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00:00Hi there, everyone. It's 4 p.m. in New York City on a somber day in our city's history,

00:07in our country's history, as we commemorate the 24th anniversary of the September 11th terror

00:13attacks. As a country, we're also beginning to process what feels like an eerie new normal

00:19of political violence in the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. He's the

00:24co-founder of Turning Point USA and a prominent right-wing activist. At this hour, the man

00:29hunt for the suspect in his shooting is still underway. The FBI has shared these two images

00:35of a person they are describing as a person of interest in connection to yesterday's shooting

00:40at Utah Valley University. The FBI is offering a reward of $100,000 for any information leading

00:48to the identification or arrest of the individual responsible. At a press conference this morning,

00:55officials also revealed what they have uncovered in their investigation so far. They say they now

01:01have video of the suspect as he entered the campus, went up to the roof, fired a single shot, and then

01:08fled. They have also recovered a high-powered rifle found near the scene that they believe delivered

01:14the fatal shot, and they have foot and palm prints from the suspect. Kirk was gunned down as he was

01:22hosting the first stop in his fall college campus tour. Several eyewitnesses raised concerns about

01:28the security at the event. Unfortunately, there was no metal detectors. There was no, I mean,

01:36there was security by Charlie, but, you know, anybody could have shown up with whatever, unfortunately.

01:42I was expecting when I got here that I would have to pass through some kind of security,

01:47but that just wasn't a thing. No one checked the barcode or the QR code. There was no checkpoint to

01:56get in. It was just literally anyone could walk in if they wanted. Kirk's death has shaken political

02:04leaders and public figures all across the ideological spectrum. It has ignited calls for revenge from some

02:11prominent voices in the MAGA media ecosystem. Today, some elected leaders from both political parties

02:18seemed intent on coaxing the country away from that abyss.

02:23We cannot let what happened yesterday be the norm, and unfortunately, we've seen politics degrading

02:30where some people feel if they disagree with you politically, they've got to try to go and eliminate

02:35those people. The idea is that we treat one another with dignity and respect, and somebody who's arguing the

02:41other side of an issue is not your enemy. They're your fellow American, and you ought to regard them

02:45as such. Coming together is what we ought to be doing, not pointing fingers of blame.

02:51This moment requires leadership that brings the American people together as opposed to trying

02:57to further divide us. Political violence in any form against any American is unacceptable.

03:05FBI Director Cash Patel is right now on his way to Utah. Officials are expected to provide

03:11an update on the investigation once he arrives there. It's where we start today with Ken Delanian.

03:17He is the justice and intelligence correspondent for MSNBC. He has not slept much in 24 hours. Also

03:22joining us, former Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the Department of Justice,

03:28MSNBC Legal Analyst Mary McCord is here. Ken Delanian, just take us through,

03:34give me more than just the last hour. Just take me through what we have learned today.

03:40Yeah, well, there are a number of hopeful signs, Nicole, and I'm hearing from FBI sources that there

03:46were a number of positive leads briefed up the chain today. And the fact that Cash Patel and I believe

03:53Dan Bongino are on their way to Utah could be a good sign. You know, authorities canceled what had been a

03:58planned afternoon news conference saying that there were rapid developments in the case. That appears

04:03to be another good sign, although we need to be cautious given what happened last night where Cash

04:08Patel posted on X essentially that they had caught the shooter. I'm paraphrasing, but then two hours

04:14later had to acknowledge that no, in fact, the person that they had been interviewing was not the

04:18shooter and had been released. So that was not a great moment for the FBI. But the finding of the

04:26weapon that the developments that you described are all good developments that suggest that they

04:31are on the way to solving this case. Now, the grainy images, obviously, that were released were

04:37released because they weren't sufficient for the FBI's facial recognition software to come up with

04:43a match. Otherwise, they wouldn't have released those photos. They made that very clear. They would

04:47rather find this person on their own rather than because once you release the photos, you get an

04:51onslaught of tips from the public, some great and some not so great, and they have to follow all of

04:56them. So that's an enormous undertaking. There's also things they're not talking about, an enormous

05:01analysis of digital evidence, particularly cell phone location data from around the area of the

05:08shooting. They would no doubt have gotten all that information from the towers and from various

05:12private companies where you can acquire that information and to try to geolocate the shooter's

05:18devices if he or she had any with them at the time. So that would be a way that they could identify this

05:25person. But, you know, it's very frustrating. People want answers. There's a lot of pressure to solve this

05:31case immediately. And as we saw with the case of Luigi Mangione, it took authorities five days to track

05:38him down. And we could see a similar situation here. Nicole. Ken, when I was on the air yesterday,

05:44students from that campus, student journalists talked about essentially being, I don't know if

05:51lockdown is exactly what they were calling it, but asked to have police escorts on and off campus.

05:58BYU had also been sort of frozen in place. And I wonder if there's any sense of normalcy that's

06:05returned to the campus or the state. It seems like more so because once the authorities have declared

06:12that this was a targeted attack and that other people are not in danger, it paints a much different

06:18picture. Initially, they didn't know what they had. And so in the case of a mass shooter or a random

06:23act of violence, you would do that. You would lock down these campuses. But now they're saying, you know,

06:29they believe this was a political assassination. Charlie Kirk was targeted. And so this person is

06:33most likely trying to get away, not trying to attack other people. And so, you know, there's more of a

06:40sense of normalcy, but no one's going to sleep well until this person is caught, Nicole.

06:45And Ken, any information on what are Kash Patel and Dan Bongino going? Do we believe they're going

06:54to participate in an announcement? Do we believe they're going to bolster and support and expedite

07:00the investigation? Do we know exactly what the purpose of their trip is?

07:04Well, Utah officials have said that they are coming and that there will be a news conference

07:10when they arrive. So what that means exactly, we don't know. Is it just another update on progress

07:15in the case? I have been obviously talking to sources and trying to find out information about

07:21what they have. And I have not been told that any arrest has been made or that a suspect has been

07:26captured. But, you know, I'm told that there are positive developments. And they've said publicly

07:31rapid developments in the case. And so that's a good sign. And the fact that Kash Patel and Dan

07:35Bongino are coming out there could be a good sign. I mean, look, they've come under a lot of

07:39criticism. These are two men who have no experience in the FBI before they got these jobs or in senior

07:47law enforcement jobs, for that matter, and who are spending a lot of time on social media and appear

07:52to be very concerned with their political image and their status with the White House. And so it's not

07:57surprising that they're going to the scene. You know, whether that helps the investigation or not

08:02is an open question. Mary, before we turn to, I guess, the events of the last 24 hours and the

08:13shockwaves that this political assassination have seemingly ignited in our country, I want to ask you

08:21from your national security days what you see and what you feel and what you're hearing, if anything,

08:29from the Justice Department. Well, you know, we don't hear that much from the Justice Department

08:35anymore about domestic extremist violence. And I'm not sure exactly what the status of is within the

08:45national security division of sort of the teams that were set up to focus on that. And of course,

08:51I'm worried that similarly in the FBI, which had been really surging resources over the last 10

08:58years, even since I was still in the national security division, had really devoted a lot more

09:04resources to the domestic extremist violence threat, the domestic terrorist threat. And it's not clear at

09:09all with so many firings and so many changes within the Bureau, whether that expertise is still there.

09:16And if it is, whether people with the expertise are actually in the positions to be using that

09:21expertise. What we know we've seen is increasing acts of political violence. And some of the recent,

09:31I mean, we can go back actually several years, but some of even just looking recently at the violent

09:36attacks, you know, political violence is vast. It's not just shootings like this. It's things like

09:42threats and intimidation that make people feel uncomfortable being an elect, you know, running

09:48for election or being election official or voting or exercising First Amendment rights, etc. But these

09:55more recent attacks, I mean, we were talking about assassinations, we're talking about, you know,

10:01killings, not just of people perceived to be on the right, but also perceived to be on the left. And so

10:08this is an escalatory thing that if I were still in the department would be very, very high on my

10:17list of concerns. And here we are today, right on the anniversary of 9-11, a massive international

10:24terrorist attack on the United States. Obviously, we haven't seen anything that big. But these individual

10:31incidents can be really terrorizing for people who are out going about their lives. These were

10:38students who came to see Charlie Kirk speak, and this incident happened. So this is something that

10:44really deserves resources, because you don't want to be in the position we're in right now,

10:48where you're investigating after the fact, you want to lose, use whatever tools you have at your

10:53disposal, consistent with the Constitution, to try to prevent attacks before they happen. It's hard to do.

11:00It is really hard to do. And it takes resources.

11:02Yeah, I think it was September of maybe the 10th or the 20th of September in the year 2020 when then

11:10FBI Director Christopher Wray said that domestic violent extremism is the greatest threat, that that

11:15was the biggest change in the post-9-11 years to what was then the challenge facing the FBI.

11:23I want to ask both of you to stay, but I want to bring into our coverage Steve Patterson, NBC News

11:30correspondent, and our colleague. He's on the ground in Orem, Utah. Steve, what are you hearing?

11:37You know, obviously, we've been here for about a day so far. This community, 96,000 Orem, Utah,

11:45really this campus at the next 47,000 students on campus, really at the nexus of multiple communities.

11:51And so we've been talking to folks on the ground. Obviously, I think there is a lot.

11:55I think actually, I should just say, I think people are in shock. I think this is where we're

11:59so often in these communities that have never experienced any level of gun violence. And

12:05unfortunately, another American city, another place that has experienced it. And people do not

12:10know how to handle it, especially the nature of this one, just characterized as an assassination

12:15on a college campus, again, at the nexus of several communities. And so I've spoken to people

12:19who have no affiliation, no students who go to this university, know nothing about this,

12:25didn't even know that Kirk was scheduled to speak at the time that he was, and obviously woke up to

12:31saw the tragic news or during the course of their day, saw the tragic news unfold over their TV screen,

12:37and were just horrified. I spoke to one couple, have a young daughter, about 22 years old, a young

12:43conservative. And they told me in speaking to their daughter, it really felt like, as they have lived

12:48through a lot of the political violence that they experienced during the 1960s. They said that

12:53in talking to their daughter, it felt like it was her JFK moment, specifically, obviously, for that

12:59young conservative movement that is growing in this country, that it felt like something that was so

13:04real and so familiar to them. And so there's been really a lot of that, a lot of people just sort of

13:09walking around dazed, makeshift memorials popping up all over campus, people bringing flowers. And again,

13:15these are people that didn't even know where this campus was, and have now decided to come here and

13:19show their respect. So obviously, community in healing, a community in mourning, and I think a

13:24community, as we're going on, a community that's still in shock. Let me, on that note, Steve, show you

13:31what the state's leader, the governor, Utah Governor Spencer Cox, had to say on this wave of political

13:38violence.

13:43Our nation is broken. We've had political assassinations recently in Minnesota. We had an attempted assassination

13:57on the governor of Pennsylvania, and we had an attempted assassination on a presidential candidate and

14:07former president of the United States, and now current president of the United States.

14:11Nothing I say can unite us as a country. Nothing I can say right now can fix what is broken.

14:22Nothing I can say can bring back Charlie Kirk. Our hearts are broken.

14:29Mary, let me come back to you on government efforts to deal with the extremism. I mean,

14:37obviously, the Utah governor there is referencing the targeted political assassinations of a Democratic

14:45lawmaker in Minnesota and her husband who were murdered. Another Democratic lawmaker was shot.

14:51The governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, is a Democratic lawmaker. Obviously, Donald Trump is a

14:57Republican. It is a problem that seems like too mild of a word, but it is a crisis

15:05that should be in front of everyone's face. And I wonder when you talk about the department orienting

15:16itself around these threats, and we've got sworn testimony from Christopher in 2020 that the biggest

15:24shift after post-9-11 for the department was that by far the greatest threat is domestic violent

15:30extremism. I think he goes on to say, and quote, the biggest bucket was right-wing violent extremism.

15:36I don't know. He's gone, and we haven't had testimony yet from these leaders. But I wonder

15:42whether you think there is a lack of tools and laws to fight the problem or a lack of will.

15:49So I think that right now it may be more of a lack of will, because one of the things that has been

15:57completely decimated in this administration is the Department of Homeland Security's outreach to

16:04communities project. It was called CP3, and it was about prevention. And it was about grant-making

16:12into communities and also visits and liaisoning with communities to help them engage in various

16:22different efforts, including research, as well as working with communities to build resilience and

16:28to prevent the types of polarization that lead to sometimes to acts of violence. There have been

16:35efforts also over the years to support a very much a ground local up, as opposed to federal down

16:42types of initiatives for early interventions. You know, I mentioned before, we want to be in the

16:48position of preventing it and not investigating it afterwards. And in some studies, up to 70% of

16:55cases involving terrorist violence, there was somebody in that person's orbit, a family member,

17:02a religious leader, a teacher, a coach, a social worker, et cetera, who did see something going

17:08awry with that person, did see some signs of radicalization toward violence.

17:14These are called bystanders. And most of the time, they don't come forward. And sometimes they

17:19don't come forward because they're worried they're going to get somebody in trouble, right? There's

17:23going to be a harsh consequence of the FBI coming and arresting them. And so you need to have other

17:28mechanisms working law enforcement with community members to allow for interventions that people are

17:36comfortable making that don't involve necessarily the strong-armed tactics, right, of law enforcement

17:44and arrest, but allow for there to be mechanisms to intervene. And I'll say, you know, social media

17:51and getting glued to even, you know, the online digital environment, in every case of terrorism that

17:58I was involved in prosecuting or making charging decisions about when I was in the National Security

18:05Division and even in the U.S. Attorney's Office, and I was there through the height of ISIS,

18:10every single one of those cases involved the use of internet and social media as something that

18:18helped that radicalize that person. Consuming extremist content online was a feature of every

18:25single case. We need to get off of our devices. We need to get outside and commune with other people

18:32because other studies show when you're face-to-face with people, you're way less rude,

18:38you're way more civil, and you're way more able to see the humanity in other people. It's very easy

18:45and cruel and call people terrorists and worse when it's just on your device.

18:52I want to do two things. I want to thank Ken Delaney, and not just for today, but for all

18:58the reporting you've supplied to all of us and all of our shows in the last 30 hours. Thank you so

19:03much. Steve Patterson, thank you for your reporting on the ground. And to both of you, if there are any

19:07developments, just wave your arms. We'll get you right back on the air immediately. Mary, I'm going to

19:12ask you to stick around the rest of the hour with us. Ahead for us, the former acting FBI director

19:19and two other former top FBI officials with decades of experience among them are suing

19:25Director Cash Fatale and members of the Trump administration for what they say is, quote,

19:30politically motivated retribution.

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