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Mumbai: In an exclusive interview with Kajol, Jisshu Sengupta, and director Umesh Bisht, where they discussed ‘The Trial’ Season 2, a legal drama. Also, opened up about how this season is coming with a new twist and drama, with Kajol's character evolving into a stronger lawyer. Umesh Bisht praised Kajol as a "director's actor" who trusts him completely. Moreover, the actors' on-screen chemistry is undeniable, and Umesh emphasized the importance of maintaining a positive atmosphere on set. ‘The Trial’ Season 2 explored deeper complexities in relationships and legal cases, taking the characters' journeys to the next level. 

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00:00So hello everyone, welcome to INS and congratulations for the second season of the trial that's about to come.
00:05First off, let me start by saying all of you are looking very good.
00:08Thank you for talking to us.
00:09Kumeci, you didn't say thank you to him.
00:11I don't understand. Is he including me or I'm still out?
00:16So first of all, I would want all of you to chip in and give your inputs on the question that
00:22with the second season, what is it new that the viewers could expect in terms of the character,
00:27the trajectory, the story going forward and all of it.
00:30Anyone can take the lead answer.
00:31Sir, new dialogues?
00:32No, Jishu knows the answer. Jishu, we'll start with you.
00:36Sir, on a lighter note, new dialogues, new clothes.
00:40New director.
00:41New director.
00:42Ah!
00:43Really?
00:44New director.
00:45New director's team.
00:47New DOP.
00:50Jokes apart.
00:52It's a story forward.
00:54It's a story forward.
00:57And it is more human.
00:59More darker.
01:00More emotional.
01:02Ah!
01:03There are many questions in this.
01:06Which answers you will get in the end of the show.
01:09For which, you will open the 19th September, Jio Hotstar.
01:13No!
01:14What are we going to see?
01:15The trial.
01:16The trial.
01:17The trial.
01:18Season 2.
01:19No!
01:20No!
01:21What are we going to see?
01:22The trial.
01:23The trial.
01:24The trial.
01:25Season 2.
01:26The trial.
01:27The trial.
01:28Season 2.
01:29The trial.
01:30The trial.
01:31The trial.
01:32Okay.
01:33And going forward.
01:34Ma'am, your character.
01:35The way I see it.
01:36I could be wrong.
01:37Please correct me, fam.
01:38It's...
01:39Vulnerability wrapped in resilience.
01:41To all the ideas correct me.
01:43So, to strike the balance of being vulnerable and being resilient.
01:47And I've observed this thing in all of your performances.
01:50They're all right on point.
01:52And you do it like...
01:54Just how it's done.
01:56Not very effortlessly, flawlessly.
01:58Does the magic lie in not mulling too much over it or not getting over-indulgent with the character for you?
02:03I think the trick to it is to find...
02:08To get a good director.
02:10On board.
02:11Which I did have.
02:12To get great co-stars as well.
02:15Again, which I did have.
02:17And most importantly, I think it's got to do with how you see your arc.
02:26And it's always...
02:28A person...
02:30Is always a whole person.
02:32There is never...
02:33There is never just one good side or just a bad side or...
02:37You know...
02:38Only the grey area in a human being.
02:41There is always all three parts of that person combined.
02:45So, whichever scene we do...
02:47I try hopefully to keep all of those parts in mind when I'm portraying Noyan Ka.
02:54Okay.
02:55And Umesh sir...
02:56Ajishu sir mentioned that...
02:58You're new to the...
03:00To the team.
03:01New...
03:02You know...
03:03We are backbenchers here.
03:04We are backbenchers here.
03:05We are backbenchers here.
03:06We are backbenchers here.
03:07We are lagging.
03:08I would want you to explain that bit.
03:09Backbenchers and everything.
03:10What does that mean?
03:11Am I ever seen anything?
03:12Ask them.
03:13I mean...
03:14Just by their behavior.
03:15Can't you see their backbenchers?
03:16They can be nothing but backbenchers.
03:17Just by their behavior.
03:18Just by their behavior.
03:19Can't you see their backbenchers?
03:20They can be nothing but backbenchers.
03:24What's going on?
03:25A new professor has come in class.
03:27And now...
03:28People have failed in one class.
03:30For many years.
03:32One season.
03:33One season.
03:34One year.
03:35One year.
03:36A new professor has come.
03:37So...
03:38Let's start.
03:39These are the kids.
03:40They just hit the chalk behind.
03:44So, tell me one thing.
03:45When you have such great actors with you.
03:49They might be naughty as well as we can see.
03:51How do you rein in and make sure that a great performance is delivered?
03:55Never ever try to rein in your actors.
03:59That's a bad call.
04:02You have to become a part of them.
04:04Okay.
04:05You have to join the gang.
04:07So...
04:08Yeah.
04:09So it was lovely.
04:10In the sense that season 2 as you asked.
04:12There was a lot of experience from season 1.
04:14After watching the show.
04:16And there were certain things.
04:17And I am a big fan of Good Wife.
04:19So...
04:20A lot of...
04:21Our source material was very rich.
04:23And...
04:24There was a certain...
04:25Way I wanted to narrate the story.
04:28So...
04:29That clarity I had.
04:30So...
04:31And then I had a great team with Kajal.
04:33Heading the show.
04:34And Jishu.
04:35And...
04:36Wonderful crew and cast.
04:37So...
04:38What we started with is the writing part of it.
04:41So...
04:42The writing was a big challenge for season 2.
04:44Because season 2, Good Wife if you see is 27 plus episodes.
04:48And...
04:49Here we had only 6 episodes and we had to...
04:52Half an hour each.
04:53So...
04:54We had to consolidate and everything, you know, all that story.
04:58Get the essence out of it.
04:59And then more importantly adapted to our Indian situation.
05:02So...
05:03Writing was a big challenge.
05:04And so we had a wonderful writers room.
05:06And...
05:07Of course Jishu, Kajal, they all...
05:09You know, chipped in and they helped us with...
05:11Their experiences as to how they lived and...
05:13You know...
05:14Performed the actor...
05:15The character in the first season.
05:17So...
05:18That was a...
05:19So we had a very good base of the foundation to start with.
05:21And...
05:22Once we reached this...
05:24You know...
05:25Set...
05:26I had very...
05:27You know...
05:28Spontaneous actors.
05:29I was prepared.
05:30These guys were...
05:31Spontaneous actors.
05:37So...
05:38So...
05:39So...
05:40It's flickering.
05:41So...
05:42As you can see...
05:43We are still...
05:44We continue to have good time.
05:45Fun time.
05:46Even beyond the shoot.
05:47So...
05:48It was a wonderful experience.
05:49And the stories and the legal cases which we selected this time...
05:52We made sure that it...
05:53It was a wonderful experience.
05:54And the stories and the legal cases which we selected this time...
05:56We made sure that it...
05:57We made sure that it...
05:58Resonates with Noyanikaal's own personal life.
06:00So...
06:01It was a cementing...
06:02It was a bonding...
06:03In different tracks...
06:04It was more good.
06:05So...
06:06It's very exciting...
06:07It's...
06:08More emotional...
06:09More dramatic...
06:10And...
06:11Sometimes...
06:12With edge of the seat...
06:13Sort of a thrill also.
06:14So...
06:15Hopefully...
06:16Everyone watching the show...
06:17On 19th September...
06:18On Jio Hotstar...
06:19Would love it.
06:20On Jio Hotstar...
06:21Would love it.
06:22Okay...
06:23And my next question is for both the actors...
06:25The format of...
06:26You know...
06:27A web series or a television series is that...
06:28You have to come back to a character after a year or six months...
06:31But in the middle you are having...
06:33Other works as well...
06:34There's film coming in...
06:35Or there could be another movie...
06:36A theatrical release or a streaming release...
06:38When you come back to a character...
06:40For example...
06:41Say Noyanika...
06:42Or your character...
06:43What are...
06:44What's the starting point...
06:46That you feel that...
06:47You know...
06:48Now you are getting into the character back...
06:49To where...
06:50Where it was all left...
06:51In the previous season...
06:52I think for...
06:54I think for us...
06:56Getting back into...
06:58Trial Season 2...
06:59Was actually really easy...
07:01Because...
07:02A4-1...
07:03We had a great time shooting Season 1...
07:05So we had such a blast...
07:07And...
07:08We came back...
07:09And Season 2...
07:10Barely took us a day...
07:11To get back into character...
07:12Really...
07:13It was...
07:14Fun...
07:15Cool...
07:16Sab...
07:17Sab...
07:18Mille oe loog thai hain...
07:19Jinko pehle bhi mil chuke hain...
07:20Aap kitni baar...
07:21And...
07:22Umesh ji was...
07:23So much...
07:24In...
07:25I think...
07:26I think the director is...
07:27A person...
07:28Who dictates...
07:29What the set is going to be like...
07:31And Umesh ji was...
07:32Absolutely wonderful...
07:33In that way...
07:34That he kept the temperament on the sets...
07:36Very correct...
07:38And...
07:39So we could have fun...
07:40And...
07:41We could work...
07:42We worked also well...
07:43And we had fun also...
07:44Knowing that...
07:45Umesh ji is shanth...
07:46Ok...
07:47Ok...
07:48Ok...
07:49So...
07:50Yeah...
07:51Same here...
07:52It is like...
07:53Coming back home...
07:54I mean...
07:55One season...
07:56We did shoot...
07:57It was a successful...
07:58It's like coming back home...
07:59And...
08:00When you...
08:01Meet...
08:02Naonic on set...
08:03Or...
08:04Meet...
08:05What would I say...
08:07Rajiv on set...
08:09Things are already there...
08:10You just need to...
08:11You know...
08:12Get that...
08:13So...
08:14We were shooting at the same...
08:15Ghar...
08:16Jo...
08:17Yeah...
08:18You know...
08:19When you enter that space...
08:20You are already there...
08:21As a character...
08:22And...
08:23Of course...
08:24Umesh ji...
08:25Give us that leeway...
08:26That...
08:27You know...
08:28You can go...
08:29A notch higher...
08:30Where you left...
08:31You can...
08:32You know...
08:33You can still experiment with your character...
08:34Yes...
08:35He was there to correct...
08:36Ye mat karo...
08:37Ye karo...
08:38But...
08:39So...
08:40You...
08:41As an actor also...
08:42You push yourself...
08:43Little more...
08:44You know...
08:45To...
08:46To cross that boundary...
08:47Where...
08:48And he helped us with that...
08:49So...
08:50Yes...
08:51Where we left...
08:52We took off from there...
08:53And...
08:54Hopefully...
08:55Chakka hua hai...
08:56Anyway...
08:57Sir...
08:58Iske liye...
08:5919th September sir...
09:0019th September...
09:01Jio...
09:02Hot star...
09:03The trial...
09:05Season 2...
09:06Pyaar kanun do ka...
09:08Abhi...
09:09Khatam oga...
09:13Umesh sir...
09:14My next question is for you...
09:15She said that...
09:16You know...
09:17Director is someone who sets the tone...
09:18On a set...
09:19Now...
09:20Different mediums...
09:21Stage...
09:22Cinema...
09:23And OTT...
09:24Stage...
09:25It's said that...
09:26The actor is the one...
09:27Who calls the shots...
09:28Because...
09:29Ultimately...
09:30The performance rests on their shoulder...
09:31A director can't do anything much...
09:32Films...
09:33Is a director's medium...
09:34Who do you think...
09:35The medium of OTT belongs to...
09:36Is it the director...
09:37Actor...
09:38The writer...
09:39Or...
09:40Everyone in the team...
09:41I think OTT is a derivative of cinema...
09:42So...
09:43Obviously...
09:44I would...
09:45Like to believe that...
09:46It's still the medium of the director...
09:47Okay...
09:48So...
09:49It is the medium of the director...
09:50And...
09:51I'm glad that...
09:52You know...
09:53The cast and crew of...
09:54The trial...
09:55Season 2...
09:56Which is coming on 19th September...
09:57On Jio...
10:00They're fantastic people...
10:01They know...
10:02They...
10:03They acknowledge this...
10:04And...
10:05They gave me that kind of...
10:06You know...
10:07Creative space...
10:08To work in...
10:09So...
10:10It was beautiful...
10:11That...
10:12That...
10:13You know...
10:14That is the validation...
10:15Which we need...
10:16and Kajal and Jishu had many scenes and there was a very intense shoot.
10:24After one day, Jishu just came to me and said,
10:31Sir, go to the house and go to the house.
10:35What is your work?
10:37So that is the validation which we need.
10:41He knows how to work on the set.
10:46So when he said, yes, it's fun.
10:49So that's the thing.
10:52He has to understand.
10:54But we really had a good time.
10:56Yes, OTT 2 is our director's meeting.
11:00And Kajal Ma'am, he mentioned in the earlier question that he got a set of two spontaneous actors.
11:05And then he mentioned in the last answer that there were certain scenes which were really emotionally draining or taxing.
11:10When you do those scenes, cut to when the cameras have stopped rolling and your own, you know, like a personal or a natural space as actors, as co-actors interacting.
11:20And then there is banter going on.
11:22Are you surprised by what you did vis-a-vis what's happening between you?
11:26Yeah, please ask me, sir. Director is sitting there.
11:28I am not surprised by this.
11:31Ask him whether he is surprised by this.
11:34No, no, no.
11:35I mean, what are you talking about?
11:38What are you talking about?
11:40You know?
11:41You are talking about it.
11:42I mean, there is an absolute fun banter going on.
11:45And yet we come back and answer your question.
11:47You know, very serious tone.
11:48The answer probably which you expect from us.
11:50Or viewers expect from us.
11:52We are having a lot of fun here.
11:53So, just in 2000 times, you have said that.
11:58So, it was more fun and intense.
12:03We have shown you that we are doing this.
12:08And in extension to that…
12:09And this is going to grow.
12:10You are sitting there.
12:11You are sitting there.
12:12Just sitting there.
12:13Just sitting there.
12:14Just sitting there.
12:15Just sitting there.
12:16Just sitting there.
12:17Just sitting there.
12:18Just sitting there.
12:19Just sitting there.
12:20And I will extend this a bit further.
12:22Is it…
12:23A major part of a director is managing the artist.
12:27You know, their mood, their temperament.
12:28So that they deliver well in front of the camera.
12:31We were managing Umeshi.
12:33How did that happen?
12:35How did that happen?
12:36We managed Umeshi.
12:38There was a point.
12:39Umeshi said,
12:40Let's do a little shooting.
12:42It was very serious.
12:43Let's do a little shooting.
12:44Then we can come back to this.
12:47So, I really wanted to ask that.
12:49How important it is to preserve this energy between the co-actors, the actors and the entire team.
12:54See, unless you have this kind of energy, this kind of honesty, this kind of fun, you won't be able to…
12:59I was trying to do crazy things.
13:01Like, there was a simple shot of Kajal walking in the corridor.
13:04Mm-hmm.
13:05And she was coming walking and I was at the monitor and the walk was not working for me.
13:10Mm-hmm.
13:11And it was not the walk.
13:13It was what she was thinking while walking was not working for me.
13:17Okay.
13:18Abhi, mai kaise samjho?
13:19Mm-hmm.
13:20So, that was my problem.
13:22Mm-hmm.
13:23And so I said, cut.
13:24And I got her from the monitor.
13:25And I went to her and she looked at me.
13:27Mm-hmm.
13:28And she said, yeah, I know.
13:29One more.
13:30Okay, okay, okay.
13:31Pujha pata hai.
13:32And next time she did, I didn't have to explain her anything.
13:35She did perfectly what I wanted.
13:37Mm-hmm.
13:38So, here is an actress with supernatural power.
13:40This is now, the next time someone asked me what is the latest rumor about you that you want to listen to.
13:48It's going to be this.
13:49She's going Hollywood.
13:50Marvel is DC.
13:51Good shit.
13:52New character.
13:53Haven't just finished.
13:54Yeah.
13:55That's right.
13:56That's great.
13:57I mean, there are some things that you can tell the actors.
14:00Mm-hmm.
14:01They have to realize intuitively.
14:02And which comes with the experience and maturity.
14:04So, I was being lucky to have Jishu and Kajal on the set and the wonderful artists.
14:08Mm-hmm.
14:09And my next question is for you, ma'am.
14:11Ishq is one of my favorite women.
14:13I think an entire genre of film.
14:15The drama, the humor, the music, everything.
14:16This is one song, Mr. Lova Lova.
14:17I was listening to it a few days ago.
14:18And I realized it's very similar.
14:19The initial part of it is very similar to what Freddie Mercury sang in one of his performances.
14:22A-O, A-O, Pala Jo Paate.
14:23Were you privy to that while that was being put together, the entire song?
14:24No, I was not.
14:25No, I was not.
14:26Not at all.
14:27I think that, you know.
14:28I think that, you know.
14:29Yeah.
14:30Yeah.
14:31Yeah.
14:32Yeah.
14:33Yeah.
14:34Yeah.
14:35Yeah.
14:36Yeah.
14:37Yeah.
14:38There used to be a lot of creative inspiration.
14:39Yeah.
14:40There used to be a lot of creative inspiration.
14:41Yeah.
14:42There was a lot of creative inspiration which, no, we were not privy to it till we got on
14:59set and we had to actually shoot the song.
15:00I was not part of that song, but yeah.
15:01Okay.
15:02So with that, we have reached the end of this conversation.
15:03If there's anything that I may have missed asking as a question or something that you
15:08will love.
15:09Drial Season 2 is releasing on the 19th of September.
15:12On Jio Hotstar.
15:13On Jio Hotstar.
15:14Aap bhi humare saath bol lijiye.
15:16On Jio Hotstar.
15:17One, two, three.
15:19Drial Season 2 releasing on Jio Hotstar on the 19th of September.
15:27Perfect.
15:28So on that note, thank you so much.
15:29I wish all the best for the second.
15:30Absolutely.
15:31Love you guys.
15:33Done?
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