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00:00Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
00:04And Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Secretary, you may make your opening statement at this time.
00:10Thank you, Chairman Cravo, and thank you, Ranking Member Wyden.
00:15The invitation would be here before the committee today.
00:18Before I summarize what we've accomplished this year at HHS,
00:22I want to express my deepest condolence to the family of DeKalb County Police Officer David Rose,
00:28who gave his life to stop the gunfire attack on the CDC on August 8th.
00:35Officer Rose was a veteran. He was a husband and the father of two children.
00:41Officer Rose's widow, whom I visited, is expecting their third child.
00:47I'd like Officer Rose's family to know that he remains in our prayers
00:52and that he will continue to be in our thoughts.
00:55Let me start with the big picture.
00:57Under President Trump's leadership, we at HHS are enacting a once-in-a-generation shift
01:03from a sick care system to a true health care system
01:07that tackles the root causes of chronic disease.
01:11Chronic disease has reached crisis proportions in our country.
01:14And finally, we have an administration that is taking action.
01:17The Maha Report assessment, which the White House released in May,
01:22was the first government analysis of the key drivers of childhood chronic disease.
01:28Ultra-processed foods, chemical exposures, physical inactivity, and over-medicalization.
01:36This month, we will follow with the Maha Report strategy,
01:39the Trump administration's solution for addressing each cause.
01:43At HHS, we haven't just been writing reports.
01:48We have been the busiest, most proactive administration in HHS history.
01:54In just half a year, we've taken on food dyes, baby formula contamination,
01:59contamination, the grass loophole, fluoride in our drinking water,
02:05gas station heroin, electronic cigarettes, drug prices,
02:09prior authorization, information blocking.
02:11The committee will come to order.
02:25I apologize to you for that outburst, Secretary Kennedy.
02:38I would notify everyone else in the audience.
02:41Comments from the audience are inappropriate.
02:45If there are any further disruptions,
02:48the committee will recess until the police can restore order.
02:51Mr. Secretary, please proceed.
02:54As I was saying, prior authorization, information blocking,
02:58and health care interoperability,
03:01we're ending gain-of-function research, child mutilation,
03:05and reducing animal testing.
03:08We are addressing cell phone use in schools,
03:11excessive screen time for youth,
03:14the lack of nutrition education in our medical schools,
03:18sickle cell anemia, hepatitis C,
03:21the East Palestine chemical spill, and many, many others.
03:24At FDA, we are now on track to approve more drugs this year
03:30than at any time in history.
03:33I'm also proud to say that HHS under President Trump
03:36is doing more with less.
03:39We have taken measures to fight waste, fraud, and abuse.
03:42Just by eliminating duplicative enrollments in CMS,
03:46we are saving taxpayers $14 billion a year.
03:50Meanwhile, we are expanding access for people who need it.
03:55We are ending races, diversity, equity, and inclusion practices,
03:59and instead focusing on aiding low-income and vulnerable families,
04:04regardless of their race,
04:07which was the original intent of Title X.
04:11We're also pouring a billion dollars into Head Start
04:14and the administration for children and families.
04:17Compassion need not be the casualty of efficiency.
04:21I'd like to highlight some issues
04:23that have not gotten media attention.
04:26First, we are doing our part
04:27to fill the president's commitment
04:30to stop human trafficking, especially of children.
04:34We inherited a terrible humanitarian crisis
04:37from the previous administration
04:38with its open border policies,
04:40which allowed the appalling loss
04:43of 476,000 unaccompanied children.
04:48We have implemented policies now
04:50to ensure that that appalling tragedy
04:52can never happen again.
04:54We have knocked on 82,000 doors
04:57and located 22,000 of those children.
05:01I promise you that we will do more
05:03in the next three years.
05:05We are also addressing
05:07the disastrous health conditions
05:08in tribal communities
05:10on Native American reservations.
05:13I've met face-to-face with tribal leaders
05:16in dozens of communities and tribes
05:19in Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, New Mexico, and elsewhere.
05:23And I look forward to making HHS resources
05:26more available to those communities.
05:29One of the most significant initiatives
05:32under President Trump
05:33is the Rural Health Transformation Fund,
05:36part of the president's big, beautiful bill,
05:38which will provide the greatest investment
05:40of federal money into rural health care in history.
05:43Senator Bennett.
05:44Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
05:46Mr. Secretary, in June,
05:48you fired every member...
05:50Mr. Secretary, are you...
05:51Mr. Secretary, may I have my time back, Mr. Chairman?
05:58Mr. Secretary, thank you for your attention.
06:00In June, you fired every member
06:02of the well-qualified panel
06:05that was charged with recommending vaccines
06:07to the CDC.
06:09No one in your job
06:11has ever fired every committee member
06:13all at once.
06:16That month, you told the American people
06:18that you were, quote,
06:19going to bring great people
06:20onto the ACIP panel,
06:22not anti-vaxxers.
06:25Are you aware that one of the people
06:26you put on the panel,
06:28Dr. Robert Malone,
06:29claimed that the commonly used
06:31mRNA, the vaccine,
06:34quote,
06:34causes a form of AIDS
06:35and can damage children's,
06:38quote, brains,
06:39their heart,
06:41their immune system,
06:42and their ability
06:43to have children
06:43in the future?
06:45Yes or no,
06:46Mr. Kennedy?
06:47And Dr. Malone
06:48is one of the inventors of the...
06:49Yes or no.
06:50Yes or no.
06:50Are you...
06:51Were you aware
06:51that he had that view
06:53when you appointed him
06:54to this panel?
06:54Dr. Malone
06:55is one of the...
06:57As I said,
06:58Dr. Malone
06:58is one of the inventors
07:00of the mRNA vaccine.
07:02So he knows a lot more about it.
07:03That statement...
07:04Mr. Chairman,
07:05that statement
07:06is not true
07:08that Dr. Malone made,
07:10just as it wasn't true
07:11when you wrote
07:12that, quote,
07:12African AIDS
07:14is entirely different
07:15from Western AIDS.
07:18Are you aware
07:19that another one
07:20of these new members,
07:22Dr. Levy wrote
07:23that, quote,
07:25evidence is mounting
07:26and indisputable
07:27that mRNA vaccines
07:29cause serious harm,
07:31including death,
07:33especially among young people?
07:35Yes or no?
07:35Are you aware
07:36that he said that?
07:37I wasn't aware
07:38he said it,
07:39but I think
07:39I agree with it.
07:40You agree with it?
07:41It's not true.
07:42It wasn't true
07:43when he said it.
07:44It is not true
07:45when you said it.
07:46Secretary Kennedy,
07:48later this month,
07:50your new panel
07:50will meet
07:51to consider
07:52changing vaccine
07:53recommendations
07:54for American children.
07:57In addition
07:57to the COVID-19 vaccines,
08:00they are set
08:00to review recommendations
08:02for the hepatitis B vaccine,
08:04for measles,
08:05for mumps,
08:06for rubella
08:06and varicella vaccine,
08:08and the RSV vaccine.
08:11These are common
08:12back-to-school
08:13vaccinations
08:14for children
08:15all over
08:16the industrialized world.
08:19If you change that,
08:20you owe parents
08:22in Colorado
08:23and across
08:24the country
08:25the benefit
08:26of some transparency,
08:28I think.
08:29If your panel
08:30recommends changing
08:31the vaccine schedule
08:32for children,
08:33do you anticipate
08:34that fewer children
08:36will receive
08:37these common
08:38vaccinations,
08:39yes or no?
08:40what I would say,
08:43Senator,
08:44The obvious answer
08:44is yes.
08:46Should parents
08:46and schools
08:47of Colorado
08:48be prepared
08:49for more measles outbreaks
08:51as a result of that,
08:52Mr. Secretary?
08:54Senator,
08:55how about more mumps outbreaks?
08:57I do not anticipate
09:00a change
09:01in the MMR vaccine.
09:03You know,
09:03AZIP is an independent panel.
09:06Well,
09:06it's a panel
09:07you just put
09:08those folks on
09:09far from what you said.
09:11There are people
09:12with ideas
09:14that are completely
09:15outside the mainstream.
09:17You mean
09:17out of the pharmaceutical paradigm?
09:19Let me just say,
09:20Mr. Secretary,
09:21all these vaccines
09:22that we're talking about today
09:23are free
09:24and accessible
09:25to parents
09:26today in America
09:28who have the freedom
09:29to be able to make
09:30that choice
09:31for their children.
09:32Will that be true
09:33after your hand-picked panel
09:35makes their judgments
09:36about these vaccines?
09:38I think that
09:39parents should be free
09:41to...
09:42I know.
09:42You've said that before.
09:43I do, too.
09:44To make their own choices.
09:46So will they be
09:47just as free
09:47after these vaccines?
09:48I assume they will be.
09:51I will hold you
09:52to that,
09:53Secretary Kennedy.
09:55Because this is not a podcast.
09:57It is
09:58the American people's health
10:00that's on the line here.
10:02This is the last thing,
10:03by the way,
10:03our parents need
10:05when their kids
10:06are going back to school.
10:07Is to have
10:08the kind of confusion
10:09and expense
10:11and scarcity
10:12that you're creating
10:14as a result
10:15of your ideology.
10:18I think it's critical
10:19for you to share
10:20the evidence
10:22that this panel
10:23will rely on.
10:24Will you give
10:25the American people
10:26six months
10:27or six weeks
10:27in advance
10:28the record
10:29that they're going
10:30to rely on
10:31to make these decisions?
10:32Will you make it
10:33transparent for
10:34the American people?
10:34All the evidence
10:35is transparent.
10:36Will you make it
10:37in advance transparent
10:38for the American people
10:39so they can comment on it?
10:41All the evidence
10:41is transparent
10:42for the first time
10:43in history
10:43and you were never
10:44there complaining
10:45when the pharmaceutical
10:46companies were picking
10:47those people
10:48and then running
10:49their products
10:50through with no safety testing.
10:51You can characterize
10:52it any way you want.
10:53I quoted them today.
10:55What I said
10:55was accurate.
10:57What you said
10:57were lies.
10:59Are you saying
11:00people are moving
11:02the Titanic?
11:04Are you saying
11:05that a dmRNA vaccine
11:06has never been
11:07associated
11:08with myocarditis
11:09or pericarditis
11:10in teenagers?
11:11I am saying
11:11I am simply
11:12trying to say
11:15that the people
11:16that you have
11:17put on that panel
11:18after firing
11:20the entire
11:21You're evading
11:21the question.
11:22You
11:22No, I'm asking
11:24the questions here
11:25Mr. Kennedy.
11:25You're evading that question.
11:26I'm asking the questions
11:27Mr. Kennedy.
11:28I'm asking the questions
11:30for Mr. Kennedy
11:31on behalf of
11:32parents
11:33and schools
11:34and teachers
11:35all over
11:37the United States
11:38of America
11:38who deserve
11:39so much better
11:41than your leadership.
11:42That's what
11:43this conversation
11:44is about
11:45Mr. Chairman.
11:46Senator,
11:46they deserve
11:47the truth
11:48and that's what
11:49we're going to
11:49give them
11:49for the first time
11:50in the history
11:51of that agency.
11:56Senator White.
11:57Thank you very much
11:58Mr. Chairman.
11:59I've made it clear
12:00I think that
12:01Secretary Kennedy
12:03is dead set
12:04on making it harder
12:05for children
12:05to get vaccines
12:06and that kids
12:07are going to die
12:08because of it.
12:09And Mr. Chairman
12:10I'd like to put in
12:11the record today
12:12an op-ed written
12:13by Susan Menares
12:15who was fired
12:15by Mr. Kennedy.
12:17Without objection.
12:19So
12:20what we
12:21know
12:22and
12:23Dr. Menares
12:25you know
12:25was approved
12:26by Republicans
12:27she wrote
12:27an op-ed
12:28today
12:29in the Wall Street Journal
12:30which I've just put
12:30in the record
12:31and I quote her
12:32she said
12:33I was told
12:34to pre-approve
12:36the recommendations
12:37of a vaccine
12:38advisory panel
12:39newly filled
12:40with people
12:41who have publicly
12:42expressed
12:43anti-vaccine rhetoric
12:45so
12:46this is not
12:47some
12:47liberal
12:49philosopher
12:50or something
12:50this is the
12:51CDC director
12:52who tells
12:53the Wall Street Journal
12:54which is not
12:55exactly
12:55interested in
12:57progressive
12:58you know
12:58theories and the like
12:59that she was told
13:01to pre-approve
13:02the recommendations
13:03of a vaccine
13:04advisory panel
13:05filled with people
13:06who've publicly
13:07expressed
13:08anti-vaccine rhetoric
13:09so
13:10my first question
13:11Mr. Secretary
13:12is
13:12did you
13:13in fact
13:14do
13:14what Director
13:15Moneris
13:16said you did
13:17which is
13:18tell her
13:18to just go along
13:19with vaccine
13:20recommendations
13:21even if she didn't
13:21think
13:22such recommendations
13:23aligned with
13:24scientific evidence
13:25that's a yes
13:26or no
13:28so you have an
13:28opportunity
13:29to call her
13:30a liar
13:30if you say
13:31that you didn't
13:33do it
13:33but I'd like
13:34to see you
13:35respond to this
13:35no I did not
13:37say that to her
13:38and I never
13:39had a private
13:40meeting with her
13:41so there are
13:42witnesses
13:43to every meeting
13:44that we have
13:44and all those
13:45witnesses will say
13:46I never said that
13:48so she's lying
13:49today to the
13:50American people
13:51in the Wall Street
13:51Journal
13:51yes sir
13:52okay
13:53let's talk
13:55now about
13:56what's coming up
13:57because I made
13:58it clear what I've
13:59thought about
14:00the 203
14:01you know
14:01days with my
14:02colleagues
14:02and also Brooks
14:03in two weeks
14:04CDC's advisory
14:06committee on
14:06immunization
14:07practices
14:08will meet
14:08to make
14:09decisions
14:09about critical
14:10vaccines
14:11that protect
14:11us against
14:12hepatitis B
14:13measles
14:13and more
14:14the committee
14:15has got a
14:15profound impact
14:17on vaccine
14:18access
14:19but these
14:20aren't ordinary
14:20meetings
14:21you've stacked
14:22the deck
14:22to ensure
14:23the panel
14:23benefits
14:24bends to
14:25your views
14:26in June
14:26you fired
14:27all 17
14:28committee members
14:29who are
14:29respected
14:30scientists
14:30and doctors
14:31you replaced
14:32them with
14:32non-experts
14:33vaccine
14:34skeptics
14:34and conspiracy
14:35theorists
14:36as a result
14:37this critical
14:38advisory panel
14:40has lost
14:41scientific
14:42credibility
14:42after years
14:44colleagues
14:44we spend
14:45so much
14:45time
14:46not looking
14:46at this
14:47as democrats
14:48and republicans
14:48but it's good
14:49science
14:50and scientific
14:50credibility
14:51and now
14:52the American
14:53Academy
14:54of Pediatrics
14:55has warned
14:56that the
14:56committee
14:57is being
14:58politicized
14:59at the expense
15:00of children's
15:01health
15:01American
15:03Academy
15:03of Pediatrics
15:05you think
15:06they're lying
15:07to
15:07I think
15:08the American
15:09Academy
15:09of Pediatrics
15:10is gravely
15:13conflicted
15:13they get
15:14their biggest
15:16contributors
15:16are the four
15:17largest vaccine
15:18makers
15:18they run
15:20a journal
15:20Pediatrics
15:21which they make
15:22a lot of money
15:22on that is
15:23completely
15:24dependent on
15:24pharmaceutical
15:25companies
15:25so I don't
15:26think
15:26I wouldn't
15:27put a big
15:28stake
15:29in what
15:30they say
15:31that benefits
15:32pharmaceutical
15:32interest
15:33senator
15:34I didn't
15:35politicize
15:36it
15:36I de-politicized
15:37it
15:38Congress
15:39has been
15:39investigating
15:40all over
15:41the country
15:41Mr. Secretary
15:42scientists
15:44and doctors
15:45are saying
15:45otherwise
15:46they're all
15:47wrong too
15:48they're all
15:48lying
15:48according to you
15:49scientists
15:50and doctors
15:50are supporting
15:51me all over
15:52the country
15:52there is
15:53division
15:54on opinion
15:55I don't
15:56get letters
15:56from thousands
15:58of people
15:59who are not
15:59political
16:00saying that
16:01this set
16:02of changes
16:03is going to
16:03damage
16:04American health
16:05care
16:05and particularly
16:06these health
16:07care agencies
16:07for decades
16:08to come
16:09I don't get
16:09any letters
16:10saying
16:11this is going
16:12to make
16:12a big difference
16:13forever
16:13maybe you're
16:14listening to
16:15a selective
16:15group of people
16:16you get
16:17me
16:18I will
16:19tell you
16:21what senator
16:21I will put
16:22my mailbag
16:23against your
16:24mailbag
16:24I got
16:25I got
16:2530 seconds
16:26dangerous
16:28respiratory
16:29viruses
16:30like RSV
16:31are on the
16:32agenda
16:33for the next
16:34advisory meeting
16:35countless parents
16:36have been awakened
16:37in the dead of night
16:38by a wheezing kid
16:39gasping for air
16:40forced to rush
16:41their little one
16:42to the ER
16:42there's no worse
16:43heart-wrenching fear
16:45the RSV vaccine
16:46offers these kids
16:47protection
16:48against the worst
16:49effects of the virus
16:50but now it looks like
16:52you're on a crusade
16:54to make infants
16:54and babies
16:55more vulnerable
16:56to the terrible
16:57illness
16:57that's what we're
16:58doing with the
16:59COVID changes
17:00and please make
17:02your answer brief
17:02Mr. Secretary
17:04I've said
17:06that
17:06the position
17:06is indefensible
17:07I think it's
17:08possible
17:08Congress
17:09has been
17:10investigating
17:10that committee
17:11for 23 years
17:13because it is
17:14it is pervaded
17:15with conflicts
17:16of interest
17:17what we did
17:17is we got rid
17:19of the conflicts
17:20of interest
17:20we depoliticized
17:22and put great
17:23scientists on it
17:24from a very
17:26diverse group
17:26from very
17:27very pro-vaccine
17:29let me close
17:29with this
17:30because like
17:30Senator Krapa
17:31I'm a few
17:31seconds over
17:32I don't think
17:33Mr. Secretary
17:34this is about
17:35you and me
17:36this is about
17:37kids being pushed
17:38in harm's way
17:40by reckless
17:41and repeated
17:42decisions
17:42to get scientists
17:43and doctors
17:44out of the way
17:45and allow
17:46conspiracy theories
17:47to dictate
17:47this country's
17:48health policy
17:49I don't see
17:50any evidence
17:51that you have
17:51any regrets
17:52about anything
17:53you've done
17:53or plans
17:54to change it
17:54and my last
17:55comment is
17:56I hope
17:57that you will
17:58tell the American
17:59people
18:00how many
18:01preventable
18:02child deaths
18:03are an acceptable
18:04sacrifice
18:05for enacting
18:06an agenda
18:07that I think
18:08is fundamentally
18:09cruel
18:10and defies
18:10common sense
18:11thank you
18:11Mr. Chairman
18:12do I get a reply
18:13or
18:14Senator
18:16you've sat
18:17in that chair
18:18for how long
18:2020-25 years
18:21while the
18:22chronic disease
18:23in our children
18:23went up to 76%
18:25and you said
18:26nothing
18:27you never asked
18:28the question
18:28why it's happening
18:29why is this happening
18:30today for the first
18:32time in 20 years
18:33we've learned
18:35that infant mortality
18:36has increased
18:37in our country
18:38it's not because
18:38I came in here
18:39it's because of
18:40what happened
18:40during the Biden
18:41administration
18:41that we're going to end
18:42I'm going to let
18:43Senator Wyden
18:44respond briefly
18:45to that
18:46and then we're not
18:47going to go over
18:47like we just did
18:49only to defend
18:49this committee
18:50on a bipartisan
18:51basis
18:51colleagues
18:52my cabinet secretary
18:55says that
18:56we have no interest
18:57in chronic care
18:58Mr. Secretary
18:58Mr. Chairman
18:59could we have
19:00regular order please
19:00we are in the process
19:01of turning around
19:02the Medicare program
19:03with the chronic care bill
19:05that Chairman Hatch
19:06when he was chairman
19:06and this committee
19:07put together
19:08on a bipartisan basis
19:09all right
19:10we're going to proceed
19:11and I just want the rest
19:12of the members to know
19:13I gave Senator Wyden
19:14as ranking member
19:15some leeway there
19:16but we're going to stick
19:18to the five minutes
19:19let me go back to policy
19:21so maybe we'll lower
19:22the temperature a little bit
19:23I got a bipartisan bill
19:25that would be a systemic fix
19:28not a vote buying mechanism
19:31when Medicaid's getting cut
19:32than what was put in
19:33on the rural hospitals
19:34one of the things we could do
19:35Mr. Secretary
19:36is make sure that the
19:38folks who work in rural
19:39hospitals get an 80%
19:40reimbursement
19:41of what folks get
19:43in more urban centers
19:44would you support
19:45that legislation
19:46are you talking
19:50about the area wage index
19:51I'm talking about
19:53the area wage index
19:55and moving that up
19:56to 80%
19:56so there is actually
19:58the ability to get
19:59rural providers
20:00President Trump
20:01supports that
20:02and we support
20:03you support
20:04good
20:05so you will work
20:05with us to get
20:06that passed
20:07yes
20:07that will increase
20:09costs on both
20:10Medicaid and Medicare
20:11so you are committed
20:13to that
20:13I appreciate that
20:14what about
20:14Senator Wyden
20:15and I've got a bill
20:16because across America
20:17hospitals are shutting
20:20down on their
20:21OBGYN services
20:22try to have a baby
20:23I don't know about
20:24all my other
20:25friend states
20:26but in Southside
20:27Virginia
20:27you can't find a hospital
20:28will you work with us
20:29to make sure
20:29that before OBGYN
20:31services
20:32are taken out
20:34whatever rural hospital
20:34there has to be
20:35a process and procedure
20:36I'm happy to work
20:37with you on that
20:39Senator
20:39meet with you
20:40and see if we can
20:42work with you on it
20:43I don't know
20:43exactly what the issue is
20:45well
20:45again
20:46the Secretary of Health
20:49and Human Services
20:50who has said
20:51he doesn't know
20:51how many people
20:52died from COVID
20:53doesn't know
20:54if the vaccine
20:54saved lives
20:55doesn't understand
20:57the issue
20:57that OBGYN
20:58are fleeing
21:01rural America
21:02because they can't
21:02afford it
21:03and with the cuts
21:04that are coming up
21:05it's going to be
21:06exponentially worse
21:07I would invite you sir
21:08to come with me
21:09to a community health
21:10center in Virginia
21:10and hear what is
21:12on people's mind
21:13they want to get
21:13healthier
21:14absolutely
21:15count me in
21:16but they also don't
21:17want their basic
21:18health care removed
21:18thank you Mr. Chairman
21:19thank you Mr. Chairman
21:22so last November
21:24while you were
21:25under consideration
21:26to become Secretary
21:27of Health and Human
21:28Services
21:28Mr. Kennedy
21:29you said
21:30quote
21:31if vaccines
21:32are working
21:33for somebody
21:34I'm not going
21:35to take them away
21:36no exceptions
21:37no ifs ands
21:38or buts
21:39you would not
21:40take away vaccines
21:41from anyone
21:42who wanted them
21:43then last week
21:45you announced
21:45the COVID-19 vaccine
21:47is no longer approved
21:49for healthy people
21:50under the age of 65
21:51in announcing the change
21:53you said the vaccine
21:54will be available
21:54for anyone
21:55who wants it
21:56now obviously
21:57both things
21:58cannot be true
21:59at the same moment
22:00so let's clear
22:01this up right now
22:03Secretary Kennedy
22:04will you tell
22:05America that
22:06all adults
22:07and all children
22:08over six months
22:09of age
22:10are eligible
22:11to get
22:12a COVID booster
22:13at their local
22:14pharmacy today
22:16anybody can get
22:17the booster
22:18I'm sorry
22:19anybody can get it
22:20anybody
22:21so you're saying
22:22that is now
22:23the official rule
22:24of HHS
22:25anybody
22:26is eligible
22:28to get a booster
22:28by just walking
22:29into the pharmacy
22:30it's not recommended
22:32for healthy people
22:33no no
22:33if you don't recommend
22:35then the consequence
22:37of that
22:38in many states
22:39is that you can't
22:40walk into a pharmacy
22:41and get one
22:42it means insurance companies
22:43don't have to cover
22:44the $200 or so cost
22:47as Senator Dr. Cassidy
22:50said you are
22:50effectively denying
22:52people vaccines
22:53we're not going to
22:54recommend a product
22:55for which there's
22:56no clinical data
22:57for that indication
22:58which is that
22:59what I should be doing
23:00what you should be doing
23:01is honoring
23:02your promise
23:03that you made
23:04when you were looking
23:04to get confirmed
23:05in this job
23:06you're going like this
23:07and that is
23:08you promised
23:09that you would not
23:10take away
23:12vaccines
23:13from anyone
23:14who wanted them
23:15you just changed
23:16the classification
23:17of the COVID vaccine
23:19I'm not taking them
23:20away from people
23:21Senator
23:21it takes it away
23:23if you can't
23:24get it from your
23:24pharmacist
23:25most Americans
23:26are going to be able
23:27to get it from
23:27their pharmacy
23:28for free
23:29most Americans
23:31will be able
23:32to get it from
23:32their pharmacy
23:33for free
23:33the question is
23:34everyone who wants
23:35it
23:35that was your promise
23:37I never promised
23:39that I was going
23:40to recommend products
23:41with which there is
23:42no indication
23:43and I know
23:45you've taken
23:45$855,000
23:48from pharmaceutical
23:49companies
23:50Senator
23:50did you hold up
23:51a big sign
23:52saying that you
23:52were lying
23:53when you said
23:54that because
23:55you are the one
23:56who said
23:56you would not
23:57take them away
23:59now Senator
24:00I'm not taking
24:01them away
24:01from anybody
24:01you want me
24:04to indicate
24:04a product
24:05for which there
24:06is no clinical
24:07data
24:07is that what
24:09you want
24:09Secretary Kennedy
24:10you said you
24:11wouldn't
24:12and now you did
24:13I'm not taking
24:14them away
24:14everybody can get
24:15access to them
24:16no
24:17they can't walk
24:18into a pharmacy
24:19the way they could
24:20last month
24:21and get access
24:23it depends on
24:24the state
24:24it depends on
24:25the states
24:26a year ago
24:27but they can still
24:28get it
24:28everybody can get it
24:30everybody can get it
24:32senator
24:32so look
24:33let's move on
24:34you clearly are
24:35taking away vaccines
24:36I've seen the list
24:38for what's coming up
24:39next
24:39and that is
24:40the agenda
24:41for the next
24:42CDC vaccine panel
24:44and first up
24:46is ratifying
24:48your COVID
24:48actions
24:49second
24:49is
24:51hepatitis B
24:52is on the agenda
24:53so should
24:54Americans expect
24:55you to take away
24:56hepatitis vaccine
24:57access
24:58as well
24:59even though
25:00you promise
25:00not to
25:01as I said
25:02I'm not taking
25:03vaccines away
25:04from anybody
25:04same answer
25:05right
25:06you're just going
25:06to deny
25:07that when people
25:08can't get access
25:09that you're not
25:11taking it away
25:12then let me ask
25:13you is that the
25:13same game
25:14you're going to play
25:15with me
25:15so you want me
25:17to recommend
25:17every product
25:19in the world
25:20without any
25:22clinical trial data
25:23on your promises
25:25yeah my promise
25:26was to give
25:27a month ago
25:28we could get
25:29COVID vaccines
25:30by just walking
25:31you can still get
25:32COVID vaccines
25:33you are taking
25:34that away
25:35so let me ask
25:36you one more
25:37question
25:38Secretary Kennedy
25:39will still pay
25:39for them
25:40and Medicaid
25:40will still pay
25:41for them
25:41if you tell the head
25:42of the CDC
25:43that if she
25:44refused to sign
25:45off on your
25:46changes to the
25:47childhood vaccine
25:48schedule
25:48that she had
25:49to resign
25:50no I told her
25:52that she had
25:52to resign
25:53because I asked
25:54her are you
25:55a trustworthy
25:56person
25:56and she said
25:57no
25:58so if you
26:00had an employee
26:00who told you
26:02they weren't
26:03trustworthy
26:03would you
26:04ask them
26:05to resign
26:06Senator
26:06so I'm sorry
26:09but this is not
26:10what she has
26:10said publicly
26:11she has said
26:13I'm not surprised
26:14about that
26:14so you're saying
26:16she's lying
26:17yes
26:17every conversation
26:19I had with her
26:20there were witnesses
26:21and let me get this
26:21straight
26:21this is the same
26:22person that less
26:23than a month earlier
26:24you stood next to her
26:26and described her
26:28as unimpeachable
26:30and you had full
26:32confidence in her
26:34and that you had
26:35full confidence
26:36in her scientific
26:37credentials
26:38and in a month
26:40she became a liar
26:41yeah you should ask
26:42her what changed
26:43and by the way
26:44a month ago
26:44you were voting
26:45against her
26:46because you thought
26:48she was either
26:48incompetent
26:49ineligible
26:50or unsuited
26:52to the task
26:53I voted against her
26:54because I was afraid
26:55she was going to bend
26:56the knee to you
26:57and Donald Trump
26:57and it looks like
26:59she didn't bend
27:00the knee
27:00so you fired her
27:02look
27:02you're putting
27:03America's babies
27:05health at risk
27:06America's seniors
27:07health at risk
27:07all Americans
27:09health at risk
27:09and you should resign
27:10Senator Sanders
27:12President Trump
27:13who I don't usually
27:14agree with
27:15called COVID vaccines
27:16quote
27:17one of the greatest
27:18miracles in the history
27:19of modern day medicine
27:20that saved tens of
27:22millions of lives
27:22worldwide
27:23scientific community
27:24agrees with Trump
27:26Lancet study
27:27found that it
27:27prevented almost
27:2820 million deaths
27:29during their first
27:31year of use
27:32Secretary Kennedy
27:34are President Trump
27:35and the medical
27:36community right
27:37or do you still
27:39believe that the
27:39COVID vaccine
27:40was quote
27:41the deadliest
27:42vaccine ever made
27:43no I
27:44first of all
27:45I didn't say
27:46that I said
27:47that in terms
27:48of affairs reports
27:50a while ago
27:51I said today
27:53I think that
27:54President Trump
27:54should get the
27:55Nobel Prize
27:55so who's right
27:56is Trump
27:57in the medical
27:57community right
27:58or are you right
27:59President Trump
28:00did an extraordinary
28:02piece of leadership
28:03is he right
28:04or wrong
28:05did COVID
28:06save millions
28:07of lives
28:07as I said
28:09he got Americans
28:10back to work
28:11at that time
28:11that particular
28:12vaccine was
28:13perfectly matched
28:14the virus
28:14that was circulating
28:15then
28:16and I have no
28:17idea how many
28:18lives it saved
28:19but it saved
28:19quite a few
28:20you know
28:22what I find
28:23a little bit weird
28:24in this discussion
28:26I'm hearing it
28:26over and over again
28:27this morning
28:28Mr. Chairman
28:28because we've got
28:30the entire
28:30medical community
28:32on one side
28:33you've got the
28:33AMA
28:34representing hundreds
28:35of thousands
28:36of doctors
28:36the American
28:38Academy of Pediatrics
28:39the American
28:40Public Health
28:41Association
28:42all of these
28:44organizations
28:45are telling us
28:48that
28:48COVID vaccine
28:50and vaccines
28:51in general
28:51are safe
28:52and effective
28:53you are casting
28:55doubt on that
28:56who are your
28:56scientific
28:57who are the
28:58organizations
28:59that are agreeing
29:00with you
29:01and casting
29:02aspersions
29:02vaccines
29:03the primary
29:08advisors
29:09are
29:09Marty McCary
29:10Jay Bhattachara
29:12Dr. Oz
29:15Vinay Prasad
29:15so you've got
29:16a few doctors
29:17who agree with you
29:17and I'm giving you
29:18the name
29:18not a few doctors
29:19what you're talking
29:21about
29:21there's a big
29:23difference
29:24Senator
29:24between
29:24established science
29:26and the scientific
29:27establishment
29:28which has been
29:29co-opted
29:30by the
29:30pharmacy
29:30so you're telling
29:31me
29:31you're telling
29:32the American
29:32people
29:33that the
29:34American
29:34Medical Association
29:35representing
29:36hundreds of
29:37thousands of
29:38people
29:38have been
29:38co-opted
29:39and that
29:40they should
29:40not trust
29:41their doctors
29:41the American
29:42Academy of
29:43Pediatrics
29:44and by the way
29:45just for the
29:46record
29:46every single
29:47Republican
29:48I don't mean
29:48to be political
29:49here Mr. Chairman
29:50has received
29:50PAC money
29:51from the
29:52pharmaceutical
29:52industry
29:53are they all
29:54corrupt as well
29:55and I'm telling
29:56you the American
29:56Heart Association
29:57has been co-opted
29:58by the food industry
29:59everybody but you
30:00Senator
30:00but you know
30:00what
30:00when you ran
30:01for president
30:01you know
30:02we have a corrupt
30:03campaign finance
30:04system
30:05maybe you will
30:05agree with me
30:06on that
30:06okay
30:07you were
30:08running for president
30:09you got a billionaire
30:09behind it
30:10you received
30:11$300,000
30:12from people
30:13not from the
30:14industry
30:14people in it
30:15as I did
30:16from individuals
30:17you corrupt
30:18President Trump
30:18got $3 million
30:20every Republican
30:22got corporate
30:22PAC money
30:23for the
30:23pharmaceutical industry
30:24Democrats as well
30:25everybody is corrupt
30:27but you
30:28is that what
30:30we're looking at
30:30I don't think so
30:31and I think
30:32the issue
30:32I don't even know
30:33what you're talking
30:33about
30:33well I think
30:34you do know
30:34what I'm talking
30:35about
30:35I don't know
30:36what you're
30:36talking about
30:36the issue is
30:37every time
30:38anyone
30:38are you saying
30:39are you saying
30:40the pharmaceutical
30:41industry was
30:42supporting my
30:42presidential campaign
30:44I don't think so
30:45I'm not saying
30:46that
30:46I'm saying
30:46the pharmaceutical
30:47industry is a
30:48greedy institution
30:49which is charging
30:50us the highest
30:51prices in the
30:52world
30:52they are pervasive
30:53but to suggest
30:54that every
30:55institution
30:56the AMA
30:57the pediatrics
30:58people
30:58is corrupt
30:59because they
31:00disagree with
31:00you
31:01is an insult
31:02people disagree
31:03with me all the
31:04time
31:04I have arguments
31:05in my agency
31:07heated arguments
31:08every day
31:09with Jay Butich
31:10or with Marty
31:10McCary
31:11with Dr. Oz
31:12you have given
31:12the names
31:13of a few people
31:14I have given
31:14you the names
31:15of organizations
31:16representing
31:16hundreds of
31:17thousands of
31:18doctors and
31:19scientists
31:19I yield
31:20Mr. President
31:20Senator Tillis
31:21Senator Lujan
31:22Thank you
31:24Mr. Chairman
31:25Secretary Kennedy
31:26Dr. Daskalakis
31:27who recently
31:28resigned as
31:29director of
31:29the National
31:29Center for
31:30Immunization
31:31and Respiratory
31:32Diseases
31:32his resignation
31:34letter
31:36stated
31:36he and his
31:37team were
31:38never
31:38allowed
31:39to brief
31:39you
31:40I'm curious
31:40who you're
31:41listening to
31:41since it's
31:42clear you're
31:42not listening
31:43to qualified
31:43experts like
31:44Dr. Daskalakis
31:44can you give
31:45the committee
31:46the name
31:47of the person
31:47I don't
31:48consider
31:49Dr. Daskalakis
31:50Mr. Secretary
31:51the question
31:52that I have
31:53for you
31:54is
31:54can you give
31:55the committee
31:55a name
31:56of who
31:56you're getting
31:57briefed by
31:57I'm getting
31:58briefed by
31:59all the time
32:00by CDC
32:00just a name
32:01Dr. William
32:02Thompson's
32:03one name
32:03thank you
32:04very much
32:04sir
32:05but I can
32:06I can get you
32:07a whole list
32:07of others
32:08it's on my
32:08schedule
32:09Mr. Secretary
32:09that's not a hard
32:10question
32:10you know
32:11you know a lot
32:11of answers
32:12I'm not being
32:13evasive
32:13then you answered
32:14it
32:14let's go on
32:15now
32:16you said that
32:17you're soon
32:18going to release
32:19a study
32:19claiming to
32:20reveal the
32:20cause of
32:21autism
32:21timed unsurprisingly
32:23with the upcoming
32:24ACIP meeting
32:25to justify
32:25taking vaccines
32:26from Americans
32:27now
32:27as you know
32:28autism affects
32:29millions of
32:29children
32:30so I guess
32:31you'd have
32:31the nation's
32:32top medical
32:33experts
32:33working on
32:34this
32:34Mr. Kennedy
32:36you hired
32:36a man
32:37named
32:37David Geyer
32:39to conduct
32:39this study
32:40is that correct
32:40no
32:41is
32:43Mr. David
32:44Geyer
32:44working for
32:45HHS
32:46he's a
32:47contractor
32:48but he's
32:48not conducting
32:49the study
32:50he's a
32:50contractor
32:51he's a
32:52contractor
32:52do you know
32:52who works
32:53for you
32:53Mr. Kennedy
32:53yeah
32:54do you know
32:55that Mr.
32:56Geyer
32:56is listed
32:57as a
32:57HHS
32:58on the
32:59employee
33:00directory
33:00as a
33:01senior
33:01data
33:01analyst
33:02not a
33:02contractor
33:03he's a
33:03contractor
33:04he's not
33:04an SGE
33:05so is
33:06your website
33:06wrong
33:06he's not
33:08an SGE
33:08I don't
33:09know
33:09I'm going to
33:10pull up
33:10the website
33:11for you
33:11he's a
33:13contractor
33:14if the
33:14website says
33:15he is a
33:16senior data
33:17analyst
33:17will you
33:17at least
33:18admit to
33:19the
33:19I don't
33:19know
33:19if a
33:20contractor
33:20can be
33:21classified
33:21as a
33:22senior
33:22data
33:22analysis
33:23or not
33:24is
33:24Mr.
33:25Geyer
33:25a
33:25doctor
33:25no
33:27did you
33:28know he
33:28never went
33:28to medical
33:29school
33:29he's not
33:31he's not
33:32we're not
33:32he's not
33:33practicing
33:33medicine
33:34did you
33:34know that
33:35he got
33:35caught
33:36in Maryland
33:37and was
33:38charged for
33:38practicing
33:39medicine
33:39without a
33:40medical
33:40license
33:41he was
33:41charged
33:42by a
33:42medical
33:42board
33:43sued the
33:43medical
33:44board
33:44and the
33:44medical
33:44board
33:45was found
33:45to have
33:46acted
33:47in actual
33:48malice
33:49and was
33:49fined
33:492.6
33:50million dollars
33:51by a
33:51judge
33:52in Maryland
33:52for doing
33:53that
33:54see
33:54so you
33:54choose
33:55to know
33:55a lot
33:56when you
33:56want
33:56to know
33:56a lot
33:57you're
33:58it's
33:58incredible
33:59Mr.
34:00Kennedy
34:00so here's
34:03the question
34:03I have
34:04you brought
34:05him in
34:05to do
34:06this study
34:06I think
34:07there's no
34:07question
34:07I told you
34:08he's not
34:08doing a
34:09study
34:09is he
34:10participating
34:11in the
34:11study
34:12no
34:12is he
34:13doing
34:13any
34:13analysis
34:14in regards
34:15to this
34:15no
34:15what he's
34:16doing
34:16is getting
34:17access
34:18to the
34:19vaccine
34:19safety
34:19data link
34:20which is
34:20the biggest
34:21repository
34:21for vaccine
34:22information
34:23that
34:23your friend
34:25would not
34:25give us
34:26for seven
34:26months
34:27for seven
34:28months
34:28I've asked
34:29you this
34:29question
34:29just because
34:30you know
34:30the answer
34:31what is
34:32Mr.
34:32Guyer doing
34:33he is
34:34he is
34:35the only
34:36one
34:36because
34:36Congress
34:37ordered
34:38CDC
34:39to open
34:40up the
34:40VSD
34:40to him
34:41in 2002
34:42he's the
34:42only outsider
34:43who's
34:43ever seen
34:44it
34:44so because
34:46CDC
34:47will not
34:47give us
34:48Mr.
34:48Secretary
34:49is he
34:50participating
34:50in this
34:51then
34:51you just
34:53said he's
34:53the only
34:53dude
34:53that knows
34:54what's
34:54going on
34:55here
34:55do you
34:56want me
34:56to explain
34:57it to
34:57you
34:57senator
34:57or do you
34:58just want
34:58to show
35:00vote
35:01for your
35:04answer
35:04or do you
35:04want to
35:05hear a
35:05real answer
35:06to your
35:06question
35:07Mr.
35:08Secretary
35:08you choose
35:10to know
35:10answers to
35:11questions
35:11with some
35:12colleagues
35:12I'm willing
35:13to give you
35:14the answer
35:14Mr.
35:16Secretary
35:16someone should
35:17have asked
35:17you
35:17maybe
35:18President
35:18Trump
35:18should
35:19have
35:19asked
35:19you
35:19are you
35:20a trustworthy
35:21person
35:21and we
35:22should have
35:23waited for
35:23an answer
35:24then
35:24let's
35:24move on
35:25I don't even know
35:25what you're
35:25talking about
35:26you're talking
35:27gibberish
35:27Mr.
35:28Secretary
35:28let me speak
35:29slowly and
35:31clearly so that
35:32you can understand
35:33me through my
35:33New Mexico
35:34accent
35:34and then give me
35:35a chance
35:35to answer
35:35does this help
35:36can you
35:37understand me
35:37yes
35:38appreciate that
35:39Mr.
35:40Secretary
35:40yes or no
35:41did you hire
35:43Mr.
35:43Dyer
35:44to do this
35:45study
35:45no
35:46Mr.
35:48Chairman
35:48well let me
35:50ask maybe we'll
35:51just get a good
35:52answer here
35:52Mr.
35:54Secretary
35:54will you
35:58commit to
35:59sharing the
35:59protocols used
36:00for the
36:01autism study
36:01with Congress
36:02and to the
36:03public
36:03they're public
36:04will you
36:06commit to
36:06giving it to
36:07this committee
36:07by the end
36:08of the week
36:08no not
36:09because
36:09that's not
36:10the way
36:11it works
36:11you don't even
36:13know what
36:13you're talking
36:13about
36:14Mr.
36:14Secretary
36:14will you
36:15commit to
36:16sharing the
36:16protocols
36:17for the
36:17study
36:18by the
36:18end of the
36:18month
36:18we already
36:19have
36:20you just
36:20said it's
36:20public
36:21we put out
36:23the notice
36:23of funding
36:24opportunities
36:24and then the
36:25scientists
36:25from all over
36:27the world
36:27you're not
36:27understanding me
36:28let me
36:29say clearly
36:29no you're not
36:29understanding
36:30how the world
36:31works
36:31do you
36:31understand
36:32what the
36:32protocols
36:32are
36:33do you
36:33understand
36:34what they
36:34are
36:34the
36:35scientists
36:36who are
36:36doing
36:36the studies
36:37submit the
36:37protocol
36:38that's not
36:39coming from
36:40us
36:40so will you
36:41commit to
36:42sharing those
36:42protocols with
36:43this committee
36:43anybody can
36:45get a hold
36:46of the
36:46protocol
36:46it's published
36:47with the
36:47study
36:48Mr.
36:48Chairman
36:49what I'd like
36:50to ask is
36:50for your
36:51commitment
36:51here
36:52I'll send
36:53a letter
36:53to the
36:53secretary
36:54I'll ask
36:55for support
36:56from the
36:56leadership
36:56of this
36:57committee
36:57to ask
36:58for those
36:58protocols
36:59if those
37:00protocols
37:00are not
37:01given
37:01to this
37:01committee
37:01Mr.
37:01Secretary
37:03I'm not
37:04talking to you
37:04Mr.
37:05Chairman
37:05if the
37:06protocols
37:07are public
37:07we can
37:08work with
37:08you
37:08what I'm
37:09asking
37:09Mr.
37:09Chairman
37:10is that
37:10if
37:10those
37:11protocols
37:11are not
37:11given
37:12to this
37:12committee
37:12I'm
37:13asking
37:13for your
37:13agreement
37:14that we
37:15follow through
37:16with a
37:16subpoena
37:17to get them
37:18no I will
37:18not agree
37:19to subpoena
37:19anything
37:20let's see
37:21what
37:21Mr.
37:22Chairman
37:22you'll
37:22help me
37:22get them
37:23if they're
37:23available
37:23publicly
37:24yes
37:24I appreciate
37:25that
37:25Mr.
37:26Chairman
37:26Mr.
37:27Kennedy
37:28with all
37:28the questions
37:29here today
37:30people just
37:31want to know
37:32the truth
37:32I don't
37:34think so
37:35Mr.
37:35Secretary
37:36you don't
37:36think so
37:37thank you
37:37I don't
37:38think so
37:38I hope
37:38everyone
37:39recording
37:39that
37:40got that
37:40because
37:41there
37:41explains
37:42the
37:42secretary's
37:43tenure
37:43here
37:43look
37:44two
37:45young
37:45ladies
37:45in
37:45Las Cruces
37:46New
37:46Mexico
37:46to
37:46town
37:47hall
37:47recently
37:48gave me
37:48this
37:48starfish
37:49pin
37:49I was
37:49going
37:50to give
37:50it
37:50to
37:50you
37:50today
37:51but
37:51after
37:51your
37:52questioning
37:52today
37:53I
37:53don't
37:53think
37:53you
37:54deserve
37:54it
37:54because
37:55what
37:55this
37:55represents
37:56is
37:56to
37:57remember
37:57that
37:58every
37:58one
37:58of
37:58us
38:02maybe
38:02got
38:03washed
38:03up
38:03you
38:03throw
38:03it
38:04back
38:04in
38:04the
38:04ocean
38:04you
38:05might
38:05not
38:05save
38:05them
38:06all
38:06but
38:06you
38:06can
38:06save
38:06one
38:07I'm
38:08sorry
38:08that
38:08you're
38:09not
38:09worthy
38:09of
38:09this
38:09nice
38:10little
38:10pin
38:11sir
38:11is
38:11a
38:11nice
38:11reminder
38:12I'm
38:12going to
38:12pray
38:12for
38:12you
38:12Secretary
38:13Kennedy
38:13I hope
38:14we do
38:14better
38:15I
38:15want
38:15you
38:15to
38:15do
38:15better
38:16but
38:16today
38:17was
38:17a
38:17failure
38:17for
38:18you
38:18man
38:18I
38:19yield
38:19back
38:19could
38:20tell
38:22the head
38:22of the
38:23CDC
38:24that if
38:32she
38:33had
38:33to
38:33resign
38:34because
38:34I
38:34asked
38:35her
38:35are
38:36you
38:36a
38:36trustworthy
38:37person
38:37and
38:38she
38:38said
38:38no
38:39so
38:40if
38:40you
38:41had
38:41an
38:41employee
38:41who
38:43told
38:43you
38:43they
38:43weren't
38:44trustworthy
38:44would
38:45you
38:45ask
38:46them
38:46to
38:46resign
38:47senator
38:47so
38:49I'm
38:49sorry
38:50but
38:50this
38:50is
38:50not
38:50what
38:51she
38:51has
38:51said
38:52publicly
38:52she
38:53has
38:53said
38:53I'm
38:54not
38:54surprised
38:55about
38:55that
38:55so
38:56you're
38:57saying
38:57she's
38:57lying
38:58yes
38:58every
38:59conversation
39:00I
39:00had
39:01with
39:01there
39:01were
39:01witnesses
39:02this
39:02is
39:02the
39:03same
39:03person
39:03that
39:04less
39:04than
39:04a
39:04month
39:05earlier
39:05you
39:05stood
39:06next
39:06to
39:07her
39:07and
39:07described
39:08her
39:08as
39:09unimpeachable
39:11and
39:12you
39:12had
39:13full
39:13confidence
39:14in
39:14her
39:15and
39:15that
39:16you
39:16had
39:16full
39:16confidence
39:17in
39:17her
39:17scientific
39:18credentials
39:19and
39:20in
39:20a
39:20month
39:20she
39:21became
39:21a
39:21liar
39:22yeah
39:22you
39:22should
39:22ask
39:23her
39:23what
39:23changed
39:23and
39:24by
39:24the
39:24way
39:24a
39:25month
39:25ago
39:25you
39:25were
39:25voting
39:26against
39:26her
39:27because
39:28you
39:28thought
39:29she
39:29was
39:29either
39:29incompetent
39:30ineligible
39:31or
39:32unsuited
39:33to the
39:33task
39:34I was
39:36afraid
39:36she
39:36was
39:36going
39:37to bend
39:37the knee
39:37to you
39:37and
39:38Donald
39:38Trump
39:38and
39:39it
39:39looks
39:39like
39:40she
39:40didn't
39:40bend
39:41the knee
39:41so
39:41you
39:42fired
39:43her
39:43look
39:43you're
39:44putting
39:44America's
39:45baby's
39:46health
39:46at
39:46risk
39:47America's
39:47seniors
39:47health
39:48at
39:48risk
39:48all
39:49Americans
39:49health
39:50at
39:50risk
39:50and
39:50you
39:51should
39:51resign
39:51Senator
39:52Sanders
39:53I just
39:58want to
39:58pick up
39:59on
39:59Senator
39:59Warren's
40:00point
40:00are you
40:01telling
40:01us
40:01that
40:02the
40:02former
40:02head
40:03of
40:03CDC
40:04went
40:04to
40:04you
40:04you
40:05asked
40:06her
40:06are
40:06you
40:06a
40:06trustworthy
40:07person
40:07and
40:08she
40:08said
40:08no
40:09I
40:09am
40:09not
40:10a
40:10trustworthy
40:10person
40:11she
40:11didn't
40:11say
40:11no
40:11I'm
40:12not
40:12a
40:12trustworthy
40:12person
40:13she
40:13said
40:13no
40:14I'm
40:15having
40:16a
40:16quote
40:16and
40:17you're
40:19also
40:19repeating
40:19now
40:20that
40:20she
40:20is
40:20a liar
40:21correct
40:21what she
40:22wrote
40:22in
40:22the
40:22Wall Street
40:22Journal
40:23if she
40:23wrote
40:23that I
40:25fired
40:26her
40:26because
40:27she
40:28refused
40:28to sign
40:29on
40:29in
40:29advance
40:30for
40:30the
40:31ACIP
40:31committee
40:32no
40:32that's
40:32not
40:33accurate
40:33all right
40:34you're
40:34calling
40:34her
40:34a
40:35liar
40:35and
40:35I
40:35look
40:36forward
40:36to
40:36her
40:36coming
40:37before
40:37the
40:37help
40:37committee
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