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00:00Welcome to Cam's Corp's R Stories, the podcast series that delves into the
00:06Force's unheard stories, covers the news that you want to hear and explores the
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00:16I'm immensely proud to be a Special Constable. It's something I just, yeah,
00:20absolute pride in what we do. To be able to go and volunteer your time to help
00:25people or to help your regular colleagues. I just feel like you come home and I've
00:31done that today and I've helped that person today. It might not be the best
00:34day of their life, it might be the worst day of their life, but I was there and I did my best.
00:39I police the Sarah Everard vigil. That was quite hard-hitting. I think being a
00:45woman of a similar age and choosing to put on the uniform as a volunteer really
00:50hit home in, like, how important not only police presence was for being there, but
00:59also the public perception as well of what that brings. So that was a hard-hitting move.
01:20Welcome, Thomas and Brittany May. Thank you for joining us, two of our specials. For the benefit
01:38of the listeners, you're volunteer police officers who dedicate a minimum of four hours a week to
01:44policing. Like your regular colleagues, you're sworn in by a magistrate. You're based at the same
01:50police stations, have the same powers in law, including the power of arrest, and you wear
01:53the same uniform. You both have regular careers alongside the time that you give
02:00to policing. First of all, could you both give us a brief summary of your
02:04backgrounds and regular careers and how volunteering as a special came about for
02:09you? Brittany May first. Yeah, I've had quite a few interesting life experiences, I think,
02:18before joining as a special. I'd spent a lot of time in the jewellery industry as well and
02:24that meant dealing with lots of people's emotions and realising that you're there for the best and
02:32the worst of people's, like, events in life. And it's really similar with policing, you know,
02:37people aren't phoning you because you've had a great day and they don't want to have a catch-up,
02:42there's something serious going on and being able to help out with that was one of the things that
02:49led me to becoming a special. And Tom? So I spent 20 years as a gamekeeper, dealing with rural crime
02:57on the country-estates I worked on. And in the end, I worked closely with an MPT group in
03:05Kimshire and they said, stop moaning and join us, help us out. So that's what I did because I've
03:12always had that inside me to, I find always personal, I found it personal when things
03:17happened on the estate, even just down to gates being, locks being uncut or red diesel theft or
03:23hair coursing. So then it just became a thing then that I felt like I could give something,
03:31I could come and help and do something and give something back. Yeah, tell us a bit more about
03:35being a gamekeeper. How did you get into that and what's your daily work involved? So I became,
03:40so I grew up in the New Forest. So originally I wanted to be a new forest keeper, which is slightly
03:45different. So it's looking after the national park, looking more after the deer management side,
03:49the squirrel management and forest fires. But when I went to Sparshow Agricultural College,
03:55I did the gamekeeping course there with the view of moving into the international park.
04:02But then I come across a gamekeeping job, took it and 20 years later I was still doing the same job.
04:06So that's how I sort of got into that. Daily, so that is running a country estate, various sizes,
04:13my biggest one I've been on is up to two and a half hours an acres. You're looking up at security for
04:18your estate, urban control, putting on the shoot days for the employers and just general estate work.
04:24Yeah. And so where did the link to policing come in then? Was a link through your work or was it
04:30something that came from your childhood? So my dad was fire service for 36 years,
04:34so I've always had that little blue light thing. My uncle and my cousin was fire service too.
04:39I grew up sort of that age when dad's bleep used to go off, we used to go all ways to the fire station,
04:44would sit on the wall and watch dad tip out. So that's always had a little thing inside me.
04:48And then of course with my, with the gamekeeping and having things happen on the estate,
04:52rural crime onto the estate. It's always been there, so I've worked closely with police
04:57over the years in all the counties I've lived in. So it's just built and built and built until
05:03I finally did it and made the jump. And you said people were saying stop complaining,
05:08what was that all about? I moaned a lot. Oh right, okay. I was a proper moaner.
05:12So I moaned a lot. There was a great PCSO that sent me, it's Richard Braddock, who worked closely with
05:17all of us, all of us were a lot. And he's just like, he's just got to stop running and come and
05:22help us and come and do something, you know, come and give us a hand. So I did.
05:26And you're a gamekeeper in that area? I was, yeah, I was at an estate there
05:30for eight years, just outside a gambling game. Yeah, okay. And Brittany, so you spent
05:3912 years working in the jewellery industry. Tell us more about what that was all about.
05:42Um, fascinating. Um, I think it's, I think starting off in retail is one of those things
05:53that teaches you a lot about people anyway, the people skills, um, the patients, the
06:02just everything that comes with it. So I did retail for a long time. I then moved into
06:06sales and account management, um, which once again was fascinating. I got jewellery qualifications along
06:12the way. I did a lot of events. I was traveling around the country. Um, it was, yeah, it was
06:18brilliant. Um, but there was always like a purpose missing, like jewellery is fantastic. And sorry to
06:26those that might be listening that are still in the industry. It's not a necessity. Um, I think I was
06:33starting to feel a little bit, um, bit confused about what I wanted to do with my life long term.
06:40And I think being a special has definitely filled that void.
06:44So was there always an interest there in emergency services or did that come about later on?
06:50I think there was always a bit of an interest. I think, um, you know, there's always a bit of an
06:56interest whenever blue lights go by anywhere, um, regardless of whether you're, you're in the force
07:02or not. It's that sort of professional curiosity about what's going on. Um, I don't think I've got
07:08any family members, um, that have done much with the emergency services. So it was quite an organic
07:16thing really for me to join.
07:18Yeah. Um, and you also work for the police now as well, don't you, in your regular role? What does that
07:24involve?
07:24Uh, so I'm a change and research officer, um, which is a fascinating role. My team are
07:31incredible in the way that they work together, which essentially is facilitating change within
07:37the force. So that could be an employee led idea. So if somebody out on the ground sees a particular
07:43way of working or a bit of kit, we can help bring that to the change board and implement it. If it's
07:49something that aligns with what we need to achieve and we get some fantastic things through, um,
07:55people's brains are brilliant.
07:57And what came first then? Because obviously you're in the jewellery industry,
08:01you felt that police was something for you. Did you get into the regular career first or did you
08:05get into being a special first and then moved into the, the other role?
08:10No, always been a special. So I've been a special for four years, um, and I've been in my full-time
08:15role for a year. So it was a, a very fresh change. Yes. Um, and Tom, um, you came to policing quite,
08:25quite late in life, if I may say that. In my midlife crisis.
08:28Yeah, at the age of 40. Um, what was the training like? Did it involve lots of new experiences?
08:33Oh, for me, it was, it was a massive change for me. I, I'd never really used a computer before. I know
08:39it sounds a bit crazy in these days, but being 40 and never having really a computer. Um, so it's
08:45taught me a lot. It's, uh, dragged me up into the modern world quite a lot. Uh, the training was hard.
08:51I can't say it wasn't hard, especially when I've got a small family and, and working a job,
08:56but it was great. It was great fun. Yeah, brilliant. Um, and the special and gamekeeper,
09:01they both seem like quite vocational jobs, policing, gamekeeping. Um, do you have a struggle
09:07fitting them both in? Um, so I, it is a juggle. I can't say it's not a juggle,
09:14but I couldn't be without either now. I'm still doing around 30 hours policing a month.
09:21I've moved to Northbrook recently, so it's an hour and a half to get in, but I'm still
09:25doing around 30 hours a month. Um, and yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't be without either really now.
09:31Yeah. And I guess on the flip side, there are similarities between the roles as well,
09:35aren't they? Do you, do you, do you find that? Uh, having your eyes open all the time for me on
09:40the estate, I'm always looking for changes. One of the, the thing that really got me involved
09:44recently, it's a lot was we having gorilla growing cannabis on the estate in Woodland.
09:48And so it's just spotting it, spotting unusual cars, spotting people where they shouldn't be.
09:53And so much the same when I'm out on duty, you know, you're just looking for that unusual
09:57car or that unusual looking person or something that's not quite right and
10:01doesn't really sit with you and then exploring that. Yeah. So what was that? Gorilla growing?
10:05Gorilla growing, so they were growing cannabis out in the Woodland. Oh, right.
10:09And then going around and harvesting it afterwards, so yeah. Oh, not, not heard of that before.
10:13No. So you would tip off police, would you, when you found that? Um, and uh, yeah,
10:19so the conditions are right, are there, to grow cannabis in a forest? Yeah, in certain places,
10:22we used to have a sandpit, they used to like to do it because it was out of the wind.
10:25Oh. But we've had that, we had a few, the gentleman that did it, he, he liked to do it.
10:31So there was a few plants here and a few plants and a few plants, so it was never a mass amount.
10:34The most plants we had in one space was 90. Oh, right.
10:37Which he'd cut out a piece of our wood and actually plastic the floor. Yeah.
10:41And grew them inside a wood. So I was deer stalking one day and then come across,
10:45I could smell it. Right.
10:47I went, crept into the wood and there it suddenly was. Ah, interesting discovery.
10:51Yeah. So there was many similarities really. Yeah. Okay. Um, and uh, Brittany, just turning to you,
10:58um, as a teenager, you were good at, uh, Taekwondo, I understand. Yeah.
11:03Tell us more about that. Um, it's a bit of an interesting origin story. I did struggle
11:11at secondary school with friendships and, um, I fell into a new group of friends who
11:18did Taekwondo and I got all the way to black belt. I competed, uh, internationally.
11:27So I hold the world champion title. Um, you still hold it. Well, it's, it's one of those things
11:34that once you get it, you don't lose it because of, um, the weight divisions and categories and stuff.
11:39So although I haven't done it for a long time, um, it was quite interesting when I was doing
11:46my initial training, cause I don't tend to mention that I've kicked people before
11:55and we were in training and they were holding the pads up and I was doing the front kicks that,
12:00you know, they were asking of us and they're like, you've done this before, haven't you? I was like,
12:03I might've done a few times. So yeah, that, that was great. Cause it teaches, cause Taekwondo is a
12:10military martial art. It teaches you a lot of discipline, a lot of respect. Um, and also
12:16like it kind of gave me, uh, a hyper vigilance in a sense of like constantly being aware of my
12:23surroundings. Um, and you know, keeping myself and other people safe. I think once you've got a
12:30martial art, it's just that new confidence that you get within yourself. Yeah. And how old were
12:36you when you stopped doing that? Uh, I was 18 when I stopped. Yeah. Yeah. And did you go to Olympics?
12:47I trialed for the 2012 Olympics. Yeah. I got through three rounds. Um, the final competitor that I was
12:53up against was twice my height and her legs just, I could, yeah, they were wrapped around my head before
12:59I knew what was happening. Right. Um, and, uh, so you obviously bring a lot of life experience from
13:09outside policing. Um, is that valuable? Do you think? Definitely. Yeah. But also the other way
13:14around as well. Um, the experience that I've got from policing also brings lots of life lessons and
13:21makes that more valuable to it's, it's, it's a, it's a happy exchange of, um, yeah, knowledge attitudes.
13:30Um, it's definitely made me more confident as a person. Um, but also confidence when I'm on shift,
13:40you know, you're, you're never alone, you're well-trained, you've got your kit. It's, um,
13:45yeah, it's a nice feeling of security, I think. And, um, I guess, um, obviously being a special has
13:54brought its own skills and experiences, which, you know, you wouldn't have had otherwise.
13:58Mm. Um, yeah. Tell us about some of the most memorable things that you've done, um, in your
14:04time as a special. So, Brittany. Ooh. Um, I think one of the benefits of being a special
14:12is you're able to work with so many different departments. Um, I've had memorable, memorable
14:21days with, um, RPU, for example, going out and doing joint operation things and learning,
14:28you know, immigration were there and, you know, the, oh my gosh, is there somebody in the back
14:33of this lorry and they get their cameras out and things like that. Like, that's really interesting.
14:37Mm. Um, some of the more political things as well, um, I policed the Sarah Everard vigil.
14:45That was quite hard hitting. Um, I think being a woman of a similar age and choosing to put on
14:51the uniform as a volunteer really hit home in, like, how important not only police presence
14:59was for being there, but also the public perception as well of what that brings. So that, that was a
15:06hard hitting one. When I started training as well, um, that was at the time where George Floyd was
15:13murdered. So it was one of these things like, oh my gosh, what I'm getting into is, is a big deal.
15:18And I really need to take this seriously. So world, world events touch you in your role as a police
15:25officer, don't they? And, um, international events and, um, you know, obviously big national events
15:31like the Sarah Everard murder. Um, so how does that, how does that make you feel when those sort of
15:35things impinge on your...?
15:38Oh...
15:44It reminds me that what I do as a police officer is really important in the sense of you could have
15:54somebody that has never had a good experience with the police, but if I'm able to help that person
16:02and change their perception of what the uniform means, and also breaking down those barriers,
16:08because I am a volunteer, you know, I am still Brittany. Yeah.
16:13Much like all of our full-time officers are, but people don't see you as a threat, I think,
16:21when you mention that you're a volunteer, it really breaks down barriers. Um, so yeah, it just, yeah,
16:27reminds me that if I can change somebody's perception, then I've done my job.
16:32That's interesting. Do you sense that then when you're dealing with people? Do you, do you sense that
16:37that you're being a volunteer makes a difference? You're more like them rather than being a regular
16:42police officer? Yeah, I'd say so, because they're all of a sudden like, oh, so you don't get paid?
16:47Yeah, most people are shocked. Yeah, there is a bit of shock behind it as well, isn't there? Um,
16:54and then they're willing to ask more about it. And, you know, usually the first question is,
17:00can you carry a gun? It's like, no.
17:02Tell yourself. No.
17:05But yeah, it really, um, it really breaks down barriers and people are definitely interested to hear
17:12about it from a volunteer perspective. I met some, uh, the American police at one of the air bases
17:18one evening. We stood there with them and it was, I think it was three of our specials or four of our
17:22specials with them. We had, we had to sit with them for an hour and a half and, um, they just couldn't,
17:27they couldn't get their heads around that there's a volunteer police service in the UK, which is just
17:32people that do a day job, finish their day job, have a shower, put the kids to bed and then come out
17:38put you warm on the police overnight. Yeah. Through the day. Well, for me, it's usually night, but,
17:42um, they couldn't get their head around it. And you don't carry guns. No. And you don't carry guns.
17:46No. And thank God for that. Yeah, goodness, yeah. I think that's quite an interesting thing with
17:52being a special as well. Like, it's a 24-hour role being a police officer, isn't it? So you can
17:57think, actually, no, I am free on a Friday night. I'll go pick up a night shift or, oh, I can finish
18:03early on a Tuesday afternoon. I try and squeeze in dates whenever I can. Yeah. Yeah, but it is, um,
18:10it's nice to have something so flexible in a way. And also, I, um, if I haven't been out for a week or
18:15two, it's actually a bit physical. I've got that, I want to go out. I actually, I sort of yearn to go
18:22out. It's not so, oh, I haven't been policing for, for two weeks. I really need to go out. It's part of me
18:28now. I need, you know, it's an itch you have to scratch. You have to go and do it. You feel like
18:33you want to be there. Yeah. For me, it's amazing. Okay. And, uh, and Tom, what's been some of your
18:38most memorable moments since you've been a special? And it's been, I'm, for me, it's the whole experience
18:43really has been memorable, really. And there's lots of, you know, it's a varied job. You go to lots of
18:49things. You see lots of things. Uh, for me, the memorable bits I think have been, some of it's
18:56been my, uh, progression from being a complete rule based country pumpkin, being dragged into,
19:06into this, uh, where we are in the modern times. And that's been amazing for me and to, to do that
19:12and to see how far I've come with computers and bits, which, you know, I didn't own one before.
19:17Um, policing. I think some of my memorable moments, I love it when something just goes
19:22right. I get a massive satisfaction when you go to somewhere and you've got some angry people
19:27and in 20 minutes, you have a bit of a laugh and a joke with them. You've got your professional
19:30distance and you're telling them to go home and, you know, crack on home, go to bed and it works.
19:36There's been nothing else. There's been no fighting. It's just been purely just chatting
19:40between each other, de-escalation and go on. And I get massive satisfaction. I love
19:46that having people at their height and sometimes at the worst day of their life or, or just
19:50through alcohol and being able to calm down, send them home, packed off to bed with no trouble,
19:55no one being arrested, uh, and a trouble-free night. And also the look on people's faces.
20:00I had a family not long ago. We were on MPT work, but we got called in to see if we could, um,
20:06they were stranded in the road and just see their faces when you turn up and the blue lights go on.
20:09And then suddenly, you know, you're out there with your high vis jackets. They've no longer
20:12worrying about a lorry coming up behind them and hitting their car when they're broken down.
20:16I just see their faces looking at you. It's like, oh, someone's here and they're going to help.
20:19And you can help. That brings me massive satisfaction.
20:23So it's been quite an eye-opener for you.
20:25It's a massive eye-opener for me. I mean, I did not know what went on in this world
20:29until I joined the police. I can honestly say that. It has been, um, yeah, and I don't,
20:36I can't stop talking about it to friends because I don't, I don't think people realise
20:42what the police do and what the police deal with either.
20:46But I suppose some people that, you know, maybe might know,
20:48not know what happens in the countryside and the woodlands that you obviously patrol in your other
20:53job as well. Um, and what motivates you to keep doing it? Because obviously you're doing this in,
20:59in your free, free time. It takes time. I mean, you're obviously, Tom, you've already said that
21:04you love it. Um, I'm immensely proud to do it. Yeah. Pride is, um, I'm immensely proud to be a
21:10special principal. It's something that just, yeah, absolute pride in what we do. Um, to be able to go
21:17and volunteer your time to help people or to help your regular colleagues. I just feel like you come
21:23home and I've done that today and I've helped that person today. It might not be the best day of their
21:27life. It might be the best, you know, it might be their worst day of their life, but I was there
21:31and I did my best and that's what, you know, I go home and have a cup of tea and think, yeah,
21:35I've done my best today. Yeah. And obviously you're doing it in your spare time without being paid,
21:39as you say, and the only chief constable has never failed to, um, thank specials whenever he's
21:45out there, the opportunity. So I think there's a lot of gratitude there. Um, Brittany, and for you,
21:50what, what motivates you to keep doing it? It is a privilege. It is a privilege, yeah.
21:57Um, pride is definitely a part of it as well. Um, from a sort of probably more, uh, low level
22:04side of that, like I've made some really good friends through specialing as well. Um,
22:09it's sort of opened up a whole new network of people, um, with a common goal, I think of,
22:19you know, sort of doing the best you can. Um, in terms of what motivates me to continue
22:24volunteering my time is this sort of collection of experiences that you get from it as well.
22:31No two shifts are the same. Um, you have to think like it is, it is hard work. You know,
22:37you do have to really challenge yourself in each of the situations that you're put in. Um,
22:44but as Tom said, you know, coming away from that and thinking, yeah, you know, I've done my best here,
22:50and I've hopefully made a difference to somebody's life. Um, yeah, it's massively motivating.
22:58And I guess that's the motivation as well for balancing everything else in your life.
23:03You've got your own career, you've got your private life, you've got your volunteering.
23:07Do you ever struggle with balancing all those?
23:09Um, working for the force full time as well. Um, it definitely feels like my life is occupied by
23:19Cambridge Dick Instabulary, but in the best way possible, you know, my day job is so different to
23:23my policing work. Um, but they're also really useful, um, being in situations where I do need an
23:33understanding of frontline work is really, really helpful in that sense. Um, um, I'm a big live
23:42music fan, play rugby, I travel as often as I can. Um, just come back from a month in Australia,
23:48as you know, so yeah, try and make sure that the downtime is, uh, is as good as it can be.
23:53You're originally from Australia.
23:55Yeah, I am. Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't have the accent, but that's fine.
23:58Um, and what is it about a special constabulary that's important? I mean, why, why is it still
24:05important that it is this? I think because we're such a varied bunch.
24:10I think we can also, what we can bring to the force. Yeah.
24:12I think it's what we can bring, uh, from our day jobs and our life experiences to make it a more
24:20rounded and better experience for the public, or what we can bring to the force to help the force.
24:26Yeah. With different bits of the public.
24:30So it's that interface between obviously, because you are police officers are still members of the
24:35public, but we need to police by consent. So I guess your key part in that. Yeah. Yeah.
24:42Okay. Um, and question to you both then, um, what have you been most proud of since becoming,
24:49um, a special, uh, Tom, you go first.
24:52What have you been most proud of? Um, well, I've got a new project coming,
24:59which I, I'm really enjoying putting together. And I feel if it goes right in the way I intend,
25:05will make a difference. And that'll be my proudest point. At the moment, it's quite a lot of personal,
25:11really just me. It's definitely given me a, uh, more confidence, as Brittany said, um,
25:18it gave me a bit of an identity back too, because I felt like I lost my identity for a while where
25:22being a special principal, uh, certainly gave me that back. Um, but this project coming up,
25:29I feel will be my proudest. Tell us a bit more about that.
25:33So I'm putting it together at the moment. It's an educational package, um, around agricultural
25:37vehicle, road safety. Yeah. Uh, so from my rural background, a lot of that is driving tractors,
25:43uh, day to day on one tractors. Um, within, uh, BCCH, Veterans Arts and Cams, we are
25:51the worst for KSI's killed or seriously injured by percentage in Cambridgeshire. There's many factors to
25:57that with the fence. We have lots of industry out there. Um, but so going down the route of education
26:04to young farmers groups, hopefully to national game groups organization to try and get out to shows,
26:10uh, and educate the young drivers on the legislation, but that's not always important.
26:15It's really the best practice. It's what they can do thinking outside the box on a day to day
26:20of how they can make it safer for them to go onto our highways. Yeah. Um, but it also rolls over to
26:25general members of the public too, where they can learn about our cultural vehicles and the stress
26:29and the strains that the farmers are under to, uh, especially at times of weather and harvest,
26:34uh, to try and, um, yeah, to make it a safer, a safer place for the general public and for our
26:40agricultural vehicle users. How young can you be to? 16. 16. And do you need a regular license?
26:46No, you can have a tractor license. Tractor license. Yeah. So is that your sort of target audience
26:50then? No sort of people that are that young? 16. The young farmers, um, so we're going to do every
26:55young farmers group, hopefully in Cambridgeshire. We've got our first dates coming up in April.
27:00Um, so that's why I want to get it in early. Young farmers groups start, you can start young farmers
27:04at a very early age to sort of build it up. It's hopefully something I can do every year to all
27:07the groups. So it's, it's there. I still remember when I was at Sparshot College, um, we had a police
27:12officer come in because the Sparshot College was outside of Winchester. It's an agricultural college.
27:17I can still remember the chat that the local police officer gave us. And I want it to be
27:21sort of like that. I want it when they get onto their tractor and they've got 18 tonne of grain
27:26on the back and they're about to pull out onto a busy main road again. I remember what Tom said to
27:30me and maybe I should just get someone to stand on the other side of the road and wave me out. Or
27:33maybe we should put a sign down the road saying, slow, tractor's turning. Um, and hopefully that'll make
27:39a difference. And then I'll be, I'll be very happy. Yeah, definitely. It seems very worthwhile.
27:44Um, and, uh, Brittany, what's, what's, uh, what's been your proudest moments?
27:50Um, the fact that I've managed to become a special, I think is quite a big thing for me. You know,
27:58you, you do need to put the time in to learn. You do need to sit a couple of knowledge check exams.
28:07Um, you know, I, I don't know everything about the law. I think I'd be lying if I said I was perfect.
28:15Um, but yeah, the fact that it was, uh, something that I took an interest in and I've managed to
28:22sort of realize my goal of joining as a special is, yeah, it's great. Um, in terms of actual things
28:33that I've contributed and done, um, there was a community engagement event that I'd gone to.
28:42And so they're in full uniform talking to the public and, you know, chatting about the area
28:50and things that are going on. And, um, there was a mother with a couple of quite young children
28:58and they looked really scared and they looked really nervous.
29:01And she came up to me and said, these children came to me in the back of a police car. They were
29:07taken from their family because it was no longer suitable. So their first interaction with the police
29:14wasn't a great one. Would you mind spending some time with them? And I knelt down, I walked them
29:20through my kit and just like their whole demeanor changed and they were like excited to try my hat
29:28on by the end of it, which was really sweet. So yeah, that, that makes me proud knowing that
29:33I've turned somebody's negative experience into a positive one.
29:36Yeah. So it's that link between the public and the police again, isn't it?
29:39Yeah. Obviously, uh, you do as a special. Um, and just finally then, um, what would you say to any
29:47listeners who are maybe thinking that they might like to try being a special? I mean, what would,
29:51what would be your message? Uh, it is something you, you shouldn't take lightly. It is a lot
29:58of commitment. It is a lot of commitment, but it's worthwhile in the long run. I was so worried
30:03about doing it at 40, whether I'd be getting too later on to sort of join and do this.
30:09And maybe I was too rural to do it, but maybe, um, but I can honestly say if you're committed,
30:14it's the best thing you'll ever do. And the rewards are the best rewards you'll ever get.
30:19You'll be absolutely shattered some nights. Some nights aren't going to be the best nights,
30:21but when you do have something and you've made that difference and you're coming home and you're
30:25sat in your car and you're like, I really did make a difference tonight. And I really did make
30:29that person feel safe. Or I looked after that person in their worst hour. And then that gives you
30:35all you need to carry on. Yeah. Okay. 40 is nothing, Tom.
30:39I know, but that's a 40, isn't it?
30:43Brittany, what would be your message? Um, much like Tom has said, you know, don't take it lightly.
30:48It is something that you do need to commit to. Um, but also don't be afraid of that. You know,
30:56everything that you do in life, you can only do what you can with the knowledge you have. You're never
31:00going to get it right first time. If you do, fantastic. But just absolutely, yeah,
31:08think about all of the things that you could bring as a person and how that translates into
31:16when you put the uniform on. You'd be surprised with the things that you can achieve.
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