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00:00It's quite a unique family setup, this one.
00:12We are in southern Florida, Fort Lauderdale.
00:17Known for its ageing and conservative population,
00:21the Sunshine State perhaps isn't the kind of place
00:24you'd expect to find this progressive family unit.
00:29It's two mums, one dad, three kids, all living in the one family home.
00:37My understanding at this point is Linda was with Christopher,
00:44like, they were a couple.
00:47But now I think Linda and Maddy are the couple romantically.
00:54Linda and Chris married in 2016 and had two kids together.
01:00But after six years, Linda dropped the bombshell that she was gay.
01:05The couple broke up but continued to live together.
01:08Then Linda met girlfriend Maddy and moved her into the home she shared with Chris.
01:14When Maddy and Linda decided to have a baby, Linda asked Chris to be the dad.
01:20He said yes and Maddy gave birth to Arlo.
01:24Now all three kids and three parents live under one roof by a choice in a co-parenting idyll.
01:36I'm desperate to know how does this family make it work?
01:41Is there some kind of hierarchy?
01:44And where does Chris fit in all of this?
01:47Because from the outside looking in,
01:50it's like you've got two women in this loving relationship.
01:54He's living with his ex and a new woman.
02:0034-year-old digital creator Linda and 37-year-old entrepreneur Chris are not quite yet divorced.
02:19And do you prefer Chris or Christopher?
02:21Chris.
02:22Chris.
02:23Christopher's too formal.
02:24Except when I call him Chris, he gets really weird about it.
02:27Well, it's because it's lately that you started doing that.
02:29She normally calls me Christopher.
02:30Fine.
02:31But family call me Christopher and then everybody else is Chris.
02:34So I'm Chris.
02:35Yeah.
02:36Melissa, thank you so much for allowing me into your home.
02:38Of course.
02:39We're excited to have you.
02:40No, likewise.
02:41How is it this tidy?
02:42You've got three kids.
02:43Oh, they're not home.
02:44That's why.
02:45And where's Maddy?
02:46At work.
02:47She's at work.
02:48She'll be back around like 4.
02:49Great.
02:50So can I have a look around?
02:51Of course.
02:52Will I take my shoes off?
02:53No, you can keep them on if you're comfy with them on.
02:54Really?
02:55Let me take them off.
02:56I wear my shoes, so it's totally up to you.
02:57Let me take them off.
02:58This is Christopher's wing.
02:59Your own wing?
03:00Yeah, but his room is actually right here.
03:01That's why it's his wing.
03:02Oh, so this is your bedroom?
03:03Well, it used to be over there.
03:04So you two used to share a bedroom?
03:05We used to share a bedroom.
03:06Yes.
03:07A romantic relationship?
03:08Uh-huh.
03:09And then we separated.
03:10Uh-huh.
03:11I came out later in life.
03:12And we decided, you know, that we are going to be a little bit of a room.
03:17Yes.
03:18A romantic relationship?
03:19Uh-huh.
03:20And then we separated.
03:21Uh-huh.
03:22I came out later in life.
03:24And we decided, you know, that we enjoy parenting together.
03:27That wasn't necessarily the problem in our relationship.
03:30So we decided to move him to this side of the house.
03:33And we were going to continue to co-parent together.
03:35So you two are no longer intimate?
03:37No.
03:38And then you and Maddie have a bedroom elsewhere?
03:41Yeah.
03:42Let's go show you.
03:43Can I see your room?
03:44My old bedroom.
03:45Chris, this is your old bedroom.
03:47Isn't that right?
03:48It was, okay, to be fair, he would fall asleep on the couch all the time.
03:51So it's, like, always been my room.
03:52That's true.
03:53Chris, your room is immaculate.
03:56Well, she designed it.
03:59The kids run back and forth, you know, especially early in the morning.
04:04The boys are five and three years old.
04:07And the youngest is just four months.
04:10So this is Arlo's room.
04:12So this is your four months old.
04:14Yeah.
04:15So Maddie carried your third child.
04:18My child.
04:19Yeah, yeah.
04:20Our child, but...
04:21Yeah.
04:22We're three parents in this house.
04:23Can I see your bedroom?
04:24Yeah, of course.
04:25Your old bedroom, but now you and Maddie.
04:28Yeah.
04:29And this is our room.
04:30Oh, cute.
04:31Look at this.
04:32Just ten months after Chris learned his wife was gay, Linda's new girlfriend Maddie moved in.
04:38Here's our little family wall.
04:41Something we did to kind of incorporate all of us together.
04:44So this is Maddie?
04:45Yeah.
04:46And where are you two here?
04:47Hawaii.
04:48Actually, that was our one-year anniversary.
04:51Oh.
04:52How long have you been together?
04:53It'll be two years next month or so.
04:54Okay.
04:55So still kind of a honeymoon period.
04:56Mm-hmm.
04:57Oh, how fun.
04:58Oh, yeah.
04:59It's definitely the honeymoon period.
05:00So where are all the children right now?
05:03Daycare and school.
05:04And I imagine it's just pretty nonstop with three kids.
05:07Yeah.
05:08I've just had a little girl.
05:09My baby's eight months old.
05:10Mm-hmm.
05:11And it is so hard when there are two of you.
05:14I can sort of see the appeal of having an extra pair of hands.
05:19The best part is if anyone is having an off day.
05:21Yeah.
05:22Or if you need a minute, you can take a minute.
05:24Yeah.
05:25Parenting is no off and on switch.
05:28Linda's, like, super accommodating.
05:30Chris is a real sweetheart.
05:33We know loads of marriages end up in divorce.
05:38And this is maybe quite a radical alternative.
05:43What was a bit jarring was when I asked Linda if I could see her bedroom.
05:50And Chris was like, oh, yeah, it's my old bedroom.
05:52Because, of course, them two were in a romantic relationship.
05:57And now he's elsewhere and there's a woman that's taken his spot.
06:06Will we go and get the kids?
06:08Yeah, let's do it.
06:10With three children aged five and under.
06:13Fingers crossed, Elliot is in a good mood today.
06:16I'm interested to find out the part each of the three parents play in the kids' lives.
06:22So Chris is Elliot and Owen's biological father?
06:26Correct.
06:27And does Chris see Arlo as one of his sons?
06:33Yeah, so we say, you know, he's a sperm donor because of the method, right?
06:38But we say he's a dad because of how he wanted to be, like, father figure.
06:43And just like he is with the other kids.
06:46So Chris really is a father to all three boys.
06:50Mm-hmm.
06:51You're the mother to all three boys.
06:53Yeah.
06:54And Maddie's role?
06:56We call her, like, the bonus mom to the big kids because, you know, she helps with everything.
07:02And she is the one to play soccer with them.
07:06She's a little more, like, hands-on when it comes to that kind of stuff.
07:10And so she truly is the bonus mom.
07:13And Maddie and I jokingly were talking about when we first met, like, literally our second date,
07:21talking about how, you know, she wants to be a mom.
07:24And I'm like, okay, great. I have two kids. You can have one of mine.
07:27She's like, no, I want to carry.
07:29And I'm like, okay.
07:30I'm like, would it be weird if Christopher was your donor?
07:33Wait, you're having this conversation on your second date?
07:36Yeah.
07:37When I met Maddie, there was just no doubt in my mind how much I was falling in love with her.
07:47Linda.
07:48And, you know, here we are.
07:51And we did it all.
07:54Hi, Elliot.
07:56I suppose what makes your situation unique is you're all living under the one roof.
08:03Yeah.
08:05Which would take some adjusting.
08:06Oh, for sure.
08:09Owen, you want to say hi, Stacey?
08:11She's going to be spending the night with us.
08:13I'm going to sleep on the sofa. Is that all right?
08:16Is that okay? She can sleep on your couch?
08:18No.
08:19No.
08:20Am I in the garden with the dogs?
08:24Owen, how old are you?
08:25How old are you?
08:26Back at the house.
08:27It'd be easy to forget this isn't a run-of-the-mill family.
08:31I don't know.
08:32You've forgotten your age.
08:33Same.
08:36I want to find out how Linda went from a traditional marriage with two kids to something so unconventional.
08:44However much you feel comfy offering, can you talk me through what your relationship with Chris was like?
08:50You know, I always remember like the intimacy has always been like an issue for me.
08:56So then the thing with Christopher is that we had babies and so then I started blaming, you know, me being tired or touched out or the breastfeeding on, you know, all of that.
09:07The lack of sex.
09:08The lack of sex.
09:09Yeah.
09:10Well, everything, you know.
09:11It's just like it wasn't that connection that I always thought I was missing and so I was searching for it.
09:16But at the time I was actually searching for it like in children.
09:18I was like, I want to feel, you know, that something.
09:22And so I had kids and I was just like, I'm like, what is it?
09:25At one point I was asking my friend, I'm like, do I need to have like an open marriage?
09:30Have someone else sleep with him?
09:31But it just, that was just the start of really figuring out what the problem was.
09:38Linda is one of a growing number of women who discovered they're lesbian after being married to a man.
09:44So when you got with Chris, did you in your heart of hearts believe you were straight or did you, did you know you were gay?
09:52No, I definitely thought that I was straight.
09:54And so I think growing up in like Western Florida, you know, kind of not really being exposed to a lot growing up was why it kind of took me a long time to like figure that out, you know.
10:05But ultimately, like we're still together, like we're going to be in this life together, whether we like it or not, because we have these kids.
10:12So it's like, we might as well make the best of it.
10:16While there's no going back to the way things were with Chris, now one thing's abundantly clear.
10:23You are the most sense my life has ever made. Wow.
10:27Linda and girlfriend Maddie are head over heels in love.
10:32So Linda's written that to Maddie or Maddie's written that to Linda.
10:37It's quite profound, isn't it? You are the most sense my life has ever made.
10:41I can't pretend that me and Kev go around writing such lovely things on our, on our mirrors.
10:57And I cannot wait to meet the woman who was chosen to have a baby with her girlfriend's ex-husband.
11:03Hey, Mama's going to be home soon. Are you excited?
11:15In suburban Florida, I'm finding out if three parents are better than two.
11:19With ex-husband and wife Linda and Christopher, and Linda's girlfriend, 36-year-old Maddie.
11:27Hi. Hi. Maddie, I'm Stacey.
11:31Mind-wise, thank you so, so much.
11:33Maddie is a medical practitioner and has just gone back to work after having baby Arlo, who was fathered by Chris.
11:41Coming through.
11:43Hi. Thanks, everyone.
11:45I'm keen to find out how parent and duties are shared.
11:49You're not pooping, are you?
11:51This household of two mums and one dad.
11:54What time do you go to bed?
11:56Are you allowed to go a bit later because it's the weekend?
11:58A little bit later.
12:00Like five minutes.
12:01We're pretty...
12:02We, by we, I mean she is the really strict one.
12:06He gives them whatever they want for breakfast, whatever they want for dinner.
12:10Well, someone's gotta try to make them eat, like, dinner food.
12:18I'm only starting to scratch the surface of how the dynamics work here.
12:22And right now, the bedtime routine takes precedence.
12:27Mine includes...
12:29Pure luxury.
12:30A blow-up mattress in the living room.
12:34Good night.
12:35It's beautiful to you.
12:36See you manana.
12:38Yes.
12:41I can see why some people would find me quite peculiar.
12:49I can't imagine Chris and Linda together, like, romantically.
12:59Which, of course, they did at one time.
13:01Linda and Maddy are super affectionate.
13:05I do wonder what it's been like for Chris.
13:09Because I don't think many people could watch their ex-wife fall in love with somebody else under the same roof and be genuinely happy for them.
13:22Do this.
13:23Yes!
13:24Yes!
13:25I win!
13:26And then do that.
13:27Yes!
13:28Oh my, look at you.
13:29Oh, oh, careful.
13:30How did you sleep?
13:31Sleep in the other bed.
13:32That's right.
13:33How did you sleep?
13:34That's right.
13:35How did you sleep?
13:36Close my eyes and I go to sleep.
13:37Yeah, that's good.
13:38Owen.
13:39Owen was two years old when his family dynamics changed. And being a new mum myself, I'm interested to know how the kids find having three parents under the one roof.
13:59So when the boys wake up, do they go into your room? And when it became apparent that Mummy was sharing a bed with Maddy, how did Owen and Elliot respond? Because presumably there was a time when they would come into Mummy and Daddy's bed.
14:17Initially Elliot, a little bit in the very beginning, I'd say like after a month or so that I was like here almost every day, he started like pulling away just a little bit.
14:29He was the one initially that like was all over me. Like we couldn't be separated. And then I think he kind of was like, all right, what's going on, you know?
14:36And then we just gave him like the information. We just talked to them and explained to them like, you know, I'm in love with Mummy. Mommy's in love with Maddy.
14:45What do the boys call you, Maddy?
14:47So it's funny. Owen couldn't say my name when he met me. So I was my daddy. That's how he said Maddy. So that's why you'll hear him call me Daddy. He knows my name is Maddy, but he just stuck with Daddy.
14:59Which is not stepping on anyone's toes because he goes by Papa.
15:02I don't go by Daddy. So it doesn't bother me at all. I think it's hilarious. It is absolutely perfect.
15:08OK, I'm ready for spitball. Spitball.
15:15This morning, I've been instructed to get ready for an all American sport I can't say I'm familiar with.
15:22Pickle. Pickle. Pickleball.
15:25Twice a month, Maddy and Chris play opposite each other in pickleball.
15:30Wish me luck. Without Linda.
15:32So cool.
15:38Guys, let's play pickleball.
15:44Ready?
15:49Oh.
15:51Whoops.
15:53Oh, sorry. I have to keep it in the green box.
15:56Okay.
15:57Whoops.
16:06I didn't know what pickleball was two hours ago.
16:10But now I'm like fully, fully signed up.
16:15Pickleball's more tiring than it looks.
16:18So I take some time out to get Maddy's perspective on how this all started.
16:22So you and Linda, your two year anniversary is coming up.
16:27Yeah.
16:28A lot has happened in two years.
16:29Oh my God, so much.
16:31We met on a dating app, right?
16:32I was swiping, came across her picture.
16:34I thought I was going to get catfished.
16:37I was like, oh my goodness, this is not a real person.
16:41So I asked her to go out that night.
16:43We had a great evening.
16:44We spoke all night.
16:45And she told me, obviously, her situation.
16:47I told her mine.
16:48And I left there after we had a kiss.
16:51And it was quite beautiful.
16:53It was sparks, you know?
16:54Jeez, electrical.
16:58And when she explains what her situation looked like, did you think,
17:04I've sort of bitten off more than I can chew here?
17:06I left there thinking, oh my God, what am I doing?
17:08What am I getting myself into?
17:09This is nuts.
17:10And then also, but this could be amazing.
17:13All these thoughts were racing through my mind, back and forth, back and forth.
17:16And so by the time I got home, I think she had already texted me like,
17:19when am I going to see you again?
17:21And we made plans and we had a second date and went swimmingly.
17:26And the rest is history.
17:28The rest is literally history.
17:29Very few people get to like their mid-30s and they haven't had serious relationships prior.
17:35Like my boyfriend who's been married three times.
17:37Really?
17:38Yeah.
17:39My friends call me Anne of Cleves.
17:41And obviously you don't ever think that you're going to fall in love with someone
17:44who's been with three women before, but life is life.
17:47Yeah.
17:48I never thought I'd be in this predicament either.
17:49Right.
17:50But I'm so happy where I am.
17:51You and Chris seemingly have this pretty solid friendship now.
17:55Yeah.
17:57I think, you know, for me and Chris, it's going to be difficult for him and for us with regards to,
18:02you know, him finding his other half and his happiness.
18:06And we want that so bad for him.
18:07And I think that's probably going to be our biggest thing is that whoever you choose is,
18:13we'll probably be involved in our lives and our kids' lives.
18:16And I think that that'll probably be the most difficult thing for us as a unit,
18:21for the safety of our children.
18:22And I get that.
18:23Who do you think would be good for Chris?
18:25What kind of woman?
18:26An open-minded woman.
18:28She's going to have to be very open-minded.
18:30Yeah.
18:32I think if you're looking at this, you could think, why is it so important for Chris
18:38that he's still very much on the scene?
18:41Why does this work for him?
18:47Roof to be fixed.
18:49This afternoon, I've been allowed to sit in on the family's monthly meeting.
18:53What else?
18:54We need to keep up on the vacuuming daily for allergies and stuff.
18:59As well as being the forum for making decisions big and small.
19:02Any projects?
19:04It's an opportunity to air any grievances.
19:07How about Arlo's morning crying?
19:10How are you doing on it?
19:11I'm going to work on letting him cry.
19:15I'm working on it.
19:16Just let him cry.
19:17It's easier said than done.
19:18I'm good at letting him cry.
19:20You're also across the whole house.
19:23You're not hearing it right.
19:25No, but even before with the other kids, I mean...
19:28Yeah, that was really annoying, actually.
19:30So that's not a bonus here.
19:32I'm, like, having hot flashes while my kids are crying.
19:35And he's just like, it's fine.
19:36I'm like, shut up.
19:37Gotta get through it.
19:39It's not okay.
19:40These are questions for all families.
19:43So it's just interesting to see how it plays out when there are three of you.
19:46Yeah.
19:47So how often do you have these meetings?
19:49Once a month.
19:50Just to check in.
19:51Yeah.
19:52Sometimes they get heated.
19:53Emotionally charged.
19:54I get frustrated with Christopher when he doesn't put the kids to bed the way I do it or the time that I do it or how he feeds them.
20:06And I get frustrated with the amount of cups that Linda uses throughout the day.
20:11We do so...
20:12I do so much in the house.
20:13That's his job.
20:14I'm sorry.
20:15That's your job.
20:16You do the dishes.
20:17That's how you contribute.
20:18So that's why she piles them up?
20:19Yeah.
20:20So that is non-negotiable.
20:21Is there anything, sort of the fundamentals?
20:25Do you disagree on anything there?
20:27I mean, a big one that's coming up right now is whether or not we want to stay in Florida.
20:34Okay.
20:35We don't know how that would work and what that would look like, but I mean, Florida doesn't feel like the place to stay and raise our family and raise our kids.
20:44School shootings, which are outrageous.
20:46Women's rights.
20:47Women's rights.
20:48Gay rights.
20:49Gay rights.
20:52In 2023, Florida expanded its controversial so-called Don't Say Gay Bill, which prohibits discussing LGBTQ plus issues in schools statewide.
21:03I guess you need to take into consideration your kids are going to, you know, grow up and if their peers, folks, hold those views.
21:16Yeah, exactly.
21:17Well, I guess it's more of a fear of the unknown of like, you know, what they'll be exposed to or, you know, or made, you know, made fun of or, you know, who knows, you know.
21:25Clearly, there are many angles to consider when you live in a parent in Triangle and there are big decisions to be made.
21:34You know, I think the current set up is definitely in its infancy.
21:40Whilst lots of things work, there are going to be hurdles that they're going to have to overcome.
21:49So, is it sustainable? I don't know.
22:03In southern Florida, I'm exploring where the last in domestic utopia is a reality for this family of two mums and one dad.
22:13Chris?
22:14Yeah.
22:15Am I right to come in?
22:16Yeah.
22:17I'm actually just, just making my bed and I'm about to fold a bunch of my laundry.
22:21Hedonistic lifestyle.
22:24Chris, you thought you were going to live this life and you've ended up living something like this is completely different to what you had in mind.
22:33Yeah.
22:34What was it really like when your wife told you, look, I'm, I'm gay?
22:40I'm gay.
22:43So, well, it didn't happen quite like that.
22:46Okay, so she approached me with, I think I'm bi.
22:52And I remember that it was totally out of the blue.
22:54Uh-huh.
22:55Because we'd already been together for quite some time.
22:57I think she was feeling it, but she didn't know how to say it because of the pain.
23:01I think I came to her and I said, you're not bi.
23:07You're not straight.
23:08You're definitely gay.
23:09You're definitely a gay.
23:10You're definitely a lesbian.
23:11Of course, I went through it too with her.
23:13It was a discovery process for both of us.
23:15It must have been really difficult for you at times.
23:18Well, so.
23:19Like, this is your wife.
23:20That, that was when the pain started.
23:23One part of our relationship was we both started realizing it was over.
23:28And that was 100% painful for, for both of us.
23:32In the beginning, for sure, it was like, you know, getting the notifications on my phone
23:37of like, of us like two years before or four years before because we had been together for a while.
23:42So there were like, there's so many memories and photos.
23:44I was in it for, for life, you know?
23:47And, um, we, we sat down and we're like, okay, so now what?
23:52Do we have to split all of our assets down the middle and buy another home?
23:57And then we got to trade the kids every other weekend.
24:00So we know people that have gone through divorce and, and when you talk to them about their own experiences,
24:07it's, it's all negative and staying together for the sake of the children.
24:11And that's not what we, what we did is like, that is not us staying in the same home for the kids.
24:18We're staying in the same home because we are capable of doing it and we want to.
24:23So, so what would you say to those people who are thinking, what is Chris really getting out of this?
24:28I get to see my kids every day and I have a partnership, a co-parenting partnership that is healthy.
24:38I don't see anything negative about it. It won't work for everybody and that's okay.
24:43Do you think those that love you were worried that you would find it too difficult or too painful?
24:52I think they were more worried about, for example, how are you going to date?
24:57Like, what do you say to them?
24:59By the way, by the way, I have three kids. Oh, and I'm married. Technically we're going to get divorced. Oh, and we live together.
25:08She's like, gotta go. Bye.
25:10And I practiced like how I would explain my situation. And I agreed that like, I would say it right away.
25:20I'm trying to think if I met someone and I was really into him and I really fancied him and then he's like, oh, by the way, Stacy, I still live with my wife.
25:30I'd be like, oh, red flag.
25:34I would feel so awkward about coming to my boyfriend's house and having to hang out with his wife. Do you know what I mean?
25:43It is awkward. I did learn very quickly and I kind of expected it. Dating was going to be more difficult for our own family situation.
25:58Chris happens to have a date with a woman tonight. As it's still early days of the relationship, a lot of collective thought is going into his sartorial choices.
26:08Okay, finishing ironing one shirt.
26:11Is he doing a passion show for us?
26:14So he sort of genuinely wants your input?
26:17Yeah, like he always has been like that.
26:19We have good taste.
26:20We have, he and I have similar tastes, I would say, in clothing.
26:23In women?
26:24In women.
26:26In like a lot of things.
26:28The first time I met him, I almost thought I was like, this guy is like a male version of me almost.
26:33Chris, we're ready.
26:35Okay, shirt one.
26:37Oh, I like that one.
26:39Love this for you.
26:40What color shoes are you going to wear?
26:41Black.
26:42The black?
26:43All black?
26:44All black.
26:45Okay.
26:46All right, that's shirt one.
26:47Long legs.
26:48Chris, you look great.
26:49All right.
26:50Love the shirt.
26:51Are things like this ever weird for you?
26:52Yeah, I have to say that, like I get that people don't get it, you know?
26:57Like I also didn't get it.
26:58I definitely wasn't like, I'm going to get married and then don't get divorced and then I'm going
27:03to have a girlfriend and then I'm going to, we're all going to live together.
27:06Like that just was not the plan, you know?
27:08Yeah.
27:09You guys figured it out together first before you let anyone else, which I think is why your
27:14foundation is so strong.
27:16And shirt number two.
27:17That's cool.
27:18That's like daytime.
27:19Yeah.
27:20That's a daytime shirt.
27:21Yeah.
27:22I really like that one.
27:23I actually like that one.
27:24I know you would.
27:25It looks really comfortable.
27:26Yeah, I'm going to go with the second one.
27:28Honestly.
27:29I want to see what else.
27:30I want you to try the flower one on.
27:32So far, this is my favorite out of the two.
27:34You like the first one, I can tell.
27:36For dinner, I think this is a good pick.
27:38Yeah, because if you get something on it, you won't be able to tell.
27:41Get a bit of salsa down it.
27:44She'll have no idea.
27:46Because I wonder if he just looks at you two, and you two are so obviously really into each
27:55other.
27:56He never had that with you.
27:58He definitely has mentioned that, you know?
28:01He said he's the both of us.
28:03Yeah.
28:04He says, you know, like, it may not be so easy for me to meet someone and fall head over heels
28:10in love with them, and I might, you know, it might take me some time to find what you
28:15guys have.
28:16Ooh.
28:18This is for like a theme party.
28:20It's very busy.
28:21It's an optical illusion.
28:22It's catchy though.
28:25Are we going to say which ones we like the most now?
28:27Two.
28:28Yeah, I quite, it's between one and two.
28:30I agree.
28:31I like one.
28:32What do you fill the part in?
28:34Yeah, what?
28:35Tonight, actually, number two.
28:36Yeah, right?
28:37Yeah, I like it a lot.
28:39What?
28:40You're so handsome.
28:41You look fantastic.
28:42Do you want to have his baby?
28:44I can't have a baby.
28:45Done that.
28:46In fact, I'm the only lady on this sofa that you don't have a child with.
28:51And then you, you're both coming back here tonight.
28:54I don't want any, because I'm in the living room.
28:58I mean, the house is pretty, pretty, the door does it.
29:01Don't make it awkward for me, Chris.
29:03Do not make it awkward.
29:04Please do not.
29:05Please do not, okay?
29:06Don't you dare.
29:07Anyway.
29:08Don't you dare.
29:09I think she's at the door.
29:14Hope she likes the shirt.
29:16Have fun.
29:18Bye.
29:19Have a nice day.
29:22So, girls, give me the lowdown.
29:25What do we think of Chris's girlfriend?
29:28We care, obviously, so much about Christopher.
29:32Uh-huh.
29:33And it's just like, when your best friend starts dating someone, you want them to be the best possible person for them.
29:44And so, obviously, we're protective of him.
29:47And I think that's really what it is.
29:49Sometimes maybe a little overprotective.
29:51Oh.
29:52Matty, give it to me straight.
29:54We don't want him to settle.
29:56Right.
29:57And I know that, like, our situation for some reason just happened to be, like, picture perfect.
30:04You know?
30:05I don't know.
30:06We just get really lucky.
30:07And we want that for him, too.
30:09We care about him a lot.
30:10We love him.
30:11Do you love him, Matty?
30:12I love him.
30:13Do you?
30:14I do.
30:15How so?
30:16In, like, a, like a best friend kind of love, you know?
30:19Like a, like a, yeah, like a best friend or good friend.
30:24Someone you, you know, I genuinely care about him.
30:28Chris, Linda and Matty seem to be inextricably linked to each other's past, present and future.
30:35This is, uh, when they got married.
30:37Stop.
30:38How gorgeous.
30:39Oh, my.
30:41You look stunned here.
30:43So you got married in red?
30:44Yeah.
30:45Yeah.
30:46Yet, could it be that a new relationship for Chris is the thing that most impacts the balance they all work so hard to maintain?
30:55As a guest sleeping in the living room of the two mums, one dad's household, I'm grateful not to have been woken up by Chris and his new girlfriend, who stayed over last night after a successful date.
31:20Meemaw's birthday.
31:21Meemaw's birthday.
31:22It's Nani's birthday.
31:23Yeah, we call her Meemaw.
31:24Meemaw.
31:25Meemaw.
31:26Meemaw.
31:27That's exciting.
31:28How old is she going to be?
31:29Do you know?
31:30Three.
31:31Three.
31:32Today, we're heading to Linda's childhood home to meet Linda's and Maddie's side of the family.
31:39A chance for me to find out the extended family's thoughts on what the future might hold for the threesome.
31:47This is my mom's house.
31:48Oh, it is?
31:49Yeah.
31:50Did you grow up here?
31:51I grew up here.
31:52All right.
31:53My mom and Steve.
31:54Hi, Steve.
31:55I'm the husband.
31:56Nice to meet you.
31:57Stacy, hi.
31:58Likewise.
31:59Thank you for having me.
32:00That's my grandma.
32:01Barbara, I'm Stacy.
32:02Stacy, okay.
32:03Nice to meet you.
32:04How are you?
32:05Really nice to meet you.
32:06I think sometimes people can assume that different generations have very different points of view.
32:15Their set up, would that have ever worked for you?
32:18No.
32:19No.
32:20Absolutely not.
32:21No, no.
32:22Barbara, no.
32:23No, no, no, no.
32:25It was a surprise, but I was okay with it.
32:29I looked at her kids, because I was concerned, and I was like, he gets to stay too?
32:34Mm-hmm.
32:35And it works.
32:36It works.
32:37All of them together, it works.
32:38Mm-hmm.
32:39As Linda's stepfather, Steve has watched the family evolve.
32:44So I wonder if he thinks there's a weak spot in the parenting triangle.
32:49Well, I'm certainly concerned for Chris all the time, right?
32:54I don't really understand how he feels.
32:57So anytime you lose your love, it's got to be hard, right?
33:02So that's something he has to deal with.
33:05I believe him when he tells me he's happy.
33:07You do?
33:08Yes, I do.
33:09I believe him when he tells me he's happy.
33:10I don't believe that he was happy that it happened at all.
33:14Chris has made a decision to have another child now.
33:17It's a big commitment to make, to have a child, much less to have a child with two separate women in the same relationship.
33:24Who am I to say who you should love, even though I have a Christian background?
33:29And that's really, people say, how do you handle a Christian background?
33:33And I say, man, who am I to say what you should do?
33:37What do you think Chris gets out of this living arrangement?
33:41Well, I think that's the toughest part of it.
33:43I think that's the toughest part of it.
33:45You know, Chris has been pursuing relationships.
33:47So I think that will happen when his girlfriend or fiance or whoever he has a relationship with, what happens when she says, hey, let's go.
33:55You ask me what I think.
33:57I don't see him staying.
33:58No, I mean, that would be, he's going to have his own life, you know?
34:02Unless, of course, they move in together and buy a bigger house and who knows, maybe that happens.
34:07Maybe it's completely different, right?
34:09I can't imagine, you know, but I haven't been able to imagine this.
34:15Next to arrive is Maddy's mum, Marina.
34:18Hello, everybody.
34:19Oh, no wonder it's so dark.
34:21Who I've heard isn't usually shy about voicing her opinions on her daughter's unorthodox lifestyle choices.
34:28So, Marina, I would love to hear your thoughts on your Maddy's living arrangements.
34:33Originally, when they first met, I had my reservations.
34:36I was a little scared.
34:37I was worried.
34:38It was a whole new family dynamic.
34:40My reservations were, though, how is this going to work?
34:43Why?
34:44With the three adults, one of my concerns was when the children start going to school,
34:48and the first thing they usually do in kindergarten is draw a picture of your family.
34:53Okay, let's see.
34:55There's mama, and there's bonus mama, and then there's daddy.
35:01There's my brother, Owen, and then there's Arlo.
35:06And they're going to sort of wonder, you know, well, can you explain how this family works?
35:11And children don't, you know.
35:13So my concern is that the children be prepared for what society may not embrace.
35:24And Maddy, you know, she went through an awful lot in middle school and high school because of her lifestyle.
35:33Maddy, were you nervous to tell your mom about your plans, your living plans?
35:39I was nervous a little bit.
35:41I think just, I don't know, nervous is the word.
35:44I just knew that she was going to have her reservations initially, you know.
35:48I finally said, I'm never going to get a chance.
35:50We're supposed to go out for dinner or something to talk about things.
35:52So we're going to talk about it right now.
35:54And then I said, this is what my concern is.
35:57I laid it right out.
35:58I said, what happens in a year or two in Maddy?
36:01This isn't working.
36:02What happens?
36:03You have a child to think about.
36:04You have three children to think about.
36:05I said, you know, we have to be the adults in the room here.
36:08What's the deal?
36:09I said, I just, I'm just telling you, you need to have thought all this out.
36:13Because nothing is going to be worse for children than having this blow up.
36:19You're adults, you're expected to handle it.
36:21But this, the child, they need to know they're secure.
36:25And especially if they're growing up as brothers, I don't want to see them pulled apart.
36:31Okay?
36:32They're a unit.
36:33There's that saying, isn't there?
36:35Like, three's a crowd.
36:36Do you think, and I think this is a legitimate question, do you think it's possible for all
36:41three of them to feel completely equal and completely fulfilled?
36:46I think that, you know, I worry about Christopher because, you know, he's going to need perhaps
36:54more in life than just living with the threesome, the three of them.
37:00And he's entitled to be happy.
37:02And I don't know how that's going to change because they're committed to the kids.
37:08And whatever Christopher ends up doing is fine with me.
37:12Okay?
37:13Just as long as the integrity of those relationships remain constant.
37:17I am one of these people who always go to the worst case scenario.
37:21And the worst case scenario was, God forbid, something happened to my daughter.
37:27And then Linda and Chris, something happens between them.
37:32If that happens, I need to know I have Arlo.
37:35I need to have access to Arlo because he's my only, my grandson.
37:39Maddy, we need to move Marina into the family home.
37:42Oh, my next generation home.
37:44Oh, yes.
37:45We're going to buy the next generation home.
37:47I can have the mother-in-law suite.
37:49We'll buy a house together.
37:50I'll get the suite in the back.
37:52No way.
37:53I'm sorry.
37:54Steve and Sandy on one of them and me on the other.
37:59And you've got the family right there.
38:01Oh, I love it.
38:02I don't do dishes.
38:03I'm sorry.
38:04Steve, I have to do the dishes.
38:05Happy birthday, too.
38:10Happy birthday to you.
38:17I have thought throughout the weekend how there may come a time when, you know, the kids are older.
38:26And Chris might start to feel a bit more redundant in that family home because it's going to be him living with his ex-wife and her girlfriends.
38:41And, you know, he may fall sort of head over heels with someone who doesn't want to subscribe to this situation.
38:56It's my last morning at the house of two mums and one dad.
39:02Call bus six.
39:04I'm a mum now, so this feels like me after me.
39:09And I'm up early to help with the chores.
39:12We've got boxes for recycling and then trash.
39:18All right.
39:19I'm out of here.
39:20Is that you gone, Maddy?
39:21Yeah.
39:22There you go.
39:23So great meeting you.
39:24Safe travels.
39:26We'll have you back any time.
39:27You guys are welcome, all right?
39:28For this family, leaving the state of Florida might be the next big step.
39:32But I want to ask Chris how he feels about what must be the most immediate challenge ahead.
39:38Some people might be wondering how sustainable this is because it's working right now.
39:47But in a couple of years time, are you ever going to really be able to move on with your love life?
39:54Nothing, nothing is permanent.
39:58So we will continue with the situation and our living arrangements as long as it makes sense.
40:07I've started multiple businesses and that's something you learn very quickly as an entrepreneur.
40:12You have to evolve.
40:14And that's the same with relationships.
40:15That's the same with family units.
40:18Why aren't more people doing this if it's so great?
40:21Do you know what I mean?
40:22Because it's scary.
40:24It's scary.
40:25It's scary doing something that people from the outside don't approve with.
40:30Most people care about what their community thinks.
40:33They care about what their parents think.
40:35And that's not to say that we don't care.
40:40We do.
40:41But we're thinking about ourselves.
40:46Before I leave, I have one more question for the person this set up perhaps seems to benefit the most.
40:52Do you think you and Maddie will get married?
40:55You know, I have to get divorced first.
40:57Yes.
40:58Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:00But yeah, we definitely talk about spending our lives together.
41:04And what role do you imagine Chris would play on the day but also in your marriage?
41:10I kind of thought we might ask him to be the person who weds us.
41:15I haven't even told him about that yet.
41:17Maddie and I have talked about that but that would be kind of special, you know?
41:20Oh, wow.
41:21But I think that would kind of tie us all together anyways.
41:26You have two adults that really genuinely love you.
41:31I mean, what's your secret?
41:34Why are they so in love with you, Linda?
41:37I think I really do just wear my whole heart on my sleeve.
41:43I appreciate them and I think that's also why Christopher and I still have this, able to have this relationship.
41:49I have nothing to, like, hide.
41:52How would you describe your relationship with Chris right now, like today?
41:56We definitely fight.
41:58I've tried very different variations of motherhood and they didn't suit me.
42:02You know, this does.
42:03And this is going to sound really strange, right?
42:06But, like, I love him like family.
42:09Like, obviously, we are still married and I would not marry my brother.
42:15But I adore him as such, you know?
42:19It's not romantic.
42:20But I care about him and so we're just trying to make it work as best as possible.
42:26Gang, it's time to say goodbye.
42:29Oh, no!
42:30The drama.
42:31The drama!
42:32You have been a dream.
42:34Of course.
42:35I'm really, really grateful.
42:36Chris, thank you, Mary.
42:38This isn't for everyone.
42:40There are so many families that would not be able to subscribe to this.
42:45And I think they know that.
42:47But I do think it works for them.
42:52You have an air mattress here for you anytime.
42:54It's a luxe double air mattress.
42:57Send my love to Maddy and the boys.
43:00I will.
43:01They're going to miss you.
43:02Likewise.
43:03Take care, yeah?
43:04I don't think this will work forever.
43:06Ready?
43:07One, two, three.
43:09For now, I can totally see the benefits.
43:13Right, gang.
43:14All the love.
43:15Thank you so, so much.
43:16Take care.
43:17Take care.
43:18Ciao for now.
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