Florida Panthers Mt. Rushmore Posted By Bleacher Report | Did They Get It Right? - video Dailymotion

WQAM-AM / AM 560 Sports WQAM

Bleacher Report releases a Mount Rushmore of NHL Franchises... Debate breaks out over which Florida Panther should be on the list.

Transcript

00:00Bleacher Report is doing Mount Rushmore of NHL franchises.

00:03And yesterday, they revealed their Panthers Mount Rushmore.

00:08And they put on the Mount Rushmore Eckblad.

00:13Yeah.

00:15Barky.

00:16Yeah.

00:17Roberto Luongo.

00:18Yeah.

00:19And Jonathan Huberdo.

00:21Not none of the brothers?

00:25The Bure brothers?

00:27No Bure brothers.

00:31No Bure brothers.

00:32I have a couple questions here.

00:34Sure.

00:34Though Jonathan Huberdo is very high on a lot of statistics.

00:38On all the all-time lists.

00:40He didn't win a chip.

00:41He didn't win a chip.

00:43He didn't win a chip.

00:44And in fact, is...

00:46Was he on the team?

00:46He was on the team when they won the President's Cup, though.

00:48He was on the team that won the President's Trophy.

00:51And then he was flipped for Matthew Kachuk.

00:52And then they went to three straight Stanley Cups.

00:55Okay.

00:56So, wait.

00:57So, that doesn't help his cause?

01:01No.

01:01Because it almost seems like Matthew Kachuk should be on there.

01:04Well...

01:05If you...

01:08If you trade...

01:10Wait.

01:11This is bro science.

01:13We're going to bro science this.

01:14Right.

01:15If I trade for a guy that does the same things you do, and then we all of a sudden go on a run

01:21that's unprecedented in our organization, how can you be above him?

01:27That's what I'm saying.

01:28And I feel like, from my standpoint...

01:31They just looked at stats.

01:32I would say, if you wanted to just go with, hey, you want longevity on there.

01:38Okay, I understand why you would want Huberto there, but you have Barkov, who's now past

01:41him and everything.

01:43Barkov is there.

01:44Ekblad totally cool with.

01:46Here's the other thing.

01:48Here's the other thing.

01:52Roberto Lamongo can do no wrong.

01:54I'm glad you're going to bring it up, not me.

01:55Hey, he can do no wrong.

01:59None.

02:00He is...

02:01He is a staple of this organization.

02:08He is.

02:11However!

02:14Are we just going to dismiss Bob?

02:18Look.

02:20I'm just...

02:21He had a rough start.

02:22I'm going to give you that.

02:23Of course.

02:24Of course.

02:24But...

02:26I could watch Bob highlights in games that he saved with ridiculous saves.

02:40When I think of Roberto Lamongo, I think of like a UD type guy.

02:47Like a guy who was very productive and a staple of the organization.

02:53Right.

02:54So, I don't know.

02:56Like...

02:56I mean, he's the first guy.

02:57Look.

02:57Roberto Lamongo is the first guy to get his jersey retired.

03:00I don't know.

03:01I don't know.

03:02But I don't know if I'm offending Roberto Lamongo by saying this because my intent is not to

03:08do that.

03:09My intent is not to offend Roberto Lamongo either.

03:11Are we getting caught up in recency bias?

03:13Doesn't everybody who's part of...

03:15If you are those three guys in particular, okay?

03:18Because the fourth one...

03:19I mean, like, look.

03:20We could put Kachuk there, but you could put Rhino.

03:23You could put...

03:23Like, if you're part of a team that's gone to three straight cups...

03:30Yeah.

03:30For the first time in franchise history and won two of them, is everybody else outside

03:36the velvet rope?

03:37We got a lot of 72 Dolphins around the stadium.

03:40Right.

03:42I don't know.

03:43I don't know how to say it.

03:45I have less of a problem with Bobby Liu.

03:47I have less of a problem with Bobby Liu.

03:48He's still part of the organization.

03:50I feel like having Huberto up there is weird.

03:51I don't want to offend anybody.

03:53I do not...

03:54Me either.

03:55...want to offend anybody because they're all great players.

03:59Look, in my personal Panthers Mount Rushmore...

04:01Oh, you're definitely...

04:02Sergey Bobrovsky's up there four times.

04:04Okay.

04:05Well, that's because you...

04:05Listen.

04:07You've been in on Bob since the beginning.

04:09And I can understand that.

04:13That's why I brought it up.

04:16Because if you bring it up, you have bias towards Bob.

04:20Right.

04:21I'm bringing it up because when we talk about the history of the Panthers,

04:27how we talk about Bob and the run that these guys just went on is going to be different

04:33than how we talk about the staple and one of the core guys of the organization

04:38than Roberto Luongo.

04:40Even if you were to go...

04:41You understand what I'm saying?

04:42Could you put...

04:43Well, what's the...

04:44Is there...

04:44Do we have to replace goalie?

04:46Like, could we have both of them up there?

04:48Would that be the appropriate Mount Rushmore?

04:50Would it be Bobby Liu, Bob...

04:51You only have four guys.

04:53Well, I'm taking Huberto off.

04:55Okay.

04:56Yeah.

04:56I'm taking Huberto off.

04:57If you're going to put Huberto, you got to put Kachuk.

04:59You got to...

05:00No, I'm not putting Huberto up there.

05:01I feel like Huberto is...

05:02So you go Bob.

05:03Yeah.

05:03Okay.

05:04Can I go Bobby Liu?

05:06Can I go Bob?

05:07Can I go Ekblad?

05:08Can I go Barky?

05:10Because I feel like with Kachuk...

05:12Well, Kachuk...

05:13But here's what I would say.

05:15And here's where it gets interesting.

05:18And here's where this whole story takes a turn.

05:25Nothing happened before Kachuk got here.

05:29That's true.

05:30And so when you say, if you're even talking about a Mount Rushmore of the Florida Panthers,

05:39we didn't go on this run until Kachuk got here.

05:43It's a good point.

05:44How do you view...

05:46Like the one...

05:47Like the...

05:49So when we talk about the heat, what do we say?

05:53The run we went on when LeBron got here means that he has a place in heat pantheon forever.

06:04Forever.

06:05Yes.

06:06Of course.

06:07Hunter says Luongo deserves to be there just for the drum performance alone.

06:12But so you understand what I'm saying?

06:14Like for different reasons, they should be there.

06:19And Luongo has a place.

06:23You don't mention Panthers hockey without mentioning Roberto Luongo.

06:29Agreed.

06:29You don't.

06:30So he almost has a special place there.

06:35But when the guy that you have on Mount Rushmore got traded and then your team got really good,

06:44I don't know how...

06:47You either got to put the guy that he got traded for on there.

06:52It reminds me of Glenn Rice.

06:53It's like Glenn Rice will never be on any heat Mount Rushmore, though he is a...

06:57You know, you could argue that he should have his jersey retired.

07:00He's one of the greatest shooters in heat history.

07:04That's when there wasn't shooting threes like they are now.

07:07But he is also the pivot point where they trade him for Alonzo Mourning, you know?

07:12And it feels like this huge pivot point of the franchise.

07:14But wait, Alonzo Mourning is there.

07:17Of course, Alonzo Mourning is up there.

07:18See what I'm saying?

07:19Of course.

07:20But you understand?

07:21Because that was the start of heat culture.

07:24I understand like wanting to have some diversity of eras in the Panthers.

07:29Diversity of eras?

07:30Okay.

07:31Did I mess that up?

07:32You put an H in there.

07:35Diversities.

07:35I apologize.

07:36But that's okay.

07:37But I'm saying like I feel like Huberto is with the Barkov-Ekblad era.

07:42So that's covered.

07:43They got that.

07:46I will only allow Luongo up there.

07:50Here's the thing.

07:53Let's think about it this way.

07:56Right?

07:58One of the best players to play for the Dallas Cowboys was...

08:05You know, Emmitt Smith and the big three.

08:10However, none of that happens without trading and getting all those draft picks for Herschel Walker.

08:19Right.

08:20It would be the equivalent to putting Herschel Walker on the Mount Rushmore.

08:24Yeah.

08:25I don't think Huberto can be up there.

08:26You see what I'm saying?

08:27Because that was the start of it.

08:30The original start of it was the Dallas Cowboys trading Herschel Walker for all those picks from the Vikings.

08:38Okay.

08:39So that was the turnaround.

08:40And then you got your Mount Rushmore.

08:42So that's kind of how I feel about Huberto.

08:47Great player.

08:49But the guy that you got for him was the catalyst behind where you are now.

08:57He's the face of the Panthers.

08:58Even with Barkov being the captain.

09:00Like he's the guy that they market.

09:02He's on the EA Sports.

09:03So if we're going to put Kachuk up there, we're taking Huberto off.

09:07So you're saying Kachuk has to be up there.

09:11If you got Huberto up there.

09:14All right.

09:15So Huberto, you're gone.

09:16You've been trading for Kachuk again.

09:18Now.

09:19Bob or Bobby Lou?

09:23So it would be the equivalent to saying, do I put Alonzo or do I put Shaq?

09:30Like, Alonzo set the Heat on a proper course.

09:38And he will be forever known as the culture setter.

09:42As the person who started the culture of the Miami Heat.

09:48However, they didn't win the championship until they got Shaq.

09:53And Alonzo was kind of coming off the bench.

09:55Correct.

09:57So.

09:59Who was more important?

10:00The guy that won the championship or the guy who set the tone?

10:05I think I got to go with Bob.

10:07I'm sorry, Bobby Lou.

10:07I'm sorry.

10:08I'm sorry.

10:09I'm sorry.

10:10I'm sorry.

10:11I'm sorry.

10:11I feel like this is a hard decision.

10:15All right.

10:15So if I say Florida Panthers.

10:18Right.

10:19First name out of your mouth is Bobby Lou.

10:21Okay.

10:21So if Sergey Bobrovsky, he's 60.

10:27No, he's 56 wins away from Roberto Luongo, all time wins.

10:31And that's just regular season.

10:32That's just regular season.

10:33Right.

10:34No, he's going to pass in playoffs.

10:36He's going to.

10:37So he's.

10:37I'm sorry.

10:38Sergey Bobrovsky.

10:38I'm sorry, Roberto.

10:39I'm sorry.

10:39I understand it's, it's a cup.

10:42It's a cup.

10:43They're important in different ways, but who was more important?

10:51Right.

10:52Because we can say that the culture of this franchise changed when they got two people.

11:00Wow.

11:01All Maurice and Matthew Kachuk.

11:04Jennifer's taking a, she's thinking of taking Aaron Eckblad off.

11:07She says, what about Barkoff?

11:09Bob Luongo and Kachuk.

11:12You can't.

11:13Why you got two goalies?

11:15Can you have two goalies?

11:16You can have two.

11:16We talked about that.

11:17I mean, could you have, if you had to pick between Kachuk and Bob, I think I'm going Bob.

11:22I'm going Kachuk.

11:25But you could have two goalies.

11:27There's no rules against having two goalies.

11:28Because keep in mind, keep in mind.

11:32Okay.

11:32And hear me out.

11:35When Bob was struggling.

11:36You said, and everybody said, the defense and the physicality that they play with in front of him is why he's having so many problems.

11:48Because there's no resistance.

11:50Yep.

11:50You're bringing Kachuk.

11:52The whole tenor, or, and Paul Maurice, the whole tenor of the team changes.

11:59They become physical, more aggressive on defense.

12:02And then Bob flourishes.

12:04So, if I don't add Kachuk, does Bob have the success with the way the team started playing?

12:12Just saying.

12:14Just saying.

Florida Panthers Mt. Rushmore Posted By Bleacher Report | Did They Get It Right?

Category

Transcript

Be the first to comment

Recommended