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00:01Your dad called me a liar.
00:03That is my character, a liar.
00:05To my knowledge, my dad doesn't think Veronica's a liar.
00:08Unfortunately, it kind of seems like Veronica's gonna speak it into existence.
00:12Who else have they done this to?
00:14Olivia.
00:15In about a month, I'm gonna move to Montana.
00:19I have no idea what's out there.
00:21I still like a whole leap of faith, but also, like, I just gotta make this work, and I'm gonna do it.
00:27Lydia Joy Plath.
00:29Will you marry me?
00:31Please say no.
00:34Yes.
00:38So you guys are saving your first kiss for your wedding?
00:42Yeah.
00:43Because I just, I couldn't do that, and I don't know who could.
00:47I've never in my life met a straight man who voluntarily gives up the opportunity to be intimate with a woman.
00:58I mean, everything that you and Lydia have said is great and sounds amazing, but I gotta ask you.
01:18Yeah.
01:22Are you gay?
01:29No.
01:29You shoot me straight.
01:33I'm straight as an arrow.
01:35You promise.
01:36Absolutely.
01:38No offense.
01:38Not that I have anything wrong with any gay person.
01:41Same, yeah.
01:42Veronica's favorite people are gay.
01:43I have some gay friends.
01:44Like, they're some of the most fun people.
01:46No, for sure.
01:47But I would hate for someone who has, you know, other desires to be dating my sister.
01:52No, I get that.
01:54No, absolutely.
01:54Yeah.
01:55I don't mean to offend you.
01:57You're just very different from pretty much anybody that I've ever met.
02:03For Lydia's sake, we just want to get that off the table.
02:11Zach said he's not gay.
02:13Maybe I'm just completely wrong, and I'm totally fine with that, and I hope that I am wrong.
02:18I don't have a problem with gay people.
02:19I just don't think that if you are gay, you should marry a woman.
02:24I don't have any ill will harbored toward Zach.
02:27I mean, I've given him a hard time.
02:30But just to be fair, I mean, he kind of sprung on us very quickly.
02:36So, I mean, I just want to know that Zach is in for the right reasons, you know?
02:42Fair enough.
02:43Yeah.
02:43I would totally do the same if my sister came home with a guy, and he said, like, oh, yeah.
02:49Like, I'm proposing today.
02:51It's, like, totally fair that you guys are in protective mode.
02:55I appreciate it, and I'm, like, totally open to conversation or hanging out or anything.
03:00If you guys want to get to know me more.
03:04Ethan asked if I was gay, and I don't know.
03:08It doesn't affect me.
03:10I know who I am.
03:11And so that wasn't offensive, and it wasn't, you know, I grew up with two sisters.
03:17I'm going to have some feminine tendencies.
03:20But I think, yeah, I still am confident as a man.
03:25I do have a passion for her and a love for her that can be shown in those ways, but I'm
03:30deciding to hold those off until marriage.
03:33But Ethan and Micah definitely had a lot of personal questions, and I was willing to answer
03:38all of them because it's how they get to know me, and it's how they show their protection
03:42for their sister.
03:43And I wouldn't have it any other way.
03:45I want them to protect her as much as I want to protect her.
03:48Veronica and I leave tomorrow.
03:50We have a very hectic schedule.
03:54For sure.
03:54For the next two months or so.
03:56Well, hopefully we can get to Boca at some point.
03:59Yeah, you're welcome down there.
04:01Yeah, it'd be nice to see your house and everything.
04:03I do want to see your work ethic.
04:06It's great that he's inviting me to his home in Boca to help him out, but also he kind
04:12of is looking to see my work ethic.
04:15So I understand he's still testing me, but I'm okay with that, and it's good to just
04:21be invited to his home.
04:24I know I've been kind of cold to you.
04:29I want to like you.
04:31I want nothing better than to have the best relationship with you and everything works
04:35out.
04:35Thank you, guys.
04:36Yeah.
04:37I'm not there yet.
04:38I don't quite like you yet.
04:40Yeah.
04:42You're going to have to earn that.
04:48I mean, am I satisfied with Zach's answer?
04:51Honestly, no.
04:53I don't feel any better about the situation, but I do feel better that I did my part.
04:59I did what I can do.
05:01Yeah.
05:02Thank you guys for asking questions and feel free to...
05:05Relationships are a lot of work.
05:07Yeah.
05:08They are.
05:08Well, the day was a mixture of everything.
05:11I had the enormous high of becoming a fiance to the wonderful Lydia Plath, but also the
05:20enormous chaos of being bombarded by questions that some I expected and some didn't expect.
05:28It was also a lot more emotions to deal with than I expected, not only my own, but the
05:34mixture of dynamics between the whole family and friends.
05:37And so I'm just ready to shut off my brain and take some rest.
05:43All right.
05:44Well, thanks for facing the firing squad.
05:46For sure.
05:47See you around.
05:48Yeah.
05:48Yeah.
05:48Here you are.
06:08Zach left this morning.
06:10Ethan and Micah had quite the conversation with Zach.
06:12And the one thing that I don't understand is, correct me if I'm wrong, but they asked my
06:20fiance if he was gay.
06:25When Zach told me that they asked that, I was just speechless.
06:29I don't think I was mad at them.
06:30Just disappointed.
06:31It's almost sad in today's culture that saving our first kiss could be taken as maybe they
06:39don't want to be intimate.
06:40Like, and not as like, wow, they're really respectful.
06:44They're honoring.
06:45They're a genuine man with great character to honor and respect my sister.
06:51It's a beautiful thing.
06:54And I wish it could have been taken that way.
06:56Ethan saved sex from marriage, and I didn't think he was gay for that.
07:04Yeah.
07:06Yeah.
07:08Good voicey.
07:09Is there anything else you want to say about that?
07:11No.
07:11No.
07:26Veronica, you can do the dishes.
07:38I could if I wanted to, but they're not mine.
07:40Who does the dishes around here?
07:41Oh, not me.
07:43Yeah.
07:43Me and Ethan came here down to Boca to visit Mike and Veronica for a little bit.
07:48Ethan and Micah went over to the new house to do some work and get it ready, and me and
07:51Veronica are just hanging out here at the house.
07:54You don't have a kitchen at your new house right now, do you?
07:56No, we don't have a kitchen.
07:57But Micah and I, if we cook, we cook together.
08:00Like, if we want to eat, we'll figure it out together.
08:04I don't sit home and wait to cook a meal for a man.
08:07I worry that, like, Lydia is living to be somebody's wife.
08:12That's what she wants.
08:13Whatever.
08:14But that's losing yourself.
08:17Maybe.
08:18I don't know.
08:19That's your opinion.
08:20What's your opinion?
08:21Um, I don't know.
08:22To each their own.
08:23She just wants to get married.
08:25Yep.
08:25Lydia asked her to be the maid of honor.
08:27I'm extremely thankful that she did.
08:29It means a lot to me.
08:30Um, I may not agree with everything.
08:33You know, it might be a little bit fast, but, like, she's my sister.
08:36I'm not going to tell her no or try to stop her or anything.
08:40I hate being put in the middle.
08:43Zach doesn't know what he's getting into.
08:44He's been here for a short period of time.
08:46I mean, we're a big family.
08:47You're a different family?
08:48I get it.
08:48We're like, oh, there's a bunch of us, and it can be weird or intimidating or whatever,
08:53but, yeah.
08:53Not intimidating, but the family I originally thought I saw, I don't see them today.
09:02I was welcome originally.
09:03I think Olivia was welcome originally, and then they replace you, like, this weekend
09:08in Cairo.
09:10I walked in that room, and I felt not welcome, not wanted.
09:14I think, don't think this the wrong way, but I just don't think you're used to a large
09:17family, and I don't think you get that there's, like, I don't even talk to all my siblings.
09:21I don't talk to dad.
09:22I don't talk to them, but your sister lies about me.
09:25I make an effort to speak to everybody and be on good terms.
09:28And that's one thing I really appreciate about you, and I feel like some people are like that,
09:32some people aren't.
09:32We're not as good at communicating.
09:35I don't know.
09:36It's like, part of me wants to talk about it and work it out, but I feel like that's not really doable
09:40if we're not being rational.
09:44And the accountability, like, your dad, he said that he's never treated me any differently.
09:48I think that in our family, we're more thinkers, not feelers as much, so maybe we should be a little
09:55bit more sensitive, but I also think you let everything, you build up everything in your head
10:00and you exaggerate sometimes, or you interpret things the wrong way.
10:04There's certain things, and I'm like, I know what happened, I know what I've seen,
10:08and they're like, that never happened.
10:11I don't get why she's talking trash about my family.
10:15That just doesn't make sense.
10:18Dad's already counting on grandchildren.
10:24You can't stop the inevitable.
10:30There's one of those Braxton Hicks.
10:35I want to fight for this.
10:36You don't want to fight for this.
10:37You want to fight me.
10:38No, I want my family, and I want you.
10:41Veronica's over at the top, upset.
10:43It's hard when things blow up this much, and it's like, there's no solution for it.
10:48Good morning.
11:01Look who's here.
11:03How's everything going?
11:04We were just talking about you.
11:06We got a lot to get done in the next few weeks, right?
11:09Yeah.
11:10So, I have some big news.
11:13We've all just presumed, I guess, that I'm moving to Colorado.
11:17Oh, yeah.
11:17That's the last conversation we had going out to the proposal, right?
11:23Yeah.
11:24So, I'm actually staying, and Zach is moving here.
11:30No.
11:31Yeah.
11:31I fly out next week to go help him move here.
11:36So, girls, I'm staying.
11:38You're staying?
11:39Yay.
11:39Awesome.
11:40And the crowd goes wild.
11:41Yay.
11:43Yep, Zach is moving here, so.
11:45Yay.
11:48I'm really excited that Lydia's staying here.
11:50It's going to be so much more fun.
11:51We can see her so much more often.
11:53What a turn of a vent.
11:55Yeah, I know.
11:56I wasn't expecting either.
11:57What's changed?
11:58I mean, you guys are going to go out there.
11:59He was going to work.
12:01He has a job lined up in Tallahassee as a tennis coach for the city.
12:04Tennis has been his hobby his whole life.
12:08Yeah, he's got a passion for it, right?
12:09Mm-hmm.
12:10Seems like a good thing.
12:12Why Tallahassee?
12:14Yeah, we just took some time to prey on it,
12:18and we just really felt like Tallahassee was the place for now.
12:23And, you know what I think?
12:24It would be nice if they were in Tallahassee when the first child comes.
12:30It would be so nice just to be able to hop down.
12:35Oh, yeah.
12:36Right?
12:37And be a part of it.
12:39Dad's already counting on grandchildren.
12:41You can't stop the inevitable.
12:45It's going to happen.
12:47Maybe two years.
12:48Two years from now, we'll revisit, and she'll be like,
12:53Oh, I've got to sit down.
12:56Oh, there's one of those Braxton Hicks.
13:00All my children have been, like, going away.
13:06Mm-hmm.
13:06I was just putting you in that bucket of Lydia's going away also.
13:11I was getting used to that theme.
13:13Yeah.
13:13This is like a total reversal.
13:15Yeah.
13:16Life with a family of unusual size,
13:18you just get used to a lot of moving pieces and plans changing.
13:21Mariah is leaving for Montana.
13:25I thought Lydia was leaving, but now she's staying,
13:27and Zach and her are here.
13:30So that's the switcheroo.
13:32So he'll be here, like, soon.
13:34You guys are up in the air with a lot of things.
13:36There's a lot up in the air.
13:37So where's he going to end up temporarily?
13:40Does he want to stay here?
13:41Because he can if he wants.
13:42Yeah.
13:43I mean, there's definitely plenty of room in this house for Zach to crash.
13:46We'll make it work.
13:47Yeah.
13:47Really, the main things that we have to do is focus on the farm.
13:51Yeah.
13:52Do you know that I'm planning on using Ethan and Amber to help me with some things?
13:56I was just going to ask.
13:57When is Ethan coming into town, like, a week before the wedding?
14:01It's probably when you're out in Colorado.
14:03No.
14:05It should be afterwards so he can spend more time with Zach.
14:07I know.
14:08I know.
14:09But, you know, sometimes schedules don't work out.
14:12So if Zach stays here, I know Isaac and Zach have gotten to hang out a little bit,
14:18but not too much.
14:18So maybe that would give him more time to catch up.
14:21Because I know the brothers gave him a little bit of a hard time, which he took on.
14:27And actually, Ethan and I were talking the other day, and Ethan was like,
14:32I'm sorry for giving Zach such a hard time.
14:35Did he tell Zach that?
14:38No.
14:38He doesn't have Zach's number, but I told Zach, and he was like, well, that's nice.
14:42Well, he still needs to tell him, in my opinion.
14:44Hey, pay attention.
14:56Can you sit?
14:58Shake.
14:59Shake.
14:59Come on.
15:00Okay.
15:08Hello.
15:10How are you?
15:11Good to see you.
15:13Good to have you back.
15:14Hey, Amber.
15:15Hi.
15:16What's up?
15:17Nothing.
15:17Hi, babe.
15:20So what you guys been up to?
15:25Just getting ready.
15:29What happened?
15:29What?
15:30What happened?
15:30What?
15:32What's the matter?
15:34What are we going to do today?
15:36Like, were you with me and Isaac when we climbed up on top of the building
15:39and was throwing cheese on the cars?
15:41No.
15:41I think you were.
15:43I swear you were.
15:43I wasn't there.
15:44I would never do anything like that.
15:46No, it doesn't hurt anything.
15:48And we only hit, like, four cars.
15:50No, it was, like, two.
15:52Then Carol said, I'm dead.
15:52But first you weren't there.
15:54Now you were there, but then it was four, but then it was two, but then...
15:57Yeah, I incriminated myself.
15:59Yeah, I was really trying to...
15:59You're in trouble, Micah.
16:01Yes.
16:01She can't trust you anymore.
16:02You're a liar.
16:06No, I've never called him a liar.
16:08I said you have lied.
16:10But a liar is a character.
16:13A thief is a character stealing something.
16:15I'm sorry, Veronica.
16:15I didn't bring that up.
16:17Well, I'm just telling you.
16:18Setting the record straight.
16:19Every interaction I've seen with Veronica and Amber has been, like, just so happy and fun,
16:26and, like, I don't really know where this came from.
16:29So what's...
16:30What's the matter?
16:32It's...
16:33You know, and Amber didn't get along.
16:34No, I'm just getting gaslit of everybody, so I'm just, like, gonna...
16:37How are you getting gaslit?
16:39We're talking about stuff with Dad and Mariah?
16:41No, just in general, but yeah.
16:42It's, like, the basis of it.
16:43Because it's many people gaslighting against one.
16:50But blame me for being emotionally intelligent.
16:54Or, like, the document evidence.
16:55What has to happen for everything to...
16:57Well, they have to actually do something.
16:58...go away and start over with a clean slate, because...
17:02I don't think there will be ever a clean slate.
17:05But your dad chose not to apologize.
17:08He said to Micah that he's never treated me differently.
17:10Maybe that's what he thinks.
17:11I clearly look at the way my family...
17:17What they do differently than you do.
17:18I perceive that they do things sincerely.
17:21They may flip-flop a couple times, and they may not apologize.
17:24But the flip-flop, they blame you on me.
17:30I just have to say, I don't think this is making anything any better.
17:34I'll just keep speaking up on it to them, about it, until it's resolved.
17:41I've been trying to take Veronica's side for forever, and I still am.
17:47It was getting damn hard.
17:53We all put a marshmallow in together, and then you just say, Chubby Bunny.
17:57Chubby Bunny.
17:58Chubby Bunny.
17:59You're eating it!
18:00Don't eat him!
18:01Violator!
18:05Bleh!
18:07My family doesn't have anything to do with mine and your relationship.
18:11We want everyone.
18:12Oh my gosh, they're not doing anything.
18:14They're just lovely.
18:16Come on!
18:17We all put a marshmallow in together.
18:32Okay.
18:33Right?
18:33And then you just say, Chubby Bunny.
18:35Okay.
18:35And you just keep doing that.
18:37And you can't laugh, Mariah.
18:39Well, then you need to go in and over.
18:42Because if she makes me laugh, I'm going to throw them out of my mouth.
18:45Okay, don't make her laugh.
18:46Okay.
18:47I am leaving for Montana in a couple weeks, and Sydney is over.
18:53She is just coming to see me before I leave, so.
18:55All right.
18:57Chubby Bunny.
18:58Chubby Bunny.
18:59Oh, you have to put it in.
19:01You can come up with your own tactic.
19:03Chubby Bunny.
19:05Stick it in your cheek.
19:06Don't chew it, though.
19:07Don't chew it.
19:07Why are you having it in the middle of your mouth?
19:09Just put it over to yourself.
19:11Do your best.
19:12Chipmunk impersonation.
19:13You're a bunny.
19:14You can be Chip.
19:15She can be Dale.
19:16I am.
19:18Growing up, we didn't keep any sugar or anything like junk food or unhealthy stuff in our pantry.
19:24And I don't know.
19:25If 16-year-old Mariah looked into the future and saw us now stuffing our faces full of marshmallows,
19:32I probably would have been speechless.
19:34Not at the marshmallows, but at the fact that my dad is a 50-year-old jacked guy.
19:40No, I'm not kidding.
19:44Okay.
19:45Okay.
19:46Chubby Bunny.
19:47Chubby Bunny.
19:49Come on.
19:50All right, now tell me.
19:51Chubby Bunny.
19:52Okay.
19:53We're going to be laughing at your pronunciation first.
19:57Ready?
19:57Number three.
19:59Ready?
19:59Okay, here we go.
20:02Chubby Bunny.
20:03Chubby Bunny.
20:04I'm excited.
20:07Oh, Mariah's got an accent at like three.
20:12What's the second word?
20:14Okay.
20:15All right.
20:16Mariah had approached me with, what do you think about me visiting Montana sometime?
20:21She began to talk about that a while back, but that's morphed into like, she's going to Montana.
20:28It's way too far away from me.
20:30I wish she wasn't going in some respects, because I won't be able to just pop over and see her
20:35or drive down one evening and catch up and spend a weekend with her.
20:40Congratulations.
20:41Round four.
20:42All right, round four, go.
20:44Ready?
20:45Here we go.
20:46Chubby Bunny.
20:47Chubby Bunny.
20:48I don't know.
20:49She's got the smallest mouth.
20:55No, no.
20:56Okay.
20:56No.
20:57Okay, let's go.
20:59You're eating it.
21:00Don't eat them.
21:01You can't eat them.
21:03Uh, uh, violator.
21:05Say it.
21:06Not good.
21:07Say it.
21:08I've never been to Montana before, but I'm definitely looking for like a difficult challenge moving
21:13to Montana, something to overcome and conquer, and just kind of prove to myself that I can
21:21do hard things, and maybe if I get bigger problems, I'll stop worrying about the little
21:25ones.
21:27Okay.
21:27I'm sorry.
21:37I'm sorry.
21:38I can't talk about this.
21:39It was so gross.
21:42Oh, my God.
21:44Oh, my God.
21:53Where did Mariah go?
21:54She cheated.
21:56I put eight marshmallows in my mouth, and Barry dry heaved the marshmallows up, and Mariah
22:03spit them in the flower bed, so I was the clear-cut winner.
22:09I'm throwing these away.
22:11These are really nasty.
22:12This is like a South Georgia snowball.
22:15Stop!
22:20I could do it twice again.
22:21His?
22:22No, no, no, no.
22:23Oh, his is hard.
22:24Stop it.
22:25Stop it.
22:26I just hope in Montana it's like a time for her to regroup and clear her head, because she's
22:32been through a lot over the past couple months.
22:42Veronica, how did my family become your enemy so fast?
22:49They made me their enemy.
22:51I understand you're really hurt, and I want nothing more than to try to fix this.
22:56You don't want to fix it.
22:57You don't want to support me.
22:57I want nothing more than for everyone to be on the same thing.
22:59You sit back there.
23:00You want it to be perfect, because you guys don't have those feelings.
23:04You guys don't feel anything.
23:05Yes, we do.
23:06No, you don't.
23:07After the incident with Amber in the kitchen, Veronica and I go outside to kind of continue
23:13and hopefully resolve some of this.
23:16Veronica's over the top, upset.
23:18It's hard when things blow up this much, and it's like there's no solution for it.
23:25Almost.
23:27You gotta get it.
23:28I don't know you can.
23:29My knee's not flat.
23:30Yeah, look.
23:31I can sit on it.
23:32I can land.
23:37I did it, I did it, I did it, I did it.
23:43Wow.
23:44That's pretty cool.
23:47I thought that I understood Veronica's beef, and it seemed kind of simple and straightforward,
23:53but it feels like it's growing more and more complex every day, and more and more people
23:58are being added to that list, probably myself included at this point.
24:03It just made me question the rationale for everything else that she has said about my family.
24:09I feel bad for Mika.
24:11Yeah, I do feel bad for Mika.
24:12He's stuck in the middle.
24:14He's gonna walk a line that he should not have to walk.
24:17That's trouble.
24:19I, Veronica, we have, I have been talking to you and trying to understand, trying to resolve
24:23this for a long time.
24:23You're not trying to understand.
24:24You're being defensive.
24:25I guess we'll go see what they're up to.
24:30You have a problem with one thing, on to the next, on to the next.
24:34Correct.
24:35Because none of them get resolved.
24:37This has been brewing inside for months.
24:40I had to smile and pretend it's all okay at the proposal where I'm not wanted, don't want
24:47to be there.
24:47I felt attacked, and I'm supposed to sit there, smile, and be pretty, and be like, oh, nothing's
24:51wrong.
24:52No, that's not true.
24:53That's not the reality of things.
24:55That's not my life.
24:57And I'm tired of shrinking and minimizing myself for people that do not value who I am as a
25:05person.
25:08I don't know.
25:10Is everything that ever came out of your mouth 100% factual?
25:14You're welcome to do whatever you want.
25:15I want to fight for this.
25:17You don't want to fight for this.
25:18You want to fight me.
25:19No, I want my family, and I want you.
25:21I don't think the sky's blue today.
25:23I think it's...
25:24No, it's definitely blue.
25:25I think it's yellow.
25:26That's blue.
25:27You're not going to blind me back to me?
25:29Not about something that's clearly wrong.
25:31Oh, like you're cheating?
25:34Tread lightly.
25:35Veronica.
25:36Tread lightly.
25:37Veronica, it's good stuff.
25:38If you guys could step out, that would be great.
25:40Okay, we're just going to see if how you guys are doing.
25:42I didn't know you guys were here.
25:44Veronica, I don't want...
25:45Okay, we'll do when she's sleeping.
25:46This is a conversation a child shouldn't be involved in.
25:48Okay.
25:50All right, we'll step out.
25:51We'll be back later.
25:52Okay.
25:56All right, let's go for a walk.
25:59Oh, God.
26:00No one talk to people like that.
26:03My family doesn't have anything to do with mine and your relationship.
26:07We want everyone...
26:08Oh, my gosh.
26:08They're not doing anything.
26:10They're just lovely.
26:10Come on.
26:13Your mom wanted me to put you on the title of the house.
26:15We're not married.
26:16I'm not a class.
26:17What is what my mom wants to affect me and you?
26:20Your family wants to use me.
26:23You guys all call me a liar and I'm making up.
26:27Not you lied or you're exaggerating that.
26:31It's a character mark.
26:33I don't think my family's trying to mark your character at all.
26:35I don't really know how to take all this because it's so out of the blue,
26:38but I think I might need an apology.
26:41A written apology.
26:41Or I can move on.
26:42A written apology and in person.
26:46I'm trying to talk to you and understand and work it through.
26:49I'm speaking in English.
26:51Can I go for a walk?
26:52Yeah, let's go for a walk.
26:55Why do you call us emotionally unintelligent?
26:56Because we don't see things the way you see them?
26:58You're not emotionally intelligent.
27:00You're talking so far down to me.
27:02I know.
27:03I need to get on your level.
27:06So you guys understand me.
27:07Why do you look at me like I am so far below you?
27:10Emotionally intelligent, you are.
27:13I've been telling you for months how I feel, but you don't listen.
27:16And I've been trying to help fix things.
27:19Talking to my family.
27:20And what have they done?
27:22Mariah wrote you a letter.
27:24Oh my gosh, this letter.
27:25You think it would be the Holy Bible or the Ten Commandments of 2024?
27:30No, I think it was an attempt.
27:31You know it wasn't a good letter.
27:32Yes or no?
27:33I thought it was.
27:34Is it a good apology?
27:34Yes or no?
27:36Veronica?
27:36Yes or no?
27:37Then yes, I think it was a good apology.
27:40We're a family who loves each other.
27:43We have problems.
27:44Yes, you love each other more than anybody else.
27:47Well, of course we do.
27:48We're family.
27:48We were the only friends.
27:49Mariah didn't lie about Ethan's wife and make their relationship harder?
27:52She did.
27:53I think everyone knows that.
27:54Look what's happening.
27:57History repeats itself.
27:58I don't think you and Olivia are exactly alike.
28:01We're not, but we're getting the same treatment.
28:05To be honest with you, I'm going to tell you something.
28:07I've been talking to her for months.
28:08I know everything.
28:15I've been talking to her for months.
28:17I know everything.
28:18Everybody told me the bad guy was Olivia.
28:22She's the only one that's looked out for me.
28:23Veronica just told me that she's been in contact with Olivia for months now.
28:30To not tell me isn't good for us.
28:33Like if she respected me or she respected my opinions,
28:37then she would have at least communicated, got my input on talking to someone who is no longer in my family,
28:44who doesn't really like my family, put it that way.
28:47I never knew Olivia was another issue we had in between us.
28:51No, it was actually finding out the truth was the issue.
28:55And finding out that two very different strong women have been accused, blamed, gaslit by the same group.
29:05And they led us to believe that we were the problem.
29:08I think you are reading way too far into this.
29:12I have wanted nothing but to have your back.
29:14I just want to be able to see my family.
29:15Then why don't you do it?
29:16I told you I will.
29:19Grow a pair.
29:21I think this is the most I've been yelled at and like talked down to, talked over, talked to every which way in my whole life.
29:30We've had fights before.
29:32We've been through a lot.
29:34But as far as this level of steam that she's blowing is new.
29:41It's hard to stay calm.
29:42It's hard to not walk away.
29:43It's just tough.
29:43But, I don't know, I feel like she wants me to get really mad at her as well.
29:48I don't want to do that.
29:50I want nothing more than to fix this.
29:52At the end of it.
29:54I just wish you cared half as much as I did.
29:56I want a man to stick up for me.
29:58I shouldn't have to tell you how to treat me.
30:00I shouldn't have to tell you how to love me.
30:02You should just do it.
30:03I'm just, I'm trying to understand why, like, are we working through this or creating more problems?
30:16I can't keep doing this, so.
30:20I'm going to go over to the other house and just, and just try and find myself again.
30:29Okay.
30:30I've been pulling marshmallow out of my hair.
30:52I had so much marshmallow in my hair.
30:54Oh, yeah.
30:55It was terrible.
30:56Imagine.
30:56Me, Mariah, and Barry are going out tonight to toast Mariah moving to Montana and leaving us.
31:05Hey.
31:06Hi.
31:06Hi.
31:07I think I'll get a pino grisio.
31:11I think I'm going to do that tropical sunrise.
31:14Just some hard cider.
31:16Gotcha.
31:19Wow.
31:20So this is the first time I think that I have ordered an alcoholic drink in front of Mariah.
31:27There was a time where I wasn't drinking at all.
31:30You know, I kind of had that posture for a number of years.
31:32I just wanted to set a good example for the children.
31:35And now, you know, a lot of the children are grown up and I'm showing them I can just, you know, have one here and there.
31:42And it's just all in a social setting that's fun.
31:46How's your drink?
31:47You're drinking it very fast.
31:50Bad day.
31:52Sorry.
31:53Those marshmallows were real.
31:54That's how I talk to people at bars.
31:55They're drinking.
31:56I'm like, I mean, bad day.
31:57Marshmallow battle was real.
32:00Now that a lot of the children are no longer minors, I've become much more flexible.
32:05So I'm enjoying where I'm at now and more at ease with things.
32:09So do you like seltzers?
32:11Are you a wine?
32:12It's fine.
32:12What are we doing these days?
32:14I'll have one of these once in a while, but just one usually.
32:18This is the first time that I've gone out to a bar and had a drink with my dad.
32:22That's for sure.
32:23He's just stepping out of his shell a little bit.
32:26I definitely want him to, like, let loose.
32:29Because that's something my dad and I both struggle with.
32:31We have a really hard time, like, just letting loose and having fun.
32:35Has she told you about Lydia and Zach much?
32:39I know they got engaged.
32:40They just got engaged.
32:42Are you excited?
32:42Yeah.
32:43We're all excited for them.
32:44It's good stuff.
32:45So we get Lydia engaged, but what are you going to do when you're in Montana?
32:51Let's talk about, you're getting a lumberjack.
32:53Mm-mm.
32:54Oh, you don't want a lumberjack?
32:56Not anymore.
32:57She'll be around.
32:58See, Mariah needs time.
32:59Fifteen years down the road?
33:01We'll get a lumberjack?
33:03No lumberjack.
33:03Maybe a sailor.
33:05No sailors.
33:05I think a sailor would be a little better than a lumberjack.
33:08I see you with a lumberjack in the long run.
33:12Someone who can live off of the land.
33:16That's your dance.
33:18That's your style.
33:19Me?
33:19I can live off the land.
33:20Yeah, so you're going to be a lumber woman.
33:22I'm going to end up with me.
33:22And then you're going to be a lumber, find a lumberjack.
33:25Man.
33:26Well, I mean, we covered my love life, I feel like.
33:31And we know where I'm at with that, which is absolutely nowhere.
33:35So now we're flipping it to you.
33:37See, I would like, I mean, I have thought on it a little bit.
33:40Right?
33:41I have thought on it a little bit.
33:41Oh, wait.
33:42He's thought about it.
33:42He's thought about it.
33:43You know.
33:43We're getting deep.
33:44We're getting deep.
33:45No, we're not getting deep.
33:46It's just one aspect, right?
33:47I need, you know, humor.
33:52I want someone who wants to have fun.
33:55You know, traveling, exploring new places.
33:59I like somebody who likes to be physically active, right?
34:04That's a big priority for me, right?
34:05Especially going into those years up ahead that they call the golden years.
34:09And I'm kind of serious at times.
34:12And, you know, as I age, I just want to laugh more.
34:16I want to laugh more.
34:18Are you having fun with us?
34:20Well, you guys are a wonderful, fun time.
34:23Oh, we know.
34:24I know.
34:25You know, how much do I think about what would it be like to go on dates and get to meet somebody?
34:30I maybe commit 10% of my time to thinking like that.
34:33I just, I'm not there yet.
34:36That'll happen at some point, but it's still future, like months away.
34:41Kim is not affecting why I'm not dating.
34:44There's just so many other things, right?
34:47The girls being a big one.
34:49Just focusing on them.
34:51And then just enjoying being single and the flexibility that it has brought into my life.
34:57Just do what I want to do.
35:00Well, this is our first drink together.
35:02We haven't even cheersed to the best dog ever and the best friend ever.
35:06Oh.
35:08You're very sweet.
35:10Oh, and one more toast.
35:11Cheers to Montana.
35:12May Mariah not get frostbite.
35:15His logic, too.
35:17May the Lord protect his ears.
35:22Veronica calls me a spineless worm and all this stuff sometimes.
35:25I wanted to let you know that, um, she did reach out to Olivia.
35:30Do you need more pickets?
35:53Yeah, I need some more pickets if you don't join.
35:55Okay.
35:55Yep.
35:57So I'm at one of my job sites.
35:58I got this fence I'm putting up for, uh, friend of a friend.
36:03Ethan's in town.
36:04Amber's in town.
36:05And I feel kind of bad because, you know, I brought him to town.
36:08I want Ethan and Amber to have a good time.
36:10But instead, Veronica and I got in a fight.
36:12I don't know what to say.
36:13I don't know what to do.
36:14I don't know what to even think at this point.
36:17I don't know how to make it better.
36:19Do you want to dig?
36:19Yeah.
36:23We're out of roots.
36:24Oh, that's good.
36:25So it should be smooth sailing from now on.
36:27There you go.
36:30After Veronica and Micah fought for a while, there was no real resolve that I saw.
36:35So me and Amber just got her stuff and we went and got a hotel room.
36:39I feel kind of bad that you guys are down here and all this kind of came out of nowhere.
36:44Oh, it's okay.
36:45I don't understand it.
36:47But this is what it is.
36:50I got up, like, before the sun came up, you know, told Veronica I loved her this morning,
36:55kissed her goodbye.
36:56She was still sleeping.
36:57A couple hours later, I called Veronica and was like, hey, what's the plan for today?
37:02And she just keeps going at it.
37:05She really, really chewed me out.
37:06So I know she's hurting.
37:07I want to be there for her and I want things to work out.
37:09But things are looking bleak.
37:12It's hard.
37:12I don't know what to do.
37:14I don't know.
37:15I feel like I'm so lost.
37:17I don't know what to do.
37:17I love Veronica and I want nothing more than to make things work.
37:20I see a future with her.
37:21But when we get in a fight, it just becomes, it's hard to talk to her.
37:26I remember when Olivia was in the exact same spot Veronica's in and look at Ethan and Olivia
37:30now.
37:31I don't know what can be done.
37:34I'm 100% caught between my family and my girlfriend.
37:38I was trying not to let this happen.
37:40Every time there was a little fight, I was, like, talking to Mariah, trying to call my
37:44dad, trying to get everyone together.
37:45I had high hopes that when Veronica went up to Georgia with me last, that things would
37:50kind of get resolved.
37:52But what I've come to realize is that when you form an opinion in your brain and you dwell
37:57on it, especially for how many months now, it's hardwired at that point.
38:02Amber, are you okay?
38:03You're good?
38:04Yep.
38:05You sure?
38:05Yes, I'm positive.
38:07Just confused a little.
38:09Veronica calls me a spineless worm and all this stuff sometimes for not doing exactly
38:15what she wants when she wants it.
38:19I guess so.
38:21I wanted to let you know that she did reach out to Olivia.
38:30Because she thinks what the family's done to her and they did to Olivia, they have common
38:36ground on and they're in identical shoes.
38:41And I think in talking to Olivia now, that makes her not like my family even more.
38:47I'm like, why didn't you tell me all this first off?
38:49Why is Olivia coming back in the picture?
38:53I didn't want that because I know that's your past.
38:57That's you.
38:57I do not want to meddle in that.
39:00That is not right.
39:01I was completely shocked.
39:03Veronica talking to Olivia does make me angry, makes me frustrated.
39:06That kind of seals the deal with me for Veronica because she had no intention of telling me
39:10she wasn't going to.
39:12Veronica's trying to look for validation in someone else that she feels like has also
39:17been wronged by my family or has issues with my family.
39:21So the only thing Veronica's doing is trying to justify her own actions instead of trying
39:27to make things right with my family.
39:29I don't know what it is.
39:30I mean, is our family that messed up?
39:35Do we really make people feel that way?
39:37No.
39:39Tegan, she gets along just fine.
39:43Kaylin, she gets along just fine.
39:45It depends on the people.
39:47She always kind of threatens we should just, we're done.
39:49Anytime there's an argument and she doesn't think I'm doing stuff, she always says, we're done.
39:54Every fight, she's like, just leave.
39:57Well, it's not good, Micah.
39:58I don't want to chicken out.
39:59I feel like I owe her everything and I love her.
40:04It's tough because I don't want to, I hate to say meddle in their relationship, but at
40:10the same time, it's like, I don't know, buddy.
40:13There's a lot of red flags here.
40:14But she actually does a lot of what she accuses other people of doing.
40:20And I think that's why she's so demanding over someone to back her when she's right
40:24and wrong, because she knows she's wrong a lot, but she doesn't want to look a fool.
40:29Well, I've been wanting you guys to work out for the longest time, but I think you've given
40:33it a good shot.
40:35I had no idea this is what I was walking into when I came down here.
40:39I feel bad.
40:41I feel really bad for you because I'm leaving tomorrow.
40:43I don't have to stick around for this drama.
40:45Well, I mean, it always gets better when my family's not around.
40:49My family's the problem.
40:52To her.
40:54Ethan has a lot of great insight.
40:57He went through, as he puts it, hell.
41:01And I don't want to do that.
41:03I don't want to put Veronica through that either.
41:05I want Veronica to be with someone who loves her the way that she needs to be loved.
41:12And if I can't do that, then maybe we're not for each other.
41:19Whatever happens, we'll be here for you.
41:21We've got a lot of dresses to try on already.
41:31Oh my god.
41:32I mean, I can see myself getting married someday.
41:34Of course, I'm not in a rush.
41:36Like some people.
41:41Let's go.
41:42I got some drip going on.
41:45Oh, it's dripping.
41:47I feel like Barry wants to be the fun, approving dad.
41:52Oh, boy.
41:53He doesn't want to be the mean dad that's asking hard questions.
41:56Bring on the grandchildren.
42:00Do you guys want to see Tegan?
42:02What?
42:02Why am I naked?
42:05Because I like it that way.
42:07I don't think it's normal to look up your brother's girlfriend's naked photos.
42:11He'll end up in bed with her.
42:12You're not seeing her ever again.
42:14Ever.
42:15What?
42:17I'm not sitting there.
42:18Sitting where?
42:19With Ethan Tegan.
42:21Veronica's become quite a little demon.
42:23I am really mad because Veronica lied.
42:26I despise her with the fury of a thousand suns.
42:30We all feel pressured into having to accept somebody that we don't know.
42:36Everything is a mess.
42:37Mom's uncomfortable.
42:38Ethan's uncomfortable.
42:39Because we don't have time to get to know him.
42:42A lot of pent-up emotions and stuff that hasn't been expressed.
42:47The wedding was very peaceful.
42:49I didn't feel like there was any drama.
42:52So I got a couple stitches last night.
42:54Everything has all come to a head.
42:56Why are you here?
42:57Because I'm here for Micah and Linda.
42:59You have a problem with everyone.
43:01You have attacked every one of us.
43:03Every single person here.
43:03Amber, Kaylin, Isaac, my mom, Ethan, Tegan.
43:07I have yelled at me.
43:07Even people that are not here.
43:10Either I strictly choose her over my family.
43:13Or I just cut ties.
43:17I think we need to leave.
43:18I was 100% on your side until this morning when I found out you were calling me names behind my back.
43:25Let's just say if they keep with me, more bombs dropped.
43:29Don't know who you're messing with.
43:31Don't know who you're messing with.
43:31Don't know who you're messing with.
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