Interview with Pete Doherty

The Star, Sheffield

3 months ago

The Star interviews Pete Doherty

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00:00So we're here with the Sheffield star and I'm here with my name's Peter Docherty

00:04and we got a star on you going to Berries a few weeks ago in Sheffield for

00:08that did you go for a pork sandwich? I did indeed oh my lord that place is amazing yeah

00:13it's lovely down there as well yeah I know pork and stuffing sandwich with all the crispy bits

00:19crispy fat yeah we played crooks working men's club yeah it was a belter yeah I mean that's

00:25that's like our pride in Sheffield Berries and I've got to know what you thought to

00:30what you rate out of ten no it was it was like there's nothing there's nothing it

00:34was just a tittle be a ten nine and a half ten in there you know friendly smiling

00:38welcome and you know all the girls came on came to the show you put on the guest

00:42list yeah fair exchange there's no robbery I got a lovely pork and stuffing batch

00:49how did you hear about it? I think at least two different people had told me when we

00:54came when we arrived we arrived quite early for that show in the morning setting up and

00:58we were all starving that's with the landlord Tim who his name was anyway he told us yeah if you want a bat

01:05yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean as well when you played crook social club it was actually

01:13tramwise weekend so I was kind of expecting you to turn up at tramwise and do a bit of a thing

01:18I'd love to nothing more I'd love to do than gone and seen pulp played our entire show

01:23you were in the same night right? yeah we were on stage at the same time yeah so uh alas um

01:31yeah I ain't seen pulp back since I was 17 I went to see him play yeah did you where did you see them?

01:35I saw them at the uh uh Birmingham I hate to say it because it was a bit of a bit of a strange sort of uh

01:42clinical space but it was the Birmingham NEC arena you know what I mean just after they first like

01:47got massive and yeah so far away I couldn't really see or hear them but slowly made my way down to the

01:53front and yeah yeah I think it was one of the first gigs I went to actually wow yeah I remember me and my

01:59dad driving my sister up to Sheffield and she saw I must have been 15 and we waiting in the car

02:05she went to see Oasis supported by pulp yeah at the Sheffield Sheffield arena yeah mental night yeah

02:13yeah imagine that so I've been like 94 or 95 or something yeah yeah wow what a throwback god

02:20I wish I was alive then I wish I was alive then I'm not even born then I'm 21 yeah I mean I think well

02:27actually today it's uh well the anniversary of your second album self self-titled album so what was it

02:34like because I know you and Carl you used to perform with the band or solo but you've never really

02:40performed just you guys together that often he doesn't really to be honest I hope he doesn't

02:44mind me saying this he doesn't enjoy it he's always yeah no he's a funny old frog carl man he's um he's

02:50just uh that's how we started out that was just me and him you know I mean in basements and

02:57bedsits playing acoustic guitars and and I don't know he just we just don't do it and he's up but

03:03now it seems he's coming around to it and he's like more trusted to me because what I tend to do

03:08is I tend to go off of tangents and I don't want to set this then we sort of feel more through it and

03:12he prefers to know no no exactly what's going on so but I think we've reached a point now where he's up

03:17for doing this more and and it makes sense because like it's nice to hear the songs broken down like that

03:22you can hear the beauty of the melodies and the lyrics a bit more clearly do you miss having

03:29Gary and John though no yeah of course yeah yeah of course but a show like this you know when you're

03:33not headlining and you know I mean we're doing it for the love of John yeah so we don't get a lot

03:40for it if we had Gary and John you know and we need the crew and everything yeah it's just not viable is

03:46it so you're going to stick around and watch reverend later yeah yeah of course it depends on the

03:50baby if she if she nods off we'll have to go back to that but yeah we'll see what happens

03:57and I've last time I spoke to you actually about Sheffield we spoke about the lead mill and now that

04:05things have really changed since then I mean this was early 2024 now we're in late 2025 and the lead

04:11mill is gone now I just wanted to get your opinion on that because I know you guys were very um outspoken

04:18and fond of it and it was somewhere that you've played it's one of those places that you know for

04:22our generation it was a place of it was a place of legend you know the places like lead mill and

04:27the cockpit that both have gone they were the legendary Yorkshire venues where everyone played

04:33you know through the 80s 90s and then right through to the strokes in 2000 so they're part of our

04:39part of our mythology and our folklore you know the places where you went and you moshed and then

04:43you know if your dreams came true you got on the stage and it's the first place we ever had a mosh pit as well

04:48really yeah because the album came out when we were in scandinavia when we came back to england that

04:52had been 2000 and autumn 2000 i don't want to say 2002 um it was the first time people actually knew

05:02the songs so they were they were bouncing jumping around and that's all we'd long for just to see a

05:06crowd bodies writhing and that's such a Yorkshire crowd thing to happen yeah but it was the first time

05:12we'd seen it and had it you know it was amazing the security didn't they got out the hoses if i

05:16meant correctly and kids started yeah yeah we all jumped in it was nuts it was mental yeah got the

05:22water hoses started spraying the crowd it's so weird how does it make you feel to see a grassroots

05:27venue like that that's so important and not just to music but the musical culture of the north and

05:32especially sheffield like going like that breaks you up but also it's so easy to be i mean i'm a

05:37particularly nostalgic and romantic person so i'll always attach things to mythology but in actual

05:43fact the people that were trying to run it it just couldn't make it viable you know the energy prices

05:47all spiked overnight and the license fee had gone up and it's just it's so expensive to run those small

05:53venues you know i mean unless you're getting big bands in every night and it's our graft you know so

06:00they're still there though a lot of those places you know sacred place like dublin castle

06:04and we've got to keep them going got to keep them alive what you guys did with the albion rooms as

06:08well um keeping that kind of thing alive it's a small venue it's a small grassroots thing now and

06:14it's on the circuit now that the albion rooms will say justine's which is the venue that carl's got in

06:18margate yeah young bands can just get up you know borrow our equipment get up and play and that's what

06:25that's what we longed for when we were starting out just to play for go and play and you know to meet

06:30your tribe to meet your people and places you know safe places you can go and have it up yeah

06:38and to conclude i have to ask you about the set today a little bit more the the set list was a

06:45little bit different as well from what you usually do is that uh influenced by being an acoustic show

06:51and what did it also mean to play to a crowd in sheffield that knew so many of those deep cuts today

06:57uh do you think so do you think they did i'm glad i did i did that was the point really just to

07:03the people around the front definitely yeah yeah yeah and i spoke to a few of them and i was because

07:09we didn't get a chance to sound check so i was happy that the guitars out front panning the guitars

07:14balance well together and uh and it sounded all right but now we wanted to do something special we

07:19did bang bang you're dead together which was almost impossible for me to even hear that song let

07:24alone sing it so yeah it was a bit of a emotional one that it's still to see

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