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At Meta, a chaotic culture and lack of vision have led to brain drain, with rivals saying its AI talent is lackluster. But Zuckerberg’s frenzied hiring spree hasn’t stopped the departures.

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00:00Today on Forbes, Zuckerberg squandered his AI talent. Now he's spending billions to replace it.
00:08Meta was teaming with top AI talent, until it wasn't. Years before Mark Zuckerberg's
00:14high-profile shopping spree, the company employed the researchers and engineers
00:18that would ultimately depart to start major AI companies. Founders of Perplexity, Mistral,
00:24Fireworks AI and World Labs all hailed from the Facebook parents AI lab. And as the AI boom has
00:31spurred the build of ever more capable models, others have decamped to rivals like OpenAI,
00:36Anthropic and Google. The brain drain of the last few years has been tough,
00:42three former Meta AI employees told Forbes. One ex-Meta AI employee said, quote,
00:49they already had the best people and lost them to OpenAI. This is Mark trying to undo the loss
00:54of talent. And now, even as Zuckerberg makes jaw-dropping offers for top-tier AI researchers,
01:01the social media giant continues to lose those that are left.
01:06Today, when it comes to recruiting high-caliber AI researchers, Meta is often an afterthought.
01:12Insiders at some of Silicon Valley's biggest AI companies said that prior to the fresh hiring
01:16of the last few months, Meta's talent largely didn't meet their hiring bar.
01:21A senior executive at one of the major frontier AI companies told Forbes, quote,
01:26we might be interested in hiring some of the new people Mark is hiring now,
01:29but it's been a while since we were particularly interested in the people who were already there.
01:36Google has hired less than two dozen AI employees from Meta since last fall,
01:40according to a person familiar with Google's hiring, compared to the hundreds of AI researchers
01:45and engineers it hired in that time frame overall. That person told Forbes that, quote,
01:50prevailing belief is that Meta didn't have much talent left to poach from.
01:56This has lent an air of desperation to Zuckerberg's attempts to raid the likes of OpenAI and Thinking
02:01Machine Labs, the fledgling startup helmed by former OpenAI CTO Mira Mirati, with nine-figure offers
02:08and promises of near unlimited compute. In at least two cases, the Meta CEO has offered pay packages
02:16worth over $1 billion spread across multiple years, according to the Wall Street Journal.
02:21He reportedly poached at least 18 OpenAI researchers, but many have also turned him down,
02:27betting on bigger impact and better returns on their equity.
02:30Referring to an NFL team and its pursuit of free agents, one AI founder told Forbes, quote,
02:37Meta is the Washington commanders of tech companies. They massively overpay for OK-ish AI scientists,
02:43and then civilians think those are the best AI scientists in the world because they are paid so much.
02:49Meta strongly denied that it has had issues with AI talent and retention.
02:54Spokesperson Ryan Daniels said in a statement, quote,
02:58The underlying facts clearly don't back up this story, but that didn't stop unnamed sources with
03:03agendas from pushing this narrative or Forbes from publishing it.
03:08Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei has said he's spoken to Anthropic employees who have gotten offers from
03:13Meta who didn't take them, adding that his company wouldn't renegotiate employee salaries based on those
03:19offers. Last month on the Big Technology podcast, he said, quote,
03:23If Mark Zuckerberg throws a dart at a dartboard and hits your name, that doesn't mean you should be
03:28paid 10 times more than the guy next to you who's just as skilled, just as talented.
03:34Anthropic has an 80% retention rate, the strongest among the frontier labs,
03:39according to a May report by VC firm SignalFire. The findings are based on data collected for all
03:45full-time roles, including engineering, sales, and HR, and not AI researchers specifically.
03:51In comparison, DeepMind has 78%, OpenAI 67%, and Meta trails with 64%.
04:01An August report from SignalFire that focused broadly on engineering talent noted that Meta
04:06is aggressively hiring engineers across the company twice as fast as it is losing them.
04:12Jared Reyes, SignalFire's head of developer community, said, quote,
04:16Some outbound movement helps explain why Meta is investing so heavily in rebuilding and expanding
04:21its technical bench. It reflects the intensity of competition for senior AI talent and the pressure
04:27even top companies feel to backfill experience while scaling new initiatives.
04:33For full coverage, check out Rashi Srivastava and Richard Nieva's piece on Forbes.com.
04:40This is Kieran Meadows from Forbes. Thanks for tuning in.
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