the special counsel, and others that have looked at what we did,
00:36it was certainly consistent with our legal authorities and with the laws.
00:42Is this the accountability we have been waiting for? And who is next to take the fall for the big lie,
00:48the biggest political scandal we've ever seen, which ripped the country apart?
00:52Coming up, the man who first exposed the lie of Russia collusion so many years ago,
00:57former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, with analysis on where the criminality
01:02really lies. Plus, Senate Judiciary Committee member Lindsey Graham on the merits of the case
01:07while holding Vladimir Putin to account for Ukraine's death and destruction.
01:12Then the stare-down is on. One legislative day left to fund government and avoid a government shutdown.
01:18Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, is here on whether Tuesday's deadline will pass with massive
01:24layoffs across government and ahead of his emergency meeting tomorrow at the White House.
01:30Plus, Senator John Fetterman on the shutdown, Israel and Gaza. Also, unity in America after
01:36Charlie Kirk's murder. It's all right here, right now, on Sunday Morning Futures.
01:40And we begin this Sunday morning with the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey
01:52on charges of lying to Congress and obstructing a congressional proceeding.
01:57If found guilty on both counts, Comey faces up to 10 years in a federal prison.
02:02The charges stem from testimony that he gave during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing back
02:06in September of 2020, looking into the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation,
02:12in which Senator Ted Cruz asked Comey directly if he ever leaked information to the media.
02:18Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated
02:23that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were directly aware of it
02:29and that you directly authorized it.
02:31I can only speak to my testimony. I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
02:38So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak.
02:41I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.
02:46Comey does have a history of sharing information. He testified during a Senate hearing in 2017 that
02:52he in fact did pass along a memo which detailed his conversation with President Trump about Michael
02:58Flynn. He passed that to a law professor at Columbia University, Daniel Richman, his friend,
03:03who he said he hoped would leak it to the New York Times, which in fact he did.
03:09Comey did this after he was fired as FBI director by the president.
03:12Following the indictment Friday, Comey took to social media to proclaim his innocence.
03:18My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump,
03:23but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not live on our knees and you
03:31shouldn't either. My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence
03:36in the federal judicial system and I'm innocent. So let's have a trial and keep the faith.
03:45President Trump says the indictment of Comey is the Department of Justice returning to the rule of law
03:50after its years of politicization under the Biden and Obama administrations.
03:55It's about justice. He lied. He lied a lot. But this was a very important thing. This was he could
04:02have said, well, maybe or I don't remember. He didn't say that. He gave a very specific answer
04:07and then he verified it numerous times and he got caught. The problem that Comey has is he got caught
04:14lying. Joining me now in the Sunday Morning Futures exclusive is South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham,
04:21who is the chairman of the Budget Committee and a member of the Judiciary Committee. Senator,
04:25always a pleasure. Thanks for being here. Give us your reaction to the indictment of Jim Comey.
04:32Well, I think it's a long time overdue to hold somebody accountable for Crossfire Hurricane,
04:39the most corrupt investigation in the history of the country, not just the FBI. And this is the tip
04:44of the iceberg. Now, he's presumed innocent until proven otherwise. If I'm the Department of Justice,
04:50I better get my best lawyers on the field because Patrick Fitzgerald, Comey's lawyer, is a great lawyer.
04:57But the idea he leaked classified information to create a narrative politically, I think that's a strong
05:04case. But there's so much else. For 10 years, I've been talking to you about this. Crossfire Hurricane
05:10was opened up in July 2016 along the premise that Donald Trump was an agent of Russia. They'd had a
05:17golden shower experience in Russia. He was corrupt in terms of his dealings with Russia, that he was
05:23working with Russia to undermine the 2016 presidential election. That was in July of 2016. They wound up
05:30getting five warrants against Carter Page, an American citizen who was allegedly involved in this plot.
05:38Well, in August of 2016, less than a month of opening up the investigation, Comey was in a meeting with
05:45Obama and Brennan and others, the Vice President Biden, where there was intelligence presented that it
05:52was designed by Hillary Clinton, the narrative. Her campaign was starting the narrative that Trump was
05:59associated with Russia to get away from the fallout of the email server scandal. And September the 7th,
06:07a couple of months later in 2016, Comey received a memo from the intelligence community, an investigative
06:14lead, suggesting that it was Hillary Clinton's campaign who signed off on the plan to link Trump to
06:22Russia to avoid her problems. Now, the question is, did they ever take that allegation seriously?
06:28He told me that that doesn't ring a bell when I asked him in 2020. Can you imagine the Republican
06:35candidate for president that you've got a memo from the CIA saying it may be his opponent who's
06:41starting this line of inquiry and the FBI did nothing about it? So Patel is going to tell me of whether or
06:47not they opened up an investigation. So every time there was some exculpatory information,
06:52the court never heard about it. It was swept under the rug. So by January of 2017,
06:59the man who provided the information to steal for the dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton used to get
07:05warrants against Carter Page said to two FBI agents in January of 2017, this is all bar talk hearsay.
07:13It was never meant to be used in court. And they still went after Carter Page with a warrant two more
07:18times. And finally, every person who signed the Carter Page warrant said, if I knew then what I
07:23know now, I wouldn't have signed it. That is stunning. That is stunning. If I knew then what I know now,
07:29why didn't they know it then? They were all key people. They did. That's the whole point of the case.
07:35Right. I'm not so sure that Sally Yates did. I'm pretty sure she didn't. I believe that Comey
07:42knew then what we all know now and ignored it. I believe he withheld exculpatory information from
07:48the court because he wanted Trump to be found guilty. He wanted to destroy his presidency after
07:54he got elected. Strzok and Page tried to make sure Trump wouldn't be president. The memo from the Intel
08:00Committee in September 2016 was addressed to Comey suggesting Hillary Clinton was behind this
08:07and a copy went to Strzok. Did they take it seriously? I want to know that answer to that
08:12question. What a shame to have our most important law enforcement agency so politicized. Do you believe
08:19that there's more criminality here than we know from these two charges? And what do you make of the
08:25Comey case just getting assigned to a Biden appointed judge? Judge Michael Nachmanoff has the case.
08:33You know, I'm just going to assume the judge will do his job. I said five years ago in 2020,
08:39I was the chairman of the judiciary committee, all this stuff you see on TV. Ted did a great job.
08:44I asked him a bunch of questions about, are you telling me you don't remember getting an
08:50investigative memo from the CIA suggesting that Hillary Clinton's behind all this and that Trump
08:56may be a victim of a political attack? He said that doesn't ring a bell. Now we know in August,
09:04he was in the white house where they talked about this a couple months before he got the memo.
09:09Also in January, two FBI agents interviewed the Russian who gave still all this information
09:15about the golden shower and about all this corruption. That guy told two FBI agents in
09:20January of 2017, his bar talk is hearsay. So am I to believe that now you have a sitting president,
09:27the FBI had exculpatory information from the guy who prepared the dossier and it never made it up to
09:32the FBI director. The guy is the sitting president of the United States by January of 2017. This stinks to
09:38high heaven. I think there's criminality everywhere. You have a duty to inform the court when you find
09:44exculpatory information. You have a duty to investigate more than one potential outcome. The reason
09:51they didn't investigate, the reason they didn't disclose, the reason they leaked information is
09:56they're trying to take Donald Trump down. Remember when Strzok and Page talked to each other? Surely he won't
10:02win. I hope he loses a hundred million to nothing. I remember. We've got all of the of the, you know,
10:08the texts back and forth. But I wonder about this obstruction charge. Some people feel
10:14that the obstruction charge against Comey is even more powerful than the than the lying charge. So
10:20what do you think in terms of this second charge of obstruction? You've done a lot over this last
10:2510 years in terms of doing hearings, sending letters. Did they obstruct the case for you?
10:32Well, I think he lied to me and I said this in 2020. I went on TV that night. I do not believe that
10:39it did not ring a bell to him that he got a memo from the CIA saying that maybe Clinton's behind
10:45this. You're talking about the nominee for president on the Republican side, Donald Trump. You get a memo
10:50from the CIA, not some guy on the street saying, we have intel. This, this whole Russia stuff may be
10:56started by her campaign. She actually signed off on this plan. So I don't believe any of that,
11:02but it's up to a court of law to prove it. Here's what I think. I think obstruction was more than leaking
11:08classified information. I think the obstruction includes withholding its sculptor information
11:13to the FISA court where he had a duty to do it. I think the obstruction includes lying about the
11:19the grand conspiracy here. Not only, and I think the obstruction includes not investigating leads
11:25that could have exonerated Trump. They wanted Trump to be guilty. Every time they had information
11:30that it may not be him, they ignored it. They withheld it from the court. And when asked about it,
11:35they lied about their actions. I think this is much bigger than leaking classified information.
11:41All right. I want to move on to what you're doing now with Russia. But before I do,
11:44real quick, do you think there will be any other indictments in this?
11:49I think there's a conspiracy charge that could be made. Again, he's presumed innocent,
11:54but this obstruction goes well beyond leaking information, classified information. I think there
11:59was a effort to withhold exculpatory information, not to investigate credible leads that Trump may
12:06not have done this. And I think there was lying all over the place about it. And you got to remember,
12:11the document used to get warrants against Carter Page five times was produced by the Clinton campaign,
12:18bought and paid for. Can you imagine in this country, if a Democrat was being pursued and the
12:24document used to pursue that Democrat was paid for by the Republican party? Unbelievable. Senator,
12:30let me move on to your efforts to stop this war on Ukraine, Senator, in terms of Russia. You've had a
12:35bill now for a long time talking about the consequences on Russia. What are you going to do?
12:44Okay. I want to move this bill. Now, what did President Trump do a couple of a few days ago?
12:49He made a statement that I will sell to Europe, NATO, all the weapons Ukraine needs. They will buy
12:57them from us. This is a game changer. There's two things that need to happen to get Putin to the
13:02table, more weapons, American weapons for Ukraine and less oil money for Putin. So president put a
13:08tariff on India for buying cheap Russian oil. He's talking about going after China. The Europeans need
13:15to up their game. My bill with 85 co-sponsors would allow the president to impose tariffs on any country
13:22buying cheap Russian oil who does not help Ukraine. That's China, India, and Brazil. We don't set the
13:28tariff. He sets the tariff. He can modify it at his discretion, but we're going to give him the power
13:37to go after people who buy cheap Russian oil to break the bank in Russia. Without oil money and gas
13:43money, Putin can't continue the war. To my European allies, follow Trump's lead. What have you done to
13:50China and India? So this bill is going to pass, and we don't talk about this enough. There are 20,000
13:56Ukrainian children that have been kidnapped by Russian forces. They've been sent to indoctrination
14:02camps. They've been separated from their families, Putin's Russia. I want to make Russia a state
14:08sponsor of terrorism under U.S. law until they return these 20,000 children. So what am I going to
14:14do in October? Push the idea that Russia should be a state-sponsored terrorism under U.S. law,
14:20unless they return the children. Pass the bill that would give President Trump tariff authority,
14:25secondary tariffs against those who buy cheap Russian oil and gas. And why do I want to do that bill?
14:31To show the Europeans in the world that we're behind Trump, that we believe President Trump is on the
14:36right track to hold those accountable who buy cheap Russian oil to benefit their economy,
14:42that the Congress is with President Trump. To my European friends, you need to go after China and
14:47India. All right, great point there. Senator, we'll be watching your work on that for sure. Thanks so
14:52much for being here this morning. Senator Lindsey Graham, we'll have more on the indictment of former
14:58FBI Director Jim Comey in just a moment when I speak with the man who exposed it all. Many years ago,
15:03former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes. But first, Congress is facing a midnight
15:07deadline on Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, to fund the government or shut down. The Speaker of
15:12the House, Mike Johnson, and Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman are here with the hurdles Congress
15:18is facing as the clock ticks down toward a shutdown. That's next. We're less than 72 hours away from a
15:24shutdown of the federal government. Republicans are seeking a clean, continuing resolution to keep the
15:29government funded and open while Democrats want to extend subsidies for Obamacare. They are set to
15:34expire at the end of the year, as well as relaxing new rules that make it harder for states to enroll
15:40illegal immigrants into taxpayer funded health care. The Office of Management and Budget has instructed federal
15:45agencies to prepare for a permanent massive downsizing of government staff during a potential
15:51government shutdown, specifically targeting employees of programs that are not legally mandated to
15:56continue. The possible move comes as the national debt is at a record high, 37 and a half trillion
16:02dollars, with interest alone on that debt of over one trillion dollars, in large part due to the
16:07seven trillion in new spending under the Biden administration. Joining me now with the latest on
16:12where these talks stand is the Speaker of the House, Congressman Mike Johnson. Mr. Speaker,
16:17great to have you this morning. Thanks so much for being here. What are you expecting? I know you have
16:21an important meeting at the White House tomorrow. Do you think you'll be able to avoid a shutdown?
16:25Well, I certainly hope so. The purpose of the meeting is so that the president can assemble the four
16:31leaders, you know, the two top leaders in both chambers to come in and have this discussion.
16:35And I talked with him at length yesterday about this, and he's going to tell Chuck Schumer and
16:40Hakeem Jeffries to stop playing political games. What's really important to point out here, Maria,
16:44I'm glad you mentioned the national debt. You know, the statutes in federal law require Congress
16:50to do 12 separate appropriations bills every year. That's the only way to ensure stewardship of
16:55taxpayer funds, to spend less money and make government more responsible. The problem is,
16:59as you and I both know, and we've lamented before, Congress hasn't really worked that way in a long
17:03time. Typically, instead, what we have is a giant omnibus spending bill at the end of the year,
17:08because the can has kicked down the road all the way to that point. We've been forcing the muscle
17:13memory back, Maria. And the good news is we are at great length, great effort. We've got Congress to
17:19work again. The House Appropriations Committee did great work. They did 12 separate appropriations
17:24bills through the committee. Three were passed off the floor. Three bills were passed off the Senate
17:28floor. They don't match exactly. So for the first time since 2019, we have an actual conference committee
17:34between the two chambers to work out the differences. All this is working very well, but we need more time
17:39because the end of the fiscal year is September 30th. So what do we do? Logically, we passed a
17:44continuing resolution, a simple, very clean, 24-page continuing resolution to keep the government
17:51open for seven more weeks so the appropriators can finish that process. And what did Chuck Schumer
17:55do in exchange for that? He declined it. They voted against it. And he said, no, instead,
18:01I want to add $1.5 trillion in new spending to a seven-week stopgap bill. And I want to, as you mentioned,
18:08we want to reinstate free health care to illegal aliens paid for by U.S. taxpayer dollars. We want
18:13to call back the $50 billion that we passed, Republicans passed, in our big, beautiful bill,
18:19the working families tax cuts, to provide for rural hospital and health care and a laundry list
18:24of other partisan priorities. He knows it's a nonstarter. He's trying to, quote, show a fight
18:28against Trump, and it makes absolutely no sense. All the while, lawmakers left and right have been
18:34saying we've got to get back to pre-COVID spending. How do you get back to pre-COVID spending?
18:37When you're bringing some of those subsidies that were issued during COVID emergency?
18:43Well, we're not. I mean, the subsidies for Obamacare is an issue that would expire,
18:49those would expire at the end of the year. There's plenty of time for us to hash all that out.
18:53I'm not in favor of that. I think it's a bad policy. But that's not an issue for right now. Right now,
18:59we just need a stopgap funding measure to keep the government open so we can have those debates.
19:03They're trying to equate the issues and they're not being honest with the American people. There's
19:09one reason and one reason alone that Schumer and Jeffries are doing this. They're trying to show
19:13a fight. I think it's very important to point out there's no partisan provision in the CR. They have
19:18already voted for these exact levels of spending. We're just keeping the doors open, but they want
19:24to shut it. And you know what they're going to jeopardize? Troops pay. They're going to jeopardize
19:28WIC funding, Women, Infants and Children's Nutrition Program, FEMA services, telemedicine and
19:35telehealth, all the rest. They're going to jeopardize all that for a political stunt.
19:40And I just think it's reprehensible.
19:42Well, I know that Russ Vogt is drawing out the plans of who's essential and who isn't essential.
19:47How would you characterize the job cuts that will come in a government shutdown? And are those job
19:52cuts permanent? Well, so Russ Vogt has a challenge because he's the director of the Office of Management
20:00and Budget. And his job is to make very difficult decisions regarding personnel and the priorities of
20:07the government. If Chuck Schumer decides and Hakeem Jeffries Democrats decide to shut the government
20:11down, he's responsible for determining which services are essential, which employees are essential.
20:17And that's a big task. It's a burden that can easily be avoided if the Democrats will just apply
20:23common sense and do the right thing. But if they force that, you know, the results are going to be on
20:27them, not on Republicans. We don't want this. It's important to point out the president, Republicans in
20:32the Senate, Republicans in the House all agree that we should keep the government open and do the
20:36responsible thing. The Democrats are the ones trying to enforce this. So what's your sense of
20:41how significant those job cuts would be? Well, we'll have to see. I haven't seen all the specific
20:47plans yet. I know that the Office of Management and Budget is working really hard. But there are,
20:52you know, priorities of the government that we would all agree with that I'm sure Chuck Schumer doesn't.
20:57So he's walking his own plank here that he's created. You know, they've made that choice.
21:03And I think they're going to pay a political price for it. I'm wondering if there is an
21:07action forcing catalyst, which would be the November 1st Affordable Care Act open enrollment.
21:12So when you see the open enrollment, is that an opportunity for insurance companies to raise prices?
21:18And will that be used against the Republicans to say, well, look what's happening.
21:22Everybody's insurance is going up. Well, look, it's not impossible for us to to finish the job
21:30in October. That's the plan. Remember, having gotten three bills through the process and they'll
21:35be finished through the conference committee shortly, so long as we keep working, then you
21:38just have nine bills left. And our appropriators have rolled up their sleeves. They've worked
21:42heroically, frankly, this year. Six first six months of the of the congressional calendar this year
21:48was was basically absorbed with our getting our big bill done that the working families tax cut.
21:53And they had to have all hands on deck for that. But but since that time, they've been working
21:57around the clock to get the job done. I'm very optimistic that we can beat the November deadline
22:02and get all this finalized and finished. And so a lot of those unanswered questions would be resolved.
22:06But we again, we have to allow the appropriators to work in bipartisan fashion to do their job.
22:12And the only way to do that is keep the government open. And that's what's that's the big issue,
22:16the big question that Chuck Schumer has to answer. Leader Thune in the Senate is going to put the
22:20House bill, the CR on the floor again Monday, probably Tuesday. And and Chuck Schumer will
22:26have to vote it down each time. And he'll have to give some explanation to the people why he's doing
22:30it. There's there's no logical reason to do so. Well, it's incredible to me to look at this situation
22:35where there's no reason to do it. And yet they're going to fight Trump anyway. We're still in this
22:41point where the Democrats just want to appear tough like they're going against anything
22:46President Trump wants. Exactly. And they're defying logic to do it. I mean,
22:52that's the whole point. Chuck Schumer got in a lot of political trouble because the radical left base
22:58in the Democrat Party accused him of, you know, going along with Republicans. What Chuck Schumer was
23:05doing in March when he agreed to the government funding resolution was the responsible thing.
23:10He needs to do that again. This is the exact same scenario. He has to do the right thing.
23:15He is making a very selfish decision here. He's trying to give himself temporary political cover.
23:20The problem is he's painted himself in a corner. There's nowhere to go. And I just think it's
23:25shameful that they're playing politics with all the services that the American people demand and
23:29deserve. They're going to be they're going to be stopped troops. Think of it troops won't be paid
23:34because Chuck Schumer needs political cover. I mean, it's really that simple. And I think everybody's
23:38going to see that clearly. Wow. All right, Mr. Speaker, we'll be watching your work in the meeting
23:42tomorrow. What comes out of it? Thanks so much for walking us through it. Good to see you, sir.
23:49All right. Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. Up next, we will go to the upper chamber and across
23:52the aisle as we speak with Democrat Senator John Fetterman on the looming government shutdown as well
23:57as Israel's continued battle against Hamas and Gaza. Still to come, former House Intelligence
24:01Committee Chairman Devin Nunes with reaction to the indictment of former FBI Director Jim Comey. Stay with us.
24:11Vance fires back at Biden's criticism, calls his foreign policy a total disaster. VB Vance tells Fox
24:20News' Martha McCallum that he sees progress in Ukraine talks and global trade negotiations. Vice President
24:30J.D. Vance fired back at Joe Biden's new criticism of the infamous Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian
24:39President... Yeah, I'm going to say Zelensky because I know how to say his surname. Volodymyr.
24:47Volodymyr. Okay. Okay. I'll say Zelensky because that's easier.
24:51Vice President J.D. Vance fired back at Joe Biden's new criticism of the infamous Oval Office meeting
25:03with Ukrainian President Zelensky, dismissing the former Commander-in-Chief's foreign policy as a total
25:11disaster. I think it's rich for Joe Biden to comment on anything that we're doing when it comes to Russia
25:19and Ukraine's Vance on Thursday, told Fox News anchor Martha McCallum. On the story.
25:29Under Biden's administration, Russia launched the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. I wish Joe Biden
25:36the best. I don't really care what he has to say about American foreign policy because so much of what
25:42he actually did was a total disaster. In an interview with the BBC earlier this week, his first since
25:49leaving office in January, Biden called the President Donald Trump Vance meeting with Zelensky beneath America.
25:59In addition to addressing Biden's criticism, Vance reaffirmed the Trump administration's
26:05support for Ukrainian sovereignty but stood by earlier comments suggesting the US may scale back its role
26:12as lead negotiator in peace talks. We obviously want Ukraine to remain a sovereign country, he said.
26:20We knew that Russia's first offer would be too much. We knew that they would ask for more than was
26:27reasonable to give. That's how negotiations often work. I'm not bothered by that. What would bother me
26:35is if we conclude that the Russians are not engaging in the negotiation in good faith. And if that happens,
26:44yeah, we're going to walk away, said Vance.
26:48Despite a recent rejection of a ceasefire proposal by Russia, Vance struck a cautiously optimistic tone
26:57about the direction of peace talks. I actually think it's progress that they're even talking, he said.
27:04We're putting concrete peace plans on the table. Vance also addressed developments in global trade,
27:12touting the administration's first formal tariff agreement reached with the UK earlier this year.
27:19The Trump administration imposed a 10% reciprocal tariff on UK imports and additional tariffs on
27:26global products like steel and vehicles. Because of our long time history and allegiance together,
27:33it is a great honour to have the United Kingdom as our first announcement, Trump wrote on TruthSocial.
27:41Many other deals which are in serious stages of negotiation to follow.
27:48Vance said the UK was chosen first because of its openness and strong relationship with the
27:54current administration. As for China, which retaliated with steep tariffs of its own,
28:00Vance acknowledged the difficulty of rebalancing global trade but said the administration remains committed.
28:07We're going to have a conversation with them. We'll see where it leads, he said.
28:15We just want to deal with any country, whether it's China or anybody else, that makes American workers and
28:22American businesses in a better position. Vance continued saying he felt that the goal was very achievable.
28:31Turning to domestic issues, Vance discussed ongoing efforts under Doge even as its leader,
28:38Elon Musk, steps back from day-to-day involvement.
28:42Elon's not disappearing, Vance said.
28:45Nobody said that the work of Doge would only last 110 days, and that would be it.
28:51We think there's a lot more waste and fraud that we can find.
28:57He confirmed that Attorney General Pan Bondi is preparing investigations into potentially large-scale
29:04fraud, and that lawsuits could follow.
29:06I know that she's working on building the case against some of these people who have committed absolute fraud on the American people.
29:16You're going to see some of those prosecutions over the next few years, he said.
29:24When asked about the rumoured tension between himself and the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio,
29:30both of whom have been floated as potential Trump successors, Vance dismissed the idea.
29:40Marco is actually probably my best friend in the administration, he said.
29:45We hang out and talk all the time. He's doing a really good job, and of course I'm doing the best job that I can.
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