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Panayam kay Council for the Welfare of Children Executive Director, Usec. Angelo Tapales ukol sa paglaganap at evolution ng A.I. generated child sexual abuse materials

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00:00Paglaganap at evolusyon ng AI-generated child sexual abuse materials,
00:05ating tatalakayin kasama si Undersecretary Angelo Tapales,
00:09Executive Director ng Council for the Welfare of Children.
00:13Yusek Tapales, magandang tanghali po at welcome po sa Bagong Pilipinas ngayon.
00:18Isang makabatang umaga po, Mga Cheryl, Asep Joey,
00:23thank you for inviting the Council for the Welfare of Children po.
00:26Yusek, una po, sa ngayon, paano po ninyo ilalarawan
00:29ang pag-evolve ng paggamit ng artificial intelligence
00:33sa paggawa ng child sexual abuse materials sa nakaraang mga taon.
00:39Yung AI-cissm na tinatawag, yung AI-generated child sexual abuse materials,
00:45actually, as early as February 2024,
00:48nag-alarm na ang Council for the Welfare of Children dyan
00:51kasi po, unti-unti po kasing lumalaganap na yan sa ibang bansa na monitor po namin.
00:57And ito nga po, Ma'am Cheryl, nakakalungkot isipin
01:02kasi noong June 16, 2025,
01:05si Queen Hera, isang Filipina influencer, content creator yan,
01:10in-announce niya na yung anak niya,
01:12di umonay na biktima ng isang AI-generated picture
01:15na binibenta na 1,500.
01:18So, this marked perhaps the first reported AI-generated society in the Philippines.
01:23Pag tinignan naman po natin yung globally nakakabahala,
01:27Ma'am Cheryl at Asik Joey,
01:30kasi batay po sa National Center for Missing and Exploited Children,
01:34ito po yung neck-neck na tinatawag,
01:37from 4,700 reports noong 2023,
01:41itong AI-generated society ay tumalon sa 67,000 reports noong 2024.
01:46So, that's about 1,325% increase from 2023 figures po.
01:55Yusek, bakit itinuturing na hindi victimless crime
02:00ang AI-generated child sexual abuse materials
02:03kahit wala naman pong totoong bata ang involved o kasama rito?
02:07Apo, Asik Joey, very good question po yan.
02:10Kasi talagang mainit ang aming paninigigan
02:13na this is not a victimless crime.
02:15And let me explain this.
02:16Number one, Republic 11930
02:20already covers AI-generated si Saem.
02:23Meron tayong portion dyan na dinidefine yung mga
02:26image-based sexual abuse yan ay pinagbabawal.
02:30At the fact that image-based sexual abuse
02:34which includes deep fakes
02:36can be prosecuted under the Anti-Osaic-Saem Act
02:39it means it's a public crime.
02:41People of the Philippines yan
02:43versus person A, pang ikaway nag-violate.
02:45So, it is not a victimless crime
02:47in the sense that the Republic of the Philippines
02:50sues the offender on behalf of the people.
02:53Number two, it is also not a victimless crime
02:56even if it doesn't involve any specific child.
02:59Kunyari po, because it victimizes
03:02the child sector at the whole.
03:04Pag pinalagana po natin yan
03:05at pinayagang lumaganap
03:08dahil po tinatawag nating victimless crimes
03:11number one, we involved bad actors to create it
03:14kasi sinasabi natin wala namang bata.
03:17Number two, the creation of AIC-Saem
03:20demeans, degrades, and debases
03:26the intrinsic worth of all children.
03:28So, if we normalize this,
03:30we are normalizing sexual abuse of children.
03:33So, hindi po tayo makapayag
03:34na yan ay tinatawag na victimless crime
03:36kasi on a legal perspective
03:38or using a child lens perspective,
03:42victim ako ang buong child rights sector po natin yan,
03:45ang buong children's sector sa Pilipinas.
03:47Yusek, ano po yung posibleng psychological
03:51at emotional effect sa mga batang nakikita sa larawan
03:55o nakikita yung kanilang identity
03:57sa ganitong klaseng material?
04:00Yan po, Director Cheryl,
04:03while there is no physical touching,
04:06kunyari,
04:06there is severe psychological and emotional trauma po
04:10sa mga bata na mabibiktima ng ganyan.
04:12Kasi, sabi nga nila,
04:13walang forever,
04:14pero baka sa internet po may forever.
04:16So, we can just imagine
04:18the difficulty of taking down
04:19these pictures
04:21and every sharing
04:23or resharing of that particular
04:24child sexual abuse material
04:26is really
04:26revictimization and retraumatization po
04:29ang katapat yan.
04:30So, talaga pong nakakatakot siya.
04:32Yusek, sa ngayon ba nakikita natin
04:35na lalaki pa itong component na ito,
04:38itong mga material na ito
04:40sa pag-normalize ng ganitong klaseng pang-abuso
04:43at pagsasamantala sa ating mga kabataan?
04:48We anticipate that it has the potential
04:51to be really disruptive.
04:53It will compound our existing
04:55serious o saik problem.
04:58Kasi po, nakita po natin,
04:59globally, talagang tumalun siya.
05:02From 4,700 noong 2023,
05:04naging 67,000 sa ngayong 2024.
05:08Kaya itong mga AI technologies po kasi na ito,
05:10Asik, Joey,
05:12hindi po kailangang mahal to.
05:13Hindi to hard to find.
05:14These are off-the-shelf,
05:16readily available,
05:17general team AI
05:18na ginagamit natin
05:19for legitimate concerns
05:22like studying and research
05:24na pwede pa lang
05:25gamitin din sa pag-create
05:27na material.
05:29So, kailangan po natin bantayin yan
05:31kaya while we say
05:33that it is not
05:34a victimless crime,
05:35we are open to
05:36perhaps enhancing
05:38the Anti-OSAICS design
05:39or its implementing rules
05:41and regulations
05:42para po mas mapalakas pa po natin
05:43dahil mukhang mapapalaban po
05:45ang ating
05:45mga law enforcement agencies po dito.
05:48Yung SEG,
05:50sa ilalim po ng
05:51RA-11930
05:52o Anti-OSAICS design act,
05:55ano po yung specific provisions
05:57na direktang sumasaklaw
05:59sa paggamit ng AI
06:00para po sa child exploitation?
06:03Opo,
06:03ito po ano,
06:04yung section 3J,
06:063J,
06:08Jack,
06:09ito po yung sumasaklaw
06:12sa image-based sexual abuse,
06:14yung IS or image-based sexual abuse
06:17covers artificial intelligence
06:20to construct deep-faith
06:21and pornographic videos
06:22at yung pag-share po yan
06:24ay pinagbabawal din.
06:25Meron din pong provision dito
06:27about
06:28yung sexualization of children.
06:31Dinefine yan sa section 3
06:33and penalize under section 4
06:35of the Anti-OSAICS act.
06:37Even if there is no particular child,
06:39if you spread it
06:40and you allow the spread,
06:41we are sexualizing children
06:43by doing that
06:45because we are making them
06:46the subject of fantasies,
06:49yung mga prurient desires
06:50sa mga kabastusan
06:51ng mga masasamang tao.
06:53So,
06:53whether it's
06:54image-based sexual abuse
06:56or whether it's
06:57sexualization of children,
06:59pareho pong pinaparusahan
07:01ng mahigpit po yan
07:02ng Anti-OSAICS type act.
07:04Nabanggit nyo kanina
07:05yung second passing
07:06yung mas maigting
07:08na pakikipag-ugnayan
07:09sa law enforcement
07:11para po talaga
07:12ma-implement
07:15ng mas mahigpit
07:16itong
07:16RA-11930.
07:19So,
07:20kamusta po yung
07:20pakikipag-ugnayan nyo
07:21sa law enforcement units
07:23and other agencies
07:24given na
07:26very recently lang
07:27po tayo nagkaroon
07:29nung
07:29kumbaga case
07:30o example
07:31nung
07:31June 16,
07:332025?
07:35Asik,
07:36Joey,
07:36starting nung
07:372022,
07:38nilaunch po namin
07:39yung makabata
07:39helpline 1383
07:41and yun nga,
07:42February 2024,
07:43nagsound na kami
07:44ng alarm dito
07:45sa AICSAM
07:46dahil nakikita namin
07:48na pwedeng problemahin
07:49ito sa ating bansa.
07:50We have executed
07:52a lot of MOUs
07:53with the law enforcement
07:54agencies
07:55starting with the
07:56PNP,
07:57Women and Children
07:57Protection Center
07:58and the
07:59Anti-Cyber Crime Group
08:00para po sa mga
08:00takedowns,
08:01the NBI,
08:02partner din po namin
08:03and of course
08:04the DOJ.
08:05We are also a member
08:06of the National
08:06Coordination Center
08:07for Osaic and
08:08SSAEM.
08:09This is the
08:09body created
08:11under RA-11930.
08:13So,
08:14dyan po pinag-aaralan
08:15yung pagawa ng
08:15guidelines to really
08:17see the cooperation
08:19of our telecoms
08:21and internet
08:21intermediaries
08:22para may self-policing
08:23din na nagagana
08:24para sa mga ganitong
08:25materials po.
08:26Hopefully,
08:26it comes out soon
08:27kasi kailangan talagang
08:29masigpitan pa natin
08:30ang sinturon
08:31so to speak
08:31para po talaga
08:32mapigil po ito.
08:34Yusik,
08:34meron po ba kayong
08:35nakikitang gaps
08:36o kakulangan
08:37sa kasalukuyang
08:38batas
08:39na kailangan
08:40tugunan
08:40dahil sa mabilis
08:41na pag-develop
08:42ng artificial intelligence?
08:46Siguro,
08:46kailangan lang
08:47mas clearly
08:48i-define pa.
08:49Not really
08:50sa batas
08:50siguro,
08:51kasi
08:51katulad nga
08:53nung binanggit ko
08:53kanina,
08:54it's already
08:54covered by
08:55section 3J.
08:56But if
08:57there could be
08:58amendments or
08:59enhancements,
08:59okay din naman.
09:00Pero siguro,
09:01kahit
09:01amendment lang
09:02sa implementing
09:03rules and
09:03regulation
09:04just to clearly
09:05define what
09:05AI is.
09:06Kasi sa
09:07ibang bansa,
09:09clearly define
09:09naman ang AI.
09:11It's any
09:11intelligence,
09:12other human
09:13intelligence,
09:13medyo common
09:14sense naman
09:14kasi siya.
09:15Pero if we
09:16can put
09:16clear
09:17parameters,
09:18kunyari,
09:19sa implementing
09:20rules and
09:20regulations,
09:21that would
09:21of course
09:22help our
09:22prosecution
09:23side,
09:23yung mga
09:24DOJ
09:25prosecutors
09:25po natin.
09:26Nabanggit
09:27nyo yung
09:27papel
09:28ng mga
09:29telco,
09:30pati ng
09:30mga
09:30tech
09:30companies
09:31kanina,
09:32use
09:32to
09:32police
09:33yung
09:34ating
09:34internet
09:36for such
09:37content.
09:37Ano
09:38naman
09:38po yung
09:38papel
09:39ng mga
09:39social
09:39media
09:40platform
09:40mismo
09:41para
09:42po
09:42talaga
09:42hindi
09:43lumaganap
09:43yung
09:44ganitong
09:44klaseng
09:44abusive
09:45materials?
09:47Opo.
09:48As
09:48Joey,
09:49good
09:49question.
09:50Doon
09:50sa
09:51malawak
09:51na term
09:52na
09:52internet
09:52intermediary,
09:53kasama
09:54po yung
09:54social
09:54media
09:55po
09:55dyan.
09:56So under
09:57the
09:57anti-ocix
09:58asa
09:58emak,
09:58talaga
09:58meron
09:59mga
09:59pinag-uutos
10:00din sa
10:00kanila
10:00na
10:01dapat
10:01nilang
10:02gawin
10:02katulad
10:03ng
10:03mga
10:03age
10:03verification
10:04protocols,
10:05mga
10:06measures
10:07to
10:07protect
10:07children.
10:08At
10:08siyempre
10:08po,
10:09pag
10:09meron
10:10pong
10:10nag-report
10:10sa
10:10kanila,
10:11they
10:11have
10:11to
10:12cooperate
10:12with
10:13our
10:13prosecutors
10:13and
10:14our
10:14law
10:14enforcement
10:15agencies
10:15regarding
10:16the
10:16takedown
10:17of
10:17materials,
10:18the
10:18preservation
10:18of
10:19materials
10:19for
10:19prosecution
10:20purposes.
10:21At
10:21ito
10:22ay
10:22mas
10:22lilinawin
10:23pa
10:23when
10:23the
10:23guidelines
10:24relating
10:26to
10:26internet
10:27intermediaries
10:27come out.
10:28So
10:28yan po
10:29ay
10:29pinapinalize
10:31din na yan
10:31ng ating
10:32DOJ,
10:33NCC,
10:34OSA,
10:34XSA,
10:35M,
10:35at
10:35makikibalita.
10:36Yusik,
10:39meron po
10:39bang
10:39susunod
10:40na
10:40programa
10:41o
10:41inisiyatibo
10:42ang
10:42CWC
10:43para po
10:44mas
10:44maprotektahan
10:45ang mga
10:45bata
10:46laban
10:46sa
10:46AI-powered
10:47sexual
10:48exploitation?
10:50Opo,
10:51ang
10:51ginawa
10:51po
10:51namin
10:52recently
10:53at
10:53ito
10:53yung
10:53kasabay
10:54din
10:54sa
10:54effort
10:55namin
10:55naman
10:55sa
10:55bullying,
10:56yung
10:56makabata
10:57helpline
10:571383
10:58natin
10:58pursuant
10:59to
10:59EO79
11:00series
11:00of
11:012024,
11:02it
11:02has
11:02been
11:03designated
11:04as the
11:04central
11:05reporting
11:05mechanism
11:06of
11:06the
11:06government
11:06kasi
11:07for
11:07children.
11:08Ang
11:08ginawa
11:08natin
11:093
11:09weeks
11:09ago,
11:10ginawa
11:10na
11:10natin
11:11silang
11:1124-7.
11:12So,
11:13all reports
11:13concerning
11:14sexual
11:14abuse
11:15and even
11:15online
11:16or AI-generated
11:17sexual
11:18abuse,
11:18you can
11:19report
11:19to
11:19the
11:19Makabata
11:20helpline
11:201383.
11:21We are
11:22close
11:22partnership
11:23with
11:23the
11:23PNP
11:24nga po.
11:24We can
11:25help
11:25you,
11:26we can
11:26refer
11:26you
11:27for
11:27legal
11:28advice
11:28kunyari
11:28sa
11:29DOJ
11:29or
11:29PAO.
11:31And
11:31for
11:31takedown
11:31naman po,
11:32we can
11:32facilitate
11:33or endorse
11:34you to
11:34the
11:34PNP
11:35Anti-Cyber
11:36Crime
11:36Group
11:36or the
11:36NBI.
11:38Alright.
11:39Maraming salamat
11:40po sa inyong
11:40oras.
11:41Undersecretary
11:42Angelo Tapales,
11:43ang Executive
11:44Director
11:44ng Council
11:45for the
11:45Welfare
11:46of Children.
11:47Thank you,
11:47sir.

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