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Channing Tatum reunites with his 'Roofman' director Derek Cianfrance to put their relationship to the test. They discuss how Tatum lost 65 pounds for the role, who would be better suited to live in a Toys r Us, and where Gambit's accent comes from.
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00:00I would have never got it right though, unless I cheated.
00:02This is so easy.
00:03This is so easy.
00:04I could not cheat.
00:05I wanted you to be in Blue Valentine and you said...
00:07I said no.
00:08No.
00:09What you want me to say, chef?
00:16We all like going back in time and imagining how things could have gone differently.
00:22When and where did you first meet?
00:26Okay, I know this answer.
00:30I have the right answer.
00:36No, I have the right answer.
00:41I'm right.
00:43This one's right.
00:44No way.
00:45Uh-huh.
00:46We met in 2006 at a party for a guide to recognizing your saints.
00:51Damn.
00:52And you had just read the script for Blue Valentine and I wanted you to be in Blue Valentine and you said...
00:58I said no.
00:59No.
01:00I wasn't ready to do that movie.
01:02He said no.
01:03And then the second time we met was in a park.
01:05Yes.
01:06And in that park, I said, do you remember we met like 17 years ago?
01:10And you said, I think about that all the time.
01:12And I said next time...
01:13No, I think about reading the script all the time and saying no, especially after I saw the movie.
01:17But I still think Ryan did it better, personally.
01:19I didn't remember saying that to you.
01:20He did a very good job.
01:21He did an exceptional job.
01:22He did a very good job.
01:23I didn't know why I said no, because I'd never been in a relationship like that.
01:27So I was like, man, I don't know how to do that.
01:30I actually totally forgot about that.
01:31You did.
01:32I think I was panicking because I didn't know the name of the park.
01:34What was the name of the park?
01:35Prospect Park.
01:36It was Prospect.
01:37I'm winning this game.
01:38I hate losing.
01:39Did Derek have any reference films for Roofman?
01:42What were they?
02:03It's almost like a word for word kind of like, like copy of the movie.
02:07You took it shot for shot.
02:14I almost did tootsie.
02:15Really?
02:16Yeah.
02:17That was one?
02:18Yeah.
02:19We talked about that one.
02:20Well, it's a guy who wants to be, who can't be close to his kids, so has to go into disguise
02:25to be a part of a family.
02:27Tonally, I think there's some similarities because the great thing about Mrs. Doubtfire
02:31is that there's actual real stakes in that movie.
02:35Yeah, there's a real sadness to it.
02:37Like there's like real scary.
02:39Like it's scary all that time because you're just like, oh, this is going to go bad.
02:43Care Bears is like scary.
02:44It's sad.
02:45I've never seen it.
02:46You released it.
02:47Oh, yeah.
02:48I actually love that movie.
02:49It's good?
02:50Yeah, fully.
02:51It's animated?
02:52Yeah.
02:53What kind of accent does Gambit have?
02:56What you got?
02:57Marbles in.
02:58Yeah.
02:59No, no, not Creole.
03:00No?
03:01Not Creole.
03:02What is it?
03:03It's got a little Creole in it, but it's Cajun.
03:04Oh, Cajun.
03:05Cajun.
03:06Okay.
03:07They are good.
03:08But I just said marbles in his mouth and drunk.
03:10The name is Remy Labo.
03:11The Diablet Blanc.
03:12But you can call me the Gambit.
03:13What you want me to say, chef?
03:14It gets tougher the faster the conversation goes.
03:16And like, there are strange words that are very easy to drop into because you kind of,
03:37everything goes up.
03:38It'd be like, what you want to go eat?
03:40I'm like, it's very French in that way, but it's not French.
03:44It's strange that they have their own thing.
03:49Who knows more about the story of Jeffrey Manchester?
04:01Ready?
04:04Look, Derek knows every single thing, everything about each character.
04:09We had maybe 10 of the real actual people that were attached to Jeff's like real story.
04:16The actual person that was driving the truck that he escaped in.
04:20I bet you know, I bet you know things about him that like his family probably doesn't know.
04:27His ability to research and to chase the ghosts as he says is extraordinary.
04:33Well, I did spend about four and a half years talking to Jeff and everyone who would talk to me in his life.
04:39Yeah.
04:40500 hours or something of conversations.
04:42And I still talk to Jeff.
04:43He calls me all the time.
04:44But you lived his life.
04:47And as a filmmaker, I'm nothing without you.
04:50Well, same.
04:51Because all I have is like ideas or all I have is like research.
04:54But you had to live the role so that's why it's a tie.
04:56I do believe that this is our Jeff in the movie is a strange baby.
05:00Yeah.
05:01Between me, you and Jeff.
05:03Like actual Jeff.
05:05Oh, are you law enforcement?
05:06Yes.
05:07I am.
05:08Wow.
05:09That's amazing.
05:10I never got to meet Jeff.
05:12Unfortunately, they just couldn't work out.
05:15They didn't give me approval to go in and meet him before we got filming.
05:18So I had to go a lot on just my phone calls with him.
05:21I did talk to Jeff a couple weeks ago and he said, he was like, I got it because he saw the trailer and on the news.
05:28And he says, I saw a picture of Channing in his underwear with like a pool floaty and a teddy bear on his shoulders.
05:37Jeff, if you ever see this, that's all Derek.
05:39That wasn't me.
05:41And I said, I said, I said, well, I was like, I was just hanging out in the toy store.
05:46We were getting ready to shoot and Channing came around the corner looking like that.
05:49And he said, you know, I'm really happy to hear that.
05:52I'm really happy Channing got to get in touch with his inner child.
05:55He said, because that's what happens to you when you live in a toy store for six months.
06:00How long did Jeffrey evade capture after he escaped?
06:09I'm going to get this wrong.
06:11Father's Day to January 4th.
06:22So June, June, June to January 4th.
06:24So yeah, that's six months, six months.
06:26All right.
06:27In our movie, it was not six months.
06:29No, it was.
06:30No way.
06:31It was, well, it's Father's Day to Christmas.
06:33Sorry.
06:34We just gave away the ending.
06:35Cut that part.
06:38It is a Christmas movie.
06:40Who would be better at hiding out at a Toys R Us?
06:51We both got this one.
06:53Yeah.
06:54Why is that?
06:55I'm pretty good at hide and seek in general in life.
06:58Manhunt.
06:59You can't catch me in the woods, boy.
07:01In a Toys R Us, I think I get pretty creative.
07:05Yeah.
07:06You were very comfy in there.
07:07I would just crawl inside one of the giant stuffed animals and just go to sleep.
07:12It's been six months and still no leaves on the whereabouts of the escaped convict known
07:17as the roof man.
07:18What is Derek's favorite note to give on set?
07:21Again, put more Buster Keaton.
07:40Exactly.
07:41If you put them together, we got there.
07:43Yeah.
07:44More Buster Keaton.
07:45More Buster Keaton.
07:46There we go.
07:47That's good.
07:48Either that, more Buster Keaton or more Jerry Lewis.
07:51Yeah.
07:52That's the right answer.
07:53Actually, I didn't see that much of that stuff in the movie.
07:58I would love-
07:59There's a lot of physical-
08:00There's a lot of physical stuff.
08:01I mean, there's-
08:02But we had to hit the ceiling, I guess.
08:04Yeah.
08:05You love a silent take as well.
08:06Definitely silent take.
08:07We took two walks, two long walks.
08:10Our first walk was about, I don't know, it was like four and a half hours or something
08:15like that, and we just walked and walked and walked.
08:18Our second one was probably six hours or something like that.
08:22And we talked about everything.
08:25You know, literally like everything that you could imagine.
08:29Around the movie, personally, we would go off on like tangents that had nothing to do with the movie.
08:34And that was very much what the movie was like.
08:36It was exploring everything that you possibly can dig in every single direction.
08:44I didn't really know what to expect about-
08:46Because I've seen his other movies and I talked to Bradley Cooper about like your style.
08:50He kind of prepped me a little bit for like the long takes and like really unorthodox things.
08:56He told me about the silent take.
08:57And so I had at least a little bit of knowledge.
09:00But again, like when you think it's done, you're halfway there.
09:04Like you're when you're like, we've done everything.
09:07I think we've done everything.
09:08I don't have any more ideas.
09:10We've only gotten halfway there.
09:12And because you were just a relentless digger.
09:15If you're making a film, there's no greater ally than than Channing for a filmmaker.
09:21When you're making a movie, you need someone to believe in your delusion as much as you do.
09:29And Channing was just always there.
09:31Always game.
09:32Because there's a great unknowing to making a movie.
09:35You have to find the discovery.
09:36And I think you were game.
09:37You were always game.
09:38Always game.
09:39The one thing I knew that we always agreed upon was that you don't even know when you have it.
09:43Of course.
09:44Like we could have got it on the first take.
09:47And-
09:48Sometimes we moved on.
09:49Sometimes we did.
09:50But I would say it was more for time's sake.
09:52It was like, yeah, we got an hour and a half to shoot this.
09:58To shoot all the angles.
10:01You like a lot of angles.
10:02Do I really?
10:03It's pretty simple.
10:04I've worked with a couple of directors that don't give any direction at all.
10:13And this was such a refreshing sort of just like, oh man, we just get to like explore this person.
10:19And it's all about telling like the story that is the essence of Jeff.
10:23And I think I would do this all over again a thousand times for you.
10:27Me too.
10:28How did Channing prepare to play Jeffrey?
10:31Yeah.
10:32Yeah.
10:33Yeah.
10:34Jeff is a really thin guy.
10:35Like he's not as big, I would say boned as me.
10:49I don't, I think he's tall, but he's just really wiry.
10:52He was so wiry and like, and really fit.
10:55And I had just done a role earlier that year that I got up to like 240.
11:00And, and then I had only planned to get down to like 185.
11:05And then it just, once I was already going, it's just the days of shooting.
11:10Just, it kept coming off and I got down to like 172.
11:13Our assistant director, Mariella, she was concerned.
11:15Yeah.
11:16She was just like, that's it.
11:17That's enough weight.
11:18She's like, get a mistake right now.
11:19Like, and I was like, I think you're right.
11:21I'm like, this is weird.
11:23And I don't know why it was a sort of an emptiness and like a sadness to it.
11:30I just see myself and I would just seem hollow.
11:33And the movie a lot for me was a lot of like loneliness and.
11:37Yearning.
11:38Yeah.
11:39Like a real meditation for that and wanting to be full and trying to like fill an empty vessel.
11:45That empty feeling sucks after a little while.
11:48I remember when we saw each other in the park on the six hour walk.
11:51Yeah.
11:52And you said, I was thinking about losing weight.
11:53What do you think?
11:54And, and your reasoning at that point was that Jeff was the roof man.
11:58Yeah.
11:59And he had to get into tight spaces.
12:00Yeah.
12:01And he has to live inside the walls of a Toys R Us.
12:04Yeah.
12:05It's harder to do that when you're bigger.
12:06So you, I was like, whatever you want to do.
12:08Which famous actor have you both worked with?
12:11Hmm.
12:12Let's see here.
12:13Oh yeah.
12:14Uh, yeah.
12:15Uh huh.
12:16You know this answer, man.
12:19Oh fuck.
12:20I would've never got it right though.
12:22This is so easy.
12:23This is so easy.
12:24I couldn't not cheat.
12:25This is so easy.
12:26I know.
12:27I panic when I think, when I have to think of names.
12:30Uh.
12:31Damn it.
12:32I cheated though.
12:33I did.
12:34I could not cheat.
12:35I was gonna-
12:36He was a big topic of our conversation on our watch.
12:38Yeah.
12:39He was our, he was our first thing we talked about.
12:41There's nothing not to love about that man.
12:43That's true.
12:44If I tried, I could not find one single thing that I would, I would want different or say
12:50that I would be like, man, that's a little concerning.
12:53Like he's just one of the best humans that I've ever met in my life.
12:57He's also one of the best actors that I've ever gotten to act with.
13:01He helped me so much in a way that I don't think I've worked with anybody that has like,
13:06was so giving in so many ways.
13:08And even giving me little hints on little breadcrumbs to follow on, even on my own character.
13:13Cause I like, I don't have an ego.
13:15I love any idea that I can get from anybody.
13:18It doesn't mean I have to take it.
13:19It just, I don't mind it.
13:20I didn't get classically trained in this.
13:22And I think there's so many people, especially like Ruff, that has a really sensitive soul
13:29that he could have never taken an acting class in his life and still probably give you the
13:34same advice on a way.
13:36He's just like, so just beautifully smart and sensitive.
13:40And I think that's rare.
13:41Heart and mind.
13:42Mark Ruffalo.
13:43Really, truly.
13:44Spirit.
13:45Soul.
13:46Spirit.
13:47Body.
13:48So beautiful.
13:49Luscious hair.
13:50God, his hair.
13:51He does have very good hair.
13:52He does have very good hair.
13:53Which of Channing's films is based on his real life work experience before he started
13:58acting?
13:59White House Pound.
14:00Yeah, there you go.
14:02She's the man.
14:05Foxcatcher.
14:06Yeah.
14:07I wish.
14:08Wait, wait.
14:09Wait, I should have, I should have wrote something funny.
14:10Should have wrote something funny, but I'm not.
14:11I had an idea.
14:12Yeah.
14:13Correct.
14:14Yeah.
14:15Yeah.
14:16Yeah.
14:17Yeah.
14:18Yeah.
14:19Yeah.
14:20That's actually totally true.
14:25That's more.
14:26Really?
14:27That one's more accurate to what really happened.
14:30Yeah.
14:31The first movie I saw of Channing's was Guide to Recognizing Your Saints.
14:34Obviously, I thought he was incredible in it.
14:36I offered him Blue Valentine after seeing that movie.
14:38He said no.
14:39He wasn't bitter about it.
14:40He's never going to let it go.
14:41I wasn't bitter about it.
14:42I loved him.
14:43Still loved him.
14:44I watched every movie he's ever made.
14:46I'm always.
14:47He was always been my favorite part of every movie he's been in.
14:50Yeah.
14:51I'm just.
14:53I feel like a lucky person.
14:56Love you though.
14:57Yeah.
14:58Love you too.
14:59Love you too.
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