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00:14The EU wants to review its climate law
00:16which aims to tackle a central crisis
00:18of our time, global warming.
00:22The European Commission has just proposed
00:24reducing pollutant emissions by 90%
00:26by 2040 compared
00:28to 1990 levels in order
00:30for the bloc to reach climate neutrality
00:32by mid-century.
00:34Now, intense negotiations with the
00:36European Council and European Parliament
00:38are expected.
00:40EU Decoded asks how we can reconcile
00:42the need for economic growth with the
00:44fight against climate change.
00:46The sectors that cause the most greenhouse gas emissions
00:48are industry, energy production,
00:50transportation, agriculture
00:52and housing.
00:54The new proposal in the climate law should
00:56bridge the gap between the 2030 target
00:58to reduce polluting gases by 55%
01:00and the aim to achieve
01:02net-zero pollution by 2050.
01:04In other words, by mid-century,
01:06emissions from economic activity
01:08should not contribute to global warming.
01:10This is what was pledged
01:12in the 2015 Paris Agreement
01:14which establishes that the planet's
01:16average temperature should not exceed
01:181.5 degrees Celsius compared
01:20to the levels at the beginning of the
01:22industrial revolution in the early 20th century.
01:24Scientific studies show that over the last century
01:28global warming has caused an increase
01:30in heatwaves, droughts, floods
01:32and loss of biodiversity.
01:34But what do EU citizens actually
01:36think of this proposed review of the
01:38EU's climate law?
01:40I don't think it's the most important
01:42in life.
01:43I think there are other things
01:44that are very important
01:46such as the environment.
01:50They should invest more in different
01:51or in new strategies
01:53to reduce the pollution.
01:57The EU needs to do nothing more
01:59if the others do nothing.
02:00Look at America,
02:01look at what's going on there,
02:02look at India,
02:03look at China,
02:04and let us in the EU
02:06just leave the economy
02:07live in the EU.
02:08We will not be able to save this world
02:09alone.
02:10We are now joined by Euronews reporter
02:24Gregoire Lory, who covered this announcement.
02:26The European Commission is for the first time
02:29considering allowing government
02:30to participate in the international
02:32carbon market to offset some of their pollution.
02:35But what exactly is being proposed?
02:37So basically an EU member state
02:40could pay a third country outside the EU
02:43to reduce its greenhouse emissions.
02:45And this effort will be included
02:47in the minus 90% in the EU.
02:50NGOs are saying it is nonsense
02:53because it runs against scientific opinion.
02:55To address this criticism,
02:57the Commission is proposing
02:59a limited contribution of 3%.
03:01The European Commission is also suggesting
03:03that member states could be allowed
03:05to use other forms of flexibilities
03:08to meet their climate obligations.
03:10But this has also been criticised
03:12by environmentalists.
03:13Can you explain why?
03:14One is the carbon removal.
03:16It could be nature-based
03:17or industrial technologies.
03:19And on this point,
03:20NGOs are saying that
03:22these industrial technologies
03:24removers are not developed enough to be scaled up.
03:28The other flexibility in a nutshell
03:30is that flexibility between sectors,
03:32so sectors ahead on their reductions,
03:34could compensate those lagging behind.
03:37To what extent is this decision on the 2040 target
03:40linked to the proposals that the EU
03:42will have to make at the next UN climate summit
03:44in November in Brazil,
03:46and for the bloc to retain its position
03:48as a global leader in this area?
03:50So the EU, as all the parties
03:52to the Paris Agreement,
03:53have to submit to the UN
03:57their updated NDC,
03:59Nationally Determined Contribution.
04:01These new NDCs will cover horizon 2035.
04:06So if the EU wants to send a clear signal
04:09to its international partners
04:11that it is committed to multilateralism
04:14regarding climate,
04:15it has to come up with a strong 2040 target.
04:1985% of Europeans said tackling climate change
04:22should be an EU priority,
04:24according to a survey released by Eurobarometer in June.
04:2781% of those surveyed by the Statistics Agency
04:31support the EU-wide goal of reaching climate neutrality by 2050.
04:3675% believe that reducing fossil fuel imports
04:39will increase energy security.
04:41To accelerate the process,
04:43the Commission proposes tax incentives
04:45to encourage investments in clean technologies
04:48and more public investment
04:49in expanding renewable energy sources.
04:52Our guest is Austrian MEP Lene Schillings
04:54from The Greens Group.
04:56Thank you very much for joining us.
04:58Thank you for the invitation.
04:59There are now increasingly
05:01more climate change sceptics in power,
05:03notably in the US,
05:04but of course,
05:05Europe also has its own climate change sceptics.
05:08So can the EU maintain its commitment
05:10to comply with the Paris Agreement
05:12to curb global warming?
05:13It is very hard.
05:14I would say in this European Parliament,
05:16almost one third of this Parliament
05:18are people that deny the climate crisis
05:21or say it's not important or whatever.
05:24So, yes, the majorities have changed.
05:27With the US and Trump saying,
05:29drill, baby, drill,
05:31we had a real problem.
05:32A recent bid by the Greens,
05:34the Socialists and the Liberals
05:36to fast track the review of the climate law
05:39through Parliament was blocked
05:40by mostly right-wing parties.
05:43Do you think that there is a risk
05:44that the negotiations will be bogged down and diluted?
05:48So, yes, the far right blocked it,
05:50together with the EPP.
05:52I want to say very clear at this point.
05:55And now we, together with the Social Democrats
05:57and the Liberals,
05:58need to get EPP on board.
06:00And that's what we are trying to do,
06:02to work together constructively
06:04and do another report,
06:06other amendments,
06:08a whole other story,
06:09because we need this climate target.
06:11And it's clear,
06:12with climate denial, far right,
06:13it's impossible to get it.
06:15Some leaders,
06:16notably France's Emmanuel Macron,
06:18have already said that they oppose,
06:20for the moment,
06:21talks over 2040 targets.
06:23Can you tell us a bit more about this?
06:25What Macron is doing here
06:26and saying he wants to delay it
06:28or whatever,
06:29that really messes with the next COP negotiations.
06:33And we are always saying
06:34we can't solve the climate crisis alone in Europe.
06:37We need China.
06:38We need the US.
06:39We need other countries.
06:40We need India.
06:41So, yes, we need the Council.
06:43Yes, we need the Parliament.
06:44and in both institutions,
06:46it's hell of a battle.
06:47The EU's upcoming multi-annual budget
06:49for 2028 to 2034 focuses on new priorities,
06:54namely economic competitiveness
06:56and security and defence.
06:58Do you think that funding
06:59for the climate transition
07:00will be enough
07:01to meet the bloc's climate targets?
07:03I have severe doubts.
07:05I think there are a few problems
07:07with this MFF.
07:09The first one is really so much is unclear.
07:13There are a lot of things we need.
07:15We need money for this clean industrial deal.
07:17We need money for biodiversity,
07:19as I said.
07:20We need money for civil society.
07:22But we also need to stop subsidising
07:25and funding climate harming projects or subsidies.
07:32Some say there will be no economy without the planet.
07:37On the day he presented his legislative proposal,
07:40the European Commissioner for Climate Change
07:42cited the example of Slovenia,
07:44which lost 11% of its GDP
07:46after devastating floods in 2023.
07:48Let's see if climate policy remains a priority
07:51in a time of economic, security and geopolitical turmoil.
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