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00:00only in theaters. Just for context, I'm open to learning and being informed, but
00:07I do believe we have a disagreement when it comes to DEI. You think it stands for
00:11didn't earn it. Essentially that colleges are dropping the bar, but I think
00:15they're just opening the door. So for example, a recent Harvard analysis by
00:24Topic Economics found that students from that wealthiest 1% of families are 13
00:27times more likely to score in the 1,300 plus range for the SAT SAT than students
00:32from the poorest families. And I don't think that's because rich kids are 13
00:35times smarter, but it's because they have access to better schools, private tutors,
00:39test prep, everything, right? And according to the University of California, they show
00:45that family background accounts for 40% of the variance in SAT
00:50scores among UC applicants. I would also like to mention that the diversity in
01:00society's leaders, the casual effects of admissions at highly selective private
01:04colleges, a study shown by the National Bureau of Economic Research, that I think
01:11that if you think it's based on race, at times I think it's based on wealth. So
01:15legacy applicants, children of donors, and recruited athletes were significantly more
01:19likely to be admitted than other students with the same academic
01:22credentials. So yeah, these schools like Harvard, legacy students are about five
01:27to six times more likely to be admitted than non-legacy students with
01:33similar SAT scores. Roughly 43% of white students admitted to Harvard from
01:382000 to 2015 fell into one of the four categories, right? Legacy, athletes,
01:44things interest list or children of faculty or staff. Three quarters of these ALDC admits,
01:5075%, would not have been admitted if evaluated only on academic production.
01:55What's the question?
01:57My question is, I guess, do you believe that DEI could possibly not stand for diversity equity and didn't earn it,
02:12but can stand for actual diversity, that diversity of abilities. When you go into a job or to a school,
02:18they don't just ask for your SAT score. They ask what kind of clubs you were into. They ask you to submit an essay.
02:25They look at, they are a holistic academic review. So why, why do you think it doesn't,
02:32didn't, it means didn't earn it? If maybe they got a less SAT score, but them as a person are just more well-rounded
02:41than the person who had all these tutors, but did nothing outside of it.
02:46What, what, yeah. Tell me about, do you know anything about the students for fair admission case,
02:50the Supreme Court case at Harvard?
02:52I would love to hear about it.
02:52Yeah. So basically at Harvard, Asian and white students, they basically got two to 400 points
02:58knocked off of their score versus black and Hispanic students. So it was disenfranchising white
03:04and Asian students. So if you support DEI, let's say you're in charge, you're in charge. Do you think
03:11that we should have all test scores be weighed the same? Or do you think that certain ethnic groups
03:17should get certain points because of their race?
03:19I believe that we should acknowledge the fact that certain students have a different starting point.
03:26And I would love to give everybody the opportunity to get into school.
03:28So how many points should a black student get over a white student in admissions?
03:32I think that SAT scores and points shouldn't be the only thing referenced.
03:36But you have to answer the question because the status quo...
03:39But it's not that black and white.
03:40It is. So it is. Because that's, that's why affirmative action was struck down by the Supreme Court.
03:45We're not talking about affirmative action. We're talking about DEI.
03:47DEI is an outgrowth. Affirmative action is an outgrowth of DEI and vice versa. But let me give you
03:51another example of DEI. Do you think if I say to a group, let's say of Hispanic and black people,
03:58if I say you people, is that a microaggression? Say that again. I'm so sorry.
04:02If I was talking to a group of Hispanic or black people, and I happen to say you people,
04:07is that a microaggression? I would think so, yes.
04:10Okay. I think that's insane. Why?
04:13Because it's not a microaggression or racism to call any group of people you people.
04:17That's DEI in practice. So you guys might know about the group of clowns and the circus group of the Dean
04:23on F America thing. They fell apart in one week because one black woman called Dean and Parker racist
04:29because they were associated with a woman who called a group of black women, you people.
04:35And they said, you did not recognize microaggression. That's DEI in practice where you could lose your entire
04:40job and your career for one misstatement. And you just, you just showed it to me.
04:45Like you think that's a microaggression to say you people to a group of Hispanic and black people.
04:49We should not be policing the speech of people. Instead, we should be carrying out one thing,
04:53and that's merit and merit only when we put together our institution.
04:57But if you base it on meritocracy, like I said, you're initially bringing in wealthy people who
05:02have these tutors, but aren't well-rounded.
05:04So what? That doesn't mean anything. Yes. The degree of how good your parents are matter.
05:09Yes. If you have good parents, you get something that people with bad parents don't get.
05:13That's applicable beyond college.
05:15But with the people who score higher, let's say they didn't do anything.
05:17I mean, they are less likely to be able to take on challenges than the people who,
05:23why wouldn't it matter?
05:24Because inherently you are penalizing those with good parents. The only way you can make this work.
05:28You're not penalizing them.
05:29Yes, you are.
05:29No, you're not excluding them.
05:30Not true. It is the only way we see this. In order to elevate equity, you must compromise excellence.
05:36And that's fine if that's your position, because there's only so many spots, there's only so many places.
05:40And if you have a lot of qualified people and you want to try to get not as qualified people, you have to prevent the qualified people and elevate the unqualified people.
05:47That's what the students who are fair admissions case showed us.
05:50You're thinking that DEI is versus excellence. I think DEI is for excellence.
05:54Got it. Show me one institution that got better, the more embraced DEI.
05:58One institution that got better, the more embraced DEI.
06:01That got smarter, more competitive, leaner, more productive, and that was better than it was 10 years ago.
06:06Are our airports more efficient? Are we landing planes better? Are our airlines better? Is our government better? Is our schools better? Is our universities better?
06:14I mean, show me one example. Is our public health authorities better?
06:18Show me one institution that's embraced DEI that has become better, more excellent than it was 20 years ago.
06:23It doesn't exist. DEI will destroy an institution from within.
06:27Let me ask you another question.
06:29When people, when COVID happened, they removed the SAT scores, yet the graduation rates for Harvard were still the same.
06:34Do you think that because of, sorry, with that being said, since ACT wasn't even considered,
06:42schools are accepting people with the potential to succeed?
06:44Because once you get in, you're still going off the same merit as everybody else.
06:48A lot of people drop out that are, you know, the problem with Harvard is that they now have professors,
06:53the ton of them that are saying they have to retake courses and remedial courses because these kids should never be here in the first place.
06:58And there happen to be a lot of black and Hispanic kids that were let in strictly because of the color of their skin.
07:03And I, so I guess my question is, do you care about the racial makeup of a college?
07:09The racial makeup of a college?
07:11Like if a college was all white or all Asian, would that bother you?
07:15I think it would stop them from being able to see different perspectives and thus improve their systems and improve the quality of their operations.
07:24But why is diversity only skin color?
07:26Can't a bunch of white people also disagree?
07:27Well, think of it this way, if you, if I, like, like my mom went to the hospital or something,
07:32and let's say she, her English is good, but her Spanish isn't, her Spanish is good, but the English not so much, right?
07:39It would help that if a person who is Hispanic or no Spanish would be the one helping her,
07:44she'd feel more comfortable with that person because she understands and relates.
07:46Okay. I mean, yeah, you're in America, you should learn English.
07:51I don't know what to tell you, but.
07:53No, she is.
07:54Good. I mean, I'm not trying to be insensitive or cruel.
07:56She understands English, but she would rather be with a Hispanic nurse versus one that doesn't so she could speak comfortably.
08:02As an organization, you must prioritize something.
08:04We think that excellence should be, we must have an uncompromising pursuit and commitment to excellence and not equity.
08:11And we believe the more that we embrace these mediocre, this kind of cultural mediocrity, excellence will slip.
08:18And, again, I could go through, at the core, DEI wants a lot of things, including racial quotas.
08:24We don't believe in racial quotas.
08:26Our best institutions would fall apart with racial quotas.
08:29We want excellence quotas and the best and the ones that earned it to be able to get in those positions.
08:33Thank you for your good faith conversation.
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