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00:00:00These reforms have been carried out with a focus on the common man.
00:00:07Every tax levied on common man's daily use items have gone through a rigorous looking into
00:00:15and in most cases the rates have come down drastically.
00:00:20Labor intensive industries have been given a good support.
00:00:23Both farmers and agriculture as a whole will also benefit by the decisions we have taken today.
00:00:31Health related also will benefit.
00:00:35So the key drivers of economy have been given a prominence.
00:00:39And much before I get into the details, I want to thank every member of the GST Council.
00:00:47Every finance minister who attended the GST Council today.
00:00:52There was no absence.
00:00:53Everyone was present.
00:00:55We've had a day-long intense discussion.
00:00:59But I'm grateful to each one of them.
00:01:03At the end of the day, they said, we're all together for the sake of the common man.
00:01:08And that's why I want to thank the people.
00:01:10I want to thank the members of the GST Council.
00:01:12We have to thank the members.
00:01:14I want to thank the members.
00:01:14And thank the members.
00:01:16I want to thank the members.
00:01:19common man and middle class items
00:01:39there is a complete
00:01:42reduction
00:01:43reduction from
00:01:4618 or from 12
00:01:48to 5%
00:01:50I list out those items
00:01:53all of whom have come to 5%
00:01:55from either 18 or from 12
00:01:57common man items such as
00:02:01hair oil, toilet soap, bars
00:02:03soap bars, shampoos, toothbrushes, toothpaste
00:02:07bicycles, tableware, kitchenware
00:02:09and other household articles
00:02:12have all come to 5
00:02:13whether they were in 18 or whether they were in 12
00:02:16similarly
00:02:18reduction of GST from 5% to nil
00:02:23paan se zero me jane wale items indicate kar rao
00:02:28ultra high temperature milk
00:02:30the UHT milk
00:02:32chena or paneer
00:02:34all the Indian breads will see nil rate
00:02:39so roti kisi ke oopar bhi chapati or roti or paratha or whatever it is
00:02:45they all come to nil
00:02:47reduction of GST from 12% or from 18% to 5
00:02:53ismene food items
00:02:54ismene food items bhoot saare hain
00:02:55namkeen se bujia hain
00:02:57sauces se pasta hai
00:02:59instant noodles se
00:03:01chocolates, coffee, preserved meat, cornflakes, butter, ghee
00:03:06yeh sab 5%
00:03:08yeh sab 5% mein aare hain
00:03:10from 12% or from 18% to 5
00:03:13ismene food items bhoot saare hain
00:03:16namkeen se bujia hain
00:03:18sauces se pasta hai
00:03:20instant noodles se
00:03:22chocolates, coffee, preserved meat, cornflakes, butter, ghee
00:03:26yeh sab 5% mein aare hain
00:03:29fir there is one special rate which is only for sin and super luxury goods
00:03:35that special rate of 40% has also been proposed and it is cleared
00:03:40that will apply only to paan masala, cigarettes gutga and other tobacco products such as chewing tobacco
00:03:49products like zarda, unmanufactured tobacco and bd
00:03:54ismene middle class ke aspirations meet karne waale bhoot saare chis hain
00:04:00air conditions
00:04:01air conditioning machines
00:04:04tvs which are over 32 inches
00:04:07all tvs now at 18%
00:04:11I want to underline
00:04:14all tvs are now at 18%
00:04:17dish washing machines
00:04:18small cars
00:04:20motorcycles
00:04:21equal to or less than 350 cc
00:04:24are all now coming to ET
00:04:26GST rate cuts are just around the corner
00:04:34making everyday spends
00:04:36from groceries to medicines cheaper
00:04:38as per finance minister nirmala sitaraman
00:04:40the rejig is expected to put nearly
00:04:422 lakh crore rupees
00:04:44back into the hands of the consumers
00:04:45but what does that mean for you
00:04:47as a family of four
00:04:48or as an individual consumer
00:04:49let's find out
00:04:51but it's important to note
00:04:52that these are just ET now estimates
00:04:53based on a survey internally conducted by us
00:04:56to help you understand what the setup of this survey is
00:04:59we've imagined three families across different income groups per month
00:05:03family A earns 28,000 rupees a month
00:05:06family B earns a monthly income of 1.5 lakh rupees
00:05:09and you have family C at the end
00:05:11that's earning a monthly income of 5 lakh rupees
00:05:13we'll track their spends and see what they are going to save
00:05:16after the September 22nd rate cuts are implemented
00:05:19now to give you a picture on the math that we've used
00:05:22here's the math to begin with
00:05:24grocery bills let's talk about that
00:05:26they now work out about 4% cheaper
00:05:28based on a KOTAC estimate
00:05:29for GST cut across categories that fall in this basket
00:05:33dining out let's talk about that
00:05:35that has gone from 12% to 5%
00:05:37which is a 7% saving
00:05:39entertainment such as movie tickets
00:05:41is unchanged at 18%
00:05:42so no benefits there
00:05:44telecom too
00:05:45no benefits over there as well
00:05:46on your telecom or your mobile phone bill
00:05:48medicines have become cheaper by 7%
00:05:51falling from 12% to 5%
00:05:53so that's the 7% savings on medicines
00:05:54that you can see over there
00:05:55for personal care
00:05:57items such as soaps and shampoos
00:05:58are down by about 10%
00:06:00once again based on a KOTAC estimate
00:06:02across categories in this basket
00:06:04and well yes
00:06:05the biggest relief is coming in
00:06:06on the life and health insurance premiums
00:06:09because they have been completely exempt from GST
00:06:12which means they were charged at 18% earlier
00:06:150% GST now
00:06:16which means the total saving for your insurance bill
00:06:18is straight up 18%
00:06:20let's begin with the families
00:06:22and take a look at their individual savings
00:06:24for family A
00:06:25let's start with the category of grocery
00:06:26and family A
00:06:27spends 4,000 rupees a month
00:06:29and now saves
00:06:30160 rupees a month
00:06:32when it comes to grocery
00:06:33so there you have it
00:06:344,000 rupees in spend
00:06:36160 rupees in saving
00:06:37that is the case coming in for family A
00:06:39family B now
00:06:41it saves 640 rupees
00:06:43after a spend of 16,000 crore rupees a month on grocery
00:06:46and family C spends 45,000 crore rupees
00:06:50and saves 1,800 in terms of groceries
00:06:53so the final saving here is 4%
00:06:56and those are the individual amounts
00:06:57that all the three families are saving
00:06:59accumulating up to 4% of their total bill
00:07:02next up let's take a look at dining out
00:07:04family A spends 2,000
00:07:06and saves 140 rupees per month
00:07:08family B is spending 4,500
00:07:10and saves 315
00:07:12and lastly family C
00:07:14spends 10,000 rupees a month
00:07:16and saves 700
00:07:17making the overall savings
00:07:197% for all these three families
00:07:21so there you can see it over there
00:07:23now let's move on to entertainment
00:07:24and talk about what's happening over there
00:07:26no change at all
00:07:27similar for telecom
00:07:28so no change when it comes to
00:07:30both of these categories
00:07:31coming to medicines now
00:07:33family A has no spend on medicines
00:07:35as of now
00:07:36we'll take a look at what family B is doing
00:07:38they're spending 4,000
00:07:39and saving 280
00:07:40family C spending 5,000 rupees
00:07:42and saving
00:07:43spending 5,000
00:07:44and saving a final amount of 350 rupees
00:07:47which brings the final cumulative amount
00:07:49for all these three families
00:07:50to a 7% saving
00:07:51moving on to the personal care category
00:07:54family A is spending 500
00:07:55and saving 50
00:07:56for family B
00:07:57it's a spend of 2,500
00:07:59and saving 250 rupees
00:08:01family C spends 5,000
00:08:02and saves 500 rupees
00:08:04and remember the final GST rate
00:08:06cut over here is 10%
00:08:08so that's the overall saving coming in
00:08:10now let's talk about the big category
00:08:12the biggest beneficiary coming in
00:08:14out of the entire GST ambit
00:08:16and that is insurance
00:08:17first up
00:08:18on health insurance
00:08:19when we poll these three families
00:08:21family A spends 12,50 rupees
00:08:23and saves 225 rupees
00:08:25you have family B
00:08:26that's spending 3,000 rupees
00:08:28and saving 5,40
00:08:29family C spends 6,500
00:08:31and saves 11,70
00:08:33which after doing the math
00:08:34remember 18% complete exemption
00:08:36so 18% is the saving
00:08:38and these are the individual amounts
00:08:39that all these three families
00:08:40are saving
00:08:41for health insurance premiums
00:08:43and lastly
00:08:43similarly for life insurance
00:08:44family A as of now
00:08:46has no spend
00:08:47but if you take a look at family B
00:08:48they spend 8,000
00:08:49and save 14,40
00:08:51family C spends 25,000
00:08:53per month
00:08:53on life insurance premium
00:08:55and save 45,00
00:08:57so the final saving here
00:08:58just as was the case
00:08:59with health insurance
00:09:00is 18%
00:09:01so across families A, B and C
00:09:04monthly savings
00:09:05let's take a look at
00:09:06what the overall
00:09:06monthly savings picture is
00:09:08that's the percentage saved
00:09:10anywhere between
00:09:116,500 to 7,8
00:09:12so 6,500 to 8%
00:09:14of monthly savings overall
00:09:15a meaningful cushion
00:09:17for household budgets
00:09:18now that money
00:09:19can easily flow
00:09:20into higher discretionary spending
00:09:22or investments
00:09:22like SIPs
00:09:23and equities
00:09:24in short
00:09:25the GST cut
00:09:26just got friendlier
00:09:27for you and your pocket
00:09:28big GST relief is here
00:09:40from September 22, 2025
00:09:43GST on individual health
00:09:45and life insurance premium
00:09:47has been reduced
00:09:48from 18% to 0
00:09:50let's quickly break down
00:09:52the top questions
00:09:53you might have
00:09:55so frequently asked question
00:09:57is
00:09:57though GST relief
00:09:59is on new premiums
00:10:00or renewal
00:10:01yes
00:10:02GST exemption
00:10:03applies to
00:10:04both new
00:10:05and renewal policies
00:10:06as long as
00:10:07your premium is due
00:10:08on or after
00:10:09September 22nd
00:10:11second frequently asked question
00:10:13already paid premium
00:10:14before 22nd September
00:10:16if you have paid
00:10:18your premium
00:10:18before September 22nd
00:10:20including GST
00:10:21sorry
00:10:22no refund
00:10:23the benefit starts
00:10:24only after the date
00:10:26third frequently asked question
00:10:28grace period renewal
00:10:30if I renew my policy
00:10:32in a grace period
00:10:33premium rate
00:10:34during the grace period
00:10:35before 22nd September
00:10:37won't qualify
00:10:39only those due
00:10:40on or after
00:10:41the GST free
00:10:43that is after
00:10:4422nd September
00:10:46fourth frequently asked question
00:10:48which policies are covered
00:10:50for the GST exemption
00:10:52so almost all individual policy
00:10:54which includes
00:10:54your health plan
00:10:55term plan
00:10:56unit plan
00:10:57endowment policy
00:10:59ulip policy
00:11:00family floater
00:11:01senior citizen plan
00:11:02even top up
00:11:04and riders
00:11:04are exempted
00:11:06from GST premium
00:11:07fifth frequently asked question
00:11:09is premium
00:11:09will come down
00:11:11immediately
00:11:12absolutely
00:11:12the GST component
00:11:14is removed
00:11:14so your base premium
00:11:16stays
00:11:16but the amount
00:11:18you pay
00:11:18is lower by 18%
00:11:20so
00:11:21another
00:11:22sixth frequently asked question
00:11:24is what about
00:11:25the group insurance
00:11:26so
00:11:26answer is
00:11:27no GST relief
00:11:28on your group policies
00:11:29like employer health
00:11:31cover
00:11:31the benefit is
00:11:32only for
00:11:33individual
00:11:34retail policy
00:11:35as announced
00:11:36by government
00:11:37seventh frequently asked
00:11:39question
00:11:39what about
00:11:40monthly AMI premium
00:11:41so no matter
00:11:42what
00:11:43the payment mode
00:11:44monthly
00:11:45quarterly
00:11:45or annual
00:11:46GST is waived
00:11:47if the due date
00:11:49is
00:11:49September
00:11:5022nd
00:11:51or later
00:11:51eighth frequently asked
00:11:53question
00:11:54is
00:11:54will premium
00:11:55still rise
00:11:55going ahead
00:11:56maybe
00:11:57base premium
00:11:58can still rise
00:11:59due to
00:12:00medical inflation
00:12:01but
00:12:0118%
00:12:02GST
00:12:03is
00:12:03permanently
00:12:04gone
00:12:05another important
00:12:06question
00:12:06is
00:12:07what happens
00:12:08to
00:12:08auto debit
00:12:09and ECS
00:12:10so no action
00:12:11needed
00:12:12your insurer
00:12:13will auto adjust
00:12:14and deduct
00:12:15the updated
00:12:16amount
00:12:16without
00:12:17GST
00:12:18so that's
00:12:20your quick
00:12:21guide to
00:12:21GST free
00:12:22insurance
00:12:23less tax
00:12:24more saving
00:12:25let me
00:12:27welcome
00:12:27Sandhya
00:12:28who is
00:12:28the
00:12:28group
00:12:29chief
00:12:29financial
00:12:30officer
00:12:31at
00:12:31Narayana
00:12:31health
00:12:32joining
00:12:32us
00:12:32on the
00:12:33show
00:12:33right now
00:12:33hi
00:12:34Sandhya
00:12:34morning
00:12:34and good
00:12:35to be
00:12:35speaking
00:12:35with you
00:12:36and firstly
00:12:36let's
00:12:37talk about
00:12:37your
00:12:38India
00:12:38business
00:12:38help us
00:12:39understand
00:12:39how is
00:12:40the quarter
00:12:40shaping up
00:12:41for you
00:12:42in terms
00:12:42of the
00:12:43occupancy
00:12:43growth
00:12:44and along
00:12:44with that
00:12:45Sandhya
00:12:45is the
00:12:46big
00:12:46GST rate
00:12:47announcement
00:12:48that has
00:12:48been made
00:12:49do you
00:12:50believe it
00:12:50can benefit
00:12:51the hospital
00:12:51sector
00:12:52in any way
00:12:52because there
00:12:53were cuts
00:12:54that were
00:12:54announced on
00:12:55medicine medical
00:12:55devices and
00:12:56as well
00:12:57good morning
00:13:00thank you for
00:13:01having me
00:13:02here
00:13:02so the
00:13:04hospital
00:13:05because you
00:13:06are aware
00:13:07in cyclical
00:13:07so q1
00:13:09and q3
00:13:11tends to
00:13:11be a
00:13:12little
00:13:12muted
00:13:13and q2
00:13:14and q4
00:13:15tends to
00:13:16be slightly
00:13:17more robust
00:13:18beyond that
00:13:20since the
00:13:20quarter is
00:13:21still underway
00:13:22I would not
00:13:23be able to
00:13:24share more
00:13:24information
00:13:25most of
00:13:26our growth
00:13:27continues to
00:13:27be organic
00:13:28no new
00:13:29capacity has
00:13:30gone wide
00:13:30therefore our
00:13:32growth will be
00:13:33in line with
00:13:33the organic
00:13:34growth that
00:13:34you can expect
00:13:35from the
00:13:36industry
00:13:36GST is a
00:13:38very welcome
00:13:39change
00:13:39for us if
00:13:41you look at
00:13:41it one
00:13:42aspect is the
00:13:43medicines
00:13:43it's fallen
00:13:44from 10% to
00:13:455%
00:13:46we buy
00:13:46about 500
00:13:47to 600
00:13:48700 crores
00:13:49of
00:13:50we sell
00:13:53about 600
00:13:53to 700
00:13:54crores of
00:13:55medicines in
00:13:57that category
00:13:57and all of
00:13:58them will
00:13:58benefit from
00:13:59the GST
00:14:00reduction
00:14:01in addition
00:14:03to that
00:14:03there will
00:14:04be some
00:14:05savings that
00:14:05we will see
00:14:06in the
00:14:06capex cycle
00:14:07as well as
00:14:08some savings
00:14:10in the
00:14:10medical
00:14:11equipment
00:14:11according to
00:14:14us the
00:14:15most important
00:14:16thing for
00:14:16healthcare is
00:14:17to be
00:14:17affordable
00:14:18and accessible
00:14:19and any
00:14:21measure that
00:14:21enables bring
00:14:22the price of
00:14:24healthcare down
00:14:25to the end
00:14:26consumer is
00:14:28very very
00:14:29welcome
00:14:29so I'm
00:14:31very sure
00:14:31that this
00:14:32will make
00:14:33healthcare
00:14:33little bit
00:14:34more affordable
00:14:35for our
00:14:36patients
00:14:47welcome to
00:14:50our
00:14:50expert speak
00:14:51segment on
00:14:52insurance mantra
00:14:53joining us
00:14:54today is
00:14:54Parth Nil
00:14:55Ghosh
00:14:55executive
00:14:56director
00:14:56HDFC
00:14:57Ergo
00:14:57General
00:14:58Insurance
00:14:58it's a
00:14:59pleasure to
00:14:59have you
00:15:00with us
00:15:01on the
00:15:01show today
00:15:02sir
00:15:02thank you
00:15:03so much
00:15:03I just
00:15:03want to
00:15:04begin with
00:15:04on the
00:15:05latest
00:15:05development
00:15:06in insurance
00:15:07industry
00:15:07that
00:15:07GST
00:15:08reduction
00:15:08so according
00:15:09to you
00:15:10how big
00:15:10is this
00:15:11development
00:15:11and how
00:15:12this will
00:15:13help in
00:15:13increasing
00:15:14insurance
00:15:14penetration
00:15:15first of
00:15:17all thank
00:15:18you Anurag
00:15:18and good
00:15:19morning
00:15:19as far
00:15:22as the
00:15:22GST
00:15:23this latest
00:15:24GST
00:15:25reduction
00:15:26is concerned
00:15:26first of
00:15:27all I
00:15:28would like
00:15:28to thank
00:15:29the
00:15:29government
00:15:29and GST
00:15:31council
00:15:32for ushering
00:15:33this
00:15:33extremely
00:15:35welcome
00:15:37move
00:15:38for
00:15:39at least
00:15:39for the
00:15:40insurance
00:15:40sector
00:15:41now
00:15:42health
00:15:42insurance
00:15:43premium
00:15:43we have
00:15:43been always
00:15:44demanding
00:15:44that the
00:15:45GST
00:15:46reduction
00:15:46should
00:15:46be
00:15:46there
00:15:47now
00:15:48an
00:15:4818%
00:15:49GST
00:15:49will
00:15:50come
00:15:50down
00:15:50to
00:15:50nil
00:15:51it
00:15:52means
00:15:52that
00:15:53for
00:15:53general
00:15:54citizens
00:15:55for common
00:15:55citizens
00:15:56Indians
00:15:56the reduction
00:15:58of the
00:15:58premium
00:15:59will be
00:15:59to the
00:15:59extent
00:16:00of
00:16:0018%
00:16:01what
00:16:01does
00:16:01it
00:16:01mean
00:16:02if
00:16:03the
00:16:03premium
00:16:03would
00:16:03have
00:16:04been
00:16:04100
00:16:04rupees
00:16:05previously
00:16:07or till
00:16:07date
00:16:07the GST
00:16:09is charged
00:16:0918 rupees
00:16:10it would
00:16:11have been
00:16:11118
00:16:12rupees
00:16:13from 22nd
00:16:14of September
00:16:15it will
00:16:15become
00:16:16100
00:16:16so
00:16:17at
00:16:17one
00:16:18stroke
00:16:19the
00:16:19affordability
00:16:20index
00:16:21of the
00:16:22Indian
00:16:22citizens
00:16:23on health
00:16:24insurance
00:16:24premium
00:16:24is going
00:16:25to go
00:16:26up by
00:16:26a few
00:16:26notches
00:16:27the
00:16:29GST
00:16:29removal
00:16:31of
00:16:31GST
00:16:31on
00:16:32the
00:16:32insurance
00:16:32individual
00:16:32insurance
00:16:33products
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00:22:32budget
00:22:32in
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00:22:34also
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00:22:36looking at
00:22:36a 79,600
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00:22:42rate card
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00:22:53about
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00:22:55all
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00:22:59playing
00:22:59out
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00:29:52who
00:29:52must
00:29:53be
00:29:53all
00:29:53smiles
00:29:53Rajesh
00:29:54E.D.N.C.O.
00:29:55auto
00:29:55and
00:29:56farm
00:29:56sector
00:29:56at
00:29:57M&M
00:29:57joining
00:29:57in
00:29:57the
00:29:58show
00:29:58right
00:29:58now
00:29:58Rajesh
00:29:59hi
00:29:59morning
00:29:59how is
00:30:00it
00:30:00that
00:30:00you're
00:30:00seeing
00:30:01this
00:30:01JST
00:30:01bazooka
00:30:02EV
00:30:03rate
00:30:03remains
00:30:03unchanged
00:30:04at
00:30:045%
00:30:05big push
00:30:05to
00:30:05demand
00:30:06you
00:30:06think
00:30:06yeah
00:30:08pleasure
00:30:09to be
00:30:10on the
00:30:10show
00:30:10and
00:30:11like
00:30:11you
00:30:11said
00:30:11yeah
00:30:11it's
00:30:12all
00:30:12good
00:30:12news
00:30:12everywhere
00:30:13we
00:30:13see
00:30:14every
00:30:15part
00:30:15of
00:30:15our
00:30:16portfolio
00:30:16gaining
00:30:17EV
00:30:18of course
00:30:19stays
00:30:19at
00:30:195%
00:30:20which
00:30:20is
00:30:20good
00:30:20news
00:30:20it
00:30:21reinforces
00:30:22the
00:30:23government's
00:30:24commitment
00:30:25to EV
00:30:25being the
00:30:26destination
00:30:26technology
00:30:27for the
00:30:28country
00:30:28so we
00:30:29glad
00:30:29that
00:30:30that's
00:30:30not
00:30:30been
00:30:31changed
00:30:32but
00:30:32every
00:30:33other
00:30:33part
00:30:33of
00:30:33our
00:30:34portfolio
00:30:34has
00:30:34seen
00:30:35a
00:30:35reduction
00:30:36tractors
00:30:37is a
00:30:38big
00:30:38part
00:30:38of
00:30:38our
00:30:38portfolio
00:30:39so
00:30:39that
00:30:39moves
00:30:40from
00:30:4012
00:30:40to
00:30:405
00:30:41and
00:30:42then
00:30:42of course
00:30:42CVs
00:30:43has
00:30:44seen
00:30:44a
00:30:44very
00:30:44big
00:30:45increase
00:30:4510%
00:30:46is a
00:30:46very
00:30:47good
00:30:47reduction
00:30:48in
00:30:48commercial
00:30:48segment
00:30:49and
00:30:49then
00:30:50every
00:30:50part
00:30:50of our
00:30:51SUV
00:30:51portfolio
00:30:51also
00:30:52gains
00:30:52between
00:30:538
00:30:53and
00:30:5413
00:30:54percent
00:30:54so
00:30:57overall
00:30:58very
00:30:58positive
00:30:58news
00:30:59and
00:30:59we're
00:30:59delighted
00:30:59and
00:31:00we
00:31:00think
00:31:00it'll
00:31:00be
00:31:00a
00:31:00big
00:31:01driver
00:31:01of
00:31:01growth
00:31:02for
00:31:02the
00:31:02economy
00:31:03and
00:31:03the
00:31:03business
00:31:03well
00:31:05indeed
00:31:05Rajesh
00:31:06great
00:31:06news
00:31:06coming
00:31:07again
00:31:07but
00:31:07Rajesh
00:31:0822nd
00:31:09September
00:31:10onwards
00:31:10where
00:31:11the
00:31:11new
00:31:11rates
00:31:12will
00:31:12be
00:31:12applicable
00:31:13from
00:31:13but
00:31:14for
00:31:14now
00:31:14some
00:31:15questions
00:31:15remains
00:31:16to be
00:31:16on
00:31:16what
00:31:17will
00:31:17happen
00:31:17to
00:31:17the
00:31:18CES
00:31:18if you
00:31:19can help
00:31:19us
00:31:19understand
00:31:20what about
00:31:20the
00:31:20compensation
00:31:21CES
00:31:22that is
00:31:22already
00:31:23in the
00:31:23books
00:31:23how do
00:31:24you see
00:31:24the clarity
00:31:25emerging
00:31:25on how
00:31:27that will
00:31:27be adjusted
00:31:28for the
00:31:28OEMs
00:31:29for the
00:31:30dealers
00:31:30as well
00:31:30yes
00:31:33in any
00:31:34transformation
00:31:35there are
00:31:36going to
00:31:36be some
00:31:36transition
00:31:37issues
00:31:37and this
00:31:38is one
00:31:39which is
00:31:39related to
00:31:40compensation
00:31:40CES
00:31:41which still
00:31:41needs some
00:31:42clarification
00:31:42we will
00:31:45be working
00:31:45through the
00:31:46industry
00:31:46body
00:31:47to take
00:31:48this up
00:31:48with the
00:31:49government
00:31:49and get
00:31:49clarity
00:31:50over the
00:31:50next few
00:31:51days
00:31:51but these
00:31:52are transition
00:31:52issues
00:31:53and I'm
00:31:53sure we'll
00:31:54work around
00:31:54that
00:31:55the overall
00:31:55picture is
00:31:56going to be
00:31:57a very
00:31:57positive
00:31:58demand
00:31:58boost
00:31:59and while
00:32:01we work
00:32:01on the
00:32:01transition
00:32:02issues
00:32:02you know
00:32:04we have
00:32:05to see the
00:32:06big picture
00:32:06which is
00:32:07very positive
00:32:07for your
00:32:18prime customers
00:32:19and this
00:32:19of course
00:32:19comes in
00:32:20at a time
00:32:20when the
00:32:21government
00:32:21has also
00:32:22introduced
00:32:23the bumper
00:32:23GST
00:32:24rate
00:32:25rationalization
00:32:25bazooka
00:32:26both in
00:32:26terms of
00:32:27slabs
00:32:27and of
00:32:27course
00:32:28the rate
00:32:28cuts
00:32:29that we
00:32:29have
00:32:29seen
00:32:29if you
00:32:31could
00:32:31give us
00:32:31a sense
00:32:32of how
00:32:32your
00:32:33sales
00:32:34are going
00:32:35to pan
00:32:35out
00:32:35especially
00:32:36as far
00:32:36as your
00:32:37expectations
00:32:37are concerned
00:32:38in tier 2
00:32:38and 3
00:32:38towns and
00:32:39cities
00:32:39versus
00:32:40the urban
00:32:41metros
00:32:41the kind
00:32:42of categories
00:32:42that will
00:32:43particularly
00:32:43see a boost
00:32:44as a result
00:32:45of this
00:32:45policy move
00:32:46I think
00:32:46even before
00:32:47that
00:32:48our focus
00:32:49if you look
00:32:49at where
00:32:50are we
00:32:50expanding
00:32:50our network
00:32:51tier 2
00:32:52and tier 3
00:32:52cities
00:32:53have been
00:32:53focused
00:32:53like
00:32:54if you
00:32:54people like
00:32:55hublee
00:32:56and
00:32:56vizag
00:32:57and
00:32:57kochi
00:32:58are some
00:32:58of the
00:32:58cities
00:32:59that we
00:32:59are building
00:33:00or expanding
00:33:00our network
00:33:01into
00:33:01because we
00:33:02didn't have
00:33:02very fast
00:33:03delivery to
00:33:03those cities
00:33:04so we are
00:33:04going to
00:33:04expand that
00:33:05so even
00:33:06before
00:33:06even for
00:33:07prime day
00:33:08for example
00:33:08most of
00:33:09our new
00:33:10prime customers
00:33:11that we
00:33:11signed up
00:33:12came from
00:33:13these smaller
00:33:13towns and
00:33:14cities
00:33:14so we are
00:33:15seeing
00:33:15adoption of
00:33:17e-commerce
00:33:17and people
00:33:18coming online
00:33:19and shopping
00:33:20online
00:33:20across the
00:33:21country
00:33:22especially from
00:33:22tier 2
00:33:23tier 3
00:33:23cities
00:33:24in terms
00:33:24of
00:33:25GST
00:33:25changes
00:33:25we are
00:33:26really
00:33:26excited
00:33:26about
00:33:27like
00:33:27it
00:33:27came
00:33:27at
00:33:28the
00:33:28right
00:33:28time
00:33:28and
00:33:29hopefully
00:33:29it will
00:33:30spur
00:33:30consumption
00:33:30but we are
00:33:31also very
00:33:32hopeful
00:33:33about how
00:33:34it's going
00:33:34to help
00:33:35the seller
00:33:35the GST
00:33:36council
00:33:36met
00:33:36there's not
00:33:37just about
00:33:38the reduction
00:33:40in the rate
00:33:40the slab
00:33:41rate
00:33:41but also
00:33:42how much
00:33:43the government
00:33:44has listened
00:33:45to us
00:33:46around
00:33:47let's make
00:33:48the life
00:33:49of selling
00:33:49online
00:33:50easier
00:33:50for all
00:33:51our sellers
00:33:51so if you
00:33:52go into
00:33:52the details
00:33:53there's so
00:33:54many of
00:33:54those
00:33:54changes
00:33:55that we
00:33:56are excited
00:33:56about
00:33:57which will
00:33:57make the
00:33:57life of a
00:33:58small medium
00:33:59business
00:33:59selling online
00:34:00much easier
00:34:01and I'm really
00:34:01excited about
00:34:02the long term
00:34:02impact of
00:34:03those changes
00:34:03big developments
00:34:15as far as
00:34:16the GST
00:34:16rate
00:34:17rationalisation
00:34:17is concerned
00:34:18because clearly
00:34:19the implementation
00:34:20of the same
00:34:20is just around
00:34:21the corner
00:34:22and customers
00:34:23have halted
00:34:24their purchases
00:34:24awaiting that
00:34:25GST
00:34:26particular relief
00:34:27now
00:34:27Bizom
00:34:28believes that
00:34:29discretionaries
00:34:30may see
00:34:30further
00:34:31uptick
00:34:31once the
00:34:33GST
00:34:33takes effect
00:34:34what will
00:34:34that look
00:34:35like
00:34:35well Snehi
00:34:36joins in
00:34:37with what
00:34:37we're likely
00:34:38expecting as
00:34:39far as that
00:34:39is concerned
00:34:40let's listen
00:34:40let's take a
00:34:43look at
00:34:44what the
00:34:45expectations
00:34:45are coming
00:34:46in on the
00:34:47back of
00:34:48this GST
00:34:49rate
00:34:49rationalisation
00:34:50that has
00:34:50happened
00:34:50and a lot
00:34:51of pushing
00:34:51of consumer
00:34:52demand is
00:34:53what we've
00:34:53seen
00:34:53because
00:34:54naturally
00:34:54people who
00:34:54want to
00:34:55make bigger
00:34:55purchases
00:34:56of white
00:34:56goods
00:34:56or consumer
00:34:57durables
00:34:57they are
00:34:58waiting until
00:34:59this 22nd
00:34:59August deadline
00:35:00for that to
00:35:01happen
00:35:01so if you
00:35:02take a look
00:35:03at what
00:35:03this delay
00:35:04is and
00:35:04we've got
00:35:05the view
00:35:05coming in
00:35:05from Bizom
00:35:06wherein they're
00:35:06saying that
00:35:07consumer delaying
00:35:08purchases near
00:35:09to the festivities
00:35:09because they're
00:35:10waiting for
00:35:10the GST
00:35:11relief
00:35:11more consumption
00:35:12uptick is
00:35:13expected in
00:35:13discretionary
00:35:14purchases
00:35:14post the
00:35:15GST relief
00:35:16implementation
00:35:16that is on
00:35:17the 22nd
00:35:18of this month
00:35:19consumer durables
00:35:20home appliances
00:35:21building materials
00:35:22fashion should
00:35:22see an immediate
00:35:23uptick post the
00:35:2422nd that's the
00:35:25word coming in
00:35:25from them
00:35:26for biscuits
00:35:27and snacks
00:35:27now they say
00:35:28that there has
00:35:28been a GST
00:35:29relief of 7
00:35:30to 13%
00:35:30but they're not
00:35:32seeing any delay
00:35:32in purchases
00:35:33because of course
00:35:33these are consumer
00:35:34staples and are
00:35:35required on an
00:35:35everyday basis
00:35:36they however see
00:35:37double digit growth
00:35:38around 12%
00:35:39in August is
00:35:40worth estimating
00:35:41that the growth
00:35:41for this category
00:35:42could have been
00:35:43shifting focus to
00:35:44home appliances
00:35:45and kitchen wear
00:35:45now this includes
00:35:46your larger white
00:35:47goods like ACs
00:35:48TVs
00:35:49refrigerators
00:35:49where we have
00:35:50seen significant
00:35:51GST cuts
00:35:51happening
00:35:52so there seems
00:35:53to be a pushback
00:35:53in these categories
00:35:54for now
00:35:55for kitchen appliances
00:35:56sales have
00:35:57slowed down
00:35:5720% on a year
00:35:58on year basis
00:35:59compared to the
00:35:59last time
00:36:00this year
00:36:01because people
00:36:02are waiting
00:36:02for the GST
00:36:03incentives to
00:36:04kick in
00:36:04and for kitchen
00:36:05appliances and
00:36:06electronics
00:36:06if you put both
00:36:07of them together
00:36:07there is a cut
00:36:08of 25%
00:36:09on a year
00:36:10on year basis
00:36:10now if you compare
00:36:11the month on month
00:36:12data across certain
00:36:13categories where
00:36:14we have seen
00:36:15spending in the
00:36:16previous month
00:36:16but a slow down
00:36:17in this month
00:36:18it's names like
00:36:19chocolates and
00:36:19confectionery
00:36:20big drop in fact
00:36:21coming over here
00:36:21because the festive
00:36:22period came early
00:36:23this time
00:36:23so all the buying
00:36:25got pre-poned
00:36:26to the July period
00:36:27oil, rice, sugar,
00:36:28spices
00:36:29so the overall
00:36:29kitchen commodities
00:36:30they have also
00:36:31seen a drop
00:36:32home care has seen
00:36:33a very big drop
00:36:33because people are
00:36:34waiting for that
00:36:35GST relief to
00:36:36kick in
00:36:36and FMCG
00:36:37overall as well
00:36:38across India
00:36:39has seen a drop
00:36:40from 8.6%
00:36:41to 7.5%
00:36:43in terms of
00:36:43value growth
00:36:44so that's the word
00:36:45coming in from
00:36:46Bizom and that's
00:36:47the outlook
00:36:47on how the trends
00:36:49have been shaping up
00:36:50and of course
00:36:50we've been bringing
00:36:51you all of this
00:36:52live from the
00:36:52SBI live studio
00:36:53with the GST rates
00:36:55coming into effect
00:36:56from the 22nd of
00:36:57September
00:36:57FMCG companies
00:36:58have gone ahead
00:36:59and decided to
00:37:00take some measures
00:37:01to reduce prices
00:37:02and increase
00:37:03grammages for their
00:37:04products
00:37:04we've gathered
00:37:05from exclusive
00:37:06sources that
00:37:07Nestle and ITC
00:37:08are going to be
00:37:08passing on these
00:37:09benefits to their
00:37:10customers in the
00:37:11form of price cuts
00:37:12speaking specifically
00:37:13about Nestle
00:37:15what sources tell us
00:37:16is that they will
00:37:17be taking in some
00:37:18price cuts for the
00:37:20larger packs
00:37:20and increasing the
00:37:22grammages for the
00:37:23smaller packs
00:37:23now Maggi,
00:37:24coffee, chocolate,
00:37:25milk all of these
00:37:26products are going
00:37:27to get cheaper
00:37:28Maggi for example
00:37:29for the larger pack
00:37:30of 280 grams
00:37:31they are going to
00:37:32increase the grammage
00:37:33to 300 grams
00:37:34and also reduce
00:37:35the price for that
00:37:35SKU from 60 rupees
00:37:37to 58 rupees
00:37:38as for the other
00:37:39variants of the
00:37:40noodles there is
00:37:40going to be about
00:37:41a 6% price reduction
00:37:42there talking about
00:37:44coffee, Nest Cafe
00:37:45for all packs
00:37:45larger than 45 grams
00:37:47they are going to
00:37:47be taking in some
00:37:48price reductions
00:37:48around 11% roughly
00:37:50and the grammage
00:37:51increases will be
00:37:52taken in for the
00:37:54SKUs that are
00:37:54less than 45 grams
00:37:56the ready to drink
00:37:57beverages will also
00:37:58see a 5 rupee
00:37:59price reduction
00:38:00on the Tetra packs
00:38:01and the ultra high
00:38:03temperature milk
00:38:03or the Tetra pack
00:38:04milk the 1 liter
00:38:05will see a 3 rupee
00:38:07price reduction
00:38:07other than this
00:38:08we are also gathering
00:38:09from sources at
00:38:10ITC that they are
00:38:11in the process of
00:38:12formulating a final
00:38:13price list given
00:38:15the huge number of
00:38:17SKUs that is taking
00:38:18some time
00:38:18but in the meanwhile
00:38:19they have communicated
00:38:20to distributors
00:38:21and retailers
00:38:22about the discount
00:38:23schemes that they
00:38:24will be running
00:38:25for the existing
00:38:27stock
00:38:27now this is being
00:38:28done to ensure
00:38:29that post 22nd
00:38:30September there is
00:38:31parity in the
00:38:32prices of the
00:38:33older stock and
00:38:34the newer stock
00:38:35with new prices
00:38:36that will be sent
00:38:37to them
00:38:38these rejects
00:38:39they will be
00:38:40impact on the
00:38:41earnings of FMCG
00:38:42basket per se
00:38:43what is your
00:38:44analysis how much
00:38:45of this consumption
00:38:46boost will help
00:38:48these companies
00:38:49yeah see first
00:38:51of course if you
00:38:53see the government
00:38:54intent is that
00:38:56companies should
00:38:57pass it on to
00:38:58customers fully
00:38:59so my sense is
00:39:01initially FMCG
00:39:02companies will
00:39:03look to pass it
00:39:04to end customer
00:39:05at a portfolio
00:39:06level fully to
00:39:07the customer
00:39:08so to that extent
00:39:10the benefit for
00:39:11FMCG companies
00:39:12will be more in
00:39:13terms of the
00:39:14operating leverage
00:39:15as I said
00:39:16in food like
00:39:18biscuits and
00:39:19snacks it will
00:39:20be a real
00:39:20consumption boost
00:39:21because in
00:39:23these categories
00:39:23almost 50-60%
00:39:25of the consumption
00:39:26happens at
00:39:275-10-rupee
00:39:28price point
00:39:29and customer
00:39:29buys a pack
00:39:30he doesn't
00:39:31buy X grams
00:39:32of biscuit
00:39:33or X grams
00:39:34of Bhujia
00:39:35or Namkeem
00:39:36so in such
00:39:36cases if the
00:39:38biscuit company
00:39:39is offering
00:39:3912-13% extra
00:39:40gramage or the
00:39:42Bhujia company
00:39:42is offering
00:39:4367% extra
00:39:44Bhujia
00:39:44that's a real
00:39:46consumption boost
00:39:47so I would say
00:39:48that yes
00:39:48there will be
00:39:49I think 2-5%
00:39:512-6%
00:39:52kind of a
00:39:53EBITDA
00:39:53boost for
00:39:54many companies
00:39:55because of
00:39:55these reasons
00:39:56because this
00:39:56is an operating
00:39:57leverage kind
00:39:58of benefit
00:39:58here we are
00:39:59assuming that
00:39:59companies are
00:40:00fully passing
00:40:01it on to
00:40:02the end
00:40:02customer
00:40:02but I would
00:40:03say that
00:40:04currently there
00:40:04is 2 kind
00:40:05of lack
00:40:06of clarity
00:40:06for consumer
00:40:07companies
00:40:08one is what
00:40:09happens to
00:40:10the inverter
00:40:10duty structure
00:40:11because some
00:40:12of the raw
00:40:13material is
00:40:13still at 18%
00:40:14kind of a
00:40:15GST rate
00:40:16the services
00:40:17are at 18%
00:40:18GST rate
00:40:19so if the
00:40:19end product
00:40:20is at 5%
00:40:21and the service
00:40:21and some
00:40:22of the RM
00:40:22is at 18%
00:40:24full offset
00:40:25won't be
00:40:25possible
00:40:26yes refund
00:40:27is a mechanism
00:40:29but please
00:40:29note for
00:40:30service
00:40:30the refund
00:40:30is not
00:40:31available
00:40:31so there
00:40:32is this
00:40:33bit of
00:40:33challenge
00:40:33the second
00:40:34bit of
00:40:34challenge
00:40:35is some
00:40:35of the
00:40:36factories
00:40:37of the
00:40:37FMCG
00:40:38companies
00:40:38get mega
00:40:39project benefit
00:40:40they get
00:40:40some fiscal
00:40:41benefit
00:40:41now again
00:40:42those will
00:40:43continue
00:40:44but issue
00:40:44is again
00:40:45at the
00:40:45SGST rate
00:40:46of 2.5%
00:40:48because
00:40:49the total
00:40:50rate
00:40:51new rate
00:40:51of GST
00:40:52is 5%
00:40:52so SGST
00:40:53is where
00:40:54they get
00:40:54a refund
00:40:55at such
00:40:56a low
00:40:57GST rate
00:40:57they will
00:40:58not be
00:40:58able to
00:40:58fully use
00:40:59it
00:40:59so in
00:41:00such cases
00:41:00state
00:41:01governments
00:41:01will have
00:41:02to extend
00:41:02the tenure
00:41:03now there
00:41:04is no
00:41:04full clarity
00:41:05because these
00:41:05are discussions
00:41:06which are
00:41:06yet to happen
00:41:07thanks so
00:41:08much for
00:41:08joining us
00:41:09with all
00:41:09those details
00:41:10but shifting
00:41:11focus and
00:41:11as promised
00:41:12let's put
00:41:12the spotlight
00:41:13on India's
00:41:13dairy sector
00:41:14then
00:41:14and GST
00:41:15on several
00:41:16dairy products
00:41:16has either
00:41:17been reduced
00:41:17from 12%
00:41:18to 5%
00:41:19or it has
00:41:20been cut
00:41:20from 5%
00:41:21to 0%
00:41:22what impact
00:41:23will this
00:41:23have on
00:41:24volumes
00:41:24to understand
00:41:25exactly that
00:41:26we are now
00:41:26joined by
00:41:27Manish Bandlish
00:41:28managing director
00:41:29at Mother
00:41:29Dairy
00:41:30Manish
00:41:30afternoon
00:41:31and thank
00:41:31you so
00:41:31much for
00:41:32taking your
00:41:32time out
00:41:33and joining
00:41:33us here
00:41:34on ET
00:41:34now
00:41:34GST
00:41:35has been
00:41:36cut by
00:41:36the government
00:41:37and I
00:41:37believe
00:41:37you have
00:41:38also
00:41:38passed
00:41:38it on
00:41:39completely
00:41:39to the
00:41:40end
00:41:41consumer
00:41:41this will
00:41:42come into
00:41:42effect
00:41:42on the
00:41:4322nd
00:41:43of
00:41:44September
00:41:44but before
00:41:45that if you
00:41:46can tell us
00:41:46what kind
00:41:47of volume
00:41:48growth are
00:41:48you expecting
00:41:49on account
00:41:49of this
00:41:50GST cut
00:41:51on several
00:41:51dairy products
00:41:52thank you
00:41:54Ashisha for
00:41:54having me on
00:41:55this program
00:41:55I think
00:41:56this whole
00:41:57initiative by the
00:41:57government of
00:41:58India to
00:41:58reduce GST
00:41:59on consumer
00:42:00products
00:42:00is a very
00:42:01very welcome
00:42:02step
00:42:02especially for
00:42:03the dairy
00:42:03sector
00:42:04and this
00:42:05will give
00:42:06a fillip
00:42:07not only
00:42:07to the
00:42:07consumption
00:42:08it will
00:42:09also give
00:42:09a fillip
00:42:10to the
00:42:10farmer
00:42:10income
00:42:11in the
00:42:11long run
00:42:11and the
00:42:12medium
00:42:12term
00:42:12to give
00:42:13an example
00:42:13our
00:42:15organized
00:42:16sector
00:42:16in India
00:42:17is only
00:42:1835-40%
00:42:20if you
00:42:21look at
00:42:21all the
00:42:22products
00:42:22combined
00:42:23we expect
00:42:25basis
00:42:25this
00:42:25more
00:42:26affordability
00:42:26will happen
00:42:27in the
00:42:28dairy
00:42:28products
00:42:28and over
00:42:29the next
00:42:296 months
00:42:31to a year
00:42:32at least
00:42:3310-15%
00:42:34extra
00:42:34growth
00:42:35is likely
00:42:35to come
00:42:35on most
00:42:36of the
00:42:36value added
00:42:37products
00:42:37especially
00:42:37and this
00:42:39will give
00:42:39a much
00:42:40required
00:42:41fillip
00:42:41to the
00:42:42dairy sector
00:42:43in terms
00:42:43of growth
00:42:44for all
00:42:45the value
00:42:45added
00:42:45products
00:42:45understood
00:42:46so 10-15%
00:42:48volume
00:42:48growth
00:42:48that's
00:42:49the kind
00:42:49of growth
00:42:49that you
00:42:50are expecting
00:42:50on account
00:42:51of GST
00:42:51reduction
00:42:52but Manish
00:42:53if you can
00:42:54tell us
00:42:54how will
00:42:54it help
00:42:55the entire
00:42:56ecosystem
00:42:57I understand
00:42:58end consumers
00:42:58will consume
00:42:59more especially
00:43:00in tier 2
00:43:01and tier 3
00:43:01cities on account
00:43:02of reduction
00:43:03in GST
00:43:03but from scratch
00:43:05from farmers
00:43:06how will it
00:43:07help the entire
00:43:07ecosystem
00:43:08I'll start
00:43:10with the
00:43:10consumer
00:43:10so let's
00:43:11take an
00:43:11example of
00:43:12a paneer
00:43:12or a ghee
00:43:13or a bata
00:43:13these are
00:43:14very popular
00:43:15categories
00:43:15when the
00:43:16consumer is
00:43:17consuming
00:43:17a paneer
00:43:18for example
00:43:18is only
00:43:19not more than
00:43:204-5%
00:43:21organized
00:43:22today
00:43:22when paneer
00:43:24becomes more
00:43:24affordable
00:43:24for the
00:43:25consumer
00:43:25and if they
00:43:26start consuming
00:43:27more of that
00:43:28paneer
00:43:28because it
00:43:29is coming
00:43:29from
00:43:29well-known
00:43:30brand like
00:43:30Mother Dairy
00:43:31who is
00:43:31focusing on
00:43:32quality
00:43:33then I'll
00:43:34need more
00:43:35and more
00:43:35of milk
00:43:35to make
00:43:36that paneer
00:43:38and other
00:43:40associated
00:43:40categories like
00:43:41ghee, butter
00:43:41or ice cream
00:43:42if I need
00:43:43more milk
00:43:44I have to go
00:43:45back to my
00:43:45farmers
00:43:45I have more
00:43:47than 10 lakh
00:43:47farmers
00:43:48connected to
00:43:48our dairy
00:43:49ecosystem
00:43:49in our
00:43:50system
00:43:50which means
00:43:52I will need
00:43:52more milk
00:43:53from the
00:43:53farmers
00:43:53which means
00:43:54the farmer
00:43:55will get
00:43:56motivated
00:43:56to keep
00:43:57more cattle
00:43:58which means
00:43:59their income
00:43:59will increase
00:44:00further
00:44:00so this is
00:44:01the ecosystem
00:44:02I'm talking
00:44:02about
00:44:03they'll get
00:44:03more
00:44:04I will have
00:44:05to buy
00:44:06or I will
00:44:07buy more
00:44:07milk from
00:44:08the farmers
00:44:08and they'll
00:44:09get a good
00:44:10price for
00:44:10their production
00:44:11so this whole
00:44:12dairy ecosystem
00:44:13will get a
00:44:14fillip
00:44:15is how
00:44:16I see it
00:44:17understood
00:44:18the entire
00:44:19dairy ecosystem
00:44:20is likely to
00:44:20get a fillip
00:44:21and you're
00:44:21expecting strong
00:44:22double digit
00:44:23volume growth
00:44:24on account of
00:44:24this
00:44:25now that's
00:44:25a big figure
00:44:26but I understand
00:44:27GST on several
00:44:28farm equipments
00:44:29has also been
00:44:30lowered
00:44:30how do you
00:44:31expect this
00:44:32to aid
00:44:33farmer community
00:44:34at large
00:44:34and ultimately
00:44:35aid volume
00:44:36growth further
00:44:36see
00:44:38like I said
00:44:39once the
00:44:40farmer gets
00:44:41benefit
00:44:41for example
00:44:42a tractor
00:44:42if the GST
00:44:43has been reduced
00:44:44it will become
00:44:44more affordable
00:44:45for the farmer
00:44:46they can easily
00:44:46invest in those
00:44:47farm equipments
00:44:48they can easily
00:44:49invest into
00:44:50their technology
00:44:51which they may
00:44:52not have been
00:44:53able to do
00:44:53today
00:44:53so I think
00:44:54overall
00:44:55affordability
00:44:56at the farmer
00:44:57level
00:44:57income increasing
00:44:58at the other
00:44:59end
00:44:59will immediately
00:45:01help the
00:45:01farmers in the
00:45:02medium to
00:45:02long term
00:45:03being able to
00:45:04afford these
00:45:05products
00:45:05at a much
00:45:06larger scale
00:45:06so several
00:45:08GST reductions
00:45:09not only for
00:45:09agri products
00:45:10but for allied
00:45:11businesses
00:45:11and farm
00:45:12equipments
00:45:13in particular
00:45:13that is also
00:45:14likely to aid
00:45:15the entire
00:45:15community
00:45:16and the
00:45:16rural market
00:45:17sir thank you
00:45:18so much for
00:45:19taking your
00:45:19time out
00:45:20and joining
00:45:20us here on
00:45:20ET now
00:45:21and helping
00:45:21us understand
00:45:22how the
00:45:22GST reduction
00:45:23on dairy
00:45:24products is
00:45:25likely to aid
00:45:26volume growth
00:45:26for the entire
00:45:27sector
00:45:27thanks so much
00:45:28for joining
00:45:28us today
00:45:29on that note
00:45:30we need to
00:45:31slip into a
00:45:31very short
00:45:31break
00:45:32but our
00:45:32coverage on
00:45:33commodities
00:45:34will continue
00:45:34on the other
00:45:35side
00:45:35all right
00:45:46so essentially
00:45:47manjuri you're
00:45:48referring to
00:45:49you know you
00:45:50being the
00:45:51company being
00:45:51hopeful of
00:45:52demand outlook
00:45:53but in terms of
00:45:53numbers what's
00:45:54the kind of
00:45:54growth that you're
00:45:55anticipating and
00:45:56looking at with
00:45:57respect to the
00:45:57festive season this
00:45:58year given the
00:45:59GST benefits for
00:46:00hotel benefits
00:46:01have also been
00:46:01announced sure so
00:46:04industry if you
00:46:05look at today is
00:46:06early single digit
00:46:07right and
00:46:08especially after the
00:46:09geopolitical
00:46:10situations etc which
00:46:11is behind us
00:46:12thankfully we did
00:46:13see a slowdown we
00:46:15are hoping and we
00:46:17are very confident
00:46:18that this year
00:46:18festive will come
00:46:20to us with a
00:46:21double digit growth
00:46:22and if industry is
00:46:23growing and today
00:46:23we grow almost
00:46:253x of industry
00:46:26and if industry
00:46:27starts to grow
00:46:28much faster and
00:46:29if we keep the
00:46:30momentum and the
00:46:31scale that we
00:46:32have from industry
00:46:33today that is the
00:46:34growth that we are
00:46:35wanting to achieve
00:46:36in the festive
00:46:37season GST comes
00:46:39with a blessing I
00:46:40feel that while air
00:46:42travel has not been
00:46:43directly impacted and
00:46:44hotel has been in
00:46:46general spending in
00:46:47India should go up
00:46:48and that is the
00:46:49attempt of the
00:46:50government and we
00:46:50feel that given
00:46:51travel has been one
00:46:53of the critical
00:46:54places where people
00:46:55like to spend we
00:46:57feel that the
00:46:57resident effect on
00:46:59people stepping out
00:47:00and traveling will
00:47:01will already be
00:47:02there in terms of
00:47:03hotel we are very
00:47:04very confident that
00:47:05the GST reduction
00:47:06will help us reach
00:47:08the belly of the
00:47:09market the mass
00:47:10India and they
00:47:11will hopefully upgrade
00:47:12and want to book
00:47:13more hotels
00:47:14to answer all those
00:47:24questions that we
00:47:25have with us a
00:47:25stellar panel
00:47:26Harsh Rungta
00:47:27founder fee-only
00:47:29investment advisors
00:47:30we also have
00:47:31Madhvi Arora
00:47:32lead economist
00:47:33MK Global
00:47:34and joining
00:47:35with us
00:47:36Avneesh Roy
00:47:37executive director
00:47:39Novama
00:47:39institutional equities
00:47:41Madhvi I want to
00:47:42come to you first
00:47:43how much of the
00:47:45impact of this
00:47:46cut or
00:47:48rationalization
00:47:49will have on
00:47:50economy per se
00:47:51because that is
00:47:51the pertinent
00:47:52question which all
00:47:53the stakeholders
00:47:54are asking
00:47:54so we have to
00:47:57see it from two
00:47:58points right
00:47:59one would be the
00:48:00balancing impact
00:48:00on the government
00:48:01of India and the
00:48:02balancing impact
00:48:03on the household
00:48:04from the government's
00:48:05point of view
00:48:05they are suggesting
00:48:07that they will be
00:48:07bearing a loss of
00:48:08nearly 500 million
00:48:09rupees which is
00:48:11around you know
00:48:13less than 0.2
00:48:14percent of GDP
00:48:15and that is coming
00:48:16from the loss
00:48:16that they would
00:48:17incur because of
00:48:18the cuts in GST
00:48:19to the tune of
00:48:19around 938 billion
00:48:20and the net gain
00:48:23that they would
00:48:23make by you know
00:48:24implementing the
00:48:25syntax which would
00:48:26be closer to
00:48:27450 billion
00:48:27so net-net
00:48:28they are losing
00:48:29in their balance
00:48:30sheet roughly
00:48:31around 480
00:48:32to 500 billion
00:48:33which is less
00:48:34than 0.2
00:48:35percent of GDP
00:48:35on the other
00:48:36hand from the
00:48:38household perspective
00:48:38point of view
00:48:39whatever is the
00:48:40loss of the
00:48:40next checker
00:48:41should be the
00:48:42gain to the
00:48:42other economic
00:48:43agent whether
00:48:43it is household
00:48:44or you know
00:48:45the other private
00:48:46economic agent
00:48:47but here obviously
00:48:47the impact is
00:48:48directly to the
00:48:48household
00:48:49apart from this
00:48:50we also would
00:48:51be seeing
00:48:52dissolution of
00:48:53the compensation
00:48:53cess which was
00:48:55roughly around
00:48:561500 to 1600
00:48:57billion rupees
00:48:59again close to
00:49:01around 0.4
00:49:03percent of GDP
00:49:04so if you
00:49:05include that
00:49:06and the net
00:49:07loss of the
00:49:08you know
00:49:08next checker
00:49:09the balance
00:49:10sheet gain
00:49:11to the
00:49:11household
00:49:11could be
00:49:11as high
00:49:12as 0.6
00:49:13percent of
00:49:13GDP
00:49:13and if I
00:49:14look at
00:49:15the fiscal
00:49:15multipliers
00:49:16generally the
00:49:17fiscal multiplier
00:49:18of indirect tax
00:49:20cut is close
00:49:20to on 1.2
00:49:21X so the
00:49:22net gain to
00:49:23the economy
00:49:23assuming that
00:49:25the government
00:49:25actually incurs
00:49:26this loss
00:49:27on its book
00:49:28and does not
00:49:28cut its
00:49:29you know
00:49:30fiscal loss
00:49:30by reducing
00:49:31its expenditure
00:49:32just from the
00:49:34balance sheet
00:49:34point of the
00:49:35government of
00:49:35India could be
00:49:36you know
00:49:37around 0.3
00:49:38to 0.4
00:49:38percent of
00:49:39GDP over
00:49:39the medium
00:49:40term
00:49:40but in the
00:49:41near term
00:49:42I think the
00:49:42household could
00:49:43see almost
00:49:440.6 percent
00:49:45of GDP worth
00:49:46of benefit
00:49:47in their
00:49:47balance sheet
00:49:48over an
00:49:49annualized
00:49:49basis
00:49:49I want to
00:49:51understand from
00:49:52you the
00:49:52pertinent
00:49:53question
00:49:53where will
00:49:54these savings
00:49:55go if
00:49:55somebody is
00:49:56saving 6
00:49:56to 8
00:49:57percent a
00:49:57month
00:49:58do you
00:49:58think
00:49:59SIP
00:49:59number is
00:50:00going to
00:50:00be bigger
00:50:01or you
00:50:01think even
00:50:02bank will
00:50:03get some
00:50:04of the
00:50:04share of
00:50:05the savings
00:50:06I think
00:50:09this is
00:50:10something that
00:50:11will need
00:50:12to be
00:50:12sort of
00:50:13you know
00:50:15deciphered
00:50:16there will
00:50:16be first
00:50:17order effects
00:50:18and then
00:50:18there will
00:50:18be second
00:50:19order effects
00:50:20etc
00:50:20the first
00:50:22order effect
00:50:22of something
00:50:23getting cheaper
00:50:24classical
00:50:25economists
00:50:25suggest that
00:50:26okay the
00:50:27demand for
00:50:27that goes
00:50:28up now
00:50:28some of
00:50:29these items
00:50:30I mean
00:50:30there is
00:50:31only so
00:50:32much toothpaste
00:50:32that you
00:50:33can sort
00:50:33of use
00:50:34and you
00:50:36know
00:50:36therefore
00:50:37I don't
00:50:38know
00:50:38I don't
00:50:39want to
00:50:39pick a
00:50:40specific
00:50:40category
00:50:41so one
00:50:42is that
00:50:43for certain
00:50:44items
00:50:45things like
00:50:45consumer
00:50:46durables
00:50:46etc
00:50:47where you
00:50:48know
00:50:48the
00:50:49GST has
00:50:51come down
00:50:51dramatically
00:50:52the demand
00:50:53may actually
00:50:54go up
00:50:54people might
00:50:55actually spend
00:50:56more
00:50:56on them
00:50:58they may
00:50:58actually move
00:50:59to that
00:50:59category
00:51:00from say
00:51:01an air
00:51:01cooler
00:51:02to an
00:51:03air
00:51:03condition
00:51:03it's
00:51:04very much
00:51:05possible
00:51:06secondly
00:51:07whether they
00:51:08will save
00:51:08or spend
00:51:09also depends
00:51:10on what
00:51:10is you
00:51:11know
00:51:12three four
00:51:13big jargon
00:51:14the marginal
00:51:15propensity
00:51:15to consume
00:51:16you know
00:51:18when you
00:51:19have additional
00:51:19money in
00:51:20your hand
00:51:20what will
00:51:21people do
00:51:22so typically
00:51:22the lower
00:51:24middle class
00:51:25and the
00:51:25middle class
00:51:26will tend
00:51:27to spend
00:51:28more with
00:51:28that money
00:51:29the slightly
00:51:31upper middle
00:51:32class and
00:51:33richer people
00:51:33will tend
00:51:34to save
00:51:35more
00:51:35so I
00:51:36think it's
00:51:36very difficult
00:51:37to know
00:51:38today what
00:51:39would happen
00:51:40but if I
00:51:41was you
00:51:41know to
00:51:42take a
00:51:42breath I
00:51:43would say
00:51:44that the
00:51:44expenditure
00:51:45would go
00:51:45up because
00:51:46we are
00:51:47typically
00:51:48a very
00:51:49very lower
00:51:51middle class
00:51:51and middle
00:51:52class economy
00:51:53and I
00:51:54think that is
00:51:55good for the
00:51:56economy because
00:51:57what the
00:51:58government has
00:51:59given up in
00:52:00terms of the
00:52:00rate cuts on
00:52:01GST
00:52:02probably it
00:52:03will make
00:52:03up on
00:52:04volumes at
00:52:05least some
00:52:06part of it
00:52:07it is hopefully
00:52:08will make up
00:52:08on volumes and
00:52:10you know that's
00:52:11also good for
00:52:11the economy so
00:52:13it's not
00:52:14necessary that
00:52:15this will go
00:52:17into savings
00:52:17or into
00:52:19investments.
00:52:21Mr. Joshi thank
00:52:21you so much for
00:52:22your time help us
00:52:23understand what
00:52:24could be the
00:52:25extent of the
00:52:26spur in demand
00:52:27that we could
00:52:27see from the
00:52:29GST
00:52:29rationalization.
00:52:31Well I
00:52:32think the
00:52:33GST primarily
00:52:34is a structural
00:52:36reform and I
00:52:37think it improves
00:52:38compliance it
00:52:39also has led
00:52:43to higher tax
00:52:43collections for
00:52:44the government
00:52:45and makes the
00:52:46business easy to
00:52:47do I can sort
00:52:48of say but
00:52:49the time at
00:52:50which GST has
00:52:51been announced
00:52:52and coupled
00:52:52with that that
00:52:54they have reduced
00:52:55the rates for a
00:52:56number of
00:52:56categories I
00:52:57think that has
00:52:58triggered hopes
00:52:58that it will be
00:53:00consumption positive
00:53:00and we also
00:53:01believe that it
00:53:02will be it will
00:53:03be consumption
00:53:04positive because
00:53:05we looked at
00:53:05the 30 categories
00:53:07of consumption
00:53:09from the
00:53:10household consumption
00:53:11expenditure survey
00:53:12and we find
00:53:13that out of the
00:53:1330 categories which
00:53:14account for almost
00:53:1588% of
00:53:17consumption expenditure
00:53:18of an average
00:53:19Indian household
00:53:2011 items I
00:53:21think which
00:53:22account for a
00:53:23third of
00:53:23consumption have
00:53:24seen a reduction
00:53:25in rates so
00:53:27what GST will
00:53:30do is I think
00:53:30two other things
00:53:31which are
00:53:31consumption positive
00:53:32are happening
00:53:33right now one
00:53:34I think is the
00:53:35income tax rate
00:53:36cut which was
00:53:37announced in the
00:53:38budget on top
00:53:39of that in
00:53:39general inflation
00:53:40is low
00:53:41particularly
00:53:42inflation on
00:53:43food items
00:53:44and I think
00:53:46this is going
00:53:47to complement
00:53:48that further
00:53:48and GST
00:53:50reductions will
00:53:51act on the
00:53:52inflation side
00:53:53they lack
00:53:53more on the
00:53:54core inflation
00:53:55because I
00:53:56think food
00:53:56items were
00:53:57anyway most
00:53:57of them were
00:53:58under very
00:53:59low tax rates
00:54:01so to say
00:54:02so I think
00:54:03it will spur
00:54:04consumption
00:54:05to what extent
00:54:06is a little
00:54:06hard to say
00:54:07right now
00:54:08because the
00:54:09pass through
00:54:10is what people
00:54:11are waiting
00:54:12for we have
00:54:13seen some
00:54:13quick pass
00:54:14through in
00:54:15durable segment
00:54:16particularly the
00:54:16automobile
00:54:17where the
00:54:18small category
00:54:20entry level
00:54:21vehicles are
00:54:22likely to see
00:54:238-9% reduction
00:54:24in prices
00:54:25I think that's
00:54:25the crucial
00:54:26estimate
00:54:26the mid-sized
00:54:27will see
00:54:28around 3.5%
00:54:30reduction in
00:54:30prices
00:54:31and the
00:54:32premium segment
00:54:33will see
00:54:33around 6.7%
00:54:35so I think
00:54:36there is
00:54:36it's going to
00:54:37push consumption
00:54:39up
00:54:40I would look
00:54:41at it as
00:54:42something which
00:54:43is complementing
00:54:44the other
00:54:44factors to
00:54:46support consumption
00:54:47because investment
00:54:48scenario is not
00:54:48that strong
00:54:49so I think
00:54:50consumption is
00:54:50a theme
00:54:51this year
00:54:51well it will
00:54:52certainly have
00:54:53a massive
00:54:54multiplier effect
00:54:55because as we
00:54:55all know
00:54:56India is largely
00:54:57a domestic
00:54:58consumption
00:54:58driven economy
00:54:59and if we
00:55:01can boost
00:55:01consumption
00:55:02then that
00:55:03would more
00:55:03than offset
00:55:04the damage
00:55:06or whatever
00:55:06effect that
00:55:08will take
00:55:08place because
00:55:09of the tariffs
00:55:09so I think
00:55:10it's a wonderful
00:55:11move
00:55:11I think it's
00:55:12also wrong
00:55:13to believe
00:55:14that in the
00:55:14long term
00:55:15there will be
00:55:15loss to revenue
00:55:16there will
00:55:16actually be a
00:55:17gain in revenue
00:55:18because when
00:55:19consumption
00:55:19increases the
00:55:20sheer amount
00:55:21of consumption
00:55:22will and
00:55:23reduced GST
00:55:25rate on that
00:55:26will compensate
00:55:27for the
00:55:28reduction in
00:55:29the rate that
00:55:30is taking place
00:55:31so all in all
00:55:31very good
00:55:32very good for
00:55:33businesses
00:55:34very good for
00:55:35the economy
00:55:35and it will be
00:55:36a big boost
00:55:37to the middle
00:55:38income households
00:55:39oh well
00:55:42yes indeed
00:55:43but along with
00:55:46that Mr.
00:55:46Mishwem
00:55:47the other
00:55:48thing is
00:55:48that how
00:55:49the ease
00:55:50of doing
00:55:50business
00:55:51will pan
00:55:51out in
00:55:52the Indian
00:55:52economies
00:55:53if you can
00:55:54help us
00:55:54understand
00:55:54that there
00:55:55were indeed
00:55:56several
00:55:56announcements
00:55:57for many
00:55:58sectors
00:55:58but what
00:55:59as per you
00:55:59will be the
00:56:00biggest
00:56:01beneficiary at
00:56:02this point
00:56:03in time
00:56:03any sense
00:56:04there
00:56:04so we've
00:56:06seen so many
00:56:07measures which
00:56:08are more
00:56:08technical in
00:56:09nature
00:56:09which have
00:56:12been talked
00:56:13about on
00:56:13your channel
00:56:14on the
00:56:15process of
00:56:15easing the
00:56:16amount that
00:56:20is payable
00:56:20and making it
00:56:21easier for the
00:56:22SME and the
00:56:24businessmen
00:56:25so leaving
00:56:26aside that
00:56:28the sheer
00:56:28fact that
00:56:29measures like
00:56:30this will
00:56:31boost consumption
00:56:32because prices
00:56:33will come down
00:56:33will itself be
00:56:34a big boost
00:56:35to the economy
00:56:36let's discuss
00:56:38with Ajay
00:56:38Bagga how
00:56:39big an
00:56:39opportunity
00:56:40this is
00:56:40turning out
00:56:41to be
00:56:41Ajay hi
00:56:42afternoon
00:56:42thanks for
00:56:43joining in
00:56:44and apologies
00:56:44to keep you
00:56:45waiting we
00:56:45were just
00:56:46getting some
00:56:46perspective on
00:56:47how you know
00:56:48the markets
00:56:48are perceiving
00:56:50the impact
00:56:51of GST 2.0
00:56:53on various
00:56:53sectors but
00:56:54Ajay as an
00:56:55investor I guess
00:56:55the question is
00:56:56going to be
00:56:57because up
00:56:57until COVID
00:56:58to now you
00:56:59had only played
00:57:00the premiumization
00:57:01trend do you
00:57:02now look at
00:57:03more top-down
00:57:04approaches when
00:57:05it comes to
00:57:06consumption
00:57:06well you
00:57:09know I
00:57:10would not
00:57:11say that
00:57:12things will
00:57:13change very
00:57:14much what
00:57:15is changing
00:57:15is it's a
00:57:16very structural
00:57:18stimulus that
00:57:19has gone in
00:57:19and this
00:57:20stimulus will
00:57:20go in year
00:57:21after year
00:57:22now unless
00:57:23there is a
00:57:24rollback into
00:57:25higher rates
00:57:25which we don't
00:57:26anticipate so
00:57:28the immediate
00:57:28reaction of
00:57:31the markets
00:57:31might have
00:57:32been muted
00:57:32but what I'm
00:57:34expecting is
00:57:35that all the
00:57:36interest rate
00:57:37moves that
00:57:38have come in
00:57:39the monetary
00:57:40policy liquidity
00:57:41being injected
00:57:42overall the
00:57:43income tax
00:57:44slabs putting
00:57:45on the margin
00:57:47some more
00:57:48money into
00:57:49people's hands
00:57:50we have seen
00:57:51rural demand
00:57:52growing stronger
00:57:53than the urban
00:57:54demand so the
00:57:55catch-up story
00:57:56the markets
00:57:57are waiting
00:57:58for is the
00:57:59urban demand
00:57:59picking up so
00:58:00does this
00:58:02lead to
00:58:03urban demand
00:58:04picking up
00:58:05we'll know
00:58:05in the next
00:58:06two months
00:58:07but I think
00:58:08a very good
00:58:09structural
00:58:10stimulus has
00:58:11been injected
00:58:12by the
00:58:13government
00:58:13what trends
00:58:15will it
00:58:16change
00:58:16will the
00:58:17premiumization
00:58:18move to a
00:58:19more broader
00:58:19based rally
00:58:20that we have
00:58:22to see
00:58:22but definitely
00:58:24there will be
00:58:24more money
00:58:25in people's
00:58:26pockets
00:58:27after their
00:58:28usual spends
00:58:29and that
00:58:30normally goes
00:58:31back into
00:58:32consumption
00:58:32so the
00:58:33consumption
00:58:33multiplier
00:58:34works when
00:58:35you cut
00:58:36consumption
00:58:37taxes like
00:58:38this so the
00:58:38government has
00:58:39got it right
00:58:40there are some
00:58:41issues to be
00:58:43ironed out
00:58:44like the
00:58:44input tax
00:58:45credit
00:58:45then the
00:58:47anti-profiteering
00:58:48to ensure
00:58:50that companies
00:58:51are passing
00:58:52back
00:58:53passing on
00:58:54these
00:58:55advantages
00:58:56to the
00:58:56customers
00:58:57I think
00:58:57those two
00:58:58remain the
00:58:59issues
00:58:59which has
00:59:00made the
00:59:01markets
00:59:01muted
00:59:01but if
00:59:03you take
00:59:04all this
00:59:04together
00:59:04I think
00:59:05we are
00:59:06setting up
00:59:06for a good
00:59:07market recovery
00:59:08when that
00:59:09comes what
00:59:10is the
00:59:10catalyst
00:59:11we'll have
00:59:11to wait
00:59:12maybe this
00:59:13is the
00:59:13catalyst
00:59:14that we
00:59:15will know
00:59:15after about
00:59:16two months
00:59:17when we
00:59:17actually see
00:59:18how the
00:59:19festive demand
00:59:20passes through
00:59:21look ahead
00:59:29into the
00:59:30future
00:59:30figure out
00:59:30what the
00:59:31markets would
00:59:31do and
00:59:32what
00:59:32investors
00:59:33should be
00:59:33doing
00:59:34we've got
00:59:34Harsha Upatia
00:59:35joining in
00:59:35on the show
00:59:36right now
00:59:36Harsha
00:59:37hi morning
00:59:38good to
00:59:38have you
00:59:38on the
00:59:39show
00:59:39Harsha
00:59:39a lot
00:59:40of news
00:59:40flow now
00:59:41seems to
00:59:41be getting
00:59:42addressed
00:59:42and addressed
00:59:43pretty much
00:59:43along the
00:59:44expected lines
00:59:45from the
00:59:45market
00:59:46be it
00:59:46domestic
00:59:47or for
00:59:47that matter
00:59:48now
00:59:48the Fed
00:59:49as well
00:59:49of course
00:59:50the Fed
00:59:50big overhang
00:59:51continues
00:59:51on the
00:59:52US tariffs
00:59:52but hopefully
00:59:53there should
00:59:53be a
00:59:53resolution
00:59:54to that
00:59:54as well
00:59:55you think
00:59:56all built
00:59:57in into
00:59:57the markets
00:59:58or do you
01:00:00think the
01:00:00markets would
01:00:01await to
01:00:01see what
01:00:03the consumption
01:00:03fillip is
01:00:04after the
01:00:05GST
01:00:05comes into
01:00:06effect
01:00:07come 22nd
01:00:08the slab
01:00:09changes that
01:00:09is and
01:00:10then perhaps
01:00:11directionally
01:00:11move higher
01:00:12from here
01:00:13good morning
01:00:15if you
01:00:17look at
01:00:17GST
01:00:18related
01:00:19upside
01:00:20or sentiment
01:00:20change
01:00:21I think
01:00:21more or
01:00:22less
01:00:22that has
01:00:23played out
01:00:23in the
01:00:24very near
01:00:24term
01:00:24in our
01:00:25opinion
01:00:25most market
01:00:27participants
01:00:27understand
01:00:28that
01:00:29probably
01:00:29Q2 numbers
01:00:31are not
01:00:31going to be
01:00:32as expected
01:00:34earlier
01:00:34there will be
01:00:35some
01:00:36deferment
01:00:36of purchases
01:00:37into Q3
01:00:38but when
01:00:39when you
01:00:39look at
01:00:39Q2 and
01:00:41Q3
01:00:41together
01:00:41I think
01:00:43there should
01:00:43not be
01:00:44any
01:00:44disappointment
01:00:44and
01:00:45probably
01:00:45given the
01:00:47fact that
01:00:47GST reforms
01:00:48are
01:00:48structural in
01:00:49nature
01:00:50this upside
01:00:51should continue
01:00:53over the next
01:00:53few quarters
01:00:54few years
01:00:55as well
01:00:55however
01:00:57what is not
01:00:58priced in
01:00:59by the markets
01:00:59yet is
01:01:00probably
01:01:00any
01:01:01resolution
01:01:03to
01:01:04India
01:01:04US
01:01:05trade
01:01:05relationship
01:01:06anything
01:01:07possible
01:01:07coming out
01:01:08of that
01:01:08in the
01:01:08near term
01:01:09could
01:01:10increase
01:01:11foreign
01:01:11participation
01:01:12in India
01:01:12if you
01:01:13look at
01:01:13last couple
01:01:14of months
01:01:15we have
01:01:16seen
01:01:16some
01:01:17flows
01:01:17from
01:01:17developed
01:01:18markets
01:01:18flowing
01:01:19into
01:01:19emerging
01:01:20markets
01:01:20for
01:01:21many
01:01:22of the
01:01:23emerging
01:01:23market
01:01:24economies
01:01:25there has
01:01:26been
01:01:26inflows
01:01:27in the
01:01:27past
01:01:27couple
01:01:28of
01:01:28months
01:01:28however
01:01:29India
01:01:30has
01:01:30been
01:01:30an
01:01:30exception
01:01:31and
01:01:31what
01:01:31has
01:01:31happened
01:01:32in
01:01:32this
01:01:32phase
01:01:33is
01:01:33the
01:01:34usual
01:01:35premium
01:01:35that
01:01:36India
01:01:36used
01:01:36to
01:01:36trade
01:01:37vis-ร -vis
01:01:37emerging
01:01:38markets
01:01:39has
01:01:40come
01:01:40off
01:01:40quite
01:01:40a
01:01:41bit
01:01:41on
01:01:41a
01:01:41five-year
01:01:42average
01:01:42India
01:01:43has
01:01:44an
01:01:44average
01:01:45premium
01:01:46of
01:01:46about
01:01:4771%
01:01:48over
01:01:48emerging
01:01:48markets
01:01:49and
01:01:49now
01:01:50that
01:01:50premium
01:01:50has
01:01:51shrunk
01:01:51to
01:01:51close
01:01:51to
01:01:52about
01:01:5240 or
01:01:5245%
01:01:53while
01:01:54we
01:01:54are
01:01:54still
01:01:55a
01:01:55little
01:01:55bit
01:01:55expensive
01:01:56compared
01:01:56to
01:01:56emerging
01:01:57markets
01:01:57but
01:01:58I
01:01:58think
01:01:58given
01:01:59the fact
01:01:59that
01:01:59over
01:01:59the
01:01:59last
01:02:00year
01:02:00India
01:02:01has
01:02:01under
01:02:01performed
01:02:02an
01:02:02off
01:02:02late
01:02:02as
01:02:03well
01:02:03because
01:02:04of
01:02:04the
01:02:04trade
01:02:05issues
01:02:07we have
01:02:07not
01:02:08seen
01:02:08large
01:02:08flows
01:02:09coming
01:02:09from
01:02:09FIs
01:02:10that
01:02:10could
01:02:10change
01:02:11if
01:02:11there
01:02:11is
01:02:11any
01:02:11early
01:02:12resolution
01:02:12to
01:02:13US
01:02:14India
01:02:14trade
01:02:14negotiations
01:02:15making
01:02:16of
01:02:17the
01:02:17market
01:02:17Ajay
01:02:18hi
01:02:18morning
01:02:19lots
01:02:19of
01:02:19consolidation
01:02:20and
01:02:21I
01:02:21guess
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01:02:35think
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01:02:36think
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01:02:47think
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01:03:59think
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01:04:28run
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01:04:32all
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01:04:43think
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01:04:46would
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01:05:13think
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01:05:33has
01:05:33come
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01:08:27still
01:08:28hope
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01:08:28will
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01:08:38consumption
01:08:39and
01:08:39perhaps
01:08:40do
01:08:40things
01:08:40to
01:08:41offset
01:08:42some
01:08:42of
01:08:42the
01:08:42pressure
01:08:42from
01:08:43the
01:08:43tariffs
01:08:43and
01:08:44I
01:08:44think
01:08:44if
01:08:44you
01:08:45look
01:08:45at
01:08:45quarter
01:08:45one
01:08:46earnings
01:08:46we have
01:08:46seen
01:08:47some
01:08:47sluggishness
01:08:48in
01:08:48consumption
01:08:48now
01:08:49earlier
01:08:50this year
01:08:50I
01:08:50think
01:08:51the
01:08:51government
01:08:51took
01:08:51a
01:08:51big
01:08:52step
01:08:52in
01:08:53terms
01:08:53of
01:08:53tax
01:08:54relief
01:08:54to
01:08:54the
01:08:54average
01:08:55consumer
01:08:56this
01:08:57is
01:08:57one
01:08:57more
01:08:58step
01:08:58I
01:08:59particularly
01:09:00think
01:09:00if
01:09:01you
01:09:01look
01:09:01at
01:09:01FMCG
01:09:02as
01:09:02a
01:09:02sector
01:09:03if
01:09:03you
01:09:03look
01:09:03at
01:09:03consumer
01:09:04durables
01:09:04as
01:09:04a
01:09:05sector
01:09:05and
01:09:05of
01:09:05course
01:09:05the
01:09:06big
01:09:06E
01:09:06here
01:09:06which
01:09:07is
01:09:07auto
01:09:08I
01:09:08think
01:09:09this
01:09:09does
01:09:09act
01:09:10as
01:09:10a
01:09:10demand
01:09:11boost
01:09:11because
01:09:11a lot
01:09:12of
01:09:12goods
01:09:12get
01:09:13meaningfully
01:09:13cheaper
01:09:14in
01:09:14this
01:09:14segment
01:09:15so
01:09:15I
01:09:16think
01:09:16and
01:09:16you
01:09:16know
01:09:17inflation
01:09:17also
01:09:18comes
01:09:19down
01:09:19so
01:09:19it's
01:09:19a
01:09:19de-inflationary
01:09:20move
01:09:20in that
01:09:21sense
01:09:21so
01:09:21very
01:09:22very
01:09:22much
01:09:22the
01:09:23need
01:09:23of
01:09:23the
01:09:23hour
01:09:24and
01:09:24perhaps
01:09:25the
01:09:25way
01:09:25that
01:09:25we
01:09:26have
01:09:26to
01:09:26combat
01:09:27the
01:09:28global
01:09:28volatility
01:09:29that
01:09:29we're
01:09:29surrounded
01:09:30by
01:09:30so
01:09:30while
01:09:30I'm
01:09:31sure
01:09:31our
01:09:31trade
01:09:32teams
01:09:32are
01:09:32negotiating
01:09:33and
01:09:33working
01:09:33on
01:09:33that
01:09:34this
01:09:35is
01:09:35really
01:09:35the
01:09:35best
01:09:35finance
01:09:36ministry
01:09:36could
01:09:36do
01:09:37all right
01:09:39definitely
01:09:40hi
01:09:40Ankur
01:09:41this
01:09:41side
01:09:41Radhika
01:09:42I want
01:09:43to
01:09:43understand
01:09:43from
01:09:43you
01:09:44the
01:09:44part
01:09:44you
01:09:44mentioned
01:09:45about
01:09:45the
01:09:46churning
01:09:46now
01:09:47this
01:09:48will
01:09:48allow
01:09:49the
01:09:50market
01:09:50participants
01:09:51to
01:09:51pick
01:09:51and
01:09:51choose
01:09:52the
01:09:52sectors
01:09:52and
01:09:54look
01:09:54for
01:09:55the
01:09:55growth
01:09:55opportunity
01:09:56one
01:09:56is
01:09:56of
01:09:56course
01:09:57the
01:09:57consumption
01:09:57part
01:09:58do
01:09:58you
01:09:58think
01:09:59with
01:09:59the
01:10:00global
01:10:00uncertainties
01:10:02still
01:10:02being
01:10:02there
01:10:03and
01:10:03tariff
01:10:04resolution
01:10:04not
01:10:05in
01:10:05sight
01:10:05there
01:10:06will
01:10:06be
01:10:07interest
01:10:08in
01:10:09the
01:10:09sectors
01:10:09other
01:10:10than
01:10:10consumption
01:10:10as
01:10:11well
01:10:11so
01:10:12I
01:10:13mean
01:10:13it's
01:10:13very
01:10:14sector
01:10:14specific
01:10:15look
01:10:15the
01:10:16reality
01:10:17is
01:10:17with
01:10:17the
01:10:18global
01:10:18uncertainty
01:10:19portfolios
01:10:20will have
01:10:21to be
01:10:21biased
01:10:22in our
01:10:22view
01:10:22to
01:10:23businesses
01:10:23that are
01:10:24more
01:10:24domestic
01:10:24in
01:10:25nature
01:10:25now
01:10:25consumption
01:10:26or
01:10:26non
01:10:26consumption
01:10:27you can
01:10:27debate
01:10:28but
01:10:29they
01:10:29have
01:10:30to be
01:10:30more
01:10:30domestic
01:10:31in
01:10:31nature
01:10:31businesses
01:10:32that
01:10:33are
01:10:33more
01:10:33export
01:10:34oriented
01:10:34so you
01:10:35look at
01:10:35something
01:10:35like
01:10:35chemicals
01:10:36or you
01:10:36look at
01:10:36something
01:10:37like
01:10:37jewelry
01:10:37will they
01:10:38get
01:10:39hurt
01:10:39from
01:10:39tariffs
01:10:40I
01:10:40think
01:10:40that
01:10:40is
01:10:40a
01:10:41reality
01:10:41that
01:10:41we
01:10:41are
01:10:42combating
01:10:42so in
01:10:42our
01:10:43portfolios
01:10:43I
01:10:43think
01:10:44the
01:10:44key
01:10:44focus
01:10:45is
01:10:45businesses
01:10:45that
01:10:46are
01:10:46domestic
01:10:46so it
01:10:47could be
01:10:47domestic
01:10:48capital
01:10:48markets
01:10:48it
01:10:49could be
01:10:49domestic
01:10:49consumption
01:10:50it
01:10:50could be
01:10:50domestically
01:10:51oriented
01:10:52healthcare
01:10:52and
01:10:53hospitals
01:10:53but it
01:10:54has to
01:10:54be
01:10:54domestic
01:10:55oriented
01:10:56so I
01:10:57think the
01:10:57clear
01:10:58rotation
01:10:58is happening
01:10:59in
01:10:59portfolios
01:11:00towards
01:11:01businesses
01:11:01that tap
01:11:02the Indian
01:11:03consumption
01:11:03story
01:11:04and that's
01:11:05really what
01:11:05you need
01:11:06to give
01:11:06a boost
01:11:07to
01:11:07I mean
01:11:07that's
01:11:07the engine
01:11:08that's
01:11:08going to
01:11:08fire
01:11:09today
01:11:09session
01:11:10forward
01:11:10we've
01:11:11got
01:11:11Saurabh Mukherjee
01:11:12from
01:11:12Marcellus
01:11:13Investment
01:11:13Managers
01:11:14joining
01:11:14another
01:11:14show
01:11:14right now
01:11:15Saurabh
01:11:16hi
01:11:16morning
01:11:16the
01:11:16big
01:11:17GST
01:11:17reset
01:11:18I guess
01:11:19when it
01:11:19comes to
01:11:19the
01:11:20consumption
01:11:20that the
01:11:21economy
01:11:22needed
01:11:22one
01:11:22couldn't
01:11:23have
01:11:23asked
01:11:23for
01:11:24more
01:11:24but
01:11:24do
01:11:25you
01:11:25think
01:11:25that's
01:11:25going
01:11:25to
01:11:25translate
01:11:26into
01:11:26equity
01:11:26markets
01:11:27seeing
01:11:27that
01:11:28bump
01:11:28up
01:11:28as
01:11:28well
01:11:29I
01:11:30think
01:11:30look
01:11:30I
01:11:30think
01:11:31the
01:11:31big
01:11:31thing
01:11:31to
01:11:31share
01:11:32here
01:11:32is
01:11:32in
01:11:33a
01:11:33way
01:11:33some
01:11:34consistency
01:11:34with
01:11:35the
01:11:35budget
01:11:35in
01:11:35February
01:11:36earlier
01:11:36this year
01:11:36the
01:11:37government
01:11:38is now
01:11:38turning
01:11:39towards
01:11:39consumption
01:11:39right
01:11:40I
01:11:40think
01:11:40in
01:11:40the
01:11:40budget
01:11:41itself
01:11:41the
01:11:42middle
01:11:42class
01:11:42tax
01:11:43cut
01:11:43was
01:11:43a
01:11:43step
01:11:44in
01:11:44the
01:11:44right
01:11:44direction
01:11:44this
01:11:45whole
01:11:48emphasis
01:11:48on
01:11:48government
01:11:49capex
01:11:49will
01:11:50gradually
01:11:51fade
01:11:51away
01:11:51and
01:11:52the
01:11:52entire
01:11:53focus
01:11:53will
01:11:54be
01:11:55on
01:11:55reviving
01:11:55consumption
01:11:56because
01:11:57that's
01:11:5760%
01:11:58of GDP
01:11:58so
01:11:59positive
01:12:00move
01:12:00the
01:12:01two
01:12:01areas
01:12:02of
01:12:02caution
01:12:02I
01:12:03would
01:12:03flag
01:12:03is
01:12:03the
01:12:04downside
01:12:05effect
01:12:05the
01:12:06detrimental
01:12:06effect
01:12:06of
01:12:07Trump's
01:12:07tariffs
01:12:07will
01:12:08only
01:12:08show
01:12:08up
01:12:08over
01:12:09the
01:12:09next
01:12:09three
01:12:09four
01:12:09months
01:12:09I
01:12:10was
01:12:10in
01:12:10the
01:12:10third
01:12:11point
01:12:11yesterday
01:12:12and
01:12:13people
01:12:14are
01:12:14in
01:12:14a
01:12:14state
01:12:15of
01:12:15shock
01:12:15the
01:12:15textile
01:12:15sector
01:12:16is
01:12:16in
01:12:16a
01:12:16state
01:12:16of
01:12:17shock
01:12:17I
01:12:17think
01:12:17we
01:12:17will
01:12:17see
01:12:18major
01:12:19downside
01:12:19impacts
01:12:20there
01:12:20if
01:12:20the
01:12:2050%
01:12:21tariffs
01:12:21continue
01:12:22similarly
01:12:22in
01:12:23the
01:12:23gems
01:12:23and
01:12:23jewelry
01:12:23sector
01:12:24in
01:12:24cities
01:12:24like
01:12:25Surat
01:12:25Agra
01:12:26Luckna
01:12:27or
01:12:27Luthiana
01:12:27have
01:12:28footwear
01:12:29export
01:12:29and
01:12:29sports
01:12:30goods
01:12:30export
01:12:30sector
01:12:31so
01:12:31it's worth
01:12:32keeping in
01:12:33mind
01:12:33in this
01:12:34morning's
01:12:34euphoria
01:12:34that
01:12:35there will
01:12:36be massive
01:12:37downside
01:12:38impacts
01:12:38on the
01:12:38economy
01:12:39it's
01:12:39easy for
01:12:39us to
01:12:40say on
01:12:40TV
01:12:40that it's
01:12:41a 1%
01:12:41of GDP
01:12:42hit to
01:12:42the
01:12:43economy
01:12:43when
01:12:43Trump
01:12:43hammers
01:12:44us
01:12:44with
01:12:4450%
01:12:45tariffs
01:12:45but the
01:12:45pain
01:12:46will come
01:12:46in the
01:12:47coming
01:12:47quarters
01:12:48and the
01:12:48second
01:12:48area
01:12:49of
01:12:49caution
01:12:49as we
01:12:50celebrate
01:12:51the
01:12:51GST
01:12:51cuts
01:12:51is
01:12:52the
01:12:52job
01:12:52creation
01:12:53picture
01:12:53the
01:12:53white
01:12:54collar
01:12:54job
01:12:54creation
01:12:54picture
01:12:55remains
01:12:55grim
01:12:55I think
01:12:56we're
01:12:56heading
01:12:57for
01:12:57savage
01:12:57job
01:12:58cuts
01:12:58in
01:12:58the
01:12:58IT
01:12:58services
01:12:59sector
01:12:59that
01:13:00too
01:13:01will
01:13:01drag
01:13:01down
01:13:02consumption
01:13:02so
01:13:02on
01:13:03the
01:13:03whole
01:13:03boost
01:13:05from
01:13:05GDP
01:13:06boost
01:13:06to
01:13:07consumption
01:13:07of
01:13:071 lakh
01:13:08crores
01:13:08I would
01:13:08say
01:13:08roughly
01:13:09from
01:13:09the
01:13:10GST
01:13:11cuts
01:13:11but
01:13:12comfortably
01:13:13counteracted
01:13:14by
01:13:15Trump's
01:13:15tariff
01:13:17hits
01:13:17on
01:13:17India
01:13:18and
01:13:18therefore
01:13:18overall
01:13:19I'm
01:13:19not so
01:13:19sure
01:13:19there's
01:13:20a big
01:13:20GDP
01:13:20growth
01:13:21boost
01:13:21whilst
01:13:23the
01:13:23economy
01:13:24tilts
01:13:25away
01:13:25from
01:13:25government
01:13:26capex
01:13:26towards
01:13:26consumption
01:13:27people
01:13:28like
01:13:28Marcellus
01:13:28who invest
01:13:30in
01:13:30consumption
01:13:30stocks
01:13:31are happy
01:13:31about it
01:13:32but overall
01:13:32at the
01:13:33economy
01:13:33level
01:13:33I think
01:13:34the good
01:13:34and the
01:13:34bad
01:13:35is
01:13:35counterbalancing
01:13:36each other
01:13:36settling in
01:13:37quiet
01:13:38right now
01:13:38let's
01:13:39take the
01:13:39conversation
01:13:39forward
01:13:40we've got
01:13:41Gautam Duggar
01:13:42as well
01:13:42joining in
01:13:43on the
01:13:43show
01:13:43right now
01:13:44Gautam
01:13:45hi
01:13:45morning
01:13:45great to
01:13:46have you
01:13:4680 now
01:13:47Gautam
01:13:47so much
01:13:48has happened
01:13:48right
01:13:49with regards
01:13:50to what
01:13:50the government
01:13:50has done
01:13:51in terms
01:13:52of pushing
01:13:53demand
01:13:53and growth
01:13:54higher
01:13:55I mean
01:13:55be it
01:13:56the rate
01:13:56cuts
01:13:56from the
01:13:57RBI
01:13:57be it
01:13:59all the
01:13:59taxation
01:14:00cuts
01:14:00which are
01:14:00still
01:14:01trickling
01:14:01in
01:14:01into
01:14:02the
01:14:02economy
01:14:02and then
01:14:03of course
01:14:04you know
01:14:05this big
01:14:05GST
01:14:06bazooka
01:14:06but Gautam
01:14:07that's not
01:14:07really reflecting
01:14:08on the
01:14:08markets
01:14:09why is
01:14:09that
01:14:10hi
01:14:11Aisha
01:14:12good morning
01:14:12thanks for
01:14:13having me
01:14:13yes
01:14:14I mean
01:14:15this is
01:14:15something
01:14:15which is
01:14:15perplexed
01:14:16everyone
01:14:16over the
01:14:17last 24
01:14:17hours
01:14:18but look
01:14:19Aisha
01:14:19there are
01:14:20two three
01:14:20things at
01:14:21play here
01:14:21first and
01:14:22foremost
01:14:23this relentless
01:14:24selling from
01:14:24foreign institutional
01:14:25investors
01:14:26I mean just to
01:14:27put numbers in
01:14:28perspective
01:14:28in the last
01:14:3020 months
01:14:31and you know
01:14:31calendar year
01:14:3224 plus
01:14:33first eight
01:14:34months of
01:14:34calendar 25
01:14:35foreigners have
01:14:36sold 15
01:14:37billion dollars
01:14:38against that
01:14:39domestics have
01:14:40bought 123
01:14:4160 billion
01:14:4163 billion
01:14:43last year
01:14:44and 60
01:14:45billion dollars
01:14:45roughly in
01:14:46the first
01:14:46eight months
01:14:47right
01:14:48so if you
01:14:48focus on
01:14:49just calendar
01:14:4925
01:14:50again 60
01:14:51million dollars
01:14:52we have
01:14:52seen 15
01:14:53billion dollars
01:14:53of selling
01:14:54from foreigners
01:14:54and roughly
01:14:55then you have
01:14:56seen a lot
01:14:57of activity
01:14:57on the primary
01:14:58market
01:14:58corporate
01:14:59blocks
01:15:00promoter
01:15:00blocks
01:15:00PE blocks
01:15:01so that
01:15:02is a
01:15:03pressure of
01:15:03supply which
01:15:04has kept
01:15:04the market
01:15:05you know
01:15:06a bit
01:15:06suppressed
01:15:07second
01:15:08the valuations
01:15:09the valuations
01:15:10of Nifty
01:15:10are about
01:15:1121-22
01:15:12times
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