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During a House Natural Resources Committee hearing before the Congressional recess, Rep. Addison McDowell (R-NC) asked spoke about conservation.
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00:00The chair now calls upon Mr. McDowell for five minutes of questions.
00:04Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you, Mr. Shirley, for being here to testify before the committee today.
00:11Fishing and hunting have long been vital pillars of North Carolina's economy and our heritage
00:17and providing good-paying jobs, supporting rural communities, and fueling billions of dollars in economic activity.
00:25But today, hardworking fishermen and hunters face growing obstacles from excessive, expensive regulations
00:34that are imposed by federal laws like the Endangered Species Act and like the Marine Mammal Protection Act.
00:40And too often, they get in the way of common sense management,
00:44and they threaten the livelihoods of those who rely on the great outdoors.
00:49And so while conservation is important, especially to me,
00:55I've volunteered tons of time to work with groups like Delta Waterfowl and Ducks Unlimited,
01:01and I believe in conservation, I truly do.
01:05But it must never come at the expense of our traditions or economic freedom,
01:10especially when hunters and fishermen have a better track record of conservation than maybe anyone.
01:17And so we must ensure that these regulations are fair, that they are practical,
01:23and they don't undermine the ability of local groups to responsibly manage their own natural resources.
01:30And so overreach from federal agencies, it too often results in needless delays, job losses,
01:37restrictions that hurt both families and businesses.
01:40And so I hope that you are committed and I am committed to focusing on reducing unnecessary regulatory burdens
01:49from the ESA, from the MMPA, and streamlining permitting processes and giving fishermen and hunters
01:57the freedom to innovate and to grow and to enjoy the great outdoors.
02:01And so when we empower local stewards and when we respect proven conservation,
02:08the tools that we already know work, like the Pittman-Robertson Act,
02:12we can secure a thriving, sustainable outdoor economy that preserves our hunting, our fishing, and all of our traditions.
02:20And we want to do that for generations to come.
02:22And so I want to thank you for being here today to testify.
02:25I love the tie, by the way.
02:27But how do you believe that the threat of litigation impacts the service's decision-making processes?
02:37If I can quickly respond to your initial comments there.
02:42One of the coolest things I've got to do, if cool is here,
02:46was be with the secretary when he bought the first duck stamp of the year.
02:51I've been buying a duck stamp since I was 16.
02:53That's awesome.
02:54I've been hunting waterfowl since I was 12.
02:57And that's truly a success that I think points to what you're at.
03:01So hopefully everyone on this committee has a duck stamp or will get there soon.
03:05But because the program is amazing in what it's been able to do.
03:10And the other thing I'll mention is I went to Roosevelt Island over the weekend.
03:15Don't have a car out here, right?
03:17So I just wing it by the train and I went to Roosevelt Island.
03:20And again, it's just a constant reminder of how lucky we are to have the resources in this country
03:27and the role that hunters and anglers have played and paved the way for us to continue to have the resources that we do.
03:36And it takes all of us and whether you're engaged at a hunting or fishing level or a bird watching or whatever level it may be,
03:45but supporting our natural resources is where we need to be.
03:48I don't think that's me, but no.
03:52You're good.
03:53Okay.
03:54So your question on the litigation piece, it is very hard, I think, for the service to work under.
04:03A lot of that, again, is based on timeline.
04:06And that's not new to where we currently are.
04:11That's been an ongoing struggle for years and something that we need to figure out.
04:16Does the service recognize that, as written, the ESA has turned into a money-making mechanism for radical environmental groups
04:24that are hell-bent on stopping anything from new infrastructure projects to military-based operations to laundry lists of other things?
04:32Again, the citizen suit that's involved in ESA is a place that we should be able to welcome that input and feedback
04:41and whatever it deals with, but currently it is a workload and a process that has stymied the service
04:50and being able to get our mission-critical stuff done under ESA.
04:54Do you believe that it's important for the American people to know how much the federal government is paying out
05:00on the legal fees to these environmentalists?
05:03Sure.
05:03I think that that's something that should be provided.
05:06I'm not exactly sure how the service would work through doing that,
05:09but it seems like that would be a great place to start.
05:12Great.
05:12Thank you, Madam Chair.
05:13I yield back.
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