00:00My office received reports that there are ghost projects in the municipalities of Kalumpit, Malolos, and Hagonoy in the province of Bulacan.
00:09Can you confirm this?
00:10Yes, Your Honor.
00:12That's true.
00:13Well, this is the information that we have received, Your Honor.
00:16And the contractor allegedly, Wawaw Builders, correct?
00:24That's correct, Your Honor.
00:25And SYMS Construction.
00:28Am I correct?
00:31I don't recall that name, Your Honor.
00:33Who is the owner of Wawaw Builders?
00:36Is he here?
00:39Is he present here?
00:49Senator Jingoy was invited, but I will not reply as of now.
00:54May I know who is the legitimate owner of this construction company?
01:02Mark?
01:03Mark Alan Arevalo.
01:05Mark Alan Arevalo.
01:06All right.
01:08I think the committee will issue a Sofina.
01:11So, sa aking palagay, ito mga ghost projects na nabulgar na ngayon, siguro inaayos na nila.
01:20Tama?
01:23Para hindi maalata na ghost.
01:24And I don't think that they will have that capability anymore, Your Honor, because I think if this were ghost projects in the first place, you know,
01:35they would not have delivered the time actually to do anything at this point in time.
01:41The records will show that if this is recorded, if there is no project at all that was implemented, and payment has been made, then it's on.
01:52Tapos na. Nasunog na yung pera natin.
01:54That's actually...
01:55All right.
01:56Magkano ang inaward dito sa mga sa Wawaw?
02:00Wawaw Builders?
02:01I don't have the figure right now, Mr. Chair, but I think it's predominantly in...
02:06I don't know. Mayroong mga figures dyan.
02:08Huwag niyo ako lulukohin dito.
02:11Labas niyo ako magkano yung inaward nito sa Wawaw.
02:14Builders.
02:16Mga ghost projects.
02:19We'll wait for it.
02:29Mr. Chair,
02:31well, I've just been given the
02:33the tabulation.
02:35Wawaw Builders.
02:42Wawaw Builders.
02:47The number of projects,
02:51the total projects,
02:53total cost of the projects that have been implemented
02:55is
02:57nine billion
03:00nine million
03:06or nine billion?
03:07Nine billion
03:09all over the country, Mr. Chair.
03:11But let me just point out,
03:13in Bulacan,
03:13in Bulacan alone,
03:16Wawaw Builders
03:17had 85
03:18projects
03:21amounting to
03:225,971,800,000.
03:25In Bulacan alone,
03:26what about the three minutes politics
03:28that I've mentioned?
03:29Kalumpit,
03:30Haganoy,
03:31and
03:31Malolos.
03:40This is for
03:41Bulacan,
03:42Bulacan 1st Engineering District
03:44Office,
03:44Your Honor.
03:45Ito bang,
03:46I'm not familiar,
03:47ito bang Kalumpit,
03:48Malolos,
03:48Haganoy Falls,
03:49under the 1st
03:50District?
03:50Yes, Your Honor.
03:52Yes.
03:53Alright.
03:53So,
03:54magkano?
03:54Yung
03:55sa Wawaw?
03:555,971,811,600,000.
04:02In Bulacan alone?
04:03In
04:04Bulacan 1st Engineering District,
04:07Your Honor.
04:09So,
04:09yung 5 billion
04:10na inaward
04:11sa Wawaw Builders
04:12para sa
04:13province,
04:14Bulacan,
04:16are all
04:16ghost projects?
04:17Correct?
04:20Secretary,
04:21for the record,
04:22the total is
04:239 billion.
04:24That is
04:24nationwide?
04:25Nationwide,
04:26Nationwide,
04:27Your Honor.
04:28Pero lahat
04:28yung ghost projects?
04:30Your Honor?
04:31Ghost projects lahat?
04:32No po.
04:33So,
04:33ang ghost project lang
04:34na sinasabi mo,
04:35siya Bulacan lang.
04:36There are,
04:37there are,
04:38seems to be,
04:38there seems to be
04:39some ghost projects
04:40actually as reported,
04:41Your Honor.
04:42Are you investigating
04:42this right now?
04:43Yes,
04:43Your Honor,
04:44I'm investigating it.
04:45What is the status
04:46of your investigation?
04:47They will be coming up
04:48with their,
04:49they will be coming up
04:52with their
04:53financial and
04:55physical report
04:57in one week's time,
04:59Your Honor,
04:59to my office.
05:02Mr. Chairman,
05:04with the permission
05:05of Senator
05:05Jingo Estrada,
05:07it's connected
05:08to his question.
05:09Yes,
05:09Senator Soto,
05:11please,
05:11you are an executive,
05:12How did Wawa Builders,
05:13how did Wawa Builders
05:15get that
05:165.9 billion
05:18in those three
05:19municipalities
05:20in Bulacan?
05:22How did they get that?
05:23Who in,
05:24who inserted that
05:25into the budget
05:26of DPWH?
05:27Let me just
05:28clarify a little bit,
05:29Mr. Chairman.
05:30The amount
05:31that I have mentioned
05:32is actually
05:33for four years
05:35up to
05:36fiscal year
05:382025.
05:39It started
05:40in 2022,
05:422023,
05:432024,
05:43and 2025,
05:45Your Honor.
05:45Let's clear that,
05:46Mr. Secretary,
05:48the 9 point
05:48something billion
05:49is for four years?
05:505.9
05:51for Wawa,
05:52Your Honor.
05:54No, no,
05:54the total
05:55for four years
05:56is nine
05:56something billion?
05:57Yes,
05:57Your Honor.
05:58And the five
05:59something billion
06:00ghost project
06:01is in Bulacan alone?
06:03Not totally
06:04ghost project,
06:05Your Honor.
06:05I'm not saying
06:06it's not totally
06:07ghost project,
06:08but the total
06:09amount of project
06:10that 85,
06:1285,
06:1385 projects
06:14that he has
06:15implemented
06:15during the
06:17four-year period
06:18amounts to
06:185 billion
06:19971 million,
06:21Your Honor.
06:21So,
06:25Senator Jingo,
06:26your feelings
06:26are ready?
06:27Are you going
06:28to interject,
06:28ma'am?
06:29You want to interject?
06:31Okay.
06:35Tapos ka na,
06:36Senator Tito.
06:38No,
06:38I did not get
06:39an answer,
06:39Mr. President,
06:40Mr. Chairman,
06:412025 na lang.
06:452025,
06:46how much
06:47Wawa Builders
06:48para mas
06:50madali nyo
06:50ma-identify.
06:512025,
06:52Your Honor,
06:53he has
06:54five projects
06:55in that
06:56engineering district
06:58amounting to
06:59435,000,710,000,913,000.
07:07So,
07:08400 plus
07:09million
07:10for that
07:10particular
07:11area
07:11na
07:12being
07:13suspected
07:14as
07:14ghost
07:15project?
07:16Well,
07:16some of
07:17them,
07:17Your Honor.
07:17Some of
07:17them,
07:18okay.
07:19How did
07:19they get
07:20that
07:20through
07:23bidding?
07:24They
07:24participated
07:25in the
07:25bidding,
07:26Your Honor.
07:26How did
07:26that budget
07:27get into
07:29your budget,
07:30the DPWH?
07:31Was there
07:32a senator
07:32or a
07:33congressman
07:34who inserted
07:34that for
07:36that particular
07:37area?
07:37Well,
07:38we'll just
07:39have to
07:39find out,
07:40Your Honor,
07:40because there
07:41are many
07:42sources in
07:422025.
07:46Let me
07:46just point
07:47out that
07:48some of
07:48the projects
07:49were included
07:50in the
07:50national
07:50expenditure
07:51program
07:52that
07:53has been
07:55submitted
07:55to
07:56Congress.
07:57And,
07:57of course,
07:57there are
07:58projects
07:58that were
07:59actually
07:59added on
08:00in the
08:00general
08:01appropriation
08:01supply.
08:03Anyway,
08:04thank you.
08:05Mr. Chairman,
08:06thank you.
08:06I did not
08:07get the
08:07answer.
08:08Senator
08:09Estrada,
08:09thank you
08:10very much.
08:11With the
08:12permission of
08:12Senator
08:13Estrada,
08:14related
08:14to the
08:15question,
08:16Mr. Chair,
08:20if
08:20gano'n
08:21na
08:21inamin
08:22ng
08:23DPWH
08:23na
08:25merong
08:25ghost
08:25projects
08:26dyan
08:27sa
08:27flood
08:29control,
08:31pwede
08:31malaman
08:31from
08:32COA,
08:33paano
08:34ito
08:34nakalusot?
08:36Anong
08:37papel
08:37ng
08:37COA
08:37dito
08:38sa
08:38ghost
08:39projects
08:40na ito?
08:40Bakit
08:40hindi
08:40ito
08:41nyo
08:41nakita?
08:42Pwede
08:43malaman,
08:43Mr.
08:43Chair?
08:45Good
08:45morning,
08:46Mr.
08:47Chair,
08:47and
08:47your
08:48honor.
08:49Based
08:49po
08:49sa
08:49aming
08:50mga
08:50reports
08:51na
08:51nakuha
08:51po
08:51from
08:52our
08:52regional
08:53and
08:53district
08:54engineering
08:54offices,
08:55ongoing
08:56pa lang
08:56po
08:57yung
08:57kanilang
08:57pagkulate
08:58ng
08:58mga
08:58observations,
08:59sir.
09:00Actually,
09:01sir,
09:01may
09:01mga
09:02observations
09:02naman
09:03po,
09:03pero
09:03hindi
09:03ko
09:04mako
09:05conclude
09:05na
09:06pertaining
09:06po
09:06ito
09:07sa
09:07mga
09:07ghost
09:08projects.
09:09Marami
09:09naman
09:09po
09:09observation
09:10ng
09:11mga
09:11auditors
09:11natin,
09:12sir,
09:12kasi
09:13marami
09:13din
09:13pong
09:14types
09:14of
09:14audit
09:14ang
09:15kinakandak
09:15na
09:15mga
09:15auditors
09:17natin
09:17regularly,
09:18sir.
09:18May
09:18compliance?
09:19Yes,
09:19I mean,
09:20for this
09:20particular
09:21projects
09:21na
09:22kinlaim,
09:23inamin,
09:24ng
09:24DPWH,
09:25na talagang
09:26ghost
09:26projects
09:27ito,
09:28pwede
09:28niyo
09:28tutukan
09:29ito,
09:29and can
09:29we
09:29have
09:30results
09:30in the
09:31next
09:31hearing
09:32na
09:32ikakandak
09:32natin?
09:33Opo,
09:33sir.
09:33Actually,
09:34sir,
09:34meron na po
09:35tayong
09:35office
09:36order
09:36from
09:37our
09:37chairman,
09:38particularly
09:39para sa
09:39fraud audit
09:40ng
09:41Bulacan,
09:41sir.
09:42Thank you
09:42for that.
09:43Mr.
09:43Chairman.
09:44I hope
09:44next hearing.
09:46Thank you,
09:47Mr.
09:47Chairman.
09:47Mr.
09:48Chairman,
09:48related to
09:48kay
09:50Senator
09:52Jingo,
09:52in order
09:52for
09:53arrival,
09:53just one
09:53question,
09:54Mr.
09:54Chairman.
09:55All right.
09:56I'll give
09:56it,
09:56Mr.
09:56Chairman.
09:59Isang
09:59tanong
09:59lam.
10:00Mr.
10:03Chair.
10:04Two.
10:05Two.
10:06Kasi
10:06nabanggit
10:07nga
10:08dito
10:08ganina
10:08na may
10:09mga
10:09ghost
10:10projects,
10:11na may
10:11mga
10:12projects
10:13na
10:13nabigay
10:14sa mga
10:14contractor
10:15na
10:15kaduda-duda
10:16for the
10:17longest
10:17time.
10:18Ang
10:18tanong
10:18ko
10:19sa
10:19DPWH,
10:21kasi
10:22sa
10:22ngayon,
10:23nag-research
10:24kami,
10:26so
10:26103
10:26na
10:27blacklisted
10:28na
10:28mga
10:29contractors.
10:30Isa
10:30lang
10:30dito
10:31ang
10:31na
10:31blacklist
10:32ng
10:32DPWH
10:33sa
10:33flood
10:33control.
10:34Isa
10:34lang.
10:36Bakit
10:36isa
10:36lang?
10:37Kung
10:37inaami
10:38naman
10:38ng
10:38DPWH,
10:39pinag-usapan
10:40natin
10:40dito
10:40for the
10:41longest
10:41time,
10:42marami
10:42mga
10:42anomalya
10:43katiyualayan
10:43sa
10:44flood
10:44control
10:44at
10:44mga
10:45contractor
10:46na
10:46gumagawa
10:47ng
10:47gross
10:47projects,
10:48bakit
10:48isa
10:49lang
10:49ang
10:49na
10:49flood
10:50down
10:50on
10:51a
10:51blacklist?
10:55Well,
10:56Your
10:57Honor,
10:57I
10:58think
10:58unfortunately
10:59these are
11:02now being
11:03validated in
11:04the field.
11:05These are
11:05now being
11:06validated in
11:07the field.
11:07So,
11:08pagka
11:10wala
11:10naman pong
11:11derogatory
11:13information
11:15that
11:16will come
11:16out in
11:17the
11:17bidding
11:17process
11:18for
11:18these
11:18contractors,
11:19they
11:19could be
11:20allowed
11:20to
11:20participate.
11:23Wala
11:24naman
11:24pa
11:24kaming
11:24basis
11:25for
11:26for
11:26for
11:26people.
11:26I
11:26will
11:26give
11:27a
11:27reason
11:27why
11:27it
11:28is
11:28a
11:28blacklist
11:29because
11:30many
11:30contractors
11:32are
11:33contractors
11:33and
11:34they
11:35are
11:35doing
11:36projects
11:37and
11:37block
11:37of
11:38ghost
11:38projects.
11:39So,
11:39they
11:39don't block
11:39themselves.
11:40Thank you, Your Honor.
11:41Mr. Chairman.
11:43Mr. Chair.
11:45Mr. Chair.
11:45Mr. Secretary.
11:47Mr. Secretary.
11:49Do you have 5.7 billion?
11:51Most of these are ghost projects, as you have admitted already.
11:55I cannot say that most of it at this point in time, Your Honor.
12:00But I think in this 5.9 billion pesos that is there in the Wawa Builders,
12:10there could be some.
12:13Yes, Your Honor.
12:16So some of these projects are ghost projects.
12:18Could be, Your Honor.
12:20So that's convenient already.
12:22Some of these projects in Bulacan are ghost projects.
12:26Mr. Chairman.
12:27What happens with the performance band?
12:29What do you do with the performance band?
12:31Each project has a performance band.
12:36Kama po?
12:37Yes, Your Honor.
12:38Are you supposed to confiscate the performance band?
12:42Well, if the project has been slapsed, actually, for its warranty, Your Honor.
12:50And I submitted some of these projects are ghost projects.
12:53Yes, Your Honor.
12:54So you have to run after the performance band.
12:56Your insurance company, kailangan habulin natin.
13:01Yes, Your Honor.
13:01Yes.
13:02What will you do?
13:04Well, as soon as we are able to file all the necessary...
13:09How much does it take, the insurance company, as I say, sa experience ninyo?
13:16These are ghost projects?
13:19As soon as we are able to finally come up with the documentation, Your Honor, and then I think...
13:24Okay, for the record, kapag nakita natin na ghost projects, you will run after the performance bands posted by this contractor.
13:35Yes, Your Honor.
13:35And to the question of Senator Bato, Madam Coa, ano nga, ano bang ginawa ninyo?
13:42Most of these projects have been established, admitted as ghost projects.
13:46Bakit hindi kayo makapagsalita, makapag-report?
13:50Ghost pala.
13:51Bakit lumusot sa inyo?
13:53Sir, sa ngayon po, sir, since we are still consolidating and gathering data from our regional and district...
14:01Alam nyo yung problema ninyo? You have a very standard way of answering us.
14:05Yes, sir.
14:05You are still waiting for your regional offices.
14:09Alam nyo yung problema ninyo, Madam Coa?
14:11Kasi puro kayo post-audit.
14:14Mag-u-audit kayo pag tapos na yung project.
14:16Like what happened in Misamis Occidental.
14:20I ask your regional...
14:23Anong tawag nyo ron?
14:25Director, po.
14:26Regional Director ng Coa.
14:28I ask him,
14:29There is a very irregular project being constructed in Misamis Occidental in Barangay, Lama'an.
14:38This is a project shepherded by the former...
14:47Ano yan?
14:48He was a deputy speaker in the House of Representatives.
14:53Kapareho was a deputy speaker.
14:54He was able to get a 50 million project from DPWH.
15:03Tinanong ko yung DPWH doon in Region 10.
15:06How come DPWH now is funding housing projects?
15:11Kailan nangyari ito?
15:12And then when I asked him,
15:17Yung baka kong pagtatayuan ng lupa ng housing project na yan,
15:20costing 50 million pesos.
15:23By the way, Mr. Secretary,
15:26Yung contractor doon,
15:28ay itong Alpha and Omega General Contractor and Development Corporation.
15:32One of the 15 contractors identified by the President.
15:35Sabi ko, tinanong ko sa kanya,
15:39Alam mo ba na yung pagtatayuan ng housing project na ito,
15:44ay hindi pa sa pangalan ng city?
15:47I don't know, sir.
15:50Bakit hindi mo alam?
15:52Eh kasi po, mag-u-audit lang po kami pagkatapos ng project.
15:56Saka naman nakakakita ito.
15:58Ibig po, sinasabi ko na nga sa iyo ngayon eh.
16:01The city of Laman,
16:02the local government's LG unit at that time,
16:08succeeded in getting a writ of possession.
16:13On the basis of the writ of possession,
16:15itatayo nila yung housing project.
16:17I told them,
16:18is the writ of possession transformed itself as a title for the city?
16:23Hindi ko po alam.
16:24Sabi ng inyong ko, ah.
16:25Eh, pag natabos ang project na ito,
16:30kanino ka ako ang project na ito?
16:33Hindi ko po alam.
16:36Ito po yung nangyayari ngayon eh.
16:40Ito na naman pong Alpha and Omega General Contractors and Development.
16:45Ginamit lang po yung lisensa niya,
16:48Mr. Secretary.
16:49Alam mo niyo kung sino yung gumawa doon?
16:51Yung mismong gobernador ngayon,
16:54na mayroong isang construction company.
16:56I hope he is listening.
16:59At sasabihin ko sa kanya ngayon,
17:01hindi pa ako tapos sa iyo.
17:02Mr. Chairman.
17:03Heo.
17:03Isang,
17:04If you are therapeutic to the city in the world,
17:04I hope your body has skilled people who's being alimentated.
17:06Isang,
17:07isang,
17:08isang.
17:09Mag близan.
17:09I'm car所,
17:09man suggestions at Sherek.
17:11Isang aswa.
17:12I'm a backpack at isang.
17:12I'm a backpacker.
17:13thermal light,
17:13Nima.
17:14lnn,
17:14iroo.
17:15Ito mo nor isang.
17:16For example,
17:16ima app.
17:16Rapina san However,
17:18so isang.
17:19nasa2 ooh.
17:19To the movie of bowls,
17:20I found out.
17:21I'm a будто Boy,
17:21in this book from Latina,
17:22I'm a bigger person
17:23I questions.
17:24The pain,
17:25it positioned surtout in my bodyly.
