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James Reston Jr. looks at the growing popularity of state lotteries in the US.
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00:01Frontline is a presentation of the Documentary Consortium.
00:10This September in Florida, a record $105 million jackpot sparked the latest outbreak of lottery fever.
00:17People are buying anywhere from 1 to 1,000 tickets at a time.
00:21I'm gonna play everyday new numbers that come to my head.
00:23You're gonna get how many?
00:2420 today.
00:25And then what?
00:26Maybe 20 tomorrow.
00:27$1,100 worth of tickets.
00:30All it takes is one, right?
00:32Folks are actually flying in from overseas to purchase tickets.
00:35We don't have it in England, and I think it's fine, especially if I win.
00:41Tonight on Frontline.
00:45How lottery fever is sweeping the country.
00:48As of late yesterday afternoon, $42 million, which I want to remind everybody is $2,100,000 a year for the next 20 years.
00:56More than half of all states now run lotteries, raising over $20 billion a year.
01:01With the lotteries, you have the government out promoting gambling, and I don't think that's the proper role of government.
01:07Correspondent James Reston, Jr. investigates America's infatuation with lotteries and its ambivalence.
01:13The lottery is gambling, isn't it?
01:15I don't think so.
01:16It's not gambling.
01:17It's not gambling, right.
01:18It's entertainment.
01:19It gives people false hopes, false dreams.
01:22And as my father would say, you know, if you save that money, then how much would you have?
01:28Who really wins?
01:30And who loses?
01:32Tonight, betting on the lottery.
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01:53This is Frontline.
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02:02Lotto fever.
02:04Show us your lotto tickets.
02:06I'm a lotto ball and I'm okay.
02:08Sleep all night and I work all day.
02:13It's lotto fever.
02:16Who's ready for lotto?
02:18Forty-two million dollars and climbing.
02:21This is it.
02:23Forty-two million dollars and climbing.
02:26Have you played your lotto this week?
02:28Come on.
02:29Don't put it off till tomorrow.
02:31Seven o'clock there'll be a big one.
02:33Six.
02:36For four weeks, nobody has won the big jackpot in the Illinois State Lottery.
02:41And so it's grown from 10 million to 18 to 30.
02:45Now, there's 42 million dollars for grabs on the streets of Chicago.
02:49Six.
02:5023.
02:5129.
02:5230.
02:5334.
02:54And 45.
02:56Thank you very much.
02:56The lottery in Illinois is thriving.
02:59Two billion in sales last year.
03:01Six.
03:0219.
03:0321.
03:0427.
03:05And 14.
03:07What are those numbers?
03:08My birthday, my birthday, my son's birthday, my wife's birthday, and my wife is in my age.
03:13When I was eight, I went to St. Louis to live.
03:17When I was 11, I was already there.
03:21When I was 16, I got married.
03:23I got married again at 38.
03:25I got married again at 38.
03:25I remember with your mind, everybody.
03:30In an office overlooking the city, I found the woman who has decided that this week's jackpot
03:36will be 42 million.
03:37Her name is Sharon Sharp.
03:40She's the director of the Illinois State Lottery.
03:43I'm a very directed person.
03:46I wake up in the morning, and I think lottery.
03:49I go to bed at night, and I think lottery.
03:52And my husband says if he hears the word lottery one more time, he's had it.
03:57It's Friday morning.
03:57Thirty-six hours before the drawing, and Sharon Sharp must decide whether to freeze the jackpot
04:03at 42 million or bump it higher.
04:08Dave?
04:08Yeah?
04:09Hi.
04:10Front line wants to hear our conversations every hour.
04:14Okay.
04:14This is decision making.
04:16Okay.
04:17In comparison to the $52 million week...
04:20If she bumps, there will be more lottery fever and more sales.
04:24But if she sets it too high, the lottery will lose money.
04:28This is public money she is risking.
04:31If you dropped a screw in your head and you suddenly took a wacko decision of bumping to
04:37$52 million, who watches over you?
04:39The governor?
04:40No.
04:41No, that's...
04:41It would just go through.
04:42You have the authority...
04:43The reason that I'm here is because I have the common sense to protect the state's money.
04:48Anyway, this is, first of all, this job, you have to have guts.
04:56I mean, you cannot be a chicken and be in this job and run an effective lottery.
05:01But there is a time where common sense and risk doesn't add up.
05:08I will always risk to seek an additional revenue impact, but I will not risk if I don't think
05:17that risk is worth it.
05:19And in this case, that risk is not worth it.
05:21I mean, we may end up at $45 million tomorrow.
05:24And I will have to question whether I was chicken because I didn't bump it up right now.
05:29But I will also have to say that I did, with what information I had at the time, the responsible
05:36thing to do.
05:37And if I wasn't responsible, I wouldn't be in this job.
05:41Okay, let's talk lottery.
05:42Okay.
05:43Where are we at and what can people expect tomorrow night?
05:47As of late yesterday afternoon, $42 million, which I want to remind everybody is $2,100,000
05:53a year for the next 20 years.
05:55And what can we expect?
05:57It all depends on...
05:58She's a political woman who once ran for Illinois Secretary of State and lost.
06:04With the lottery, she gets to campaign every week.
06:07Although for $42 million, people might want to get a little bit wet.
06:12Yeah, right.
06:13The lottery hates the rain.
06:15The rain lowers the steam index, as she calls it.
06:20I was waiting for you outside.
06:23Out in the cold, in the rain.
06:25I want you to remember, I was out in the cold, in the rain.
06:27And having a cup of coffee, and I'd gotten over at McDonald's, and there was a bag lady
06:35out there with her bags.
06:37And I was just standing there, and she was standing there, and she started talking.
06:43She didn't know who I was.
06:44And she started talking about the dream she had last night, where she had dreamed the numbers
06:51of the lottery.
06:51And there was only one problem.
06:55She could not remember four of the numbers.
06:59And she felt that they had something to do with an address that she had known in her past life.
07:04And we sat out there for a full half hour, and she never knew who I was, but she started
07:11to go over her life and the events that took place where she thought that these numbers related
07:16to.
07:17And it was very touching.
07:19But I ask, isn't the lottery really toying with people's dreams?
07:23It's the typical lottery dream, and that is, yes, I'm going to win sometime.
07:30Yes, it's not depressing that I'm not going to get it.
07:32It's worth the dream to think I am.
07:36And it's not a sad story, because it gives people hope.
07:40It gives them something to think about.
07:42She's going to have a good time today.
07:43Okay, we did $730,000 between $930,000 and $1030,000.
07:53Is this like election day for you?
07:55It's worse than that.
07:56I knew I was going to lose the election.
07:59I mean, I'm in a calculated risk situation.
08:02I feel like I gamble every week.
08:06I mean, and again, I mean, the gamble comes to head today.
08:10I mean, it's like being in a craft table and waiting for your numbers to come up.
08:14It's, it's, uh, um, I can't explain it.
08:20I mean, it's, uh, it's a stomach-crunching feeling.
08:24She makes her weekly rounds, spreading lotto fever.
08:28Oh, good.
08:29My name's Sharon Sharp.
08:31I'm the director of the lottery, and I hope you have good luck.
08:34I'm going to win.
08:35But she's ambushed by a disgruntled constituent, complaining that the lottery doesn't have
08:40enough big winners.
08:41That's because, uh, we do have a lot of winners of five of six, four of six.
08:45I mean, we have thousands of winners that get four or six numbers, hundreds of winners
08:48that get five of six.
08:49But lotto is the game of the big jackpots.
08:52Because you don't know how many winners, I mean, you don't know what combinations people.
08:56The game is not designed to pay out for lots and lots of winners.
09:00It could possibly happen, but it's not designed that way.
09:02What do you mean, what do you mean, design?
09:04That mean, the game has, that's, you mean the game is programmed?
09:07No, the game has odds of one in 13 million to win.
09:09How do you mean design?
09:10Design or program is not the same thing?
09:11Six of 54 is designed to pay.
09:14The odds are one in 13 million.
09:16Vasa, an immigrant from Yugoslavia, is a janitor in a nearby condominium.
09:21If I show you this, okay.
09:23He cannot beat the system, but not for lack of trying.
09:28Over the years, his net loss is $70,000.
09:32I realize I've met a compulsive lottery player.
09:43If I win, I can buy five gallons of glue, of paste, wallpaper paste, and put all over
09:51this apartment, you know, and it'll be the most expensive collage.
09:55Because you can't.
09:57Each piece, that's a dollar.
09:59I don't think that gambling luck go by percentage.
10:03Gambling luck go wherever you go.
10:06You know, not that in this area we're going to give this winner, in that area we're going
10:10to give the winner.
10:11Who's giving that winners?
10:13Who's giving that winners?
10:14Who's in power, in charge of that to say, oh, we have a winner for that area?
10:19Yeah, because people from there, they bet too, you know.
10:24790,000, okay.
10:25But it's not the losers who are on Sharon Sharp's mind.
10:32Okay, he says we're not going to have any trouble reaching the 42 million, and the 24 million
10:37we need, okay.
10:38She's comparing the action of this hour to the very same hour, last February, when her
10:42jackpot was 52 million.
10:44That's the steam index, and it's down.
10:47Okay, if we can maintain the same stream of the 70% over the 52 million, or of the 52 million
10:54dollar drawing last February, we're going to be just a-okay.
10:58I've been around a lot of public servants before, but I've never met one quite like this.
11:04Is she a fun-loving tax collector?
11:05Or it doesn't seem to put a damper on.
11:08Or is she like the flim-flim man?
11:13You can't play the gamble.
11:15No.
11:15Yeah, but you do gamble.
11:17Yes, I do.
11:19Where?
11:19Atlantic City, Las Vegas?
11:21Yeah, but I'm a very low-key, there's a few slots in the video pokers.
11:28You know those games, right?
11:29What is the relationship between those games and the real gambling world and your business?
11:35Not much relationship.
11:38I don't see it anyway.
11:39I mean, the lottery is not the quick fix.
11:41I'm in a slot machine.
11:43It's instant action.
11:45It's quick.
11:46You hear the jangle of change.
11:47Probably the closest thing we have to it is an instant game.
11:49But as far as lotto, no relationship to lotto and gambling.
11:55Yeah, but I mean, in New Jersey, the instant game is called blackjack.
11:59In Michigan, it's called kino.
12:01Sure.
12:01And so you're tapping Las Vegas, right?
12:03And that's why the instant game is a little bit more, because that's when you find out
12:08that you've won right now.
12:10Our other games, you have to either wait until that evening, or you have to wait for a week,
12:13or it's not the quick fix and the heavy churn, the true gambling-ness.
12:21But lottery is gambling, isn't it?
12:24I don't think so.
12:25You don't think so?
12:25No.
12:26You would persist in calling it gaming or wagering?
12:29It may tear out my tongue, and I don't think so.
12:33You don't think what?
12:34It's not gambling.
12:35It's not gambling.
12:35What?
12:36It's entertainment.
12:36My first close encounter with the lottery happened almost a year ago in my home state
12:47of Maryland.
12:48The largest lump sum cash payment in the history of the Maryland State Lottery.
12:56Shirley Adams, you are a millionaire.
13:02Shirley Adams won a million.
13:04The promoters hoped she would be a winner cut from their own commercials.
13:08You haven't thought at all about what you're going to do with it?
13:13You're going to buy a new house, a new car, anything like that?
13:16Take a big trip around the world or something?
13:21What's your job?
13:24What sort of work do you do?
13:26I am wicked and dumb.
13:27But as a performer, she failed, and I was embarrassed for her.
13:41I mean, aside from nervous in terms of getting all this money, what are you going to do with it?
13:46Well, I'm planning on taking me a trip.
13:48A trip?
13:50Vacation.
13:50Vacation.
13:51What else are you going to do with it?
13:53Well, I'm going to help my grandchildren with the education.
13:59Okay.
14:00You're married?
14:01No, I'm divorced.
14:03Divorced.
14:03Okay.
14:04And how many kids do you have?
14:05I have five.
14:06Five kids?
14:07Yeah.
14:08Are they excited too?
14:10Well, they don't know right now.
14:11Oh, they don't know?
14:12You mean you haven't told them?
14:14No.
14:14Why?
14:14I guess I was too excited.
14:17Too excited?
14:18That's just for you to haul them.
14:21Also, what we'll do here, we're going to do this real fast.
14:23We're going to show you a quick roll of black and white in color.
14:25We're going to put in our dollar sign here and have you hold up your check.
14:31These ad men are a whole new breed of state contractors.
14:36I couldn't help wondering if all this was a proper and dignified role for my state government.
14:44We have two checks.
14:45Ooh.
14:46Oh, you won a Maryland State Lottery.
14:49Right.
14:50My goodness.
14:52I know what the state would answer.
14:54The lottery means a million for Shirley and many more millions for health and education programs for the citizens of Maryland.
15:01It's a painless, voluntary tax.
15:03But there are those who say it is also very unfair.
15:07Clarence Davis represents East Baltimore in the Maryland State House.
15:12This is the neighborhood I grew up in.
15:15And we'll go down to the light and make a right.
15:18And then you'll get a good view of the total neighborhood.
15:22The lottery in one form or another has always been part of his life.
15:25But to him, the impersonality of the state lottery is worse than the old numbers racket, and it undercuts the true dreams of black Americans.
15:34You're saying that it was healthier in the old days when you just had the illegal state lottery.
15:40Yeah, it was much healthier.
15:41Why, sir?
15:42Let me tell you why.
15:43If somebody died in the block, the numbers writer became the social worker.
15:51He would put out a couple hundred bucks, and then everybody else would throw in some money.
15:58If there was a tragedy such as a fire or anything, the lottery, people would always take care of business.
16:06Because if there was people in the block who did not have food, then the people who control the numbers or the local numbers writer would always provide the food.
16:15You see, the state is not taking care of people.
16:18The state is taking advantage of people's weakness for gambling.
16:24And it's the same old story.
16:25The wealthy subdivision, they have a better tax base.
16:28But then the lottery comes from my subdivision.
16:31In fact, in the state of Maryland, over two-thirds of the lottery monies come from two subdivisions, Baltimore City and Prince George's County.
16:42And ironically, these are the two heavily black populated areas in the state.
16:50So they are taking the money from us.
16:52Then why not give the money back to us so that we can provide our children with a decent education?
16:58Davis once tried, unsuccessfully, to launch a boycott of the lottery on Martin Luther King Day.
17:05But his own uncle is not boycotting.
17:07I play, yes. I really play.
17:10But you say you play about five bucks or so a day, which toll is that every day to include Sunday?
17:18Yeah.
17:19So that means you're playing about $30 a week.
17:22So more than that.
17:23I'm kind of heavy today.
17:24I pay about $8 a day.
17:26$8 a day?
17:26$7.50, I think.
17:27And everyone believes that he or she can hit the lottery.
17:33And it gives people false hopes, false dreams.
17:36And as my father would say, you know, if you save that money, then how much would you have?
17:43But then my father continues to play.
17:45But then if society says, hey, it's okay, here's an opportunity, it's legal, do it, then the people will do it.
17:53And I think government and society in general should discourage gambling because they should encourage people saving their monies, investing their monies, and preparing for a better life down the line.
18:06But unfortunately, that's not the case in the state of Maryland.
18:10So what would have been so terrible if I had a small fortune?
18:25She had a ho-hum job in the government.
18:51Her chance to get out of all of this had been one in seven million.
18:56I'm from public television.
18:58We did some filming of Shirley Adams when she won the lottery back here in February.
19:04She's left your apartment house, right?
19:08Yes.
19:09When did she leave?
19:12Last year, before Christmas.
19:15Uh-huh.
19:15Yeah.
19:16And where did she go?
19:17Do you know?
19:18I didn't even know she was moving.
19:20But I saw some lights and cameras out there that they could have.
19:23Yeah, right.
19:24And I thought, I didn't see no police.
19:26I said, I wonder what the hell happened upstairs.
19:27And I was telling my niece, but a day later, somebody said she won the lottery.
19:31I said, well, no damn woman she was getting away from here so fast.
19:33Uh-huh.
19:34Didn't tell no by her.
19:35If I were a rich man, all day long I'd be dee-dee-dee-bo.
19:40This is where Shirley bought her winning ticket.
19:44Remember me?
19:45I was here in January looking for Shirley.
19:48Uh-huh.
19:48Yeah?
19:49Yeah?
19:50When we talked to you outside, remember that?
19:53What happened to Shirley?
19:55Uh, from what I understand, she went to, uh, what, I think it was North Carolina.
20:01North Carolina?
20:02Do you know where? We want to find her.
20:04I have no idea. Paul?
20:07Paul?
20:08The rumor has it that she
20:10only took
20:12personal effects and
20:13things of sentimental value and then
20:16told the neighbors, my front door
20:18is open, you can have whatever
20:19you want. I never did find
20:22Shirley Adams, the millionaire.
20:24The rumor has it?
20:32In Illinois, the lotteries
20:35ad executives pay a call on Sharon
20:37Sharp.
20:41This lottery director spends 22
20:43million dollars a year on advertising.
20:47Today she is reviewing a new
20:49campaign.
20:51The first commercial is set in a
20:53laundromat. She's in a laundromat.
20:55Now the laundromat's in a
20:57fairly
20:59nice suburban area, not upscale.
21:02But certainly not downscale
21:03city.
21:04In the laundromat, you
21:07have a lot of time to
21:09think because you're almost
21:11being hypnotized by the dryers going
21:13around and you just sort of have a chance
21:15to wander off. Maybe she checks her
21:17laundry, then she leans back
21:19on the dryers. We come
21:21back to that master shot where
21:23we see her just sitting
21:25there thinking and then we go in for a close
21:27up. Go to the title, The Chance of
21:29a Lifetime. That dissolves
21:31off every week.
21:33Lotto.
21:34The laundromat spots out.
21:36I mean, the laundromat
21:37spots out. They might be in a good
21:38neighborhood, but there's nothing happy about it.
21:40There's no happy laundromat
21:41anywhere. I don't want to portray
21:43Lotto as, you know,
21:45as
21:46laundromats and trash cans. I mean, if I was
21:49going to go anywhere, I mean, I don't
21:51want sailboats and yachts, but I don't want
21:53laundromats and trash cans.
21:54These images do win her
21:58approval. If you have a 23-foot boat,
22:00you want a 25-foot boat.
22:02If you have a 25-foot boat,
22:04you want a 27.
22:06Dream all you want,
22:08but no one ever won Lotto without a ticket.
22:10I would buy a white frame
22:12house with a porch
22:14and plant geraniums along the fence.
22:16If you have a dream, but you don't have a Lotto
22:18ticket, you could be dreaming your life away.
22:20I think the money would help me put me
22:24in a position so that I could accomplish
22:25some of the things I want to do in life.
22:27Lotto's always worth millions.
22:29Hey, isn't your dream with a buck?
22:36Yeah.
22:37Good to see you.
22:38Hi.
22:39Sharon Sharp believes that the lottery must
22:41constantly find new ways to keep the
22:43public interested, or it will wither
22:45away. One of her new ideas
22:48is a television show, sponsored
22:50and produced by the taxpayers.
22:52Backstage, six instant
22:54game winners get ready to compete
22:56for the $100,000 grand prize.
22:58On the little Lotto, I play $5
22:59on Monday, five on Wednesday,
23:02and five on Friday.
23:04And on the Saturday Lotto,
23:06I play $10.
23:07And all life's a gamble.
23:09I've got a mother that
23:11is going to be
23:1489, lives by herself,
23:16drinks it probably
23:18six to 12 cans of beer a day.
23:23And she's fortunate to be alive,
23:25but she is.
23:26My husband's going to have surgery
23:28the first week in June.
23:30He's got to have some heart surgery.
23:32And, uh, I would buy something
23:36for my kids.
23:38The day that I bought the ticket,
23:40well, the day that I bought it,
23:41I was just stopped in the store
23:43with a friend.
23:44And so he told me to,
23:46why don't you try a few of these tickets?
23:48So I bought five tickets,
23:49and out of the five,
23:50one had three TVs.
23:52I haven't been able to sleep much
23:54or eat much,
23:56because now it's a reality.
23:57That's bigger than life.
24:01The dream is here.
24:02The dream is here.
24:05So now I'm ready.
24:06Go get this $100,000.
24:08Pick four.
24:09It's the instant game
24:10that's also your favorite
24:11TV game show.
24:12Where one of these
24:13six lucky instant game players
24:15will win the largest
24:16guaranteed weekly prize
24:18in all of television.
24:19Hi, sir.
24:20How are ya?
24:21Hello to you two,
24:22and welcome to the new
24:24$100,000 fortune hunt,
24:26where tonight,
24:27we will be giving away
24:28huge cash awards.
24:30A car, ladies and gentlemen.
24:32A car, a decision.
24:33Maria, if we keep
24:34stressing you out,
24:35you won't make the thing.
24:36So, you've got a decision to make.
24:37You are currently
24:38our leader with $1,700.
24:39You can keep the money
24:40and stay in play
24:41and pick another square,
24:42or you can take
24:42the beautiful automobile
24:43with our congratulations.
24:44What's it going to be?
24:45What should she do, audience?
24:49No, I don't take the car.
24:53No, I don't care.
24:54I'll stay with this.
24:55$600, $2,500 for you.
24:58Meaning, Marie, we love you.
25:00You've just won.
25:01$100,000.
25:02Oh, my God.
25:04Come on out here.
25:05Thank you for that.
25:08You are doing well
25:09the whole game.
25:10Let me introduce you
25:11to the director
25:11of the Illinois Lottery,
25:12Sharon Sharp.
25:14Marie, congratulations.
25:16We're so happy
25:17for the Illinois Lottery
25:18to you.
25:19We started exploring
25:20the idea of doing
25:21at-home play
25:23over the telephone.
25:24We're not quite ready
25:25for it yet,
25:26but in a couple of years,
25:27all lotteries
25:28will have television shows,
25:29my prediction.
25:30All lotteries
25:31will have television shows
25:32where a person
25:33simply using their phone
25:34at home
25:34will be able to call
25:36and participate
25:36in the game show.
25:37In the past 20 years,
25:47a vibrant industry
25:48has grown up
25:48around state lotteries.
25:52Mathematicians
25:53and computer wizards
25:54joined electronic engineers
25:56to design and build
25:57the systems
25:58that connect
25:59the vendor terminal
26:00to the state's
26:01central computer.
26:07But the technology
26:08is already in place
26:09to eliminate
26:10the annoying trip
26:11to buy a ticket.
26:12The promise of the future
26:14is the lottery
26:15in your own living room
26:16on your own television set.
26:32With state governors
26:33for clients,
26:34industry executives
26:35like G-Tech's
26:36Victor Markovits,
26:37operate under
26:38a constant cloud
26:39of suspicion.
26:40I have never been arrested
26:41and I had finger,
26:43I was fingerprinted
26:44probably a hundred times.
26:45Really?
26:46Some states require
26:47frequent FBI checks
26:48on company executives.
26:50You have to have
26:51clean hands
26:52to be in this business.
26:54These companies
26:55supply much more
26:56than hardware.
26:57They are also
26:58the chief strategists
26:59for state lotteries.
27:01They will sell,
27:02say, another...
27:04This day,
27:04the problem is a state
27:06which has an excess
27:07of 30 million
27:08in lottery revenue
27:09and wants to double
27:10its money
27:11by inventing
27:12a new one-time game
27:13with a big jackpot.
27:16Markovits and his staff
27:17kick the problem around.
27:18The people in this industry
27:30insist on calling
27:31what they do
27:31gaming or wagering,
27:34trying to remove
27:35the old moral taint
27:36of gambling.
27:37who does it go to?
27:39Lottery is not a gambling.
27:41Because in lottery,
27:43lottery is not even
27:44entertainment.
27:46You buy a ticket,
27:46there's nothing exciting
27:47to buy a ticket,
27:48then you wait for the drawing
27:49and then there is a drawing
27:50and you probably will be loser
27:51so there is nothing exciting
27:53about the drawing.
27:54However,
27:54the excitement is between...
27:56You have all the excitement
27:58during the time
27:59between you bought the ticket
28:00and you lost
28:01at the drawing.
28:02And then you can imagine
28:03what would you do
28:04if you won.
28:05I mean,
28:06you're spending your money
28:07in the imagination.
28:08No board.
28:09Four, five, six, seven.
28:11So I'll discard jack,
28:13press the deal button,
28:16and I got a pair of fives
28:19and I've lost.
28:20Call it gaming
28:21or call it gambling,
28:23it's all the same to me.
28:24In one form,
28:25the state cloaks it
28:26with an aura of civic good.
28:28In another form,
28:30it's a job for the vice squad.
28:32In some parts of the country,
28:36video poker machines
28:37like these
28:37are seized as contraband.
28:40In other areas,
28:41the same machines
28:42are permitted and licensed.
28:46Here in Baltimore County,
28:48a judge has sentenced to death
28:4930 machines.
28:51They cost up to $4,000
28:53and can gross $50,000
28:55a year for the owner.
28:58Experts consider video machines
29:00to be a highly addictive
29:02form of gambling.
29:04Yet some states think
29:05they are the cutting edge
29:07of lottery.
29:08South Dakota and Montana,
29:09for example,
29:10use these very machines
29:12as one of their lottery games.
29:15What is the limit
29:16of state involvement
29:17in an activity
29:18that was once
29:19a highly immoral
29:21and carefully restricted
29:22private enterprise?
29:25Where should lines be drawn
29:27and who will draw them?
29:29And what is the future?
29:32Floating state casinos
29:33on the Mississippi?
29:35Or betting parlors
29:36in the mezzanines
29:37of baseball parks?
29:44Sports lottery is next.
29:47Oregon already has it.
29:49Illinois thinks
29:49it can do it a lot better.
29:51At Comiskey Park,
29:53Sharon Sharp paints her vision
29:55of how her lottery
29:56might entertain
29:57baseball fans.
29:58It would be football.
30:00Tonight it would be
30:02the Saks, Yankees,
30:04three points.
30:07Which means that
30:08the Saks would beat
30:09the Yankees
30:10by three runs
30:11and you would win.
30:16Professional sports
30:17to me is fun.
30:18But the future
30:21of sports lotteries
30:22may be decided
30:23here in Washington.
30:25Senator Dennis DeConcini
30:26is worried
30:26that the bet
30:28will become more important
30:29than the contest
30:29and the integrity
30:31of our national games
30:32will be undermined
30:33by an official sports lottery.
30:38In this hearing,
30:40players and officials
30:41of the NFL
30:42and Major League Baseball
30:43testify for
30:44DeConcini's bill
30:45which would outlaw
30:46that we can look
30:48forward to continuing
30:49having kids
30:50who will be collecting
30:51these football cards
30:54and baseball cards
30:55rather than kids
30:55growing up
30:56collecting lottery tickets.
30:58So I would encourage you
30:59with all my heart
31:00to prevent sports
31:03being sanctioned
31:04as an institutional
31:05form for gambling.
31:07The point spread
31:08and the number
31:09of runs scored
31:10may overshadow
31:11the game's outcome
31:12and the intricacies
31:13of play.
31:14Oregon's lottery director
31:17is under fire
31:17for his state's
31:18sports action lottery.
31:21I don't think
31:22we've heard anything new.
31:23You know,
31:24Jim Davey
31:25isn't going to suffer here
31:26if this passes
31:27Oregon athletes,
31:29Oregon's economy.
31:31He's going to be
31:31the ultimate loser here.
31:33Aren't you trying
31:34to build support
31:35behind a bill here?
31:36Sure, sure.
31:36But on the other hand
31:38if you don't show
31:39some objectiveness
31:40you know,
31:41I could hold the hearing
31:42and I don't have to call
31:43Oregon at all.
31:44I couldn't deny
31:46Packwood
31:46but I could keep
31:47the Oregon lottery guy
31:49from coming.
31:50In October,
31:51Senator DeConcini's bill
31:52died in a House
31:53Senate conference committee.
31:55He says he'll try again.
31:57This summer
32:01in Illinois
32:01the state legislature
32:03defeated Sharon Sharpe's
32:04bid for a sports lottery
32:06despite Governor
32:07Jim Thompson's
32:08strong support.
32:11The commissioners
32:12of the league
32:12say this would
32:13destroy the integrity
32:14of baseball
32:16and other great institutions.
32:17Then what they ought to do
32:18is go to Congress
32:19to get a bill
32:20that would outlaw
32:21Las Vegas.
32:23I mean,
32:23where billions of dollars
32:24are wagered legally
32:26in Las Vegas
32:27and the commissioners
32:29get Congress
32:30to introduce a bill
32:31that would wipe out
32:32state sports lotteries
32:34of which there's
32:34only one tiny Oregon
32:35and exempt Las Vegas
32:38is hypocritical.
32:39All the stuff
32:40about why
32:41you shouldn't have
32:42a sports lottery,
32:43all of the
32:44game fixing,
32:45point shaving,
32:47it will ruin
32:49the fans' thrill
32:50of sports,
32:50that's all a bunch
32:51of hooey.
32:52I mean,
32:52there is absolutely
32:53no validity
32:54in that at all.
32:55Are you going to tell me
32:55that the average
32:56British soccer fan
32:57has lost interest
32:58in his team
32:59because he can walk
33:00into a local bookmaker
33:01and put down
33:02as much money
33:02as he wants?
33:03Here in Illinois,
33:04there were a couple
33:05basic issues.
33:06One,
33:07it's an electioneer.
33:09And when you're
33:10in an electioneer
33:11and you're an incumbent,
33:12you really would rather
33:14not have your opponent
33:15out there saying,
33:15ah,
33:16this legislator
33:17is for gambling.
33:18Political leaders
33:19and taxpayers
33:20scramble
33:21to avoid
33:22extra burdens
33:23of state-imposed
33:24taxation.
33:26More and more states
33:26that don't have
33:27lottery now
33:27will look to lottery
33:28as a voluntary tax.
33:31It's the fourth largest
33:32revenue source
33:33in Illinois
33:33after income sales
33:35and utility taxes.
33:36It brought in
33:37over a half a billion dollars
33:38to our school funds
33:39last year.
33:40Did you play the lottery?
33:41Do you play it personally?
33:42When the jackpot
33:42gets up to 25,
33:4430,
33:4435 million,
33:45then they'll
33:46lure me into.
33:47And if you won?
33:48And if I won?
33:50It's,
33:51uh,
33:51hello, George.
33:52He's the lieutenant governor.
33:55It is Saturday night.
33:59In one hour,
34:00the Illinois state lottery
34:01will draw the numbers
34:02for the third biggest
34:03jackpot in its history,
34:0542 million dollars.
34:08Two separate accounting firms
34:10are hired
34:10to watch the process
34:11and each other.
34:17everyone that enters the room,
34:30including the three of you,
34:31have to,
34:32you all have to sign in.
34:34One major scandal
34:47clouds lottery history.
34:48One night in 1981
34:50in Pennsylvania,
34:52almost all the lotto balls
34:53were injected with fluid,
34:55all except the sixes,
34:57which then rose to the chute.
34:59And the second digit.
35:01A studio announcer
35:02was the kingpin
35:03of the conspiracy.
35:08Six,
35:08and now the third digit.
35:10This FBI tape
35:11shows how the injected
35:12ball number four
35:13could not rise to the top.
35:20The Pennsylvania scandal
35:22tightens security procedures
35:24throughout lottery land.
35:32In Chicago,
35:39they will first play lottery
35:40to decide which set of balls
35:42and which machines
35:43will be used
35:44in tonight's drawing.
35:52Right now,
35:53he is selecting,
35:54putting in the balls
35:55that will ultimately
35:56select the equipment.
35:57Four number eight,
35:59number nine,
36:01Because states
36:03were so paranoid
36:04about fraud,
36:05the first generation
36:06of lottery directors
36:07came from law enforcement.
36:09Okay,
36:10we're not going to select
36:11machines for the daily game.
36:19But with the new promoters
36:21like Sharon Sharp,
36:23security remains vital.
36:25Number ten.
36:26Three, two, nine, ten,
36:27nineteen, twelve, six, one.
36:29Correct?
36:30Correct.
36:31Two, three, ten.
36:38Each of these machines
36:59will be tested
37:00to find out
37:01if any ball comes up
37:03more than any other ball,
37:04if any of the balls
37:06don't look like...
37:07Yeah, this is to test
37:08not only the operation
37:10of the equipment,
37:11but the movement
37:12of the balls.
37:20Number three
37:20has come up four times
37:22in the test.
37:23The three ball
37:24in the middle machine
37:25came up four times
37:26in the test.
37:27One of the machines
37:28is replaced.
37:29nine, eight, seven, six, five,
37:32four, three, two, one, zero.
37:34Nine, eight, seven, six,
37:35five, four, three, two, seven.
37:38And one more.
37:38Keep going.
37:39We'll go back.
37:4121, 15, nine.
37:44If there is no winner tonight,
37:55the jackpot will more than double
37:57as many more players
37:59are lured to the game.
38:00Next week,
38:01it could reach
38:02a hundred million.
38:04It's a chance
38:04for Sharon Sharp
38:05to set a new Illinois record.
38:08Now, here are
38:09this week's winning
38:10lotto numbers.
38:11The first number is
38:1237, 37.
38:14The second number is
38:1551, 51.
38:17The third number is
38:1850, 50.
38:20The fourth number is
38:2141, 41.
38:23The fifth number is
38:2549, 49.
38:26Two consecutives.
38:2749 and 50.
38:29And 51.
38:30Three consecutives.
38:31One, nothing in between.
38:34I mean, if any,
38:35any combination
38:36could be a roll,
38:37that could be it.
38:3941, 41.
38:39But the coverage
38:40is too high
38:41and I don't think
38:41it will happen.
38:4249 and one.
38:44Certainly an unusual
38:45combination of numbers.
38:46Pick four drawings
38:46and Monday
38:47for Little Model.
38:49We'll see about
38:49four or five winners
38:50probably, yeah.
38:5995% of the number
39:01combinations are covered.
39:03For the individual player,
39:04the chance of winning
39:05is one in 13 million.
39:09Hi, Sue.
39:24Sharon Sharp.
39:26Okay, have you gone
39:26through the system yet?
39:28Do we have a winner?
39:30One winner?
39:32One winner.
39:34Son of a gun.
39:36Quick, quick pick.
39:42Okay.
39:45Where from?
39:47Where from?
39:49Okay.
39:50All right.
39:51What were total sales?
39:52What were total sales?
39:52God, we did better
40:05than we thought.
40:06It's going to pay up.
40:07That's super.
40:09That included, Vance.
40:12Okay, everything.
40:15One winner.
40:18One.
40:19Ah, okay.
40:26Okay, I'll be in touch.
40:29Bye-bye.
40:31Somebody just won
40:3242 million dollars.
40:35I got a better chance
40:36of being struck by lightning.
40:38One ticket, please.
40:40There is one part of America
40:46that so far has resisted
40:47lotto fever.
40:49It is the South.
40:51Here in Mississippi,
40:51there is no lottery,
40:53but the state's progressive
40:54governor badly wants one.
40:58Only through the millions
40:59from official gambling
41:00does he see a way
41:01to fund his expensive
41:02education proposals.
41:05Governor Ray Mabus
41:06won't see me.
41:07He's for the lottery,
41:08but he doesn't want
41:09to advertise it.
41:11He wants to be known
41:12as the governor
41:13for education,
41:14not the governor
41:15for gambling.
41:17I support your right
41:18to express at the polls
41:20your views on the lottery
41:21as a voluntary way
41:22to raise money.
41:24Let's put this issue
41:25to rest once and for all.
41:27I know that we will make
41:28this new decade
41:29and this new century
41:31to come
41:31Mississippi's best.
41:33He calls a special session
41:37of the state legislature
41:38as a last desperate attempt
41:40to pass his lottery package.
41:43State legislatures
41:45are launched
41:45into a constitutional debate.
41:48In the late 19th century,
41:49there was massive fraud
41:51in a Louisiana lottery,
41:53which led to a constitutional ban
41:54on lotteries
41:55throughout the South.
41:57Other forms of gambling
41:58constitute a lottery.
42:00The governor believes
42:02if he can get the issue
42:03to a vote of the people,
42:05he will win.
42:05Before we pass anything
42:06authorizing a gaming commission.
42:09Quite a few problems
42:10that are independent.
42:13But he will need
42:14a two-thirds majority
42:15to allow a referendum
42:16several times before
42:18the legislators
42:19have rebuffed him.
42:20We're trying to decide
42:21whether or not
42:21we're getting the cart
42:22before the horse
42:23or the horse
42:24before the cart
42:24but passing this bill
42:25before we get
42:26a constitutional amendment passed.
42:27Will it change
42:28the face of Mississippi?
42:29Yes.
42:30It will definitely
42:30change the face
42:31of Mississippi.
42:32And there are a few
42:33of us who would say
42:34hallelujah.
42:34It's time to change
42:36the face of Mississippi.
42:37Clay Cooley is lobbying
42:38for the lottery.
42:40My mother was a librarian
42:42at a university
42:45in Jackson.
42:47The most money
42:48she ever earned
42:48in her entire life
42:49was $5,400.
42:50This is a struggling economy.
42:53It is for most people.
42:54There are people
42:54that are entrepreneurial
42:55that will do quite well
42:57in life no matter
42:58where they were
42:58including Mississippi
43:00or somewhere else.
43:01But we're talking
43:01about the mainstream
43:02of Mississippi
43:03is very poor
43:04and we have to do
43:06something to create
43:07jobs and substantial
43:08jobs for those people
43:10in regards to their
43:11current educational levels.
43:13And lottery
43:14and gambling
43:15and those things
43:16that come with gambling
43:17whether they are
43:18building of restaurants
43:19or building of hotels
43:20or dealing blackjack
43:21or roulette
43:21are all related
43:22and they're all significant
43:24in my opinion
43:24to the immediate growth
43:25of Mississippi.
43:25You have the state
43:28in the position
43:29of going out
43:29and promoting
43:30a social ill.
43:31Senator Hobb Bryant
43:32is against lotteries.
43:34A lot of things
43:34that government
43:34legalizes
43:36or doesn't make it legal
43:38cigarettes, whiskey,
43:39a lot of things
43:41and I think government
43:42generally takes a position
43:43well people are going
43:44to have these things
43:47so we might as well
43:48legalize it
43:49and of course
43:49being government
43:50we'll tax it
43:50in the process.
43:52But unlike anything
43:53like that
43:54with the lotteries
43:55you have the government
43:56out promoting gambling
43:57you have the government
43:58encouraging its citizens
44:00to gamble
44:00and I don't think
44:01that's a proper role
44:02of government.
44:03Good morning governor
44:04how are you?
44:05Attorney General Mike Moore
44:06is a close friend
44:07of the governor.
44:08We just busted a casino
44:10in Indianola
44:11another one
44:12in the northwest
44:12part of the state.
44:14You have people
44:14betting on football games
44:16you have Mississippi
44:16State University
44:18up there
44:18with a big
44:19gambling pool up there
44:20all kinds of gambling
44:22and all over our state
44:23and the outcry
44:24doesn't come then
44:25the outcry comes
44:27when somebody says
44:28it's wrong
44:29let's either legalize it
44:30or let's enforce
44:31the law very strictly
44:33and so that's where
44:34I get involved
44:34is I hate that hypocrisy
44:36as a chief legal officer
44:37of the state
44:38I have to enforce the law
44:39and I'm going to
44:40I'll tell you
44:41if the legislature
44:42doesn't do something
44:43to legalize
44:44and regulate
44:45and tax gambling
44:46then I'm going to enforce
44:47every single gambling law
44:49in the state of Mississippi
44:50and we'll see
44:51if they like that.
44:55Bingo is a treasured
44:56institution in Dixieland
44:58but what is bingo?
44:59Fast run!
45:01Last summer
45:01the Attorney General
45:02took this question
45:03to court
45:04and got a shocking answer
45:05Bingo is a lottery
45:07in the battle
45:09over the gambling package
45:10it is the answer
45:11the Attorney General wanted
45:12he sees a political benefit
45:15for the governor
45:15They brought about
45:1630 or 40 policemen
45:17in here
45:18told everybody
45:18to go home
45:19and shut the place down
45:21they then dismantled
45:23the building
45:24and took all the equipment
45:25out of the building
45:25and all of the equipment
45:28and seized all the money
45:29that were in our bank accounts
45:30and that was in the building
45:32They just walked in
45:33and asked everybody
45:35to leave
45:35and they just closed it
45:37Did they make you feel
45:38like you were a criminal?
45:40Almost, yes
45:41The strategy seems clear
45:42closing the bingo halls
45:45will produce an outcry
45:46The legislators will get the message
45:48and the lottery bill will pass
45:50It's the same in the stock market
45:52It's the same in anything
45:53If you take those three elements
45:54almost everything is a lottery
45:56It's a sport
45:57It's a social event
45:58It can be classified as gambling
46:00I mean, what can you say?
46:03The stock market is gambling
46:04The stock market has the same three ingredients
46:06price, consideration, and chance
46:07You pay money
46:09for a chance to increase your money
46:11The courts have permitted
46:13Mississippi's bingo halls
46:15to remain open
46:16until the legislature
46:17resolves the issue
46:18In Hattiesburg
46:25the Temple Baptist Church
46:27is a bastion of opposition
46:28to the governor's lottery proposal
46:30The chief lobbyist
46:34for the Mississippi Baptist Convention
46:36Reverend Paul Jones
46:37comes to deliver the message
46:39Many of the critics
46:41of those who oppose the lottery
46:43seem to assume, I guess
46:45that the ethical system
46:46of the Christian
46:47is limited to the words of law
46:49and excludes the principles
46:50of justice, righteousness, and kindness
46:53which are a continuing thread
46:55throughout the biblical revelation
46:57Gambling mocks works
46:59finances crime
47:00robs children
47:01enslaves addicts
47:02and subverts governments
47:04One writer suggests even
47:05that gambling was a contract
47:08between the government
47:09and its people
47:10No other division
47:12department
47:13or section
47:13of state government
47:14is constructed
47:15to make losers
47:16out of its people
47:17You've got to make losers
47:19to have winners
47:20It's the only department
47:22or division
47:22of state government
47:23that will work that way
47:24100% of the folks
47:26that pay taxes
47:26lose the money
47:27that they have to pay in taxes
47:28The next day
47:28now a political lobbyist
47:30Reverend Jones argues
47:32with Senator Vic Frankowitz
47:33a lottery supporter
47:35Oh!
47:36Oh, I think on the whole
47:37that's a whole different subject
47:38I think on the whole
47:39we are losing
47:39when we pay taxes
47:40because we're not getting
47:40our money's worth
47:41from what we're paying right now
47:42That's a different subject
47:43If folks want to gamble
47:46I mean, it's their private choice
47:47and their free choice
47:48There's nothing that the state
47:49is forcing them into
47:49And I don't see any
47:51big philosophical problems
47:52And the spouses
47:53who don't have the money
47:55because one of the adults
47:57in the family
47:58have gone out
47:58and spent the money
47:59And it's not there for food
48:00It's not there for clothes
48:01So there are secondary people
48:03who are affected
48:03How is that different
48:04from what a family
48:05might spend on football games
48:07or televisions
48:07or VCRs
48:08or video equipment
48:09or playing golf
48:09or going fishing
48:10or boating or hunting?
48:12Listen to them
48:13pleading for better education
48:14an education
48:15that is equal
48:16to any in the world
48:17Listen to them
48:19crying out
48:19for a government
48:20that operates better
48:22and one that doesn't
48:23go deeper into their pockets
48:24every time it starts
48:25a new program
48:26Listen to them
48:27asking for the right to vote
48:29Listen to them
48:31demanding a government
48:32that acts decisively
48:33and with foresight
48:34Listen
48:35to the people of Mississippi
48:37The legislators
48:39do not listen
48:40They reject
48:42the gambling package again
48:43But this September
48:45in Georgia
48:46a gubernatorial candidate
48:47won on a pro-lottery platform
48:49And in October
48:51the people of Louisiana
48:52voted 2 to 1
48:54for a lottery
48:54In the South
48:56the barricades
48:57are falling
48:58In Chicago
49:02two weeks have passed
49:03and still the winner
49:04of the $42 million
49:05jackpot
49:06has not stepped forward
49:07First, I think
49:12right now
49:13with $42 million
49:13the perfect winner
49:14would be a pool
49:15a pool of workers
49:17somewhere
49:18so that many families
49:19would share
49:20After a pool
49:21I'd kind of like
49:22one heck of a
49:23deserving family
49:24If Donald Trump won
49:26we obviously
49:27would not have
49:28a very good story
49:30because everybody
49:30would be very resentful
49:31Attention shoppers
49:35CB's Foods
49:35Villa Park
49:36has just been notified
49:37that we sold
49:38the $42 million
49:39winning Illinois
49:41lottery ticket
49:41I'm only good
49:43father
49:43The owners
49:44of a grocery chain
49:45in a Chicago suburb
49:46won the vendor's prize
49:48$420,000
49:501%
49:51of the $42 million
49:52I have no wants
49:54I really have no wants
49:55I just have no wants
49:56I just have no needs
49:58This is an added bonus
50:01of course
50:01but
50:01I have no needs
50:04out of life
50:05How about you Roy?
50:07My wife is great to me
50:08and
50:08we have a good marriage
50:10My kids are good
50:11They work hard
50:12and
50:14we just don't need
50:16anything else
50:16When I go to buy
50:18the ticket
50:19I never know
50:20just how I'll pick it
50:21I'm just hoping to be
50:23the next lotto millionaire
50:24They are on their way
50:26to meet the jackpot winner
50:27I've been married
50:3043 years
50:31You want to get
50:32that little bit in there?
50:33Right
50:33He is a retired
50:35Chicago carpenter
50:36Edward Sherwin
50:37How did you meet
50:38Pete Delaney?
50:39Oh, you'd be surprised
50:40at a Polish day
50:41outdoor picnic
50:42Everybody
50:44Oh, that's good
50:45They're five grown children
50:49will share the prize
50:50with them
50:50For years
50:51this family has acted
50:53as a co-op
50:53buying lottery tickets
50:55together
50:55These are the kind of
50:57winners lottery directors
50:59dream about
51:00This is it
51:03One night
51:13I get home
51:14from the day's rat race
51:15My little girl
51:16comes up
51:16with a smile
51:17on her face
51:18and says
51:18Daddy, we picked
51:19all six numbers right
51:21Well, now we've got
51:22a Mercedes
51:23I think they're a great group
51:24They're relaxed
51:25and fun
51:26It's a nice one
51:27How did you pick
51:37the numbers?
51:37What did the numbers mean?
51:39Quick pick
51:39Do you play regularly?
51:41Every week
51:41Tell us really
51:42the truth here
51:43Your wildest dream
51:44What do you want
51:45to do with the money?
51:46What kind of feeling
51:47is it for a father
51:48to be able to give
51:49a son or a daughter
51:50six million dollars
51:51and to set them up
51:52for life like that?
51:53Mr. Sherman
51:54Before you won
51:56this ticket
51:57what was your biggest
51:58realistic dream
52:00in life?
52:02All I've ever asked
52:04was to be left alone
52:05and be left comfortably
52:06We retired
52:07and we're waiting
52:08for the gold to come
52:11and finally it's king
52:12In America
52:13we do not have kings
52:15nor queens
52:16nor even dukes
52:17What we have
52:18is something
52:19far more democratic
52:20It's called
52:21Super Lotto
52:22and it gives
52:23each individual
52:24the chance
52:24for untold wealth
52:26So play Super Lotto
52:27because even though
52:29you can't be born
52:29a king
52:30no one ever said
52:31you can't live
52:32like one
52:33All I did was
52:34pick six numbers
52:35Who can figure?
52:37Hi, how you doing?
52:38Welcome to the
52:38Millionaire's Review
52:39Are you enjoying
52:40the money?
52:41In our democracy
52:41the state has now
52:43created a new nobility
52:44These are the kings
52:49queens and dukes
52:50of the lottery
52:51And this is the
52:57annual gathering
52:58of the royal court
52:59240 Illinois millionaires
53:02worth over 2 billion dollars
53:04Are you enjoying
53:05your money?
53:065 billion
53:06Not bad
53:07Not bad
53:08Are you enjoying
53:09your money?
53:09How much?
53:10Nice seeing you
53:13You both look well
53:14Thank you
53:15How much did you win here?
53:1710.1
53:1810.1 million
53:20We have here
53:211.2 million
53:22Not bad
53:23How's your
53:24$2 million
53:25coming?
53:26Good
53:26Okay
53:27It's looking good
53:28Thank you
53:30Son of a gun
53:31I'm all right
53:32Kathy
53:32Nice to meet you
53:33Come on in
53:34How much did you win?
53:35How many millions?
53:368 million
53:378 million
53:38Are you okay on it?
53:40Oh yeah
53:40I'll survive
53:41Where's the bar?
53:42The lottery gamble
53:43has been woven
53:44into the social fabric
53:45In this gamble
53:46the house wins
53:47every time
53:48taking 40 cents
53:49of every lotto dollar
53:50Oh good
53:52I mean you are
53:52kind of the cutest
53:53winners we've had
53:54Boy
53:54I'll tell you
53:55Thanks
53:55What's that 25 million
54:00doing?
54:01Oh it's good
54:01Oh good
54:02For the players
54:03it is a bad bet
54:05Oh yes
54:05Wasn't it awesome?
54:07With impossible odds
54:08that are rarely advertised
54:09There are millions
54:11who will never march
54:12in this procession
54:13I'm not sure now
54:16that I'm ever going to
54:17have a job
54:18that I love more
54:19than this one
54:19Where else
54:20can you be on a
54:21shipload
54:21with 240 millionaires
54:23each with a story
54:24with all the attention
54:25all the gratification
54:27the only thing
54:28that would be fun
54:28is winning
54:28the darn money yourself
54:29Some of you
54:30Saturday winners
54:31who only won
54:321 million dollars
54:34The Illinois lottery
54:35needs more steam
54:36Sharon Sharp introduces
54:39a new idea
54:40From now on
54:41the big lotto
54:43will be played
54:43not once a week
54:45but twice
54:46I want a Congo line
54:48okay
54:48For richer for poorer
55:06we have made a commitment
55:07to the lottery
55:08Instead of making hard choices
55:10about social programs
55:11and taxes
55:12we have let our politicians
55:13use the lottery
55:14to pick up the tab
55:15Last year alone
55:20Americans bought
55:2120 billion dollars
55:22worth of lottery tickets
55:24Good luck
55:28from the Illinois lottery
55:29It's expensive
55:31to dream
55:31in the America
55:32of the 90s
55:33To win millions of bucks
55:34To try out your looks
55:36Two times
55:37To make your dreams
55:38come true
55:39We dream
55:40A second chance
55:41to see fortune
55:42smile on you
55:43With the but
55:48girls
55:49a
55:50black
55:56up
55:57I
55:58saw
55:58a
56:00a
56:01triste
56:02who
56:02saw
56:02and
56:04that
56:04they
56:06had
56:06any
56:06they
56:07came
56:07of
56:07there
56:08to see
56:09the
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57:37And if we blink, we could stand to lose that way of life.
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