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During a California State Assembly Elections Committee hearing on Tuesday, Asm. David Tangipa (R) questioned Asm. Marc Berman (D) over the effort to advance new Congressional maps in response to President Donald Trump and Republicans' efforts to redistrict Texas.
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00:00Assemblymember Tangapa.
00:03Okay.
00:05I hope you bear with me because I spent a lot of time trying to catch up,
00:09trying to read, trying to inform myself as much as possible
00:13because we've had so little time,
00:15so little time that even the presenters stated that they didn't even read the bill.
00:20And I would hope that the authors or the other co-authors on this bill,
00:27I hope they don't hold the same sentiment that the people of California
00:32don't even deserve a read on a bill.
00:35I have a few technical questions, actually.
00:40And first and foremost, I do want to say thank you to the opposition testimony.
00:45I can say this.
00:45What we've seen today is I know I'm a conservative.
00:48I know I'm a Republican.
00:50And I know that we have differences.
00:52But the maps that both of you worked on, especially in the beginning, too,
00:57did give representation.
00:58Now, I can say that I did not vote on the fair commission,
01:04mainly because I was 12 years old at the time.
01:07But I respected it.
01:08I truly respected it.
01:10And a lot of the work and the deliberation,
01:12because I was one of those kids that was overly, overly into, you know,
01:17our elected leaders.
01:18And a big portion of that is because I grew up right down the street from the Capitol,
01:22you know, in one of the poorest communities in the entire state of California,
01:27and actually one of the roughest gang-affiliated communities.
01:30And it was those gang members that actually protected me,
01:33paid for me to get into this position.
01:35And now I can proudly say,
01:36as the first Polynesian individual ever elected to the state of California,
01:41you know, it was done by an independent redistricting commission
01:43that actually believed in the efficacy of what this state can be.
01:47And there's a lot that we've heard today of testimony, you know,
01:51and we've seen a true bipartisan coalition here,
01:55just trying to protect, because California should lead the way.
01:58When other states decide to do something else, we shouldn't react to them.
02:02We should prove by example that we can do this better,
02:05that we create the foundations for the rest of the nation,
02:08because it's supposed to go as California goes the nation.
02:12That's, we've lost that.
02:13And that's what we've seen and heard today.
02:17I mean, we can't even read our own bill,
02:19but we'll decide to present it and vote on it too.
02:21That's insanity.
02:22And that's heartbreaking to the rest of Californians.
02:25Because again, I was one of those kids who just obsessed
02:28that the policymakers in this building actually cared about the people of California.
02:32But how can you say you actually care about the people of California
02:36if you didn't even read it?
02:38You know, and that breaks my heart,
02:40because I spend so much time on this.
02:42Because I'll work myself to death,
02:45trying, trying, trying to make sure.
02:48I didn't ask a question, but I just wanted to make sure.
02:51No, but you're misrepresenting what I said, Mr. Tongapa.
02:52And you're doing it over and over and over again.
02:55And I will correct the record when it's my time.
02:57Okay, Assemblymember Tongapa, let's let the Assemblymember Berman speak.
03:01But I was...
03:02No, no, go ahead.
03:04Just know that Tongapa is absolutely misrepresenting what I said over and over again.
03:08Which he needs to do to try to justify his position on this bill,
03:11and I understand that.
03:11But you stated that you supported it prior to seeing it.
03:14Is that not what you said, verbatim?
03:16What I said is that there were discussions about the concept of the bill,
03:19and I absolutely support those concepts.
03:20The bill is five pages long.
03:22I'm sorry it took you so long to read it.
03:23I'm sorry that from yesterday morning was too long for you to be able to read a five-page bill.
03:28That's all right.
03:29But we discuss, as legislators, right?
03:31We discuss concepts.
03:32We discuss ideas.
03:33We decide whether or not we're going to support things.
03:34Because this bill is attached to so many others.
03:36I understand why that's a new concept for you.
03:38That's okay.
03:38But I'm glad that you took 36 hours to read a five-page bill.
03:41It does.
03:42It does take me time.
03:43And I welcome the debate.
03:44It does take me time because I will take 36 hours to read a five-page bill
03:47for 40 million people in this state.
03:49Because they deserve it.
03:51Because they deserve it.
03:52It's five pages, Mr. Tongapa.
03:53That's okay.
03:54Okay, we're not debating the length of the time it takes to read five pages.
03:58Let's stick to the substance of the bill, please.
03:59Exactly.
04:00Thank you, Madam Chair.
04:01So, truly, I appreciate it all.
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