00:00If it is, you know, this guy goes and knowingly, you know, step on it, or, you know, knowingly, like, for days, put the flag upside down, that's one thing.
00:12But if they make a mistake, they apologize for it. Why are we making it such a big thing?
00:18Rakyat takut nak letak bendera. Takut. Maybe it could be a designer's fault. It could be the delivery guy's fault, you know.
00:26So, what approach should we take? Should be, like, educative or punishment?
00:33Because, look, now things like punishment is the main way that we are going. What is your opinion on that?
00:38You know, I think, I mean, you know, we obviously, as Muslims, we treat our Quran with reverence.
00:44Because, you know, it's the word of God. And you have a certain way to deal with it and all that.
00:51But I'll give you an example. If you accidentally, I mean, say,
00:56a printer, and it happens, a printer misprints a Quran,
01:00they immediately, I mean, they consciously realize it and they rectify it,
01:06they apologize for it. I mean, even sometimes they sell it and they recall, whatever,
01:09change with a reprinted proper Quran.
01:14It's not the same as someone who takes the Quran and burn it out of hatred for the religion.
01:20So, similarly, I mean, this obviously on the last, I mean, that's about the Kholibuk.
01:24If you're talking about the flag, I mean, to me, patriotism is not about waving flags alone.
01:30Correct.
01:31Right? I mean, there are various ways. I mean, if you're waving flags but you're corrupt,
01:34I don't think you're patriotic.
01:35Correct.
01:37If you're waving flags but you're racist, I don't think you're patriotic.
01:42But, okay, fine. It is a way. I mean, I do distribute flags in my area and all that
01:46just to create the feeling among the public, right?
01:49I mean, I'm being very frank, I think there was this sense of perception or whether real
01:55or not, people like to say, oh, non-Malays did not put up flags.
01:58I mean, or, you know, they're putting up flags less now than before.
02:02I mean, I don't measure this or check who puts up it.
02:05But that's what people whisper.
02:07And then when a non-Malays puts up it wrongly, then you create this fuss as if it's the end
02:16of the world.
02:18Again, if it is, you know, this guy goes and knowingly, you know, step on it or, you know,
02:26knowingly like for days put the flag upside down, that's one thing.
02:30But if they make a mistake, they apologize for it.
02:35Why are we making it such a big thing?
02:37Why are we expanding our energies?
02:40And you're correct.
02:41I'm, you know, because to be honest, right?
02:43I mean, I guess I subconsciously, I know if a flag is right or wrong.
02:49Not only you have to measure the stripes, you also have to measure the star.
02:52I mean, to count the star, to make sure it's the right number, right?
02:55But if, if, I mean, what if you don't, I mean, people can make an issue if they want
03:01to now.
03:03And I mean, some from AI, the mistake, some other people make mistake, it was never an
03:07issue.
03:08And rightly so, because if you realize that it was an unintended mistake, no intention,
03:14no, you know, not to insult or to, not to, you know, to send a message or anything,
03:21it was purely unintentional.
03:23You cannot equate that with someone who does it intentionally.
03:27So I think, you know, this is, anyway, you put it at a certain race and all that.
03:34And then you bring a rombongan all the way to a certain place and that is, that is unnecessary.
03:40And I think it's really unhealthy for the country.
03:44And this is 2025.
03:45And this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is,
03:50you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know,
03:52this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know,
03:54this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know, this is, you know,
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