00:00research and discovery. Even under pressure, I could not replace evidence with ideology
00:07or compromise my integrity.
00:10Dr. Morniz, you're almost out of time. I'll be generous, but if you could speed up just a little.
00:16Vaccine policy must be guided by credible data, not predetermined outcomes.
00:20As I wrote in my...
00:21...an exchange where I had suggested that I would be open to changing childhood vaccine schedules
00:27if the evidence or science were supportive. And he responded that there was no science or evidence
00:34associated with the childhood vaccine schedule. And he elaborated that CDC had never collected
00:41the science or the data to make it available related to the safety and efficacy.
00:46To be clear, he said there was not science or data, but that you still expected you to change the schedule.
00:52Correct.
00:53Okay. Dr. Owry.
00:54It concerns me. It really concerns me. As you are aware, and Dr. Owry can elaborate on,
01:02these are very important, highly technical discussions that have life-saving implications
01:09for our children and others who need vaccines. And if you don't have the commensurate skill sets
01:15or the ability to ask the right questions, and you're willing to sign off on decisions that are not
01:24made with the best available data and evidence, it does put at risk our children. It puts at risk
01:31others who need these vaccines. And it takes us into a very dangerous place in public health.
01:37That morning, I had been clear that I was not going to fire scientists, that I was not going to
01:46pre-commit to pre-approving vaccine recommendations without data and science.
01:51I had been very alarmed at the demands. And I had reached out as part of what I understood my obligations
02:03to communicate that to this committee. The secretary became aware of that. And in the context of those
02:12activities, he told me he could not trust me. I told him that if he could not trust me, he could fire me.
02:26I served 10 years at CDC under six directors and four administrations. In each case, priorities shifted,
02:37but decisions were grounded in evidence, transparency, and consultation with the world's best
02:42scientists. That has changed. I resigned because CDC leaders were reduced to rubber stamps,
02:50supporting policies not based in science, and putting American lives at risk.
02:56Secretary Kennedy censored CDC science, politicized its processes, and stripped leaders of independence.
03:04I could not, in good conscience, remain under those conditions.
03:13Gabrie Harley are one of the struggles to know everybody he can identify by across cons and
03:17an hour.
03:22Thank you so much for being here.
03:24Repeat this time.
03:26If you are every legal institution or bowl up in Greece, please sign the way.
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